Quit Monday June 25, 2012

[Wt57]

Jag, you are an inspriation!  Keep it up!!

My brother in quit, day in and day out!

That was a great way to keep things in perspective brother, Quit on Quiter!

One day we will break even! My journey is very similar to yours but I had a pause from 1979-1981 with 6 years use before that. I applaud your quit! 'clap'

[Grizzly25]

Jag, you are an inspriation!  Keep it up!!

My brother in quit, day in and day out!

That was a great way to keep things in perspective brother, Quit on Quiter!

[eric71]

Jag, you are an inspriation! Keep it up!!

My brother in quit, day in and day out!

[Mcbeevee]

Jag, you are an inspriation! Keep it up!!

[jaginvest]

Diary Of A Madman
Day 301

So it's been a while since I have been vocal around the site. I pretty much stay within my group (October 12). Having made it to day 300 yesterday, I have a renewed vigor for sustaining my quit. My quit has not been in jeopardy, but I haven't nurtured it the way I should.

This morning, a Brother Madman challenged our group to figure out how much money you could have saved if you never started dipping. I found this to be fascinating...he even went so far as to inquire what you would do with the money if you would have saved it. I have to admit, it stirred my curiosity. So, here is my attempt at figuring it out.

The math is not entirely correct, but I had to have a formula...so, I remember paying about $1.50 per tin (per day) when I started. That was in 1981. So my calculation is based on a step increase of $0.50 every 5 years (1825 days). Probably no where close to accurate, but as deep as I am willing to go.... I dipped for 31 years, or 5 step increases. The last 12-15 years were at 1 1/2 tins per day, and when I quit I was paying $4.35 per tin. I will do the last year based on this....however, the math is still very conservative. What a shame.....

(1981-1986) 1825 x 1.50=2,737.50
(1987-1991) 1825 x 2.00=3,650.00
(1992-1996) 1825 x 2.50=4,562.50
(1997-2001) 1825 x 3.00=8,212.50 (1 1/2 tins per day or 4.50 per day)
(2002-2206) 1825 x 3.50=9,581.25 (1 1/2 tins per day or 5.25 per day)
(2007-2011) 1825 x 4.00=10,950.00 (1 1/2 tins per day or 6.00 per day)
(20012) 365 x 4.35=2,381.50 (1 1/2 tins per day or 6.50 per day)

Grand Total: $42, 075.25

What would I do with the money if I hadn't spit it away? Holy shit, I don't know. What I do know is I have saved $1,956.50 in the last 301 days. No where close to breaking even, but one day.......I will.

Whatever you do, do it like a Fucking MADMAN.....

[jaginvest]

Diary of a Madman
Day 173

So the week has passed, alot has happened this week. The Madmen and Madwomen have pulled through again. A brother caved, but seems to be back on the right path. Two more quitters dropped from the spreadsheet. Looks like 2 more are gonna drop below the line and 1 more will be removed in the coming week.

If this week plays out like I think it will, we will be down to the bones of the group. Only 21 Badasses will remain. For the most part, daily posters. I hope the other 3 get their shit together and do not have to learn the hard way that stepping away will KILL their quit. Stepping away is not an option. But those that are in jeapordy haven't participated fully. No one has their numbers, they haven't asked for any of ours that I am aware of. Dangerous behavior.....

The coming week, I would like to see everyone post. If you can't get to the site, text one of us. We will get you on roll. This week will be full of celebration and parties and other distractions. PUT YOUR QUIT FIRST. Give your word for the day, we all know it works. When your quit starts taking the backseat, it gets a little weaker with each passing day. Eventually, you get careless. When you no longer care for your quit, you lose......QLAFM

[eric71]

Diary of a MADMAN!
Day 168

MAD MAN does not desribe what I am feeling right now!

I had a conversation with my wife while Christmas shopping today. We were walking through the mall, and I look in a store just as a dude pulls a spitter out of his jacket pocket and let's a stream go. Big fucking fatty in his lip. I started laughing.

The wife says, "What's so funny?" I told her what I had just witnessed, and said, "It's just funny that I used to be that dude. I didn't care where I was at. I didn't care about the image that I portrayed. I didn't care what it did to you and the kids. Now, 168 days later, I just think it's funny that everyone in my support group (KTC) were that dude. But we found a way out. A better way to live." I promised her again today that I would not go back. I haven't told her in a few weeks, so I was happy that it all had taken place...

We get home, and as I am logging on to KTC to update the spread I get a text from Sir Derek. HOLY FUCK I was not ready for what was about to happen. KStamp?????
No fucking way...I am crushed. I am pissed. I am hurt. My phone never rang.....

If you are new to the site, this is the shit you need to see. All of the tools that we talk about on this site were totally ignored this weekend by one of the baddest quitters I fucking know. Use this site. Honor these principles. Listen the fucking people that have walked this path ahead of you.

Don't stop reading here. Scroll through every one of our posts. Hell, I specifically addressed the issue on September 15. When you are done with my intro, go to the next one. And the next, and the next......QLAFM

To say Kstamp caught us by surprise is the understatement of the year. Guy had a badass quit going on, day in, day out, 100% record of posting roll. No one in our group saw this coming. No one in our group got a call that night either.

THE TOOLS ARE AT OUR DISPOSAL, WE NEED TO TRAIN AND RE-TRAIN OURSELVES ON HOW TO MOST EFFECTIVELY USE THEM. IT IS TOO DAMN BAD WE HAVE TO BE REMINDED OF THIS IN THIS MANNER.

Losing a quit brother sucks, losing one after no effort was given to abstain cuts deep, losing one as a result of negligence in their quit is unacceptable and bleeds the trust from the relationship.

You've got a lot of fences to mend Kstamp. Best get your tools out and start working OT

QLAFM

[jaginvest]

Diary of a MADMAN!
Day 168

MAD MAN does not desribe what I am feeling right now!

I had a conversation with my wife while Christmas shopping today. We were walking through the mall, and I look in a store just as a dude pulls a spitter out of his jacket pocket and let's a stream go. Big fucking fatty in his lip. I started laughing.

The wife says, "What's so funny?" I told her what I had just witnessed, and said, "It's just funny that I used to be that dude. I didn't care where I was at. I didn't care about the image that I portrayed. I didn't care what it did to you and the kids. Now, 168 days later, I just think it's funny that everyone in my support group (KTC) were that dude. But we found a way out. A better way to live." I promised her again today that I would not go back. I haven't told her in a few weeks, so I was happy that it all had taken place...

We get home, and as I am logging on to KTC to update the spread I get a text from Sir Derek. HOLY FUCK I was not ready for what was about to happen. KStamp?????
No fucking way...I am crushed. I am pissed. I am hurt. My phone never rang.....

If you are new to the site, this is the shit you need to see. All of the tools that we talk about on this site were totally ignored this weekend by one of the baddest quitters I fucking know. Use this site. Honor these principles. Listen the fucking people that have walked this path ahead of you.

Don't stop reading here. Scroll through every one of our posts. Hell, I specifically addressed the issue on September 15. When you are done with my intro, go to the next one. And the next, and the next......QLAFM

[Greg5280]

It is amazing all the things that can actually be accomplished without nicotine.

Freedom is an amazing thing. Enjoy it.

STAY QUIT
Greg

[eric71]

Proud to be quit with you today and always keep moving forward!!!

Happy for you and your family Jag. Walking this road with you since day 1 has been like having a brother. Proud as always to be quit with you.

[Grizzly25]

Proud to be quit with you today and always keep moving forward!!!

[jaginvest]

Diary of A Madman
Day 163

Big day today. Lieutenant Assesment center for promotion for me, MEPS for my 17 year old son joining the military. It's funny how all the stars align on days like this. Full circle. I am as proud as a father can be, and ready for the next step in my career.

I am Happy to be facing today's challenges without a mouth full of poison. Happy that my Brother Eric is back on the scene. Happy to be married and to be a father. Happy to be nicotine free...Thank you Brothers (and Sisters).

QLAFM

[jaginvest]

Diary of a Madman
Day 161

So it has been a while since I said "Thank You" to the vets that invested in my quit 161 days ago. I sent out text messages yesterday to the ones in my phone. You truly made a difference. If you didn't get a text, I would like to tell you now. THANK YOU! To everyone else that has shown support throughout my quit, a genuine "Thank You".

To the Madmen of October '12, a continuous and forever "THANK YOU". We have travelled a dark and rocky road, together. Yea, we have lost several during the journey, but the core of the group is still together. I hope we always are. We know that we can weather any rage, rant and general bullshit that comes our way.

Finally, to everyone on KTC that your posts and threads I have read, "Thank You". All of it has formed the parameters of my quit. Some I chose to emmulate, and some I have chosen to make sure I NEVER act like you. Either way, you had an impact on my quit, therefore, an impact on my life. I am forever greatful.....

Today, and always, QLAFM.....

[Coach Steve]

Diary of a Madman
Day159

This morning, as I went to post roll, I said to myself, "One Hundred and Fifty Nine days! Holy shit, that's a long time." Immediately, another thought popped into my head. "Thirty One FUCKING YEARS you used! One hundred and fifty nine days ain't shit."

Now, before you reply, I am extremely proud of my 159 days. I am not down on myself about the number of days I have or do not have. It was just a reality check. So I calculated out the number of days there are in 31 years. No, it's not exactly 31 years today, but I know I started when I was 11 years old, and it was football season. I know because I got my first chew from the coach. So 31 is close enough. Anyway, 31 years equals 11, 315 days, not including leap years.

There has been alot of banter on KTC this past couple of weeks about people leaving the site, for whatever reason. The main two, I have shown my support. The Madmen are losing Post-HOF'ers weekly. When I posted roll, I wanted to make a statement about my commitment to my quit. I cannot, nor will not, become complacent with my quit. I cannot relax, I cannot loose focus, and I need the accountability my quit requires. When my days quit are equal to the 11,315 days that I CHOSE to use, then I will re-evaluate whether or not I can go it alone. Until then, I will be here.

Although it is very easy to fall victim to some of the fucksticks, dickweeds and idiots that are as abundant as the true warriors on this site, you cannot let them rule your quit. Your quit is yours, and yours alone. I know some people like to claim that they are merely showing "tough love", but the fact of the matter is when it goes too far, it is more harmful than helpful. I have seen quitters walk away because of inmature and idiotic statements by other members.

I guess the point of this entry is, don't let a fucking idiot keep you from posting roll. We know the way of the wise...post roll, keep your fucking word, repeat tomorrow. If you do nothing else on the site, DO THIS! Choose your battles, the only one that is lasting is the battle with our addiction. Don't let stupid fucks get in your way, if they have it all figured out, well then they are the ones that no longer need the site. We still do.....

If you feel compelled to respond to this post to contradict my view or "show me" where or why I am wrong, don't. I don't really give a fuck what you have to say about it...to my brothers that have considered walking away over meaningless childish comments of others, well, you are bigger than that. Stick with what we know works, ignore the ignorant. QLAFM

Quit Like A Fother Mucker....with extra Vigor.

[jaginvest]

Diary of a Madman
Day159

This morning, as I went to post roll, I said to myself, "One Hundred and Fifty Nine days! Holy shit, that's a long time." Immediately, another thought popped into my head. "Thirty One FUCKING YEARS you used! One hundred and fifty nine days ain't shit."

Now, before you reply, I am extremely proud of my 159 days. I am not down on myself about the number of days I have or do not have. It was just a reality check. So I calculated out the number of days there are in 31 years. No, it's not exactly 31 years today, but I know I started when I was 11 years old, and it was football season. I know because I got my first chew from the coach. So 31 is close enough. Anyway, 31 years equals 11, 315 days, not including leap years.

There has been alot of banter on KTC this past couple of weeks about people leaving the site, for whatever reason. The main two, I have shown my support. The Madmen are losing Post-HOF'ers weekly. When I posted roll, I wanted to make a statement about my commitment to my quit. I cannot, nor will not, become complacent with my quit. I cannot relax, I cannot loose focus, and I need the accountability my quit requires. When my days quit are equal to the 11,315 days that I CHOSE to use, then I will re-evaluate whether or not I can go it alone. Until then, I will be here.

Although it is very easy to fall victim to some of the fucksticks, dickweeds and idiots that are as abundant as the true warriors on this site, you cannot let them rule your quit. Your quit is yours, and yours alone. I know some people like to claim that they are merely showing "tough love", but the fact of the matter is when it goes too far, it is more harmful than helpful. I have seen quitters walk away because of inmature and idiotic statements by other members.

I guess the point of this entry is, don't let a fucking idiot keep you from posting roll. We know the way of the wise...post roll, keep your fucking word, repeat tomorrow. If you do nothing else on the site, DO THIS! Choose your battles, the only one that is lasting is the battle with our addiction. Don't let stupid fucks get in your way, if they have it all figured out, well then they are the ones that no longer need the site. We still do.....

If you feel compelled to respond to this post to contradict my view or "show me" where or why I am wrong, don't. I don't really give a fuck what you have to say about it...to my brothers that have considered walking away over meaningless childish comments of others, well, you are bigger than that. Stick with what we know works, ignore the ignorant. QLAFM