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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2010, 02:24:00 PM »
why do they all have to be so short too? And cut off before it gets good????

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2010, 01:46:00 PM »
Your Avatar is hypnotizing....

Great job on the quit so far. Keep it going.


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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2010, 01:25:00 PM »
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Now I see it a bit different: I am no longer a dipper. I'm not quitting, I've already quit, its over. Dip and smokes just arent an option anymore.
Luke - I like your spirit. You are kicking the nic in the butt. I do want to correct you on one thing.

you are a quitter, you are quitting everyday. It's not over. It keeps trying to pull you back, BUT you quit each day. Never can you have nic again, it will suck you back down. Unfortunately it is an option everywhere you turn. But I know what your saying.

For you, you have CHOSEN never to use the crap again. For you, you are quit. You are doing great.

Keep it up. Post, promise, keep the word, repeat. Day by Day

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2010, 12:53:00 PM »
Thanks for the continued support fellas.

Day 12, its getting easier, I've decided not to refill Chantix. That shit definitely messes with my head.

I think the bulk of the nicotine withdrawals have passed. Its been several days since I've had the shakes. I think I have the willpower thing down. In previous attempts to quit I thought of it as "quitting dip".

Now I see it a bit different: I am no longer a dipper. I'm not quitting, I've already quit, its over. Dip and smokes just arent an option anymore.

I'm doing good, thank god for this site.

-Luke

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2010, 05:09:00 PM »
Chantix is for pussies. You don't need it. If YOU commit to quit, YOU will do it. Chantix won't do it for you. Nobody will do it for you. This is about you. The best part is that you are not alone. We are all here to help you.

Read all you can, post roll, take it one day at a time, one hour at a time, whatever it takes, but take your life back.

BTW...sorry to hear about your grandmother. God bless her and your family.

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2010, 02:46:00 PM »
*LOOT waved the "merge" wand with your prior topic*

Pretty fuckin cool huh?

Anyway...LOOT did lots of drugs after 30 days. It was either dip and live or quit and be on death row. Drugs did a decent job of knocking down the rage. The only one that worked was too easy to abuse and wound up scaring LOOT. Finally just quit medicating it. Strange times they were.

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2010, 02:27:00 PM »
hey man you can beat this without chantix man. I am on day 17 and my name is Luke and i live in Florida too. we chatted before. get off that shit man you can beat this on your own I know you can.


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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2010, 02:26:00 PM »
Luke- You sound like a stand up guy who doesn't take any shit. I tried quitting many different times and different ways. Nic gum, Nic Lozenge, then chantix. I always went back to the tin. The chantix was really fucking with my head so that only lasted a few days before I flushed it.
Bottom line is I kept telling myself that I couldn't do it cold turkey. That I've been dipping too long and no one understands.
Finally I stumbled across this web site and that changed everything.
I just said "enough is enough, MAN UP!"

I guess my point is that your doing a great job being Nic free, just don't put all that faith into the chantix. I think your stronger in the head than your giving yourself credit for.

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2010, 02:04:00 PM »
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I couldnt find an appropriate forum to write this in... and I'm really just talking to myself here. But, on the off chance that I say something that might be valuable to someone else, I decided to post it here.

I've already introduced myself in another thread, but I wanted to sort of "continue the story" for my own purposes.

My name is Luke C, from Florida, and this is day 7 of my quit. I'm quitting with Chantix and today is day 14 of it.

I grew up in Flomaton, AL -- thats about as country as country gets. There we learn about camp fire drinking, mud riding, and dip. But, above all of that, we get those southern values instilled in us.

I've always considered myself a strong man, in the traditional sense. I consider myself strong physically. We all pretend that we don't think about such things, but I think we all do.. we want to be strong. I've also always considered myself strong mentally. My wife can depend on me in a crisis. I will react as a man should and I will protect her.

I am the type of guy who puts a lot of thought and priority in these things. I do not lie, I do what I say, I stand up for my friends, I can be counted on, I want to help people, I am strong, and I am proud.

Even if I am not perfect, to me, the above statements mean the world to me. I want to be able to say them and I want to create few reasons for anyone to doubt the truth of it.

Thats why I have to quit. Addiction is weakness, and for the past 15 years or so I've been weak. That pretty much nullifies everything I hold valuable.

I do not want people to look at me as weak, and I need to prove to myself that I have not been lying to myself the whole time. I feel like being unable to quit makes me less of a man.

My grandmother was diagnosed with Small Cell Carcinoma about a year ago. About 3 weeks ago, after an intense battle, her cancer was elevated to stage 4. The doctor says "we need to make her comfortable."

This woman means everything to me, she is and always has been one of my favorite people on the planet. Soon she will be gone. We begged her (LITERALLY!) for years to quit smoking. She would quit, and start again. Its caught up with her now. I cannot go down that path... I do not want my family to experience the pain that I feel for my grandmother every day... no way...

As for Chantix. Since I'm on day 14, and on the maximum dosage 7 days running, I think I've experienced about every side effect I'm going to experience.

I'm definitely experiencing mild depression and changes in my mood. Chantix's side effects are almost exactly the same as the side effects from nicotine withdrawal, so its hard to know which is causing what. The odd thing to me is that my changes in mood arent mood swings. My mood remains pretty consistent, which seems to be unique to this quit. Instead I'm just generally more forward, rude, and asshole-ish.

That is to say, cold turkey seemed to make me fly off the handle several times per day. Chantix just flattens that out, to something much milder, over the whole day. Its not a severe change in mood, but its noticable. My wife actually says I'm less of an asshole now.. its weird.. but I can feel the changes in my head.

As for the dreams... oh yes.. I get some crazy ass dreams. Some are nightmares, some not, but I am able to just ignore it for the most part.

People say its weakness to do anything other than cold turkey. I don't think so, I have to consciously take the pill twice per day. It is nicotine free, I still have the HORRIBLE nicotine withdrawals. Chantix helps, a little, by stimulating receptors in your brain to reduce the cravings. Comparing it to my previous cold turkey attempts I'd say it reduces cravings by 30% or so. It also prevents nicotine from stimulating your brain. So I know, even I do get a dip right now, I wont like it at all... it wont help with the cravings at all... so there is no point in doing it.

This little piece of mind is good.. but I want to ditch Chantix at the end of the month, after 1 cycle. Mainly because its $150 per month, or about the same amount I was spending on dip, and I dont see the point is swapping one for the other.

Alright, thats its. If you read all of this, thanks! See you on the rolls...

-Luke
I read all of it. Good story and I am glad your quit. Yes, Chantix is 100% nic free but 99% of did it without drugs. I would think you can too. Just stop taking it before the side effects become worse.
If a weak ass pussy like me can do it. A strong willed southern SOB like yourself can do it.

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2010, 01:36:00 PM »
I couldnt find an appropriate forum to write this in... and I'm really just talking to myself here. But, on the off chance that I say something that might be valuable to someone else, I decided to post it here.

I've already introduced myself in another thread, but I wanted to sort of "continue the story" for my own purposes.

My name is Luke C, from Florida, and this is day 7 of my quit. I'm quitting with Chantix and today is day 14 of it.

I grew up in Flomaton, AL -- thats about as country as country gets. There we learn about camp fire drinking, mud riding, and dip. But, above all of that, we get those southern values instilled in us.

I've always considered myself a strong man, in the traditional sense. I consider myself strong physically. We all pretend that we don't think about such things, but I think we all do.. we want to be strong. I've also always considered myself strong mentally. My wife can depend on me in a crisis. I will react as a man should and I will protect her.

I am the type of guy who puts a lot of thought and priority in these things. I do not lie, I do what I say, I stand up for my friends, I can be counted on, I want to help people, I am strong, and I am proud.

Even if I am not perfect, to me, the above statements mean the world to me. I want to be able to say them and I want to create few reasons for anyone to doubt the truth of it.

Thats why I have to quit. Addiction is weakness, and for the past 15 years or so I've been weak. That pretty much nullifies everything I hold valuable.

I do not want people to look at me as weak, and I need to prove to myself that I have not been lying to myself the whole time. I feel like being unable to quit makes me less of a man.

My grandmother was diagnosed with Small Cell Carcinoma about a year ago. About 3 weeks ago, after an intense battle, her cancer was elevated to stage 4. The doctor says "we need to make her comfortable."

This woman means everything to me, she is and always has been one of my favorite people on the planet. Soon she will be gone. We begged her (LITERALLY!) for years to quit smoking. She would quit, and start again. Its caught up with her now. I cannot go down that path... I do not want my family to experience the pain that I feel for my grandmother every day... no way...

As for Chantix. Since I'm on day 14, and on the maximum dosage 7 days running, I think I've experienced about every side effect I'm going to experience.

I'm definitely experiencing mild depression and changes in my mood. Chantix's side effects are almost exactly the same as the side effects from nicotine withdrawal, so its hard to know which is causing what. The odd thing to me is that my changes in mood arent mood swings. My mood remains pretty consistent, which seems to be unique to this quit. Instead I'm just generally more forward, rude, and asshole-ish.

That is to say, cold turkey seemed to make me fly off the handle several times per day. Chantix just flattens that out, to something much milder, over the whole day. Its not a severe change in mood, but its noticable. My wife actually says I'm less of an asshole now.. its weird.. but I can feel the changes in my head.

As for the dreams... oh yes.. I get some crazy ass dreams. Some are nightmares, some not, but I am able to just ignore it for the most part.

People say its weakness to do anything other than cold turkey. I don't think so, I have to consciously take the pill twice per day. It is nicotine free, I still have the HORRIBLE nicotine withdrawals. Chantix helps, a little, by stimulating receptors in your brain to reduce the cravings. Comparing it to my previous cold turkey attempts I'd say it reduces cravings by 30% or so. It also prevents nicotine from stimulating your brain. So I know, even I do get a dip right now, I wont like it at all... it wont help with the cravings at all... so there is no point in doing it.

This little piece of mind is good.. but I want to ditch Chantix at the end of the month, after 1 cycle. Mainly because its $150 per month, or about the same amount I was spending on dip, and I dont see the point is swapping one for the other.

Alright, thats its. If you read all of this, thanks! See you on the rolls...

-Luke

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2010, 01:27:00 PM »
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My schedule is offset, I wake up at 11 cst every day.  I just posted roll, and when I made the last post I had already had my "last one" an hour before.

The shit is over with, but I'm already craving it.  I just need something in my mouth, maybe I will go buy some seeds.

I have some Hooch in the mail.

-Luke
I've got something for you to put in your mouth. j/k

I chew gum or the mint snuff... works for me.
lol, whip that motherfucker out and hand it here.

Gum is great but all the gum I can find runs out of flavor it 10 sec.

Whatever, I will figure it out.

-Luke
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My schedule is offset, I wake up at 11 cst every day.  I just posted roll, and when I made the last post I had already had my "last one" an hour before.

The shit is over with, but I'm already craving it.  I just need something in my mouth, maybe I will go buy some seeds.

I have some Hooch in the mail.

-Luke
I've got something for you to put in your mouth. j/k

I chew gum or the mint snuff... works for me.
lol, whip that motherfucker out and hand it here.

Gum is great but all the gum I can find runs out of flavor it 10 sec.

Whatever, I will figure it out.

-Luke


Nice work, don't worry about gum, I'm on day 2 and I chew the piss out of each piece that it actually turns into a rock! Go easy on the wifal units, I completely forgot to tell mine that I quit yesterday, she started to give me shit about why I was getting gas at this station way down far away from the other stations (you know the one that sells gas only!).....I looked at her, saw her through the thick fog and laughed. Babe I'm quit and she laughed too. This morning she departs for the office with a smile and a "stay strong"...can't live with em, can't live without em :)

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2010, 12:46:00 PM »
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Quote from: vmadman
My schedule is offset, I wake up at 11 cst every day.  I just posted roll, and when I made the last post I had already had my "last one" an hour before.

The shit is over with, but I'm already craving it.  I just need something in my mouth, maybe I will go buy some seeds.

I have some Hooch in the mail.

-Luke
I've got something for you to put in your mouth. j/k

I chew gum or the mint snuff... works for me.
lol, whip that motherfucker out and hand it here.

Gum is great but all the gum I can find runs out of flavor it 10 sec.

Whatever, I will figure it out.

-Luke

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2010, 12:05:00 PM »
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My schedule is offset, I wake up at 11 cst every day. I just posted roll, and when I made the last post I had already had my "last one" an hour before.

The shit is over with, but I'm already craving it. I just need something in my mouth, maybe I will go buy some seeds.

I have some Hooch in the mail.

-Luke
I've got something for you to put in your mouth. j/k

I chew gum or the mint snuff... works for me.
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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2010, 12:01:00 PM »
My schedule is offset, I wake up at 11 cst every day. I just posted roll, and when I made the last post I had already had my "last one" an hour before.

The shit is over with, but I'm already craving it. I just need something in my mouth, maybe I will go buy some seeds.

I have some Hooch in the mail.

-Luke

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Re: On my way to freedom
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2010, 11:50:00 AM »
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Ah, Friday begins.  Day one.

No more tabacco, ever.  I will post roll for the first time when I wake up tomorrow.  This quit is THE quit, but god its going to be tough.

My wife is also the biggest advocate for my quit while at the same time the least supportive wife you could imagine.  If I'm even slightly moody I get a "god, just get a fucking dip asshole".

Ugh, well, maybe this forum can substitute for now.

-Luke
Still no roll post?

Curious as to why you didn't go ahead and make your promise when you posted this?

Needed one more?

No way you're still sleeping if this is your first night w/o nic.
Luke stay strong my florida brother. I am still a newbie only on day 11 but we neighbors and have the same name.


If you want anything let me know


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