Plan v Obstacles

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Why 05NOV? I find out if I am having a boy or a girl . My wife is pregnant with our first child. I want my child to have a dad that is still living and still has a jaw. I currently have a high stress job and the enemy in the can helps with that. Well not anymore. Bring on the headaches and the shakes and the nausea because I am done with this shit. Like to hear from any current or former military for their tips and advice but any help is welcome.

Make it 04NOV.

Why put off until tomorrow what you can do today?

Honestly, wanna know the reason I quit? 3 years ago, I was driving my little tee baller around after a game (6). He hit a double, so I promised him beef jerky (his favorite). I went to 3 gas stations and none of them had any. It was really distressing to us both. I finally found some at a drive through....but it was only the shredded stuff in a can. I got that, and heard him him-haw around in the back seat. He asked if I was sure that beef jerky, and I assured him it was. We got home, he walked in to see mom, and promptly packed that fucking can right in front of her.

I've never felt so low in my life. I quit shortly thereafter.

What I found after I quit was that I couldn't quit for him, my wife, or my youngest. I had to quit for me. All they could do is inspire me to stay quit. Being a prospective father is awesome, and I'm very happy for you, but I just want you to know that you quit for you.

You can do this. Post roll. Make friends here. Read everything you can. Drink lots of water initially, and exercise. You want to push that poison out of your system. Limit your alcohol and caffeine (stupid choices, more potent) and strap on in. Quitting sucks at first, but it is the most rewarding thing you can do in this life.

We've got today, man.

What this guy said.^^^

Stop hanging your success or failure on externals. YOU have to quit, not your future son or daughter. Not your wife. Not your CO. YOU.

Quits are not successful because of birthdays, births, weddings, anniversaries, New Year's, Christmas or Labor Day. Quits are successful when a man says, "I will not dip TODAY." Then he keeps his word for TODAY.

Fuck tomorrow. Quit now. NOW is a very powerful thing.

Do it.

Quit now.

[Nolaq]

Why 05NOV? I find out if I am having a boy or a girl . My wife is pregnant with our first child. I want my child to have a dad that is still living and still has a jaw. I currently have a high stress job and the enemy in the can helps with that. Well not anymore. Bring on the headaches and the shakes and the nausea because I am done with this shit. Like to hear from any current or former military for their tips and advice but any help is welcome.

Make it 04NOV.

Why put off until tomorrow what you can do today?

Honestly, wanna know the reason I quit? 3 years ago, I was driving my little tee baller around after a game (6). He hit a double, so I promised him beef jerky (his favorite). I went to 3 gas stations and none of them had any. It was really distressing to us both. I finally found some at a drive through....but it was only the shredded stuff in a can. I got that, and heard him him-haw around in the back seat. He asked if I was sure that beef jerky, and I assured him it was. We got home, he walked in to see mom, and promptly packed that fucking can right in front of her.

I've never felt so low in my life. I quit shortly thereafter.

What I found after I quit was that I couldn't quit for him, my wife, or my youngest. I had to quit for me. All they could do is inspire me to stay quit. Being a prospective father is awesome, and I'm very happy for you, but I just want you to know that you quit for you.

You can do this. Post roll. Make friends here. Read everything you can. Drink lots of water initially, and exercise. You want to push that poison out of your system. Limit your alcohol and caffeine (stupid choices, more potent) and strap on in. Quitting sucks at first, but it is the most rewarding thing you can do in this life.

We've got today, man.

What this guy said.^^^

Stop hanging your success or failure on externals. YOU have to quit, not your future son or daughter. Not your wife. Not your CO. YOU.

Quits are not successful because of birthdays, births, weddings, anniversaries, New Year's, Christmas or Labor Day. Quits are successful when a man says, "I will not dip TODAY." Then he keeps his word for TODAY.

Fuck tomorrow. Quit now. NOW is a very powerful thing.

Do it.

[wastepanel]

Why 05NOV? I find out if I am having a boy or a girl . My wife is pregnant with our first child. I want my child to have a dad that is still living and still has a jaw. I currently have a high stress job and the enemy in the can helps with that. Well not anymore. Bring on the headaches and the shakes and the nausea because I am done with this shit. Like to hear from any current or former military for their tips and advice but any help is welcome.

Make it 04NOV.

Why put off until tomorrow what you can do today?

Honestly, wanna know the reason I quit? 3 years ago, I was driving my little tee baller around after a game (6). He hit a double, so I promised him beef jerky (his favorite). I went to 3 gas stations and none of them had any. It was really distressing to us both. I finally found some at a drive through....but it was only the shredded stuff in a can. I got that, and heard him him-haw around in the back seat. He asked if I was sure that beef jerky, and I assured him it was. We got home, he walked in to see mom, and promptly packed that fucking can right in front of her.

I've never felt so low in my life. I quit shortly thereafter.

What I found after I quit was that I couldn't quit for him, my wife, or my youngest. I had to quit for me. All they could do is inspire me to stay quit. Being a prospective father is awesome, and I'm very happy for you, but I just want you to know that you quit for you.

You can do this. Post roll. Make friends here. Read everything you can. Drink lots of water initially, and exercise. You want to push that poison out of your system. Limit your alcohol and caffeine (stupid choices, more potent) and strap on in. Quitting sucks at first, but it is the most rewarding thing you can do in this life.

We've got today, man.

[Tuco]

Either you never quit or you caved. I'm guessing it's the former, since your newest intro shows a "planned" quit for tomorrow just like this one is a lot of blathering about weaning and treating yourself to night time cat turds.

For someone that is active duty military, you sure are a massive pussy when it comes to fighting your addiction. That's coming from a civilian, by the way.

Just think: if you had sacked up and got this thing done back when you first joined, you would have over 100 days quit under your belt by now.

[J4893]

Why 05NOV? I find out if I am having a boy or a girl . My wife is pregnant with our first child. I want my child to have a dad that is still living and still has a jaw. I currently have a high stress job and the enemy in the can helps with that. Well not anymore. Bring on the headaches and the shakes and the nausea because I am done with this shit. Like to hear from any current or former military for their tips and advice but any help is welcome.

[DirtyHarry10]

There is not much I can add that hasn't already been said. I'll stress though that quitting cold turkey is the right way. I too am around dippers all day. It was a pain in the ass the first couple of days. I'm only quit day +10 now, but I noticed that around day 5 I started to look at the dippers a little differently. It almost looked disgusting. I am starting to learn to hate it. You will too.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Are you still chewing that nasty death weed? Grab your sack, spit it out, and post up. Let's get this quit on.

[Landdon]

It's not easy. I know when I was in college I had a lot of dudes around me that dipped, and I couldn't stay quit either. All I can say to you is commit to posting roll every morning first thing, then get some phone numbers of some buds in your quit qroup and if you find yourself in a situation where you are going to cave, call them. Also, on your phone make your background a picture of someone with mouth cancer. Look at that every day. Read stories on here of people who said it could never happen to them.

Ask your wife if she finds that wad of crap in your mouth sexy? Get her involved in your quit. Let her know that date. Show her the site, and let her see the countdown and monitor how much money your saving.

Know this. When you quit, I and everyone else here will be quitting with you every single day. EVERY DAY. We will all quit together.

[srans]

itaryI need to quit and more importantly, I want to quit. I am a husband and hopefully a soon to be father. That by itself is enough to quit.
I have a lot of obstacles in the way however. I am in the military and about half of my Soldiers dip. It is common practice and I cannot walk through my company area without seeing atleast one person dipping. I dip in the field, late nights, after PT wake up dip, boring office work dip, etc... On top of all these, I am deploying soon and know that it will be extremely tough to quit while I am downrange.

I have quit before (3 years ago) and I basically weaned myself to 3 lips a day for a week, then 2, then 1. Then about a month after I started back up. I would like to have the discipline to completely stop all together but I am also a realist. My goal is to get myself down to 2 lips a day while deployed. Cut out any morning dip, save it for the stressful afternoons and my relaxing time at night. Eventually get rid of my afternoon dip and 'treat' myself at night for the discipline to last throughout the day. Then cut out my night time dip.

I would like to come back from downrange dip free. That is my endstate.

I am looking for advice from anyone who has beat this beast. Any current or former military will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for time, advice, and for helping me stop this suicide by tobacco.

welcome j - you've come to the right place for help. I don't have military training, but i got some coaching training in this old shell of mine. You have a tough situation with people around you using, but bottom line, you gotta be bigger than that. I'm only quit day 37 after 34 years. YOU have to want to do it. Your game plan looks solid. Best advice from old ES is to go cold turkey. I just posted my intro tonight in the Sept Sultan Gang. Have a gander at it and I'll quit with you. It will be the best decision we both make. old ES

We all have reasons to quit; we all have excuses not to do it now. Forget the plan, I had a plan similar to yours over two years ago and if I'd tried dragging it out, I'd still be dipping. Just man up and quit today and repeat tomorrow. It's gonna suck, it did for me and everyone else but we did it and still are everyday. Thank you for your service and I will be more than happy to serve you by helping you through the next few weeks of suck by offering my support and encouragement, just pm me for my number. As a 4+ decade addict I understand the pain that our addiction can cause and how easy rationalization is. If your serious you'll flush "all" your stash now and promise to stay clean the rest of today.

I am in the Air force J4893. I started my quit 56 days ago and havent looked back. I work in ISR support for the guys on the ground (you i would assume by your intro). Honestly, the day i chose to throw it away, I read this story about Tom and Jenny Kern and substitute the members with my wife and kids and I. Its not a tough one past that... I dont want to leave my wife with that burden and I never want my daughter to have to bury her dad because he put poison in his lip every day.

As far as other dippers around me... doesn't make a difference. My needs surpass the visual hints that my brain wants to give. Fuck my brain. I live with my heart these days...

Quit like fuck dude and never turn back.

Thank you for your service. What you do for a living takes more courage than I can imagine, but you are afraid of quitting use of a poison weed that will kill you? Fuck the weaning nonsense, it only prolongs the physical withdrawal symptoms. Flush your poison and quit cold turkey. You have never quit before, only took a break or had a stoppage. You are an addict just like me and everyone else on KTC! The only difference is you are still a slave to the poison. Read the welcome center here and start educating yourself about nicotine addiction. Don't be afraid. You do not and never have needed the poison to live and function. Yes the first part of a quit is hell, but it can be done, and you can do it! Freedom is worth fighting for, and I would think you believe that or you wouldn't be in the service. Isn't your own freedom worth fighting for? PM me if you need anything.

Listen to the above. He knows what he's talking about. There is no playing footsies with the poison. It is an unfair apponent that uses your own brain against you. It's manipulative and cunning. It only does one thing very well. It takes intil there is nothing left to take. There is no weaning, planning, wishing, hoping and wanting. There is only quitting today. That is the only way that works for sure. Post the hell up and let's just quit. Thats what I've done for 526 days. Not one reason you can't do the same. Your move.

[B-loMatt]

itaryI need to quit and more importantly, I want to quit. I am a husband and hopefully a soon to be father. That by itself is enough to quit.
I have a lot of obstacles in the way however. I am in the military and about half of my Soldiers dip. It is common practice and I cannot walk through my company area without seeing atleast one person dipping. I dip in the field, late nights, after PT wake up dip, boring office work dip, etc... On top of all these, I am deploying soon and know that it will be extremely tough to quit while I am downrange.

I have quit before (3 years ago) and I basically weaned myself to 3 lips a day for a week, then 2, then 1. Then about a month after I started back up. I would like to have the discipline to completely stop all together but I am also a realist. My goal is to get myself down to 2 lips a day while deployed. Cut out any morning dip, save it for the stressful afternoons and my relaxing time at night. Eventually get rid of my afternoon dip and 'treat' myself at night for the discipline to last throughout the day. Then cut out my night time dip.

I would like to come back from downrange dip free. That is my endstate.

I am looking for advice from anyone who has beat this beast. Any current or former military will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for time, advice, and for helping me stop this suicide by tobacco.

welcome j - you've come to the right place for help. I don't have military training, but i got some coaching training in this old shell of mine. You have a tough situation with people around you using, but bottom line, you gotta be bigger than that. I'm only quit day 37 after 34 years. YOU have to want to do it. Your game plan looks solid. Best advice from old ES is to go cold turkey. I just posted my intro tonight in the Sept Sultan Gang. Have a gander at it and I'll quit with you. It will be the best decision we both make. old ES

We all have reasons to quit; we all have excuses not to do it now. Forget the plan, I had a plan similar to yours over two years ago and if I'd tried dragging it out, I'd still be dipping. Just man up and quit today and repeat tomorrow. It's gonna suck, it did for me and everyone else but we did it and still are everyday. Thank you for your service and I will be more than happy to serve you by helping you through the next few weeks of suck by offering my support and encouragement, just pm me for my number. As a 4+ decade addict I understand the pain that our addiction can cause and how easy rationalization is. If your serious you'll flush "all" your stash now and promise to stay clean the rest of today.

I am in the Air force J4893. I started my quit 56 days ago and havent looked back. I work in ISR support for the guys on the ground (you i would assume by your intro). Honestly, the day i chose to throw it away, I read this story about Tom and Jenny Kern and substitute the members with my wife and kids and I. Its not a tough one past that... I dont want to leave my wife with that burden and I never want my daughter to have to bury her dad because he put poison in his lip every day.

As far as other dippers around me... doesn't make a difference. My needs surpass the visual hints that my brain wants to give. Fuck my brain. I live with my heart these days...

Quit like fuck dude and never turn back.

Thank you for your service. What you do for a living takes more courage than I can imagine, but you are afraid of quitting use of a poison weed that will kill you? Fuck the weaning nonsense, it only prolongs the physical withdrawal symptoms. Flush your poison and quit cold turkey. You have never quit before, only took a break or had a stoppage. You are an addict just like me and everyone else on KTC! The only difference is you are still a slave to the poison. Read the welcome center here and start educating yourself about nicotine addiction. Don't be afraid. You do not and never have needed the poison to live and function. Yes the first part of a quit is hell, but it can be done, and you can do it! Freedom is worth fighting for, and I would think you believe that or you wouldn't be in the service. Isn't your own freedom worth fighting for? PM me if you need anything.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Quit being a pussy.

[Jarhead19]

Drop it completely, you'll be glad you did, actually best to do it while deployed. That way you can be a complete dick and still stay married. Cause you're GONNA be an asshole for a week. No pressure from the store you always go to or times in everyday that you dip. I remember being deployed and actually packing half my pack with tins, I wasn't running out and those who did beware of the price!! get numbers for those rough times and try to get them on the kakao app, sounds crazy but the more crazy ass conversations you have the less you think about it.

MAN UP AND DUMP THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN FLUSH IT, DONT BE A DUMPSTER DIVER.

Let us know how it's going, and someone will be here to walk you through, FYI we don't hold hands, it may not be pretty but here's lesson #1 QLF=quit like fuck!!

[Antisaint]

itaryI need to quit and more importantly, I want to quit. I am a husband and hopefully a soon to be father. That by itself is enough to quit.
I have a lot of obstacles in the way however. I am in the military and about half of my Soldiers dip. It is common practice and I cannot walk through my company area without seeing atleast one person dipping. I dip in the field, late nights, after PT wake up dip, boring office work dip, etc... On top of all these, I am deploying soon and know that it will be extremely tough to quit while I am downrange.

I have quit before (3 years ago) and I basically weaned myself to 3 lips a day for a week, then 2, then 1. Then about a month after I started back up. I would like to have the discipline to completely stop all together but I am also a realist. My goal is to get myself down to 2 lips a day while deployed. Cut out any morning dip, save it for the stressful afternoons and my relaxing time at night. Eventually get rid of my afternoon dip and 'treat' myself at night for the discipline to last throughout the day. Then cut out my night time dip.

I would like to come back from downrange dip free. That is my endstate.

I am looking for advice from anyone who has beat this beast. Any current or former military will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for time, advice, and for helping me stop this suicide by tobacco.

welcome j - you've come to the right place for help. I don't have military training, but i got some coaching training in this old shell of mine. You have a tough situation with people around you using, but bottom line, you gotta be bigger than that. I'm only quit day 37 after 34 years. YOU have to want to do it. Your game plan looks solid. Best advice from old ES is to go cold turkey. I just posted my intro tonight in the Sept Sultan Gang. Have a gander at it and I'll quit with you. It will be the best decision we both make. old ES

We all have reasons to quit; we all have excuses not to do it now. Forget the plan, I had a plan similar to yours over two years ago and if I'd tried dragging it out, I'd still be dipping. Just man up and quit today and repeat tomorrow. It's gonna suck, it did for me and everyone else but we did it and still are everyday. Thank you for your service and I will be more than happy to serve you by helping you through the next few weeks of suck by offering my support and encouragement, just pm me for my number. As a 4+ decade addict I understand the pain that our addiction can cause and how easy rationalization is. If your serious you'll flush "all" your stash now and promise to stay clean the rest of today.

I am in the Air force J4893. I started my quit 56 days ago and havent looked back. I work in ISR support for the guys on the ground (you i would assume by your intro). Honestly, the day i chose to throw it away, I read this story about Tom and Jenny Kern and substitute the members with my wife and kids and I. Its not a tough one past that... I dont want to leave my wife with that burden and I never want my daughter to have to bury her dad because he put poison in his lip every day.

As far as other dippers around me... doesn't make a difference. My needs surpass the visual hints that my brain wants to give. Fuck my brain. I live with my heart these days...

Quit like fuck dude and never turn back.

[Wt57]

itaryI need to quit and more importantly, I want to quit. I am a husband and hopefully a soon to be father. That by itself is enough to quit.
I have a lot of obstacles in the way however. I am in the military and about half of my Soldiers dip. It is common practice and I cannot walk through my company area without seeing atleast one person dipping. I dip in the field, late nights, after PT wake up dip, boring office work dip, etc... On top of all these, I am deploying soon and know that it will be extremely tough to quit while I am downrange.

I have quit before (3 years ago) and I basically weaned myself to 3 lips a day for a week, then 2, then 1. Then about a month after I started back up. I would like to have the discipline to completely stop all together but I am also a realist. My goal is to get myself down to 2 lips a day while deployed. Cut out any morning dip, save it for the stressful afternoons and my relaxing time at night. Eventually get rid of my afternoon dip and 'treat' myself at night for the discipline to last throughout the day. Then cut out my night time dip.

I would like to come back from downrange dip free. That is my endstate.

I am looking for advice from anyone who has beat this beast. Any current or former military will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for time, advice, and for helping me stop this suicide by tobacco.

welcome j - you've come to the right place for help. I don't have military training, but i got some coaching training in this old shell of mine. You have a tough situation with people around you using, but bottom line, you gotta be bigger than that. I'm only quit day 37 after 34 years. YOU have to want to do it. Your game plan looks solid. Best advice from old ES is to go cold turkey. I just posted my intro tonight in the Sept Sultan Gang. Have a gander at it and I'll quit with you. It will be the best decision we both make. old ES

We all have reasons to quit; we all have excuses not to do it now. Forget the plan, I had a plan similar to yours over two years ago and if I'd tried dragging it out, I'd still be dipping. Just man up and quit today and repeat tomorrow. It's gonna suck, it did for me and everyone else but we did it and still are everyday. Thank you for your service and I will be more than happy to serve you by helping you through the next few weeks of suck by offering my support and encouragement, just pm me for my number. As a 4+ decade addict I understand the pain that our addiction can cause and how easy rationalization is. If your serious you'll flush "all" your stash now and promise to stay clean the rest of today.

[Enough snuff]

itaryI need to quit and more importantly, I want to quit. I am a husband and hopefully a soon to be father. That by itself is enough to quit.
I have a lot of obstacles in the way however. I am in the military and about half of my Soldiers dip. It is common practice and I cannot walk through my company area without seeing atleast one person dipping. I dip in the field, late nights, after PT wake up dip, boring office work dip, etc... On top of all these, I am deploying soon and know that it will be extremely tough to quit while I am downrange.

I have quit before (3 years ago) and I basically weaned myself to 3 lips a day for a week, then 2, then 1. Then about a month after I started back up. I would like to have the discipline to completely stop all together but I am also a realist. My goal is to get myself down to 2 lips a day while deployed. Cut out any morning dip, save it for the stressful afternoons and my relaxing time at night. Eventually get rid of my afternoon dip and 'treat' myself at night for the discipline to last throughout the day. Then cut out my night time dip.

I would like to come back from downrange dip free. That is my endstate.

I am looking for advice from anyone who has beat this beast. Any current or former military will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for time, advice, and for helping me stop this suicide by tobacco.

welcome j - you've come to the right place for help. I don't have military training, but i got some coaching training in this old shell of mine. You have a tough situation with people around you using, but bottom line, you gotta be bigger than that. I'm only quit day 37 after 34 years. YOU have to want to do it. Your game plan looks solid. Best advice from old ES is to go cold turkey. I just posted my intro tonight in the Sept Sultan Gang. Have a gander at it and I'll quit with you. It will be the best decision we both make. old ES