DAY 4 New here long time lurker

[pky1520]

Dude where did you go? Unusual to see someone post so much and just bail without explanation.

If you ever see this, get your ass back on roll and start quitting again.

[B-loMatt]

Hemi, your doctor does understand you quit chew, right? I only ask because a lot of folks find that they have to have their meds changed once they quit. Nicotine has an enormous effect on our bodies and brains. When we rid ourselves of that poison, it really alters our body chemistry. So if you don't feel well, you certainly should go to the doctor. You might even want to talk to your pharmacist. The pharmacist will know better than your doctor, in all likelihood, what effect quitting nic is having on your other meds.

Oh and at your day count I still felt like complete crap. Fog, headaches, the works. So I know you are not alone in how you feel.

This gets better, I promise you that.

thank you Flip...yes I am going to discuss that with him, and I know my pharmacist they are local family I don't use the big chains so I am going to talk to them too. I need to quit self diagnosing myself and let the pros do the work.

I know I am not feeling well because of quitting - I am manning up and stop making excuses....I tell myself positive things everyday how much better I feel without being a slave to this stuff.

I am removing myself from all triggers - no more sports bar where smoke and spit juice are everywhere....I just posted roll after taking a long brisk cool walk and drinking a tall cool class of water with lemon juice and apple cider vinegar...

Everyday is a new choice and chance to enjoy freedom from nicotine.

Hemistry you can do this! We're beside you all the way. Take this 10 minutes at a time if you have to. Don't worry about how you might feel 30 minutes from now, it's all about right now, this very second, worry about the next 10 minutes after the first 10 over. Anxiety is a bitch. Ole nicky will definitely use it against you. Go back and read about 90% of the people on here have or had anxiety issues. I promise you if you give it enough time ( how Long I can't tell you) and you will learn that alot of your stress was coming from nicotine. I know you can do this, please reach out, don't struggle alone! Quit on!

Hemi, you are killing it! Great to see you helping newbs and building your accountability. You are getting great advice from BAQs, and you seem willing to listen so let me tell you a secret I came to realize...

Everything is a trigger.

Absolutely a great idea to not place yourself in a position where the temptation to dip is strong. As your quit gets longer it is easier to go back to the sports bar, but I realized at a point in my quit that everything was a trigger. Driving, eating, sex, showering, yard-work, house-work, breathing... You have been beating craves for almost 3 weeks, and triggers are just things that cause you to crave. Truth be told the withdrawal from the poison is what triggered the craves, and now that you are past the physical withdrawal all those triggers are in your head. Ahh the mind games part of the quit... Don't worry about the craves. You know that you can beat every crave you get, and know that they will eventually go away. Just enjoy winning, and fight like hell when you have to. Keep doing what has got you here.

[pab1964]

Hemi, your doctor does understand you quit chew, right? I only ask because a lot of folks find that they have to have their meds changed once they quit. Nicotine has an enormous effect on our bodies and brains. When we rid ourselves of that poison, it really alters our body chemistry. So if you don't feel well, you certainly should go to the doctor. You might even want to talk to your pharmacist. The pharmacist will know better than your doctor, in all likelihood, what effect quitting nic is having on your other meds.

Oh and at your day count I still felt like complete crap. Fog, headaches, the works. So I know you are not alone in how you feel.

This gets better, I promise you that.

thank you Flip...yes I am going to discuss that with him, and I know my pharmacist they are local family I don't use the big chains so I am going to talk to them too. I need to quit self diagnosing myself and let the pros do the work.

I know I am not feeling well because of quitting - I am manning up and stop making excuses....I tell myself positive things everyday how much better I feel without being a slave to this stuff.

I am removing myself from all triggers - no more sports bar where smoke and spit juice are everywhere....I just posted roll after taking a long brisk cool walk and drinking a tall cool class of water with lemon juice and apple cider vinegar...

Everyday is a new choice and chance to enjoy freedom from nicotine.

Hemistry you can do this! We're beside you all the way. Take this 10 minutes at a time if you have to. Don't worry about how you might feel 30 minutes from now, it's all about right now, this very second, worry about the next 10 minutes after the first 10 over. Anxiety is a bitch. Ole nicky will definitely use it against you. Go back and read about 90% of the people on here have or had anxiety issues. I promise you if you give it enough time ( how Long I can't tell you) and you will learn that alot of your stress was coming from nicotine. I know you can do this, please reach out, don't struggle alone! Quit on!

[hemistry08]

Hemi, your doctor does understand you quit chew, right? I only ask because a lot of folks find that they have to have their meds changed once they quit. Nicotine has an enormous effect on our bodies and brains. When we rid ourselves of that poison, it really alters our body chemistry. So if you don't feel well, you certainly should go to the doctor. You might even want to talk to your pharmacist. The pharmacist will know better than your doctor, in all likelihood, what effect quitting nic is having on your other meds.

Oh and at your day count I still felt like complete crap. Fog, headaches, the works. So I know you are not alone in how you feel.

This gets better, I promise you that.

thank you Flip...yes I am going to discuss that with him, and I know my pharmacist they are local family I don't use the big chains so I am going to talk to them too. I need to quit self diagnosing myself and let the pros do the work.

I know I am not feeling well because of quitting - I am manning up and stop making excuses....I tell myself positive things everyday how much better I feel without being a slave to this stuff.

I am removing myself from all triggers - no more sports bar where smoke and spit juice are everywhere....I just posted roll after taking a long brisk cool walk and drinking a tall cool class of water with lemon juice and apple cider vinegar...

Everyday is a new choice and chance to enjoy freedom from nicotine.

[FLLipOut]

Hemi, your doctor does understand you quit chew, right? I only ask because a lot of folks find that they have to have their meds changed once they quit. Nicotine has an enormous effect on our bodies and brains. When we rid ourselves of that poison, it really alters our body chemistry. So if you don't feel well, you certainly should go to the doctor. You might even want to talk to your pharmacist. The pharmacist will know better than your doctor, in all likelihood, what effect quitting nic is having on your other meds.

Oh and at your day count I still felt like complete crap. Fog, headaches, the works. So I know you are not alone in how you feel.

This gets better, I promise you that.

[hemistry08]

I made an appointment with my doctor for tuesday - gonna beg him to taper me off the wellbutrin 300 mg a day

I have taken antidepressants before when doing shift work but only could tolerate the wellbutrin but that was over ten years ago and wasn't doing nicotine/chew back then....never felt like thus though.

[hemistry08]

i only posted in my thread, because i got a bunch of messages accusing me of caving for missing one day!
I am sick to my stomach anytime I am around smoke or like thursday night when i got a smell of that wintergreen dip at the sports bar. I never have puked when healthy before and it happened again today every time people opened the door at the bar and the smoke blew in.
I went to the doctor yesterday and he told me it was because he put on wellbutrin a few weeks ago for seasonal depression disorder I get every year when the time changes and the day gets longer and more darkness. Apparently it has the same active ingredient as zyban. Now it makes sense as I was stuffing my lips with more dip each day and the effects were less and less and I started to feel sick. I started changing brands and then got worse which led me to stop. He told me it blocks the nicotine and all you get is that nasty taste etc all. He said that explains the sickness. He doesn't know if it will get better with time and told me to stay away from smoke and I should be ok.
No chance of me going back - so I don't know if this qualifies cheating as I never knew it had the effects it did.
I have asked him if I could come off and other options to deal with the seasonal depression like light therapy.
I can't stand the nausea and now feel like I am an outsider here because what I am going through seems to be totally different that what anyone else is, still experiencing the fog and all plus the sickness I can't even stand the thought of nicotine.

[JGlav]

Come on hemistry, that's a weak ass excuse to miss roll! Go back and read traumagents story. You should be able to tell there's never any reason to miss roll! Man posted roll while sitting in a chair receiving chemo treatments. So dude quit trying to fool yourself because you obviously had plenty time to post,beat you didn't miss dips. You can get pissed if you want, I'm not trying to win popularity contest just wanting you to stay quit no matter what! Because one day missed is where it all starts spiraling downhill! Quit on and post roll early Edd!

Post till early. We never forgot a dip in the morning or on way to work or after coffee or blah blah blah. Roll is the key to a solid quit man. You gotta want this quit more than anything. It's a battle to beat the Nic bitch back and roll is the golden club that anihilates her.

[pab1964]

Come on hemistry, that's a weak ass excuse to miss roll! Go back and read traumagents story. You should be able to tell there's never any reason to miss roll! Man posted roll while sitting in a chair receiving chemo treatments. So dude quit trying to fool yourself because you obviously had plenty time to post,beat you didn't miss dips. You can get pissed if you want, I'm not trying to win popularity contest just wanting you to stay quit no matter what! Because one day missed is where it all starts spiraling downhill! Quit on and post roll early Edd!

[hemistry08]

I am here guys and gals still quit...DAY 14!!!!..really rough day yesterday - missed roll yesterday as my wife's car had issues starting - damn key-less entry systems so I was tied up in the morning and rough day..

Last night was really weird but convinced me I will never go back I was in my favorite sports bar last night for TNF and it was packed 2 guys that I didn't know on each side of me were chewing and the smell got to me...I got sick and had to go outside to vomit....I have no idea why that happened but I went home after that for a sleepless night..but more motivated than ever to stay away from that nasty juice.

[hemistry08]

due to my new found will power I started a diet today. I estimate I gained 30-35 lbs in the last couple of years I blame on the chew, as I would stuff myself full on meals and look forward to it "settling my stomach".
I never did chew on a empty stomach or later than 5 or I'd be up all night tossing and turning. I usually cut caffeine off by 3 pm as it stays with me a long time -as all stimulants do. during my competitive days I did ephedrine for work outs and it would daze my for days. My parents when they come visit will request a pot of coffee before bed - LOL - so we are all different.
Cravings have been really bad lately but I am holding out. I have been sleeping SO much better lately that it is further motivation to never go back.
Thank you for all the support here.

[pky1520]

Great intro man! Trust me, it will get better. Keep that chip on your shoulder - keep hating tobacco and you'll start stacking up days.

[hemistry08]

thank you for the support!! yesterday was the toughest day yet. Spent 6 hours in my favorite sports bar watching NFL but away from my friends with the tins and cups in front of them.

[FISHFLORIDA]

Keep up the good work! Embrace the suck and never forget how crappy these days are. That nic bitch will start to whisper really loud, but fall back to your brothers and dig your heels in. You got this!

[FLLipOut]

You're doing great, Hemi! ODAAT!