Quitting and ED

[Its_Got2Happen]

Sorry guys, I'm struggling. I have, however, stepped down to a lower patch mg.

I know, the patch is shit and it is not quitting. I know. I'm just doing it so that I won't have as bad of withdrawal symptoms when I do quit. I should have waiting to post on here when I was actually quitting.

I'm making progress towards quitting. This is the only semi successful way I've ever done it. When I do quit the patch, ill come back bc I'm gonna need a lot of support.

Using the patch is EXTENDING YOUR MISERY.

You aren't going to bleed to death. the ONLY way to stop nicotine is cold turkey.

using a patch or nic gum keeps your brain tricked into the notion that the fix is coming.

You have to end it. As it is said Shit or Get off the pot.

With Nicotine there IS NO 1/2 Measure.

Get some oral substitutes, (seeds, fake dip(Smoky Mountain), sugar free gum..

Take Valerian root or melatonin at night to help with sleep..

And Drink Water. Lots of Water. Reduce Caffeine and avoid Booze.

Quit Today, rip off that fucking patch and throw it in the trash. I know the withdrawal SUCK, that is why it is CALLED SUCK.

YOU EMBRACE THAT FUCKING SUCK SO you NEVER FORGET IT.

"stepped down to a lower patch huh?" I am really proud of you, WTF man, that is total shit. You said yourself that the patch is shit. And we both know that the withdrawal symptoms will not be less by messing around with that damn patch. Your wasting money and your wasting time.

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Read this and then go do what copingwithoutcopen told you to do. All the support in the world awaits you.

[copingwithoutcopen]

Wanna make some progress? Just stop killing yourself and post up... Right now, don't wait another second. Every second is another opportunity lost. Seize it brother and don't let go, no matter what. We'll be here.

[drock7]

semi successful,,, that doesnt exist with the nic whore.
26 years i was fooled by this little can of misery, records have
never shown one to die from nic withdrawals, quit quit quit, post roll and thats it, one day, not a life time, quit a day at a time and i will be right beside you. it sucks and thats why you need to do it, the poison is leaving my body as we speak. just do it

[nebraskadad58]

Sorry guys, I'm struggling. I have, however, stepped down to a lower patch mg.

I know, the patch is shit and it is not quitting. I know. I'm just doing it so that I won't have as bad of withdrawal symptoms when I do quit. I should have waiting to post on here when I was actually quitting.

I'm making progress towards quitting. This is the only semi successful way I've ever done it. When I do quit the patch, ill come back bc I'm gonna need a lot of support.

Using the patch is EXTENDING YOUR MISERY.

You aren't going to bleed to death. the ONLY way to stop nicotine is cold turkey.

using a patch or nic gum keeps your brain tricked into the notion that the fix is coming.

You have to end it. As it is said Shit or Get off the pot.

With Nicotine there IS NO 1/2 Measure.

Get some oral substitutes, (seeds, fake dip(Smoky Mountain), sugar free gum..

Take Valerian root or melatonin at night to help with sleep..

And Drink Water. Lots of Water. Reduce Caffeine and avoid Booze.

Quit Today, rip off that fucking patch and throw it in the trash. I know the withdrawal SUCK, that is why it is CALLED SUCK.

YOU EMBRACE THAT FUCKING SUCK SO you NEVER FORGET IT.

[srans]

Sorry guys, I'm struggling. I have, however, stepped down to a lower patch mg.

I know, the patch is shit and it is not quitting. I know. I'm just doing it so that I won't have as bad of withdrawal symptoms when I do quit. I should have waiting to post on here when I was actually quitting.

I'm making progress towards quitting. This is the only semi successful way I've ever done it. When I do quit the patch, ill come back bc I'm gonna need a lot of support.

Quit torturing yourself with never ending withdrawal. Stop nicotine consumption completely and it is out of your system in 3 days. In 7 days most start to actually feel good. Can't see how a long drawn out "tapering" torture on the patch is less painful than a quick cold turkey? You will eventually have to go cold turkey anyway if you ever really want to quit.

Your not having success,, you are torturing yourself. I give up trying to reason with you. When you're ready to really quit,, I'll be glad to quit with you.

[Notdeadyet]

Sorry guys, I'm struggling. I have, however, stepped down to a lower patch mg.

I know, the patch is shit and it is not quitting. I know. I'm just doing it so that I won't have as bad of withdrawal symptoms when I do quit. I should have waiting to post on here when I was actually quitting.

I'm making progress towards quitting. This is the only semi successful way I've ever done it. When I do quit the patch, ill come back bc I'm gonna need a lot of support.

Quit torturing yourself with never ending withdrawal. Stop nicotine consumption completely and it is out of your system in 3 days. In 7 days most start to actually feel good. Can't see how a long drawn out "tapering" torture on the patch is less painful than a quick cold turkey? You will eventually have to go cold turkey anyway if you ever really want to quit.

[woahbot]

Sorry guys, I'm struggling. I have, however, stepped down to a lower patch mg.

I know, the patch is shit and it is not quitting. I know. I'm just doing it so that I won't have as bad of withdrawal symptoms when I do quit. I should have waiting to post on here when I was actually quitting.

I'm making progress towards quitting. This is the only semi successful way I've ever done it. When I do quit the patch, ill come back bc I'm gonna need a lot of support.

[traumagnet]

Woahbot,
I have not given up on you are you off the patch yet?

[traumagnet]

nope he has his way of doing it...even though there is a post based on science and withdrawal...he would rather do the slow bandaid pull or he just cant say good bye to a bad relationship....

[Radman]

So..... is this dude off the patch and posting roll now? I didn't read all the way back to the beginning, so I may have missed it being posted here somewhere. Regardless, this thread is best answered by Scowick's post from a while back. I keep it handy because it's one of the best I've ever come across.

Scowick65:  Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

[jaynellie]

Glad to see razd finally got this guys attention..I think we all got tired of beating around the bush.. :wacko: .... 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'

[RAZD611]

you guys are twisted -- bottom line. is this a cult or a support website?

forgive me for "disrespecting that one principle" of using a nicotine patch. i didnt see that rule explicitly written anywhere on here.

Something does not need to be explicitly written to be law, something can become law simply by being. This site is a no nicotine site, that is putting it bluntly. Now you know, so explicitly stated or not, you know no nicotine.

There is a reason why it is no nicotine, nicotine replacement does not work and prolongs the pain.

Your body reacts the same way if it is not getting any nicotine or if is not getting enough (whatever you are used to). The patch calls for four weeks on a 28mg, then two weeks on 14mg, then two weeks on 7mg and you are done.

Most people here are on a can+ a day habit. The average can of chew is around 80mg. When you go from 80mg to 24mg, you might as well quit that way you do not have to suffer more when take the next two steps down.

The people here are smart people, listen and learn, I am 43 days quit today and feeling much better, if I had started with the patch I would currently be going through suck of reducing the nicotine from 14 to 7mg and have to look forward to the suck one more time as I dropped from 7mg to 0. Not to mention the fact that I would be about $200.00 lighter in the pocket book.

So my only challange to you, is when you read this, rip off the patch if you are still using it and throw the rest away, or if you went back to chewing, then flush the crap and read all of THIS and post roll HERE.

Trust me, you will thank all of us if you take one day at a time.

Good post quit. I just want this guy to see there is such an easier way. He is going through withdraws way longer because he believes a lie.

That is of he's still trying the patch. For all we know he's back on the other poison.

It's your move woahbot.

Here ya go "EXPLICITLY FUKIN WRITTEN" NO NIC OF ANY FORM!!! Orally, transdermal, nasal, vaginal, or anally.

Keep being a little bitch to the nic whore if that is what you choose. Just don't do it on our dime. There are other sites for that.

When you wanna face the fact that you are an addict and noone can smell the bullshit by an addict better than another addict.

Like I said. Get rid of your security blanket and get to quitten.

And of course we are a cult. Didn't you see the midget trannies, glass soapbox, 3 ton chicken coop, rainbow painted unicorn, old rusted out motorcycle, goats and other assorted farm animals on the way in?

[srans]

you guys are twisted -- bottom line. is this a cult or a support website?

forgive me for "disrespecting that one principle" of using a nicotine patch. i didnt see that rule explicitly written anywhere on here.

Something does not need to be explicitly written to be law, something can become law simply by being. This site is a no nicotine site, that is putting it bluntly. Now you know, so explicitly stated or not, you know no nicotine.

There is a reason why it is no nicotine, nicotine replacement does not work and prolongs the pain.

Your body reacts the same way if it is not getting any nicotine or if is not getting enough (whatever you are used to). The patch calls for four weeks on a 28mg, then two weeks on 14mg, then two weeks on 7mg and you are done.

Most people here are on a can+ a day habit. The average can of chew is around 80mg. When you go from 80mg to 24mg, you might as well quit that way you do not have to suffer more when take the next two steps down.

The people here are smart people, listen and learn, I am 43 days quit today and feeling much better, if I had started with the patch I would currently be going through suck of reducing the nicotine from 14 to 7mg and have to look forward to the suck one more time as I dropped from 7mg to 0. Not to mention the fact that I would be about $200.00 lighter in the pocket book.

So my only challange to you, is when you read this, rip off the patch if you are still using it and throw the rest away, or if you went back to chewing, then flush the crap and read all of THIS and post roll HERE.

Trust me, you will thank all of us if you take one day at a time.

Good post quit. I just want this guy to see there is such an easier way. He is going through withdraws way longer because he believes a lie.

That is of he's still trying the patch. For all we know he's back on the other poison.

It's your move woahbot.

[Quit]

you guys are twisted -- bottom line. is this a cult or a support website?

forgive me for "disrespecting that one principle" of using a nicotine patch. i didnt see that rule explicitly written anywhere on here.

Something does not need to be explicitly written to be law, something can become law simply by being. This site is a no nicotine site, that is putting it bluntly. Now you know, so explicitly stated or not, you know no nicotine.

There is a reason why it is no nicotine, nicotine replacement does not work and prolongs the pain.

Your body reacts the same way if it is not getting any nicotine or if is not getting enough (whatever you are used to). The patch calls for four weeks on a 28mg, then two weeks on 14mg, then two weeks on 7mg and you are done.

Most people here are on a can+ a day habit. The average can of chew is around 80mg. When you go from 80mg to 24mg, you might as well quit that way you do not have to suffer more when take the next two steps down.

The people here are smart people, listen and learn, I am 43 days quit today and feeling much better, if I had started with the patch I would currently be going through suck of reducing the nicotine from 14 to 7mg and have to look forward to the suck one more time as I dropped from 7mg to 0. Not to mention the fact that I would be about $200.00 lighter in the pocket book.

So my only challange to you, is when you read this, rip off the patch if you are still using it and throw the rest away, or if you went back to chewing, then flush the crap and read all of THIS and post roll HERE.

Trust me, you will thank all of us if you take one day at a time.

[srans]

Clearing up misunderstanding. This is Woahbots thread. The one with the patch stuck to him.