Kalan: A recent quitter

[Thumblewort]

I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.

Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.

[RoyalCowboy7]

I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.

[RoyalCowboy7]

*poof* double post

[RoyalCowboy7]

I saw where a buddy of mine who is in the marines was deciding to quit dipping the other day. As all of you have taught me I reached out to him and encouraged him to join KTC and that it would really help him with his quit. Hoping he's joined because through my quit and what you other quitters have taught me I've learned that quitting is opening the door to living in freedom. Thanks KTC members for helping me thus far I would have never made it without y'all. ODAAT

[30isEnuff]

I've only been quit tobacco for 6 weeks but it scares me when I see people say it gets easier as if you don't have to worry about ever returning to using tobacco. That's bull shit. I'm sorry but from everything I've learned and gathered from Hall of Famers and articles on this website it never gets easier. Just because you've gone periods of time without tobacco doesn't mean you can ever think you have it beat. We have a disease that is trying to kill us. If we ever quit fighting it and become complacent it will sneak up at a moment of weakness. I had a buddy who recently passed away from cancer. He got cancer when he was 16 and beat it then he got sic k and while his body was weak the cancer came back and eventually killed him. I know fighting an addiction and fighting cancer are two different things but the point is disease will come back when we are weak. With an addiction we can control how weak we become so we must fight addiction daily no matter how many days we are quit. I wear a band on my wrist every day that say warrior with my buddies name on it. He fought like a warrior no matter what and for me to do less in my fight against addiction will not honor his memory.

I fight today to kill the can. I fight like a warrior to honor the memory of my buddy.

RIP CBA 3-30-14

Hey bro. I guarantee that it does get easier. I think you're wrong on that. But I think you are right on then money when you say that people are wrong who think they don't have to worry about ever returning to tobacco. It probably never goes away, and you're never cured. But it does get easier, guaranteed. Endorse the back of that check and deposit it in your ATM. Keep the fight. Keep the focus. Keep the quit. IT DOES GET EASIER.

Royal, it does get easier, and for longer periods of time. You will still get funks, I had a 3 day funk early this week, but now you and I have the tools to know what it is, and what to do. I quit with you today Cowboy, hell of a quit you have right here.

RC7,
Welcome to the best place to quit.
When you finally "close the door" to the poison, I believe you will not dip again. That point in ones quit is different for everyone. We all get to that point one day at a time, posting roll, keeping our word, waking and repeating.
It is a choice, just like everything else is a choice. i.e. I will not jump from a moving car today...etc...
We are addicts because we have a history of dipping the poison. I am not an addict of pcp as I have never used it. I am an addict of nicotine, I used it for most of my life.
When a human does something repeatedly, it is easier to do it again. That is why I need a place like KTC. The tools are invaluable. The kool aid is sweet and powerful. Quiting one day at a time saved my life.
I am no longer a slave, I am free and living without the cloud of nasty can controlling me.
When I started this quit I really wanted it, I didn't think it was possible until the knowledge from KTC sunk in and started becoming a real part of my thinking.
bottom line: quit everyday when your feet hit the floor...it will become a part of your life.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Griz and Thumblewort, thanks fellas. I was frustrated seeing how some people that haven't been for long were nonchalantly saying how easy it was getting for them. I agree it's getting easier for me to go without as well but I also know I have to constantly be on guard. What I was trying to get across earlier was that while the quit becomes easier (function w/out tobacco better) that we must always continue to fight because the nicbitch is still within us waiting to get us hooked again. We can't ever become complacent and think we have the disease beat or the battle won bc we don't. I've gathered this from reading about guys who were quit for a few months some a few years and returned in a moment of weakness. Glad to be quit with the two of you guys.

Yeah think you're right on the money. The beauty of this place is that all you have to do is commit to posting roll every day and that keeps you vigilant. This success rate for those who post roll every day is extremely high, they simply don't fail except in rare instances.

[Diesel2112]

Griz and Thumblewort, thanks fellas. I was frustrated seeing how some people that haven't been for long were nonchalantly saying how easy it was getting for them. I agree it's getting easier for me to go without as well but I also know I have to constantly be on guard. What I was trying to get across earlier was that while the quit becomes easier (function w/out tobacco better) that we must always continue to fight because the nicbitch is still within us waiting to get us hooked again. We can't ever become complacent and think we have the disease beat or the battle won bc we don't. I've gathered this from reading about guys who were quit for a few months some a few years and returned in a moment of weakness. Glad to be quit with the two of you guys.

If it didn't get easier, I would have bolted long ago. Believe that!!!

The fight gets easier, like flicking a fly off your arm.

I'll tell you what doesn't help, at least it didn't for me...feeling you will be oppressed for the rest of your life.

"I have a DISEASE, I will NEVER BE CURED, I will ALWAYS be FIGHTING, etc..."

Fuck, that's some drepressing ass shit. Certainly nothing to look forward to.

Leave all that shit in the back of your head, not the front.

I'll never forget I am a nicotine addict, but I'll be DAMNED if I constantly dwell on that and let that define me.

I quit to break free from the chains of addiction. Not to simply walk around with one chain around my ankle.

Fuck all the negative look backs at what we used to be. Look positively forward about what you are becoming. If you think it's going to suck forever, it probably will. Doesn't have to be that way, Cowboy. You just need some more quit under your belt and a shift in thinking. Think about it, bro.

Quit on...

[Scowick65]

Griz and Thumblewort, thanks fellas. I was frustrated seeing how some people that haven't been for long were nonchalantly saying how easy it was getting for them. I agree it's getting easier for me to go without as well but I also know I have to constantly be on guard. What I was trying to get across earlier was that while the quit becomes easier (function w/out tobacco better) that we must always continue to fight because the nicbitch is still within us waiting to get us hooked again. We can't ever become complacent and think we have the disease beat or the battle won bc we don't. I've gathered this from reading about guys who were quit for a few months some a few years and returned in a moment of weakness. Glad to be quit with the two of you guys.

stay vigilant and great job on the quit.

[RoyalCowboy7]

Griz and Thumblewort, thanks fellas. I was frustrated seeing how some people that haven't been for long were nonchalantly saying how easy it was getting for them. I agree it's getting easier for me to go without as well but I also know I have to constantly be on guard. What I was trying to get across earlier was that while the quit becomes easier (function w/out tobacco better) that we must always continue to fight because the nicbitch is still within us waiting to get us hooked again. We can't ever become complacent and think we have the disease beat or the battle won bc we don't. I've gathered this from reading about guys who were quit for a few months some a few years and returned in a moment of weakness. Glad to be quit with the two of you guys.

[Thumblewort]

I've only been quit tobacco for 6 weeks but it scares me when I see people say it gets easier as if you don't have to worry about ever returning to using tobacco. That's bull shit. I'm sorry but from everything I've learned and gathered from Hall of Famers and articles on this website it never gets easier. Just because you've gone periods of time without tobacco doesn't mean you can ever think you have it beat. We have a disease that is trying to kill us. If we ever quit fighting it and become complacent it will sneak up at a moment of weakness. I had a buddy who recently passed away from cancer. He got cancer when he was 16 and beat it then he got sic k and while his body was weak the cancer came back and eventually killed him. I know fighting an addiction and fighting cancer are two different things but the point is disease will come back when we are weak. With an addiction we can control how weak we become so we must fight addiction daily no matter how many days we are quit. I wear a band on my wrist every day that say warrior with my buddies name on it. He fought like a warrior no matter what and for me to do less in my fight against addiction will not honor his memory.

I fight today to kill the can. I fight like a warrior to honor the memory of my buddy.

RIP CBA 3-30-14

Hey bro. I guarantee that it does get easier. I think you're wrong on that. But I think you are right on then money when you say that people are wrong who think they don't have to worry about ever returning to tobacco. It probably never goes away, and you're never cured. But it does get easier, guaranteed. Endorse the back of that check and deposit it in your ATM. Keep the fight. Keep the focus. Keep the quit. IT DOES GET EASIER.

Royal, it does get easier, and for longer periods of time. You will still get funks, I had a 3 day funk early this week, but now you and I have the tools to know what it is, and what to do. I quit with you today Cowboy, hell of a quit you have right here.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

I've only been quit tobacco for 6 weeks but it scares me when I see people say it gets easier as if you don't have to worry about ever returning to using tobacco. That's bull shit. I'm sorry but from everything I've learned and gathered from Hall of Famers and articles on this website it never gets easier. Just because you've gone periods of time without tobacco doesn't mean you can ever think you have it beat. We have a disease that is trying to kill us. If we ever quit fighting it and become complacent it will sneak up at a moment of weakness. I had a buddy who recently passed away from cancer. He got cancer when he was 16 and beat it then he got sic k and while his body was weak the cancer came back and eventually killed him. I know fighting an addiction and fighting cancer are two different things but the point is disease will come back when we are weak. With an addiction we can control how weak we become so we must fight addiction daily no matter how many days we are quit. I wear a band on my wrist every day that say warrior with my buddies name on it. He fought like a warrior no matter what and for me to do less in my fight against addiction will not honor his memory.

I fight today to kill the can. I fight like a warrior to honor the memory of my buddy.

RIP CBA 3-30-14

Hey bro. I guarantee that it does get easier. I think you're wrong on that. But I think you are right on then money when you say that people are wrong who think they don't have to worry about ever returning to tobacco. It probably never goes away, and you're never cured. But it does get easier, guaranteed. Endorse the back of that check and deposit it in your ATM. Keep the fight. Keep the focus. Keep the quit. IT DOES GET EASIER.

[RoyalCowboy7]

I've only been quit tobacco for 6 weeks but it scares me when I see people say it gets easier as if you don't have to worry about ever returning to using tobacco. That's bull shit. I'm sorry but from everything I've learned and gathered from Hall of Famers and articles on this website it never gets easier. Just because you've gone periods of time without tobacco doesn't mean you can ever think you have it beat. We have a disease that is trying to kill us. If we ever quit fighting it and become complacent it will sneak up at a moment of weakness. I had a buddy who recently passed away from cancer. He got cancer when he was 16 and beat it then he got sic k and while his body was weak the cancer came back and eventually killed him. I know fighting an addiction and fighting cancer are two different things but the point is disease will come back when we are weak. With an addiction we can control how weak we become so we must fight addiction daily no matter how many days we are quit. I wear a band on my wrist every day that say warrior with my buddies name on it. He fought like a warrior no matter what and for me to do less in my fight against addiction will not honor his memory.

I fight today to kill the can. I fight like a warrior to honor the memory of my buddy.

RIP CBA 3-30-14

[RoyalCowboy7]

SirDerek and Ryan I appreciate it. ES proud to be quit with you sir. No doubt it will become easier but we can't ever become complacent. We are recovering addicts and the minute we allow ourselves to be caught off guard may lead to us coming back here answering the dreaded three questions and starting to post roll with another quit group. Addiction is a disease and we all have it so we must fight it every day because we are fighting for our lives. Glad to be quit with all of you here on KTC

[Enough snuff]

Been on vacation with limited Wifi so I've been in posting roll only mode this past week. I made it through my first vacation since killing the can and going tobacco free. It was quite pleasant not having to worry about needing to get dip or how much would I needed to last all week etc. I put in some Smokey Mountain one night to take away the temptation of using as two of my cousins are dippers and it intrigued them and I got to discuss my quit and share what I've learned from here. I hope it got through and they will join me in quitting. Also a side note I knew I had to be prepared going into an atmosphere where tobacco would be present so I got some Smokey Mountain to combat any temptation. It's a constant battle and we must always be prepared. Quit on my friends

nice job, chalk up a victory for you

nice win Royal. I remember the first vacation too. I was a train wreck. Keep up the great work my friend it just keeps getting better.

Royal - I see your quit date is 6/18...same as mine - I was on the stuff for 34 years buddy. We need to stay focused but there's no question in my old feeble mind that it gets easier each day. QUIT with you. Old ES

[Its_Got2Happen]

Been on vacation with limited Wifi so I've been in posting roll only mode this past week. I made it through my first vacation since killing the can and going tobacco free. It was quite pleasant not having to worry about needing to get dip or how much would I needed to last all week etc. I put in some Smokey Mountain one night to take away the temptation of using as two of my cousins are dippers and it intrigued them and I got to discuss my quit and share what I've learned from here. I hope it got through and they will join me in quitting. Also a side note I knew I had to be prepared going into an atmosphere where tobacco would be present so I got some Smokey Mountain to combat any temptation. It's a constant battle and we must always be prepared. Quit on my friends

nice job, chalk up a victory for you

nice win Royal. I remember the first vacation too. I was a train wreck. Keep up the great work my friend it just keeps getting better.