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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #412 on: November 27, 2014, 11:31:00 AM »
Locking this for a cooling off period.

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #411 on: November 27, 2014, 10:59:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
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Cool.
I'll stand corrected. Whatever people need to quit this noise is fine with me.
Glad you approve, ILquitter. I was really fucked in the head when you had me questioning whether this site was helping me or hurting me.
Also, traumagnet- this isn't a sacred indian burial ground. Just an intro thread of a guy who says he isn't here anymore because of fucking banana's. 'BanDog'
Edit-(They aren't really fucking, it's simulated)
You can fuck off you smug lil prick its a thread that belongs to someone else. You wanna lip off take it to your thread you drama whore. Dont be trying to get your wings here. Dont you have a family or maybe they left you home so they could have a good time wo your ass.
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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #410 on: November 27, 2014, 09:48:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
BATTLEGROUND!!!! NOT HERE
Cool.
I'll stand corrected. Whatever people need to quit this noise is fine with me.
Glad you approve, ILquitter. I was really fucked in the head when you had me questioning whether this site was helping me or hurting me.
Also, traumagnet- this isn't a sacred indian burial ground. Just an intro thread of a guy who says he isn't here anymore because of fucking banana's. 'BanDog'
Edit-(They aren't really fucking, it's simulated)

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #409 on: November 25, 2014, 03:26:00 PM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
BATTLEGROUND!!!! NOT HERE
Cool.
On my way

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #408 on: November 25, 2014, 02:44:00 PM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
BATTLEGROUND!!!! NOT HERE
Cool.
I'll stand corrected. Whatever people need to quit this noise is fine with me.

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #407 on: November 25, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
BATTLEGROUND!!!! NOT HERE
Cool.
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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #406 on: November 25, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.
BATTLEGROUND!!!! NOT HERE
Complacency sucks, one moment of it is the difference between being a user and a quitter....OIB

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #405 on: November 25, 2014, 01:58:00 PM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Who is Marty Barrington, and where did I say that? Get your facts straight before you stick your dick in your mouth.

Edit - If I have to explain the irony to you, it's already too late.
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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #404 on: November 25, 2014, 11:00:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Fair point NMCB. I'll try and answer that question.

ILQuitter - you are off base because you still think of dip as a bad habit, which is what years and years of big tobacco marketing has convinced the general public to believe. In fact, it is a nicotine addiction. Addiction is not something that just goes away...you keep it for life. Science has shown that just one dose of (drugs, alcohol, nicotine, etc) even after years and years, reverts the brain chemistry to the exact state it was in when it was in maximum use.

We post every day, and stay active on this site, because we know that this is something that just doesn't go away. We have seen really great quitters come back after years of quit, only to post a day 1 again. We know that our best chance of being free from the bonds of that evil nic bitch, is to fully and firmly grab a hold of the mindset of hating nicotine, realizing it is a poison and that just one is all it takes to do us in.

There are countless stories of fear of the diagnosis. We have people in here that are going through cancer diagnosis in fact. The addict mindset wants to continue to put the belief in us that its really no big deal, its not as bad as X, and any other excuse you want to use. The reality is that it is a very toxic poison that completely alters your brain chemistry and is known to increase your chance of certain cancers.

Brotherhood and Accountability are the keys to staying quit. We find this place to be our best chance of success. So it's not just "trading one bad habit for another", it's realizing you have a really bad disease that will kill you and doesn't go away but it's antidote is a daily dose of brotherhood and accountability.

I also just have my own history to look back at. 28 years of trying to "stop a bad habit" by myself or with the support of my family and friends that never lasted longer than 3 weeks and 256 days of quitting. I'll go with the method I know keeps me quit.

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #403 on: November 25, 2014, 10:44:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.

ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #402 on: November 25, 2014, 08:32:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #401 on: November 25, 2014, 08:03:00 AM »
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Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #400 on: November 25, 2014, 07:06:00 AM »
Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.

...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits

That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.

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Re: Day one or two
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some of the comments I have read on this thread concern me greatly. How many times do we have to read the tale of repeat day 1's before it sinks in that it is an incredibly bad idea to drift?

Defending someone's decision to drift is not support. Someone's level of past involvement on ktc is no indicator that they will stay quit, that has been proven multiple times. Today is the only day that counts. Yesterday's success is a pleasant memory- but it really is no more than that.

I do not wish you anything but the best srans, and I hope you never have to revisit the statement "I clearly see it as a good decision". Many quits have fallen to overconfidence.
Srans, you were a early supporter of me and although many will miss seeing your sage advice. I trust your word and can understand your decision. I cant't say I agree 100%, but if you are quit then you are quit. Granted the roll posting process works, but you are a big boy and are capable of making your own decisions. Anyone who wants to talk shit is welcome at the P complaint department.
How can you agree 1%? Nobody will be cured ever and none of us could quit without this site. This discussion is not specifically about srans. How is this hard to understand?
exactly, you hit it right on the head. I find it funny that people that have a personal relationship with someone can support certain behaviors that would otherwise be deemed irresponsible and against the code. No one is attacking anyone personally. This IS NOT PERSONAL and our opinions about the actions of others on this site shouldn't be clouded by relationships. If srans were a shitbag, I doubt many of us would even care about his decision. The fact that he has helped others, formed bonds with members, and displayed role model quitter behavior for noobs does not make the decision any more acceptable.
Man... what a couple of days on this Intro. I can say I learned more this past several days in here than I have in a long time.

Not sure it is funny as you put it sixer... but you are right. As you develop relationships with folks here at KTC and have a lot invested in them -- it is extremely difficult to see them go and it is hard to see people hammer on them.

Srans was a critical person in getting me quit. I admire this guy. He brought me thru the fog, he encouraged me to HOF, he was a great supporter and I was the same for him as I progressed. I watched him help countless others as he immersed himself on this site. It is very difficult for me to see him go on his own. Very difficult. Sometimes you are so close to a situation, you can not see it for what it is... that is when it is important to have the rest of the KTC clan get you straight.

The point you are making is a great one. I don't  can't support this decision. I hope the best for Srans and if he were to come back to KTC I would support him with all my power. If he were to call me or text me outside of KTC, I would support him as well. I have told him that. However, no person is bigger than this site. The principles of this site are simple... post roll EDD and repeat. We hold each other accountable and anything less than upholding our core values can not be tolerated.

The last part is the thing I have come to see again in full force after 519 days quit. You all are pretty amazing. I appreciate the accountability. I am proud to be quit with you all today.
Relationships aside, people will come and go as they damn well please. Some will fade and be quit the rest of their lives, others are destined to cave. I happen to believe that Shawn will continue to use the tools he learned here, although he will not be posting roll daily or dishing out sage advice, which will be sorely missed, I know he has other people whom are programmed into his phone and will help hold him accountable.

Those who want to ask me about 1%, you are God Damn right I can give him at least one percent, because if not for him and for a conversation I had with him over a year ago, I cannot say I would be here today. That makes him not a friend but a savior, because ragardless of his current decision, he was there for me then and I have no doubt he will be there anytime I need him.

As was stated some people can move on and be fine. I myself am not mentally ready so I will be here, but bear in mind that Shawn has saved more quits than most here and he is due respect for his path even though you may not agree with everything currently. You may not know his situation and should hold judgement until you do.
And yet, the site is littered with the bones of failed quit because people found themselves "ready" to leave the site. If you aren't here, you aren't using the tools, the concept of accountability is broken, the lessons learned fade, and the relationships that were formed become distant. Complacency sets in. Quit goes on autopilot. And you rely on your own self control, the same self control that failed you throughout your life as an active user.

To quote ninereasons: The Death Spiral of A Quit:

Overconfident

Careless

Smug

Complacent

Unquit

^^^^^ That is profound and chilling. Should be a scrolling banner somewhere.
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20 seconds to post roll. If the wife can't handle that, cut the ties, find someone who truly loves you unrequited.

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Re: Day one or two
« Reply #398 on: November 24, 2014, 09:30:00 AM »
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some of the comments I have read on this thread concern me greatly. How many times do we have to read the tale of repeat day 1's before it sinks in that it is an incredibly bad idea to drift?

Defending someone's decision to drift is not support. Someone's level of past involvement on ktc is no indicator that they will stay quit, that has been proven multiple times. Today is the only day that counts. Yesterday's success is a pleasant memory- but it really is no more than that.

I do not wish you anything but the best srans, and I hope you never have to revisit the statement "I clearly see it as a good decision". Many quits have fallen to overconfidence.
Srans, you were a early supporter of me and although many will miss seeing your sage advice. I trust your word and can understand your decision. I cant't say I agree 100%, but if you are quit then you are quit. Granted the roll posting process works, but you are a big boy and are capable of making your own decisions. Anyone who wants to talk shit is welcome at the P complaint department.
How can you agree 1%? Nobody will be cured ever and none of us could quit without this site. This discussion is not specifically about srans. How is this hard to understand?
exactly, you hit it right on the head. I find it funny that people that have a personal relationship with someone can support certain behaviors that would otherwise be deemed irresponsible and against the code. No one is attacking anyone personally. This IS NOT PERSONAL and our opinions about the actions of others on this site shouldn't be clouded by relationships. If srans were a shitbag, I doubt many of us would even care about his decision. The fact that he has helped others, formed bonds with members, and displayed role model quitter behavior for noobs does not make the decision any more acceptable.
Man... what a couple of days on this Intro. I can say I learned more this past several days in here than I have in a long time.

Not sure it is funny as you put it sixer... but you are right. As you develop relationships with folks here at KTC and have a lot invested in them -- it is extremely difficult to see them go and it is hard to see people hammer on them.

Srans was a critical person in getting me quit. I admire this guy. He brought me thru the fog, he encouraged me to HOF, he was a great supporter and I was the same for him as I progressed. I watched him help countless others as he immersed himself on this site. It is very difficult for me to see him go on his own. Very difficult. Sometimes you are so close to a situation, you can not see it for what it is... that is when it is important to have the rest of the KTC clan get you straight.

The point you are making is a great one. I don't  can't support this decision. I hope the best for Srans and if he were to come back to KTC I would support him with all my power. If he were to call me or text me outside of KTC, I would support him as well. I have told him that. However, no person is bigger than this site. The principles of this site are simple... post roll EDD and repeat. We hold each other accountable and anything less than upholding our core values can not be tolerated.

The last part is the thing I have come to see again in full force after 519 days quit. You all are pretty amazing. I appreciate the accountability. I am proud to be quit with you all today.
Relationships aside, people will come and go as they damn well please. Some will fade and be quit the rest of their lives, others are destined to cave. I happen to believe that Shawn will continue to use the tools he learned here, although he will not be posting roll daily or dishing out sage advice, which will be sorely missed, I know he has other people whom are programmed into his phone and will help hold him accountable.

Those who want to ask me about 1%, you are God Damn right I can give him at least one percent, because if not for him and for a conversation I had with him over a year ago, I cannot say I would be here today. That makes him not a friend but a savior, because ragardless of his current decision, he was there for me then and I have no doubt he will be there anytime I need him.

As was stated some people can move on and be fine. I myself am not mentally ready so I will be here, but bear in mind that Shawn has saved more quits than most here and he is due respect for his path even though you may not agree with everything currently. You may not know his situation and should hold judgement until you do.
And yet, the site is littered with the bones of failed quit because people found themselves "ready" to leave the site. If you aren't here, you aren't using the tools, the concept of accountability is broken, the lessons learned fade, and the relationships that were formed become distant. Complacency sets in. Quit goes on autopilot. And you rely on your own self control, the same self control that failed you throughout your life as an active user.

To quote ninereasons: The Death Spiral of A Quit:

Overconfident

Careless

Smug

Complacent

Unquit

^^^^^ That is profound and chilling. Should be a scrolling banner somewhere.
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