Mthomastherapy

[Bean]

My friends on KTC.  We all know that it hurts to quit.  You may be in detox, in a fog, complacent, wondering if you are ever going to poop again...Whatever it is, you are in a Fight!!!  A true battle that can be painful. 

I woke up today on day 23.  I had some craves and thought, damn I need to promise today but I'm tired of the fight.  (What a piss poor attitude I had)  Then, something snapped inside me.  Right after I posted roll, I decided to fight today, to endure, and to grin in the fight.  I'm going to enjoy my quit, love my quit and win.  We are optimists, we are winning every day, we are real men choosing to control our addictions!  The vets can lead me into battle any day of the week.  I say lets go now and not make haste but expose the truth and resist the enemy with resolve that we will never, never, ever, surrender to the seductions of the harlot called Tobacco.  

Why face this as difficult and hard?  Sure we all know that, but where is the optimism?  Embrace the Suck.  Enjoy the battle!  I look to Winston Churchill looking at Hitler and the real threat England faced from their enemy....(My grandparents lived in England during the war.  He told me how Winston Churchill could have had every citizen stand a post with rolling pins even if the Germans had machine guns.)   

I say stand up and treat tobacco as our own personal Hitler.  Here is a few quotes Winston said that apply to our fight against tobacco.

Today I am going with two.  "I like it when a man grins when he fights" and  "If you're going through hell, keep going."



"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"

"You have enemies?  Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life" 

"Continuous effort - Not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential"

"Difficulties Mastered are opportunities won"

"I am an optimist.  It doesn't seem too much use being anything else."

"It is no use saying, 'we are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary." 

"Kites rise against the wind, not with it."

"Never, never, never, give up!"

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."

"These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived"

DIDDO everything you said!!!

encouraging yes-

but why is this posted here and not in June?

Now I feel like a dumb ass. I thought Quit groups were for posting role. Then I go in there and see that there is more than that.

I will post things like this in June going forward.

That is good shit no matter where you post it. Turn the tables on the Nic Bitch like I did to the radio DJ's that wouldn't quit playing that Sugar Ray song "I Just Want to Fly." I told my girlfriend that I suspected that there was a conspiracy make me sick of that song. I turned the tables on the radio and was determined to like it more each time I heard it.

And guess what...that crap isn't on the radio anymore and now that girl is my wife. That is a Win - Win right there that's what that is.

Embrace the suck. Have fun in the fog. You'll only go through it once...live it up!!!

[Mthomas3824]

My friends on KTC.  We all know that it hurts to quit.  You may be in detox, in a fog, complacent, wondering if you are ever going to poop again...Whatever it is, you are in a Fight!!!  A true battle that can be painful. 

I woke up today on day 23.  I had some craves and thought, damn I need to promise today but I'm tired of the fight.  (What a piss poor attitude I had)  Then, something snapped inside me.  Right after I posted roll, I decided to fight today, to endure, and to grin in the fight.  I'm going to enjoy my quit, love my quit and win.  We are optimists, we are winning every day, we are real men choosing to control our addictions!  The vets can lead me into battle any day of the week.  I say lets go now and not make haste but expose the truth and resist the enemy with resolve that we will never, never, ever, surrender to the seductions of the harlot called Tobacco.  

Why face this as difficult and hard?  Sure we all know that, but where is the optimism?  Embrace the Suck.  Enjoy the battle!  I look to Winston Churchill looking at Hitler and the real threat England faced from their enemy....(My grandparents lived in England during the war.  He told me how Winston Churchill could have had every citizen stand a post with rolling pins even if the Germans had machine guns.)   

I say stand up and treat tobacco as our own personal Hitler.  Here is a few quotes Winston said that apply to our fight against tobacco.

Today I am going with two.  "I like it when a man grins when he fights" and  "If you're going through hell, keep going."



"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"

"You have enemies?  Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life" 

"Continuous effort - Not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential"

"Difficulties Mastered are opportunities won"

"I am an optimist.  It doesn't seem too much use being anything else."

"It is no use saying, 'we are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary." 

"Kites rise against the wind, not with it."

"Never, never, never, give up!"

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."

"These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived"

DIDDO everything you said!!!

encouraging yes-

but why is this posted here and not in June?

Now I feel like a dumb ass. I thought Quit groups were for posting role. Then I go in there and see that there is more than that.

I will post things like this in June going forward.

[cbird65]

My friends on KTC.  We all know that it hurts to quit.  You may be in detox, in a fog, complacent, wondering if you are ever going to poop again...Whatever it is, you are in a Fight!!!  A true battle that can be painful. 

I woke up today on day 23.  I had some craves and thought, damn I need to promise today but I'm tired of the fight.  (What a piss poor attitude I had)  Then, something snapped inside me.  Right after I posted roll, I decided to fight today, to endure, and to grin in the fight.  I'm going to enjoy my quit, love my quit and win.  We are optimists, we are winning every day, we are real men choosing to control our addictions!  The vets can lead me into battle any day of the week.  I say lets go now and not make haste but expose the truth and resist the enemy with resolve that we will never, never, ever, surrender to the seductions of the harlot called Tobacco. 

Why face this as difficult and hard?  Sure we all know that, but where is the optimism?  Embrace the Suck.  Enjoy the battle!  I look to Winston Churchill looking at Hitler and the real threat England faced from their enemy....(My grandparents lived in England during the war.  He told me how Winston Churchill could have had every citizen stand a post with rolling pins even if the Germans had machine guns.)   

I say stand up and treat tobacco as our own personal Hitler.  Here is a few quotes Winston said that apply to our fight against tobacco.

Today I am going with two.  "I like it when a man grins when he fights" and  "If you're going through hell, keep going."



"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"

"You have enemies?  Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life" 

"Continuous effort - Not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential"

"Difficulties Mastered are opportunities won"

"I am an optimist.  It doesn't seem too much use being anything else."

"It is no use saying, 'we are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary." 

"Kites rise against the wind, not with it."

"Never, never, never, give up!"

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."

"These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived"

DIDDO everything you said!!!

encouraging yes-

but why is this posted here and not in June?

[Wt57]

My friends on KTC. We all know that it hurts to quit. You may be in detox, in a fog, complacent, wondering if you are ever going to poop again...Whatever it is, you are in a Fight!!! A true battle that can be painful.

I woke up today on day 23. I had some craves and thought, damn I need to promise today but I'm tired of the fight. (What a piss poor attitude I had) Then, something snapped inside me. Right after I posted roll, I decided to fight today, to endure, and to grin in the fight. I'm going to enjoy my quit, love my quit and win. We are optimists, we are winning every day, we are real men choosing to control our addictions! The vets can lead me into battle any day of the week. I say lets go now and not make haste but expose the truth and resist the enemy with resolve that we will never, never, ever, surrender to the seductions of the harlot called Tobacco.

Why face this as difficult and hard? Sure we all know that, but where is the optimism? Embrace the Suck. Enjoy the battle! I look to Winston Churchill looking at Hitler and the real threat England faced from their enemy....(My grandparents lived in England during the war. He told me how Winston Churchill could have had every citizen stand a post with rolling pins even if the Germans had machine guns.)

I say stand up and treat tobacco as our own personal Hitler. Here is a few quotes Winston said that apply to our fight against tobacco.

Today I am going with two. "I like it when a man grins when he fights" and "If you're going through hell, keep going."



"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life"

"Continuous effort - Not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential"

"Difficulties Mastered are opportunities won"

"I am an optimist. It doesn't seem too much use being anything else."

"It is no use saying, 'we are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary."

"Kites rise against the wind, not with it."

"Never, never, never, give up!"

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."

"These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived"

DIDDO everything you said!!!

[Mthomas3824]

My friends on KTC. We all know that it hurts to quit. You may be in detox, in a fog, complacent, wondering if you are ever going to poop again...Whatever it is, you are in a Fight!!! A true battle that can be painful.

I woke up today on day 23. I had some craves and thought, damn I need to promise today but I'm tired of the fight. (What a piss poor attitude I had) Then, something snapped inside me. Right after I posted roll, I decided to fight today, to endure, and to grin in the fight. I'm going to enjoy my quit, love my quit and win. We are optimists, we are winning every day, we are real men choosing to control our addictions! The vets can lead me into battle any day of the week. I say lets go now and not make haste but expose the truth and resist the enemy with resolve that we will never, never, ever, surrender to the seductions of the harlot called Tobacco.

Why face this as difficult and hard? Sure we all know that, but where is the optimism? Embrace the Suck. Enjoy the battle! I look to Winston Churchill looking at Hitler and the real threat England faced from their enemy....(My grandparents lived in England during the war. He told me how Winston Churchill could have had every citizen stand a post with rolling pins even if the Germans had machine guns.)

I say stand up and treat tobacco as our own personal Hitler. Here is a few quotes Winston said that apply to our fight against tobacco.

Today I am going with two. "I like it when a man grins when he fights" and "If you're going through hell, keep going."



"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life"

"Continuous effort - Not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential"

"Difficulties Mastered are opportunities won"

"I am an optimist. It doesn't seem too much use being anything else."

"It is no use saying, 'we are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary."

"Kites rise against the wind, not with it."

"Never, never, never, give up!"

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."

"These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived"

[Mthomas3824]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy.  All of the sudden, I got a crave.  Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can.  I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment.  We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength.  Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC. 

Day 17 - 20:  Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot.  I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me.  I think I might be bi-polar.  Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser.  No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll.  That is as automatic as brushing my teeth. 

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks!  I can do this one day at a time.  Proud to be a member of KTC. 

Day 22 - Sleep.  I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip.  I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep.  My sleep is more sound.  I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning.  Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

Great job fighting through. You are neither bi-polar nor depressed - you are simply fighting a battle that is the toughest thing we have probably ever done. But, you are winning one day at a time. Every day is a new battle, new challenges, and new emotions. Wake up every day with the attitude of I will post roll and I will fight my ass off today no matter what is thrown at me. I've read about everyone of your posts and there is no doubt you are one of the best quitters I know. Keep up the great work. Keep fighting hard. My goal also is to never miss a day of roll. I challenge you and whoever else wants to jump in on it - first one to miss roll flies in and buys the beer for a night. Deal?

You gotta deal. I see this as a win win.

[Suck-It]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy. All of the sudden, I got a crave. Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can. I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment. We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength. Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC.

Day 17 - 20: Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot. I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me. I think I might be bi-polar. Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser. No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll. That is as automatic as brushing my teeth.

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks! I can do this one day at a time. Proud to be a member of KTC.

Day 22 - Sleep. I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip. I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep. My sleep is more sound. I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning. Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

Great job fighting through. You are neither bi-polar nor depressed - you are simply fighting a battle that is the toughest thing we have probably ever done. But, you are winning one day at a time. Every day is a new battle, new challenges, and new emotions. Wake up every day with the attitude of I will post roll and I will fight my ass off today no matter what is thrown at me. I've read about everyone of your posts and there is no doubt you are one of the best quitters I know. Keep up the great work. Keep fighting hard. My goal also is to never miss a day of roll. I challenge you and whoever else wants to jump in on it - first one to miss roll flies in and buys the beer for a night. Deal?

[Mthomas3824]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy.  All of the sudden, I got a crave.  Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can.  I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment.  We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength.  Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC. 

Day 17 - 20:  Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot.  I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me.  I think I might be bi-polar.  Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser.  No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll.  That is as automatic as brushing my teeth. 

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks!  I can do this one day at a time.  Proud to be a member of KTC. 

Day 22 - Sleep.  I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip.  I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep.  My sleep is more sound.  I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning.  Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

Good stuff all the way around- big man bigger when he can admit he needs help- old Indian saying - alright, that was made up but it's fitting-

Here's something I found helpful in my twenties
BE ON YOUR GUARD

Thanks guys. I read what to expect in your 20's. That is so helpful. It rings so familiar in my head. I will post roll and repeat. Sounds like that simple act is the armor of protection.

Too easy not to commit to do it.

[cbird65]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy. All of the sudden, I got a crave. Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can. I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment. We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength. Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC.

Day 17 - 20: Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot. I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me. I think I might be bi-polar. Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser. No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll. That is as automatic as brushing my teeth.

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks! I can do this one day at a time. Proud to be a member of KTC.

Day 22 - Sleep. I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip. I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep. My sleep is more sound. I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning. Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

Good stuff all the way around- big man bigger when he can admit he needs help- old Indian saying - alright, that was made up but it's fitting-

Here's something I found helpful in my twenties
BE ON YOUR GUARD

[Grizzly25]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy. All of the sudden, I got a crave. Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can. I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment. We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength. Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC.

Day 17 - 20: Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot. I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me. I think I might be bi-polar. Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser. No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll. That is as automatic as brushing my teeth.

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks! I can do this one day at a time. Proud to be a member of KTC.

Day 22 - Sleep. I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip. I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep. My sleep is more sound. I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning. Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

I have had those thoughts myself of no self-worth or if I have somehow developed adult onset A.D.D. or possibly a little bit of bi-polar disorder!!!!

Rest assured you are curing yourself of nicotene addiction!!!

It seems so strange at first and if it werent for this site I would probably think I was seriously having many issues!!!

Stay strong and focused on your quit never slip into cruise control, mainly to not get complacent. You have a great quit going and have inspired many good quiters so please keep sharing all your experiences trials and tribualtions they will continue to help others!!!

[Mthomas3824]

Day 16 - Having a really good day, things were easy. All of the sudden, I got a crave. Hit me fast, started to think that it was no big deal to go get a can. I was at work, quickly got on chat and confessed that I was in a weak moment. We chatted for a bit, long enough for the crave to lose its strength. Realized that I would have caved many times if I didn't find KTC.

Day 17 - 20: Nothing of significance, just on auto-pilot. I do notice that thoughts of poor self worth and hopelessness hit me. I think I might be bi-polar. Some day's I feel like I can conquer the world and other days I feel like a total loser. No matter how I feel, I want to have a 100% record of posting roll. That is as automatic as brushing my teeth.

Day 21 - Proud to be clean for 3 straight weeks! I can do this one day at a time. Proud to be a member of KTC.

Day 22 - Sleep. I recognize that I no longer try to stay up later than everyone in the house to get that last dip. I enjoy when I get tired and fall asleep. My sleep is more sound. I do have some depression because I don't want to get up in the morning. Thank the Lord that I have a job so I get out of bed and just get going.

[Mthomas3824]

Okay, I started writing down Vizelite so I would remember to tell my dentist...and then read, "Make your erections harder". All the other benefits are good but I pride myself on being able to sport a good bone. I am really excited about that!!!

Harder boners. Gentlemen, this should get every man to quit the dip.

New meaning to "Quit Chub!"

[Seth]

You can get oral cancer anytime regardless of if you ever used or not. Cancer sucks. Best bet is to get screened at the dentist. Although I admit it's been about 9-10 months since my last dental visit  B) , but she screened me then and things looked OK.

Another thing to worry about is throat and stomach cancer. And since I lost both my Dad and  grandmother(his mom) to abdominal type cancers, I'm probably screwed.

I'm right there with you, Kubrick. I come from a long line of genetically disadvantaged people who have shown the propensity to smoke, dip, and drink themselves to oblivion on one side, or get done in by a variety of cancers and cardiac maladies on the other. I know the idea that I wouldn't grow to an old age played into my fatalistic stupidity to start dipping when I was 20. "Fuck it" -- that was the idea, and the military culture that I dove into also supported smoking/dipping/drinking/cussing. What a wonderful turn of events.

No matter. I'm taking my fucking life back. Even if I wind up with throat, stomach, and brain cancer down the road while suffering from congestive heart failure, I'm going to muster what I have left of a face together to grin and tell the tobacco companies that I own this. This shit is mine. No more. I might even wheel my ass into a convenience store and give the Indian clerk a slap on the ass and a "GOOD HUSTLE, HAJII!".

Good stuff!!!!

I have had that thought so many times of just walking into the store where I used to buy my grizzly and just beat the hell outta the clerk .......

But then I remember they are just doing their job and it was my choice to buy it and chew it.......soooooo the clerk is safe.

NOW....

This does NOT take the tobacco companies off my hit list ..........

Anyway we are all better off and we choose to take our lives back and there is no turning back now!!!!

Let me start off by saying 'I'm no doctor.'

However, I was very freaked out when I quit, and thought it would be just my luck to get cancer after I had quit. That is still a very real possibility. I read somewhere that it takes 15 years of quit before you get back to the same chance as a non user for developing it. But don't quote me on this.

What I can tell you is that quitting is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself. Typically quitting is going to lower your blood pressure, reduce your chance of heart disease, and make your erections harder (something to do with the increased blood flow by not having nicotine in your syetem.)

Don't worry about your past, you can't control it. Leave that to God. What you can control are your actions today. Once you're quit for about 30 days, go into the dentist and have him give you a Vizilite screening. It should run you about $50 bucks, but will really help ease your mind. I have checkups every 6 months, and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

[Grizzly25]

You can get oral cancer anytime regardless of if you ever used or not. Cancer sucks. Best bet is to get screened at the dentist. Although I admit it's been about 9-10 months since my last dental visit  B) , but she screened me then and things looked OK.

Another thing to worry about is throat and stomach cancer. And since I lost both my Dad and  grandmother(his mom) to abdominal type cancers, I'm probably screwed.

I'm right there with you, Kubrick. I come from a long line of genetically disadvantaged people who have shown the propensity to smoke, dip, and drink themselves to oblivion on one side, or get done in by a variety of cancers and cardiac maladies on the other. I know the idea that I wouldn't grow to an old age played into my fatalistic stupidity to start dipping when I was 20. "Fuck it" -- that was the idea, and the military culture that I dove into also supported smoking/dipping/drinking/cussing. What a wonderful turn of events.

No matter. I'm taking my fucking life back. Even if I wind up with throat, stomach, and brain cancer down the road while suffering from congestive heart failure, I'm going to muster what I have left of a face together to grin and tell the tobacco companies that I own this. This shit is mine. No more. I might even wheel my ass into a convenience store and give the Indian clerk a slap on the ass and a "GOOD HUSTLE, HAJII!".

Good stuff!!!!

I have had that thought so many times of just walking into the store where I used to buy my grizzly and just beat the hell outta the clerk .......

But then I remember they are just doing their job and it was my choice to buy it and chew it.......soooooo the clerk is safe.

NOW....

This does NOT take the tobacco companies off my hit list ..........

Anyway we are all better off and we choose to take our lives back and there is no turning back now!!!!

[rgross298]

You can get oral cancer anytime regardless of if you ever used or not. Cancer sucks. Best bet is to get screened at the dentist. Although I admit it's been about 9-10 months since my last dental visit B) , but she screened me then and things looked OK.

Another thing to worry about is throat and stomach cancer. And since I lost both my Dad and grandmother(his mom) to abdominal type cancers, I'm probably screwed.

I'm right there with you, Kubrick. I come from a long line of genetically disadvantaged people who have shown the propensity to smoke, dip, and drink themselves to oblivion on one side, or get done in by a variety of cancers and cardiac maladies on the other. I know the idea that I wouldn't grow to an old age played into my fatalistic stupidity to start dipping when I was 20. "Fuck it" -- that was the idea, and the military culture that I dove into also supported smoking/dipping/drinking/cussing. What a wonderful turn of events.

No matter. I'm taking my fucking life back. Even if I wind up with throat, stomach, and brain cancer down the road while suffering from congestive heart failure, I'm going to muster what I have left of a face together to grin and tell the tobacco companies that I own this. This shit is mine. No more. I might even wheel my ass into a convenience store and give the Indian clerk a slap on the ass and a "GOOD HUSTLE, HAJII!".