my introduction

[Pinched]

Good morning Dave.  Glad to see you so active just a day after joining the nut house crowd.  You should really post this up in your own intro instead of making a new one, but I am sure that one of the moderators will merge it with your other one.  As far as your friend goes, remember the old addage "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink?"  Its lessons applies here I think.  Some folks just think they can do it on their own.  I believe I just read somewhere on here that only 5% of nicotine users actually succeed on their own.  Offer your friend the sites web address and tell  him to come in and check KTC out.  There will be some sections that will be member only, but he can read alot of the material in the Welcome section for starters.  Nice job so far.

I merged your intros, Dave.

Regarding your question, think of all the times you tried to quit on your own and failed. You're friend may actually succeed but it's not likely.

Our quit strength is in the accountability built here and in the integrity of our promise when we post roll.

Keep going, my friend. You're doing it.

I had stoppages when I was younger at will I could just quit and be ok. Not really have big withdrawal issues but those were just stoppages nothing holding me to quit not even me. I knew that dip was just as far as it was to the gas station so no biggy. I think age has a lot to do with it how old is he? I stopped once for 60 days not a prob for insurance policy test. I knew it wasn't the last time I did the dirty with the whore so I was good. Yes I know stooooopppppid addict behavior.

The quit is totally different it was an animal of its own. Way more at stake than a stoppage. Its over.

Might ask him if he is quit or stopped. Also IMO you want to be as bad off as you can be when you are withdrawaling that way that physical ass kicking is deeply imprinted on your brain and NAFAR comes to mind.
Never Again For Any Reason

Hey I just wanted to let people know what I have been using to help me with my quit they are cinnamon jolly ranchers ,cinnamon disc, and my favorite thing that I have found is the atomic fire balls. Just wanted to share this in case it would help anyone out. Also I wanted to share this you guys all know how into this sportfan231 is into killthecan. Well early on before I decided I didn't need the nic bitch old sportsfan would tell me some things about killthecan I would always tell him I don't that kind of thing that's gay well guess where I am at right now I am on the killthecan.org and to let all of you know your organization is not gay and old sportsfan new that I needed this all along I just had to realize it for my self .
just remember everyone it is one day at a time

thanks sportsfan and everyone else that has given me support so far in my quit 29 days strong

It is truly amazing when you reach self-enlightenment and see that no one can do shit for you anymore and that you need to nut up and do shit for yourself.

Great advice on the alternatives, that will come in handy with many a new quitter. Keep doing what you are doing.

[Dave1903]

Good morning Dave.  Glad to see you so active just a day after joining the nut house crowd.  You should really post this up in your own intro instead of making a new one, but I am sure that one of the moderators will merge it with your other one.  As far as your friend goes, remember the old addage "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink?"  Its lessons applies here I think.  Some folks just think they can do it on their own.  I believe I just read somewhere on here that only 5% of nicotine users actually succeed on their own.  Offer your friend the sites web address and tell  him to come in and check KTC out.  There will be some sections that will be member only, but he can read alot of the material in the Welcome section for starters.  Nice job so far.

I merged your intros, Dave.

Regarding your question, think of all the times you tried to quit on your own and failed. You're friend may actually succeed but it's not likely.

Our quit strength is in the accountability built here and in the integrity of our promise when we post roll.

Keep going, my friend. You're doing it.

I had stoppages when I was younger at will I could just quit and be ok. Not really have big withdrawal issues but those were just stoppages nothing holding me to quit not even me. I knew that dip was just as far as it was to the gas station so no biggy. I think age has a lot to do with it how old is he? I stopped once for 60 days not a prob for insurance policy test. I knew it wasn't the last time I did the dirty with the whore so I was good. Yes I know stooooopppppid addict behavior.

The quit is totally different it was an animal of its own. Way more at stake than a stoppage. Its over.

Might ask him if he is quit or stopped. Also IMO you want to be as bad off as you can be when you are withdrawaling that way that physical ass kicking is deeply imprinted on your brain and NAFAR comes to mind.
Never Again For Any Reason

Hey I just wanted to let people know what I have been using to help me with my quit they are cinnamon jolly ranchers ,cinnamon disc, and my favorite thing that I have found is the atomic fire balls. Just wanted to share this in case it would help anyone out. Also I wanted to share this you guys all know how into this sportfan231 is into killthecan. Well early on before I decided I didn't need the nic bitch old sportsfan would tell me some things about killthecan I would always tell him I don't that kind of thing that's gay well guess where I am at right now I am on the killthecan.org and to let all of you know your organization is not gay and old sportsfan new that I needed this all along I just had to realize it for my self .
just remember everyone it is one day at a time

thanks sportsfan and everyone else that has given me support so far in my quit 29 days strong

[traumagnet]

Good morning Dave.  Glad to see you so active just a day after joining the nut house crowd.  You should really post this up in your own intro instead of making a new one, but I am sure that one of the moderators will merge it with your other one.  As far as your friend goes, remember the old addage "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink?"  Its lessons applies here I think.  Some folks just think they can do it on their own.  I believe I just read somewhere on here that only 5% of nicotine users actually succeed on their own.  Offer your friend the sites web address and tell  him to come in and check KTC out.  There will be some sections that will be member only, but he can read alot of the material in the Welcome section for starters.  Nice job so far.

I merged your intros, Dave.

Regarding your question, think of all the times you tried to quit on your own and failed. You're friend may actually succeed but it's not likely.

Our quit strength is in the accountability built here and in the integrity of our promise when we post roll.

Keep going, my friend. You're doing it.

I had stoppages when I was younger at will I could just quit and be ok. Not really have big withdrawal issues but those were just stoppages nothing holding me to quit not even me. I knew that dip was just as far as it was to the gas station so no biggy. I think age has a lot to do with it how old is he? I stopped once for 60 days not a prob for insurance policy test. I knew it wasn't the last time I did the dirty with the whore so I was good. Yes I know stooooopppppid addict behavior.

The quit is totally different it was an animal of its own. Way more at stake than a stoppage. Its over.

Might ask him if he is quit or stopped. Also IMO you want to be as bad off as you can be when you are withdrawaling that way that physical ass kicking is deeply imprinted on your brain and NAFAR comes to mind.
Never Again For Any Reason

[Keddy]

Good morning Dave. Glad to see you so active just a day after joining the nut house crowd. You should really post this up in your own intro instead of making a new one, but I am sure that one of the moderators will merge it with your other one. As far as your friend goes, remember the old addage "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink?" Its lessons applies here I think. Some folks just think they can do it on their own. I believe I just read somewhere on here that only 5% of nicotine users actually succeed on their own. Offer your friend the sites web address and tell him to come in and check KTC out. There will be some sections that will be member only, but he can read alot of the material in the Welcome section for starters. Nice job so far.

I merged your intros, Dave.

Regarding your question, think of all the times you tried to quit on your own and failed. You're friend may actually succeed but it's not likely.

Our quit strength is in the accountability built here and in the integrity of our promise when we post roll.

Keep going, my friend. You're doing it.

[ParadigmDawg]

Welcome man,

My main words of advise would have been to listen to Scott but it looks like you are covered there.

I will just throw up my quit timeline and maybe it will be of use to you.

My "suck scale" looked something like this:

Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.

Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day

Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.

Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.

Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.

Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.

Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!


Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.


Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".

Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.

Day 86-99: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.

Day 100-122: I am on a high as I have reached my first goal. My guard is held the highest it has ever been in because I will not disappoint all those who have helped me.

[wmcatty]

Good morning Dave. Glad to see you so active just a day after joining the nut house crowd. You should really post this up in your own intro instead of making a new one, but I am sure that one of the moderators will merge it with your other one. As far as your friend goes, remember the old addage "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink?" Its lessons applies here I think. Some folks just think they can do it on their own. I believe I just read somewhere on here that only 5% of nicotine users actually succeed on their own. Offer your friend the sites web address and tell him to come in and check KTC out. There will be some sections that will be member only, but he can read alot of the material in the Welcome section for starters. Nice job so far.

[Dave1903]

I was talking to a friend of mine that has quit for 7 days telling him about this great site that I joined. He says sounds like you are worst off than me. He says I haven't chewed for 7 days i done i said to him just remember one day at time and that they did not build Rome in a day.just wanting some thoughts on how to convince him its harder than what he think.sorry I rambled on for so long but this just struck a nerve with me I am happy he is quit I just dont think he understand how hard it is.

[Sportsfan231]

Welcome to KTC Dave.  Congrats on taking control of your life.  I sent you a pm, as there is not  much I can add to the wealth of advice you are getting already.  Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

Hey thanks everyone that has posted or pm today there were some great words of wisdom and encouragement given to me ..Everyone keep the quit going. It is so nice not to have to find a spit bottle and to say I'm quit today i am loving it, but I have some days that have sucked but I am lucky and live close to sportsfan and he will let me ramble on about it.

"Stick around, become a friend"

-said someone, can't quite put my finger on it

It seems I heard that before

[Adigg]

Welcome to KTC Dave.  Congrats on taking control of your life.  I sent you a pm, as there is not  much I can add to the wealth of advice you are getting already.  Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

Hey thanks everyone that has posted or pm today there were some great words of wisdom and encouragement given to me ..Everyone keep the quit going. It is so nice not to have to find a spit bottle and to say I'm quit today i am loving it, but I have some days that have sucked but I am lucky and live close to sportsfan and he will let me ramble on about it.

"Stick around, become a friend"

-said someone, can't quite put my finger on it

[Pinched]

Well look at your ass becoming a contributor on here! Well done sir. See we all help and get help all at the same time.

Newbies this kind of stuff is what makes this site work. When you come on here and rage or vent those who have walked that path before help but also get reminded about that same fucked up time in their past. The other newbies and some quit virgins see it as well.

Dave here stepped up and on his first day of posting also took the time to post in someone else's intro.

Well done brother!

[Dave1903]

Welcome to KTC Dave.  Congrats on taking control of your life.  I sent you a pm, as there is not  much I can add to the wealth of advice you are getting already.  Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

Hey thanks everyone that has posted or pm today there were some great words of wisdom and encouragement given to me ..Everyone keep the quit going. It is so nice not to have to find a spit bottle and to say I'm quit today i am loving it, but I have some days that have sucked but I am lucky and live close to sportsfan and he will let me ramble on about it.

[wmcatty]

Welcome to KTC Dave. Congrats on taking control of your life. I sent you a pm, as there is not much I can add to the wealth of advice you are getting already. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

[Scowick65]

The quit Sherpas have arrived. Follow them. They know the way to the top of the mountain. They have been there already.

[30isEnuff]

Welcome Dave you are a wise man, even if you are a friend of Scott.

A lot of people here think I'm a dick. Don't listen to them, I'm a pussy. A pussy who has been quit for 534 days.

If a pussy ass bitch like myself can do it, anyone can.

Stick around, follow the game plan, and together we will beat the fuck out of the nic whore with lead pipe cruelty.

Quit on...

I quit with Diesel Today and everyday I wake up!
Life is soooooooooo good when we're quit.

[Diesel2112]

Welcome Dave you are a wise man, even if you are a friend of Scott.

A lot of people here think I'm a dick. Don't listen to them, I'm a pussy. A pussy who has been quit for 534 days.

If a pussy ass bitch like myself can do it, anyone can.

Stick around, follow the game plan, and together we will beat the fuck out of the nic whore with lead pipe cruelty.

Quit on...