The first day...

[Doc2quit4good]

Day 45

Just feeling extreme gratitude to KTC and the system set in place.  Without it, I'd be in deep sh*t.

Quit equals freedom.

Hey Sarge, I was thinking to myself that 47 days wasn't that many. Then I thought 1 day is the best thing you can hope for. So I am another day quit today!

[Sgt12]

Day 45

Just feeling extreme gratitude to KTC and the system set in place. Without it, I'd be in deep sh*t.

Quit equals freedom.

[Phil16]

'help'. Well today is my first day, I have visited this site many times in the past and its finally time to quit. I have been the quitter of quitting many times and I HAVE to get this monkey off my back.

I started at 18 when I was in the Marines, now I've just hit 40. The worst thing is that I have associated the dip with stress. The higher the stress the more dip I have.

I don't know how this whole site works so if anyone can point me in the right direction let me know.

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Check your inbox (1).

Go to the welcome center. Whatever you do, don't put any nicotine in your body.

[troop0119]

'help'. Well today is my first day, I have visited this site many times in the past and its finally time to quit. I have been the quitter of quitting many times and I HAVE to get this monkey off my back.

I started at 18 when I was in the Marines, now I've just hit 40. The worst thing is that I have associated the dip with stress. The higher the stress the more dip I have.

I don't know how this whole site works so if anyone can point me in the right direction let me know.

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[Funktronic42]

I threw in a dip today in my sleep.  It was my first dip dream that I have had.  Not a good feeling waking up and believing that I caved.  I was not a happy guy when I woke up.

At least in the dream, I hated myself for it.  It tasted like garbage.  I threw it out immediately.  In my dream, I knew how bad I had messed up.

Interesting, to say the least.  The evil nic is still trying to hang around but I beat its ass day in and day out for the past 36 days now.

Quit on, brothers.

Use the way you felt in your dream after you dream caved as motivation to win the fight in your waking world. I have had several dip dreams and feel like garbage at the thought of caving, but it is a great tool against complacency. Sarge, you have been quit for 36 days in a row; there is no turning back now, but remember your dip dreams when you start to feel complacent in your quit.

That sucks man. That's terrible way to start a day. But now you get to experience the shame anger of caving without actually caving. B-lomatt seems to be hitting it on the head I think. You have been given the gift of knowing failure without failing. you are still with us and we with you. Quit on.

[B-loMatt]

I threw in a dip today in my sleep. It was my first dip dream that I have had. Not a good feeling waking up and believing that I caved. I was not a happy guy when I woke up.

At least in the dream, I hated myself for it. It tasted like garbage. I threw it out immediately. In my dream, I knew how bad I had messed up.

Interesting, to say the least. The evil nic is still trying to hang around but I beat its ass day in and day out for the past 36 days now.

Quit on, brothers.

Use the way you felt in your dream after you dream caved as motivation to win the fight in your waking world. I have had several dip dreams and feel like garbage at the thought of caving, but it is a great tool against complacency. Sarge, you have been quit for 36 days in a row; there is no turning back now, but remember your dip dreams when you start to feel complacent in your quit.

[Sgt12]

I threw in a dip today in my sleep. It was my first dip dream that I have had. Not a good feeling waking up and believing that I caved. I was not a happy guy when I woke up.

At least in the dream, I hated myself for it. It tasted like garbage. I threw it out immediately. In my dream, I knew how bad I had messed up.

Interesting, to say the least. The evil nic is still trying to hang around but I beat its ass day in and day out for the past 36 days now.

Quit on, brothers.

[Mike from AB]

So... What's up with the dreams?

Here I am, 31 days... I am sleeping OK. Still not the best. Before, I never really remembered my dreams. Once in a while I would wake up and recall the vagueness of a dream. Now? I'm dreaming all of the time. They are not necessarily dip dreams. I think I dream about my dad some.

Just curious where this new clarity with dreams has come from. Anyone know?

I don't know but I experienced that too. I'd like to think it was from more restful sleeps after I quit, but I'm back, after my first  hopefully only, dip dream, to not remembering dreams.

[Sgt12]

Length of use... 12-13 years.
Brand... Copenhagen, Skoal (Straight and Apple).
Usage... A can a day, roughly.
Hid from... Everyone. My wife caught me numerous times so I could no longer hide it from her.

Why I'm quit:

Believe it or not, it's not really about ME right now. I lost my dad this year. It's been hard as hell on me. Most days, I don't feel like myself. I am not taking the void of him being gone well at all. Most days, my heart feels broken. I don't like myself right now. I don't know why. I really don't. Depression? No... I'm just in a funk. It's been less than seven months and it's going to take time. My dad was my best friend. IS my best friend. I've read articles about grief when men lose their dad's and it's supposed to hurt. It's supposed to mess with you. I know I am normal in that respect but it's hard. Quitting this pales in comparison to the sadness I deal with on some days...

It is getting better. It is. Time does heal. That is what I need to focus on.

People say that you have to quit for yourself first. If I were single and didn't have kids, I'd probably still be dipping. That's just me being honest. But maybe not.

But when I really think about it... Why am I quit? Answer the damn question. I do care about myself. I care about being a good dad. I want to set a great example for my three boys. I want my wife to not have to worry about my health. She has been amazing through it all.

I quit for them. I quit for my dad because fuck Big Tobacco. I quit for me too I guess, but I have stronger reasons than just me.

Damn proud to be quit for 31 days. I quit with you all today.

[Sgt12]

So... What's up with the dreams?

Here I am, 31 days... I am sleeping OK. Still not the best. Before, I never really remembered my dreams. Once in a while I would wake up and recall the vagueness of a dream. Now? I'm dreaming all of the time. They are not necessarily dip dreams. I think I dream about my dad some.

Just curious where this new clarity with dreams has come from. Anyone know?

[Sgt12]

Love all ya'all but my name is not Scott.  It's Rob.

'archer'

Got it Joe...it will never happen again, I swear Tom. You know what I mean Mike?

Just call me QLF.

'oh yeah'

[Pinched]

Love all ya'all but my name is not Scott. It's Rob.

'archer'

Got it Joe...it will never happen again, I swear Tom. You know what I mean Mike?

[Sgt12]

Love all ya'all but my name is not Scott. It's Rob.

'archer'

[Funktronic42]

I'm a big dude...  An athlete.  Always have been.  When I started my quit, I was 237 pounds. 

I'm 6'5".

Weighed myself this evening and am now 251.  That is terrible.  I know weight gain is common during a quit, but it's time to start exercising.  I need to get back down to the 230s. 

But I know, I know...  14 pounds is nothing compared to my quit.  I wouldn't change anything.  It's just time to focus on my improving health after quitting.  I felt in the beginning, it would be too much to watch my weight and quit at the same time, but I think now is a good time to incorporate some exercise.

Scott,
I like you and many others have gained weight since my quit. There are several contributing factors that my dietitian sister pointed out to me yesterday.

1 - water weight, if you used to spit this is worse because your body is still producing saliva at an abnormal rate and it has to go somewhere; it you were a "stomacher" not going to say if you swallowed due to other implications) you still have that saliva cycling through your body
2 - most of our replacements are not "healthy" as most are full of salt, sugar or high fructose corn syrup
3 - your metabolism would spike when you would dip as a natural body reaction to nicotine and tobacco

My advice is start slow get back to working out, when you have those angry days (like I did yesterday) take it out on iron or a heavy bag and kick the shit out of it.

As far as diet, I say fuck it eat what you want until your cravings start to fade; then worry about a lifestyle change.

As with most I am no Doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express lastnight.

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They got an indoor pool in the tri-cities? Just take the kids for a swim. You will be exorcising just by taking them around in circles in the water. Then slowly start to lap swim on your own. My wife and I started doing that together and I have actually been losing weight. Swimming is crazy good for you. works every muscle you have.

I've always been around 240 - 250 depending on my activity level over the course of a few weeks. I have gone from 260 down to 250 since I quit. That's right when my wife and I started swimming.

[Pinched]

I'm a big dude... An athlete. Always have been. When I started my quit, I was 237 pounds.

I'm 6'5".

Weighed myself this evening and am now 251. That is terrible. I know weight gain is common during a quit, but it's time to start exercising. I need to get back down to the 230s.

But I know, I know... 14 pounds is nothing compared to my quit. I wouldn't change anything. It's just time to focus on my improving health after quitting. I felt in the beginning, it would be too much to watch my weight and quit at the same time, but I think now is a good time to incorporate some exercise.

Scott,
I like you and many others have gained weight since my quit. There are several contributing factors that my dietitian sister pointed out to me yesterday.

1 - water weight, if you used to spit this is worse because your body is still producing saliva at an abnormal rate and it has to go somewhere; it you were a "stomacher" not going to say if you swallowed due to other implications) you still have that saliva cycling through your body
2 - most of our replacements are not "healthy" as most are full of salt, sugar or high fructose corn syrup
3 - your metabolism would spike when you would dip as a natural body reaction to nicotine and tobacco

My advice is start slow get back to working out, when you have those angry days (like I did yesterday) take it out on iron or a heavy bag and kick the shit out of it.

As far as diet, I say fuck it eat what you want until your cravings start to fade; then worry about a lifestyle change.

As with most I am no Doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express lastnight.

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