My introduction

[brianl]

Apparently word is catching around that two of us here in the unit are quitting. There have been two more people who expressed interest, one who is at Day 2 and should be registering soon. Dipping is rampant in the Army and in our unit, and there are a lot of people who think it is just part of the culture. I'm surprised that there are so many people who want to quit now, but I also hope they are taking it as seriously as it is.

If you see my fellow soldiers here, don't cut them any slack. Kick their ass if they sound like they want to cave, and encourage them when they are in the fog.

This website has done wonders for my quit...and really kept me strong...do the same for the new guys!


If you're new and quitting: You can do it. You will not want to at times, but you CAN. Kick the nic bitch in the face and take back your life.

That's awesome Andrew!!

I'll keep my eyes open for them. Stay Quit my brother.

Brian

[andrew]

Apparently word is catching around that two of us here in the unit are quitting. There have been two more people who expressed interest, one who is at Day 2 and should be registering soon. Dipping is rampant in the Army and in our unit, and there are a lot of people who think it is just part of the culture. I'm surprised that there are so many people who want to quit now, but I also hope they are taking it as seriously as it is.

If you see my fellow soldiers here, don't cut them any slack. Kick their ass if they sound like they want to cave, and encourage them when they are in the fog.

This website has done wonders for my quit...and really kept me strong...do the same for the new guys!


If you're new and quitting: You can do it. You will not want to at times, but you CAN. Kick the nic bitch in the face and take back your life.

[jaygib]

Just got some of that Smokey Mountain that everyone's been talking about. I have to say, this is pretty tasty. Almost in a scary way. I will definitely keep this in mind when I am driving on the roads for long periods of time, though...it's a good alternative. The Hooch stuff...a little grainy for me...and the flavors are weird. Anyway, it's just a thought. I wish this would have gotten here weeks ago, as it helps me to divert some of the stress. Dip dreams haven't been an issue lately, I'm really feeling a lot better right now. Glad I got past the fog....one day at a time...

Have a couple cans of the hooch and I definately prefer the smokey mtn. Got a 10 pack early during the pretend to quit phase and between mixing with grizz and just trying that when my real quit started I had one can that didn't make it past day 1. But that was enough to survive day 1. And when I mixed some tobasco with that wintergreen it did wonders for burn and spitability. Man, I can't wait til the time comes again when having a pack in my lip doesn't sound great but till then I can just say FU to the grizz everytime I see him at the gas station.

Well done on the month, keep it up

[andrew]

Just got some of that Smokey Mountain that everyone's been talking about. I have to say, this is pretty tasty. Almost in a scary way. I will definitely keep this in mind when I am driving on the roads for long periods of time, though...it's a good alternative. The Hooch stuff...a little grainy for me...and the flavors are weird. Anyway, it's just a thought. I wish this would have gotten here weeks ago, as it helps me to divert some of the stress. Dip dreams haven't been an issue lately, I'm really feeling a lot better right now. Glad I got past the fog....one day at a time...

[csucomms1]

congrats Andrew on your 30 days! I am getting there one day at a time. You sir, serve as an inspiration to me during my quit. I admire your stamina to stay the course and keep that shit out of your mouth, especially in a combat zone! I myself will be headed over your way in less than a month, but I do contract work while living onboard Aircraft Carriers. Anyway just wanted to stop by and say congrats and that I am proud to quit with you and the rest of us April Drama Queens!

[Bean]

Congrats...30 days is huge, bud. Remember...it is done one day at a time.

[brianl]

30 DAYS NIC FREE!

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone on here for supporting me and putting up with me for the past month. Today I will celebrate my 30th day without putting nicotine in my body. I will quit again today and stand by that quit with the support of everyone on here and my own personal resolve. Thanks all, 70 more days till HOF!

30 days!!!
That's fucking awesome! 'clap'
Don't worry about the next 70. Worry about keeping your promise for today and then repeat tomorrow.

Brian

[andrew]

30 DAYS NIC FREE!

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone on here for supporting me and putting up with me for the past month. Today I will celebrate my 30th day without putting nicotine in my body. I will quit again today and stand by that quit with the support of everyone on here and my own personal resolve. Thanks all, 70 more days till HOF!

[NDvictory88]

So today I walked out of the chow hall and thought to myself "Man, I could really use some......gum!"  That is to say that the first thing that came to mind after eating wasn't dip or dipping.  I was actually happy with myself once I realized that.

Yes, I did get a box of Hooch yesterday.  Actually, they sent me quite a bit of it, probably because of my circumstance, but in any case I tried some and I have to say that if I were still dipping this stuff would be disgusting, but while quitting I could see this being useful.  I'm still going to chew gum for the most part, but there are times when I am craving something and have headphones on or earpieces in my and chewing gum irritates the hell out of me....and I can see the Hooch standing in well for that.  I think I ordered a Smokey Mountain trial pack a while back too (one of those free trial packs), so I guess I'll try some of that too. 

I'm not really a big fan of having something sit in my mouth anymore, so I'm wondering if I'm going to use all of this stuff and the stuff that's still in the mail.  I might just save it till I get back to the states and have to drive a long distance, that's probably the biggest trigger I have by far.



-edit- Oh, and as far as dipping coffee goes, there is an Army "field dip" that involves opening a packet of instant coffee, dumping it into a small square of toilet paper, and then sticking that in your lip.  I've seen in done countless times and have done it myself.  It's straight up nasty.

Nice post. You gotta deal with the oral fixation on way or the other. It will take several months to do. Try not to use the fake shit. It is far to close in look, feel, and use to the real shit. It still costs money and simply makes it that much easier to "justify".

Maybe you can handle it. Maybe you are strong enough to make clear distinctions. LOOT ain't and LOOT knows it.

Know your limits. Don't test them. It's not worth it in this instance.

Be cool....be clean.

Never again, for any reason.

Shoot at some bad guys for LOOT today.

I still use the fake stuff from time to time. Helps with a lot of what was my biggest triggers. Yeah, it looks and feels a lot like the real stuff. However, if this site has taught me that I can shove anything i want to into my mouth as long as its nic free.

[loot]

So today I walked out of the chow hall and thought to myself "Man, I could really use some......gum!" That is to say that the first thing that came to mind after eating wasn't dip or dipping. I was actually happy with myself once I realized that.

Yes, I did get a box of Hooch yesterday. Actually, they sent me quite a bit of it, probably because of my circumstance, but in any case I tried some and I have to say that if I were still dipping this stuff would be disgusting, but while quitting I could see this being useful. I'm still going to chew gum for the most part, but there are times when I am craving something and have headphones on or earpieces in my and chewing gum irritates the hell out of me....and I can see the Hooch standing in well for that. I think I ordered a Smokey Mountain trial pack a while back too (one of those free trial packs), so I guess I'll try some of that too.

I'm not really a big fan of having something sit in my mouth anymore, so I'm wondering if I'm going to use all of this stuff and the stuff that's still in the mail. I might just save it till I get back to the states and have to drive a long distance, that's probably the biggest trigger I have by far.



-edit- Oh, and as far as dipping coffee goes, there is an Army "field dip" that involves opening a packet of instant coffee, dumping it into a small square of toilet paper, and then sticking that in your lip. I've seen in done countless times and have done it myself. It's straight up nasty.

Nice post. You gotta deal with the oral fixation on way or the other. It will take several months to do. Try not to use the fake shit. It is far to close in look, feel, and use to the real shit. It still costs money and simply makes it that much easier to "justify".

Maybe you can handle it. Maybe you are strong enough to make clear distinctions. LOOT ain't and LOOT knows it.

Know your limits. Don't test them. It's not worth it in this instance.

Be cool....be clean.

Never again, for any reason.

Shoot at some bad guys for LOOT today.

[andrew]

So today I walked out of the chow hall and thought to myself "Man, I could really use some......gum!" That is to say that the first thing that came to mind after eating wasn't dip or dipping. I was actually happy with myself once I realized that.

Yes, I did get a box of Hooch yesterday. Actually, they sent me quite a bit of it, probably because of my circumstance, but in any case I tried some and I have to say that if I were still dipping this stuff would be disgusting, but while quitting I could see this being useful. I'm still going to chew gum for the most part, but there are times when I am craving something and have headphones on or earpieces in my and chewing gum irritates the hell out of me....and I can see the Hooch standing in well for that. I think I ordered a Smokey Mountain trial pack a while back too (one of those free trial packs), so I guess I'll try some of that too.

I'm not really a big fan of having something sit in my mouth anymore, so I'm wondering if I'm going to use all of this stuff and the stuff that's still in the mail. I might just save it till I get back to the states and have to drive a long distance, that's probably the biggest trigger I have by far.



-edit- Oh, and as far as dipping coffee goes, there is an Army "field dip" that involves opening a packet of instant coffee, dumping it into a small square of toilet paper, and then sticking that in your lip. I've seen in done countless times and have done it myself. It's straight up nasty.

[Mjollnir]

I feel stressed out today and have been chewing gum like crazy and eating seeds like a starving pigeon.  This sucks.  I wish my fake stuff would get here soon...I should have ordered it back in December when I decided I was going to quit...what was I thinking, it'd probably be here by now if I'd have ordered then.

Unwrap your thoughts, Andrew.

You do need to lose the "oral satisfaction" stigma, I'd imagine it's just as important as losing the nicotine.

It's been said before......when I quit drinking, the worst thing I could have done (other than drinking beer) would have been drinking "near beer".

Just my two cents.

I've been sober for 19 years and never used "near beer", it was dangerous because it had a small amount of alcohol in it. I did use the fake dip though, and it helped. Just going through the initial ritual of opening the can was a little scary because it was very familiar, however there is no nicotine in the fake stuff so it is perfectly safe. I found that it calmed me pretty quickly. Its the drug we are addicted to, not the fixation. If you get wiggy, try some coffee grounds or tea leaves. (Never tried the coffee myself, but I've heard it works)

[andrew]

Yeah, I understand. That's why I wish I would have ordered it sooner or not ordered it at all, I'm afraid it's going to mess with my lips and gums again. I think they've been healing, from what I can tell...my tongue was really sore and swelled a little bit after the first week but I think it's about normal now. Who knows.

[jaygib]

Ain't trying to judge or criticize if I came off that way. Hell if my lip/gums didn't hurt I'd probably be going through a can a day of the fake stuff now, so my message to you was as much for my benefit as anyone's.

[andrew]

I'm not hoping for the fake stuff to get here that badly, it's mostly just that I could have used it this week and probably not in two weeks when it finally gets here....in other words, money wasted. I should have thought ahead a little bit when I started my quit.......

Seeds are ok, but they cost me calories...gum is good but my teeth are hurting from chewing gum all the time. I've been chewing things since I was born (the collar of my shirt, my fingers, whatever)...it's just one of those things.

I ain't making excuses, I'm not going to cave. No nic ever again, this pain is definitely making that for sure.





It would also be easier for someone to be critical when they can solve a craving by...getting something to eat or running the grocery store. I don't have that luxury, I get a craving and I order fake shit online and wait three weeks for it to get here. It sucks.