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Offline Winter Green

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2014, 12:19:00 PM »
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.

If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.

Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....

you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.

if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.

So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.

then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
Answer the 3 questions. Keep this in mind... Your odds of getting help from us hinges on you remaining engaged with us. You came here the other day... Disappeared with your holster and car keys out the door ... Then show up today and tell us you stuffed your face full of dip. Then ask us about triggers.

Quitting here requires you to communicate with us. Then we communicate back. Drive by quitters fail. Show us you want it and stay with us... We are here to help. With that, Your odds increase exponentially.

No magic potion as others said. My biggest craves centered around stressful situations. I still have stressful situations but I now deal with them without dipping.

You can do this. But you have to want it. Right now you are not all in here.
By quitting my job by moving on to a different country as you suggest doing whatever it takes to remain quit still eludes the most important fact. That fact being whatever you , me or any othet addict does the addiction will still be there. So by trying to outrun the addiction you always lose because its always with you. Why not just confront it head on?
Why not just stay quit? Why not stop being conflicting. Why not post roll, and keep your word. My biggest trigger was drugs, should I go pop a hand full of opiates and see if I can stay quit? Fuck that, I avoid it. Some triggers you can avoid, and some triggers you wont be able to avoid, but you have to overcome them. Whatever it takes man. I see your day 15 and thats huge. If youve made it this far, there is no limit to your quit. Keep strong, stay commited and keep kickin ass

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2014, 12:17:00 PM »
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I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
Really? Seriously...you don't use "what-if's" to think about your life? You just react? I use what-if's all the time. And in my profession, I don't just allow "reactions" to occur. You name a scenario, and my company has probably already ask me "what if". If fact, my company spends millions a year on instructors to ask me what-if questions (2-3 times a year), then they spend 100's of millions on simulators to see that my "reactions" are the right ACTIONS. They don't leave it to chance. Scenarios (what-ifs) are a not a waste of time just because I could dream up a new, possibly unheard scenario. In simple terms - Every time I am run through one of those "what-if" scenarios, this I am better prepared for an "actual" scenario. If you think that you can just "react" to the next 30 days of craves, or the next 3 years of craves....you are in for disappointment.
Seriously chief. Leave the what if crap to your r d dept. Quit living in a box of fear.you can't control every aspect of day to day living. What if I drop something on my foot at work ? What if I step in dog poop , what if I shit myself at work? You got all that covered from your box of scenarios? Problems come and problems go. Have some faith in your own resolve dude.

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2014, 12:10:00 PM »
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.

If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.

Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....

you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.

if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.

So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.

then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
Answer the 3 questions. Keep this in mind... Your odds of getting help from us hinges on you remaining engaged with us. You came here the other day... Disappeared with your holster and car keys out the door ... Then show up today and tell us you stuffed your face full of dip. Then ask us about triggers.

Quitting here requires you to communicate with us. Then we communicate back. Drive by quitters fail. Show us you want it and stay with us... We are here to help. With that, Your odds increase exponentially.

No magic potion as others said. My biggest craves centered around stressful situations. I still have stressful situations but I now deal with them without dipping.

You can do this. But you have to want it. Right now you are not all in here.
By quitting my job by moving on to a different country as you suggest doing whatever it takes to remain quit still eludes the most important fact. That fact being whatever you , me or any othet addict does the addiction will still be there. So by trying to outrun the addiction you always lose because its always with you. Why not just confront it head on?

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2014, 04:08:00 PM »
Hmmm. 59 replies and only 6 days, and a cave in there somewhere. Been busy... It is possible that a name change is in order! Why the heck can't some people just Post Roll and stay quit?

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2014, 08:51:00 PM »
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I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
Really? Seriously...you don't use "what-if's" to think about your life? You just react? I use what-if's all the time. And in my profession, I don't just allow "reactions" to occur. You name a scenario, and my company has probably already ask me "what if". If fact, my company spends millions a year on instructors to ask me what-if questions (2-3 times a year), then they spend 100's of millions on simulators to see that my "reactions" are the right ACTIONS. They don't leave it to chance. Scenarios (what-ifs) are a not a waste of time just because I could dream up a new, possibly unheard scenario. In simple terms - Every time I am run through one of those "what-if" scenarios, this I am better prepared for an "actual" scenario. If you think that you can just "react" to the next 30 days of craves, or the next 3 years of craves....you are in for disappointment.
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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2014, 07:04:00 PM »
Horse fucking shit! My job. Cry me a fucking river. My daughter has a broken hip and femur. My mother is now in a fucking diabetic coma. Did I fucking cave? Fuck no. Why? Because I fucking bought in. I got numbers and follow what groundwork that has been lain before me. Follow these fuckers and they will lead you to the promised land. Or you could keep up with the special butterfly bullshit and die of cancer.

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2014, 06:58:00 PM »
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me  29  more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey.  Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.

I like that.

But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.

First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.

Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)

(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?

What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.


(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...

Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...

You made the decision to quit. Why?

Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.

Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?

Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?

(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)


(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.

I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)

Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.

Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.


We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.

So, back to your original post....

I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.

We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions
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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2014, 06:51:00 PM »
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me  29  more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey.  Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.

I like that.

But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.

First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.

Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)

(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?

What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.


(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...

Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...

You made the decision to quit. Why?

Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.

Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?

Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?

(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)


(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.

I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)

Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.

Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.


We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.

So, back to your original post....

I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.

We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions
'bang head'

Don't fuck with me, man.

Do you want to be quit?
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2014, 05:16:00 PM »
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me  29  more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey.  Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.

I like that.

But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.

First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.

Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)

(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?

What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.


(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...

Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...

You made the decision to quit. Why?

Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.

Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?

Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?

(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)


(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.

I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)

Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.

Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.


We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.

So, back to your original post....

I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.

We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2014, 05:57:00 AM »
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Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?
It needs to be flipped still. You can change the date and delete the names from the previous day to start a fresh one for today.
Got June fixed man.

The first person of the day usually just erases all of the previous day's info and flips the date. No big deal.

(Also, I'm going to merge all your intros together. We like to keep it to one here.)
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2014, 05:19:00 AM »
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Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?
It needs to be flipped still. You can change the date and delete the names from the previous day to start a fresh one for today.
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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2014, 05:13:00 AM »
Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2014, 10:17:00 AM »
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I can remember growing up my dad always dipping Copenhagen straight fine cut, but never around my mom. I was 12 when I started chewing skoal winter green..way back in 1980. I lived in Houston Texas.  I was walking to my friends house with a chew in when my dad pulled up next to me in his car. I was busted and waiting for a lecture about how bad of a habit tobacco is. Instead my dad says if you to spit roll the window down and dont get any on my car....oh yeah dont let your mom know you dip. I'm 45 years old now with 4 kids. Married 4 26 years .I have one son who is a year old march 6th.like father like son my wife never new I chewed for 21 years of our marriage. I finally told her. I want to lead by example for my little boy and not be the example my dad was for me. My dad quit chewing in 1995. I want to follow his example again only this time in a  positive way. My dad has been on me for 19 years to quit. I've learned that a person will quit when they feel like quitting and not pleasing someone else. I dont mean to ramble on about the past but theresvalot to be learned from ones history.
Hey brotha, your right, when it hits you it hits you and it's time to quit. And bro, you are in the right place to quit. I'm 48, Texan as well, raised by smoking parents, and started dipping in elementary school. Hell, I am only half kidding around when I talk about my first job. It was riding around picking up coke bottles and going to the convenience store and turning them in for cash and buying Happy Days snuff. Back ing the 70's they only carded for alcohol. Lol. Not tobacco. I'm actually still amazed that they would sell tobacco to to a kid in elementary school. Well, point is, I have never even been able to slow down dipping until a friend told me about KTC and I came here and took the hardest step, Day 1. I had actually given up on being able to quit. But today is 182 days and I tell ya, I never thought it could be this good. It's awesome. Trust yourself to KTC philosophy and you will do fine. At night, turn off the tv and spend your time here. Read all that you can. Everything. Get on chat. Give your phone number to quit buddies. Take every number given to you and start building relationships here. I'll give you your first tool for Quitn. ODAAT. One day at a time. Quittn forever is too big to tackle. Just quit one day at a time. You got this. Click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with ya bro.

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Great mindset! Read everything here. So much knowledge here... Follow the plan it works. Use that time to quit feeling wisely as it does not last forever. Get active on KTC and get your plan together. PM me if you need anything.
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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2014, 09:33:00 AM »
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me  29  more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey.  Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.

I like that.

But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.

First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.

Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)

(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?

What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.


(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...

Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...

You made the decision to quit. Why?

Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.

Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?

Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?

(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)


(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.

I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)

Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.

Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.


We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.

So, back to your original post....

I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.

We have such pleasures to show you...
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: feeling like I'm forgetting something.
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2014, 08:55:00 AM »
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
Somebody here smarter than me made it simple.....

1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems

That shit doesn't help or solve anything. You can do this....fight for your freedom!
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