Nicotine, I Hate You

[sixercountry]

Drama is not a new concept to KTC. It comes and it goes. Unfortunately, people continue to fan the fire. On the record there have been 3-4 four people voicing their dissenting opinion regarding "the app" (cant say the name). I was a member of the four that thought WE needed balance between the two, not total abolition of one or the other.
I personally made a mistake that I can admit. In October, someone asked a question about a hacker and I ASSUMED the negative. I responded to it in that fashion and I was wrong. Even if I privately believe it, I shouldn't publicly state it because I too can be wrong.
I dont usually speak for people. But I will in this situation. We are all parts of different HOF groups. These groups have young "know it alls" and "old dinosaurs". We are parts of these groups because we all go through the same emotional and physical issues around the same time period as a result of our addiction. We can relate to each other, share experiences, and methods of quitting. Make no mistake, We are all however MEMBERS of the same KTC community. Not one SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on here wishes anyone to fail. I dont care about the differences. Or the attacks. Or the speech in private messages on the boards. You may feel certain members dislike you, but I am 100 % percent certain that they hate nicotine more than you. So lets not repeat my mistakes continuously. Let's not assume every post regarding activity or KTC is a shot below the belt at "the app". Let's stop assuming that someone's harsh public words mean they want your to cave. Let's pull up our big boy pants and move on. Day 203. I quit with all of you today.

[Ron_Cross]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Love it.

add this to your Labor Day reading list

Once again 6er knocks it into the left field bleachers.

Awesome Stuff. Pure sweet KTC kook-aid.

[RAZD611]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Love it.

add this to your Labor Day reading list

Once again 6er knocks it into the left field bleachers.

[cbird65]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Love it.

add this to your Labor Day reading list

[Scowick65]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Love it.

[Spence249]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

[Raider]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

I agree Steak. These words are golden

[Steakbomb18]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.

[RAZD611]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

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[sixercountry]

To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.

[FMBM707]

This post has no intentions of glorifying the tobacco plant itself. It does however explain the amazing potential benefits of the plant while spreading our hatred for big tobacco and its immoral choke-hold on its usage. Tobacco is one of the most pliable species on earth. It is considered the crown jewel of artificial engineering. Tobacco plants can be "factories for therapeutic proteins and other useful substances". Scientists have consistently utilized tobacco plants as ways to produce helpful by-products for human and non-human usage. Scientists are able to insert different types of genes into tobacco plants. Tobacco plants then conform the proteins of these genes and duplicate this conformation quicker than any other plant on the planet. The final product is then extracted from the tobacco plant after it is mutated. Scientists hope to one day use this process in potential cures for cancer and other deadly diseases.
This topic is being written about because tobacco is once again in the news. Just in case you live under a rock, two health professionals that have been infected with the Ebola virus have been transported to a American hospital. These two patients have been administered an experimental drug called Zmapp. This drug has been in a trial phase with primates with sizable "success". The drug is manufactured through the above mentioned process by Reynolds Tobacco, one of the first major tobacco companies in the United States. These tobacco companies are aware of the potential "doctoring" of the plant. It has been widely known that laboratories have been able to remove nicotine from the roots of the plant (Nicotine is derived from the root and spreads throughout the leaves of the plant.) and effectively manufacture tobacco products that are nicotine free but surprisingly not available to the public. In closing, it is pretty fucked up that the plant that we used for years and decades, can potentially kill one of the worst viruses on the face of the planet. Either that, or Big Tobacco is once again lying to the public about the effects of this new "wonder drug". Stay quit.

Interesting stuff Sixer.

[sixercountry]

This post has no intentions of glorifying the tobacco plant itself. It does however explain the amazing potential benefits of the plant while spreading our hatred for big tobacco and its immoral choke-hold on its usage. Tobacco is one of the most pliable species on earth. It is considered the crown jewel of artificial engineering. Tobacco plants can be "factories for therapeutic proteins and other useful substances". Scientists have consistently utilized tobacco plants as ways to produce helpful by-products for human and non-human usage. Scientists are able to insert different types of genes into tobacco plants. Tobacco plants then conform the proteins of these genes and duplicate this conformation quicker than any other plant on the planet. The final product is then extracted from the tobacco plant after it is mutated. Scientists hope to one day use this process in potential cures for cancer and other deadly diseases.
This topic is being written about because tobacco is once again in the news. Just in case you live under a rock, two health professionals that have been infected with the Ebola virus have been transported to a American hospital. These two patients have been administered an experimental drug called Zmapp. This drug has been in a trial phase with primates with sizable "success". The drug is manufactured through the above mentioned process by Reynolds Tobacco, one of the first major tobacco companies in the United States. These tobacco companies are aware of the potential "doctoring" of the plant. It has been widely known that laboratories have been able to remove nicotine from the roots of the plant (Nicotine is derived from the root and spreads throughout the leaves of the plant.) and effectively manufacture tobacco products that are nicotine free but surprisingly not available to the public. In closing, it is pretty fucked up that the plant that we used for years and decades, can potentially kill one of the worst viruses on the face of the planet. Either that, or Big Tobacco is once again lying to the public about the effects of this new "wonder drug". Stay quit.

[Southpaw32]

I have the same problems on the rigs I work on. I used to smoke a pack of reds and chew a can a day and when I get "smoked out" by these oilfield guys, I find I get some withdrawal headaches, fog, and a pretty decent sized craving for a smoke (this one becomes less frequent even at day 36).

I also sometimes focus so much on dip that I forget I was a smoker too. But I know that if I cave, I'm going right back to a pack and can a day. And for me that is scary enough to keep my guard up 24/7.

[wastepanel]

This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...

I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out

If you're in a smoked filled area for an extended period then you're getting nic and you're having withdrawals, IMHO.

Trust me man...

The same thing happens to me when I hang out with the in-laws or with my friends. I get random white knuckle moments. They aren't much, but they do exist.

It passes man. You can do this.