Nicotine, I Hate You

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...

I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out

If you're in a smoked filled area for an extended period then you're getting nic and you're having withdrawals, IMHO.

[sixercountry]

This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...

I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out

[Thumblewort]

I'm so grateful for you friendship, brotherhood and the example you set for quitters. So frickin proud to be part of your quitwork!

Quitwork is an awesome word! Proud to be here with you Sixer, you are a hell of a quitter!

[bronc]

I'm so grateful for you friendship, brotherhood and the example you set for quitters. So frickin proud to be part of your quitwork!

[sixercountry]

I feel like being accountable for our actions and the labeling of a disease are very different. Diseases can obviously be self-inflicted and victimless or can affect those innocent or without fault. I doubt either is deserved. I also doubt people even think they suffer from a disease until they are within the quitting stage of addiction. Many "people smoking while on oxygen" probably always thought it wouldnt happen to them and woke up one day with not only a big fuckin surprise, but an addiction that spiraled out of control and could not be stopped under their own power and will. Addiction to drugs and chemicals is much different than that of food or habitual actions such as banging hookers or jerking off. I doubt I will get the sweats, not be able to take a shit/shit too much, not being able to sleep, not be able to concentrate while I stare at a computer screen in a fog, not be able to digest a meal, etc if I was a serial fapper that got his hands cut off after stealing a pack of gum in Libya. Anyway, if it were simply a choice to not dip, then I wouldnt need KTC or the great friends like you guys to help me out. Without that, I highly doubt I would be quit today and would be labeled as some excuse maker with a lack of accountability.

[sixercountry]

The month of July is coming to a close. I have many close quitters sprinkled throughout July and the months to follow. I can't help but remember when our month of June was in the above "pre" hof" entries. We were among the first groups that were viewed. Veterans and newcomers alike post support roll in many of the pre hof groups. Members of current pre hof groups: what are you going to do when your group name is on the bottom? What are you going to do when your group is placed among the hundred other groups on the site? What are you going to do when YOU are the ones that are Relied upon to just simply support the new groups?.....

It is easy to get complacent. To not post roll anymore. To not lend your support to others. To forget about what got you here. Stay as vigilant as ever. Stay supportive without expecting anything in return. You are now the role models of KTC. Let's get ready for 200 and beyond.

[Winter Green]

My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.

Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.

Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!

Do whatever you think will help people stay quit dude. Thanks...

Six, you are the MAN, Man. Im happy to reignite the coin trend. I could tell from the beginning that you where going to play an important role here at KTC. Thanks for the recognition too brother, you strengthened my quit with this post. Keep on keepin on my friend.

Winter Green~~237

[sixercountry]

My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.

Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.

Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!

Do whatever you think will help people stay quit dude. Thanks...

[Smeds]

My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.

Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.

Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!

[capasso22]

My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.

Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.

[sixercountry]

My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.

[THansen2413]

Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....

Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.

good post, sixer, thank you.

Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work

Good stuff, Six. As usual.

Spot on friend. Keep spreading the "word".

[slinger]

Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....

Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.

good post, sixer, thank you.

Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work

Good stuff, Six. As usual.

[30yraddict]

Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....

Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.

good post, sixer, thank you.

Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work

[sixercountry]

Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....

Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.