Quitting now

[KennyZ]

Congratulations on 300!

[rtpope]

The following was written about you in your new group. Since you don't hang around after posting roll, I thought I would put it in your intro to make sure you read it. As you can see, there are more questions of you and the timing of your cave in may.

What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?

I've caved before. I was part of May 2014 and threw away a solid quit before reaching 100 days. I stopped by a bar after a long road trip by myself and had a few beers. To be honest, I just wanted a dip. I went to a convenience store, bought a can, and took a dip and then many dips. I didn't post roll that day and hadn't been posting for awhile. I also didn't reach out to any members of ktc via phone. The cave was in the making before that day because I drifted away from this site and stopped posting roll every day. I was back into a full blown addiction and it was far worse than before.

About 5 days before my quit, I posted a day 1 here in February 2015. I thought I could just post day 1 and like magic I would quit. That did not happen because I didn't put any effort into my quit. I didn't read or post on here and I just lasted a few hours and said fuck it, I can quit any time I want. Fortunately, I came back and posted in my introduction thread and I got my ass kicked by a lot of vets on ktc. Honestly, it hurt. I let down a lot of people and I didn't keep my word. I wasted another 6 months of my life being a slave to nicotine. $1000+ down the fucking hole. The hard asses in my introduction thread have motivated me to make this quit last for good. My integrity has been destroyed and people can't trust me.

This time, I am not going to miss a single day of roll call, no excuses. Yes, I want to be quit and I will demonstrate that by posting roll every day.

Honestly, what have you learned?
'Popcorn'

I've learned that posting roll every single day matters. I've learned that many members of ktc don't take this shit lightly (and they shouldn't) and that I abused this community before and I'm lucky to be coming back.

Did you cave on day 99? You said you caved before 100, but posted roll on 99.

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Edit: wrong link.

Why did it take you so long to post these answers?

Pretty sad that it took that long and this weak sauce is the best you got.

Letsgocave, look around at how caves are generally treated. You'll notice that the shit sandwich you ate and amount of harassment you received about not answering the questions was mild. It's because you meant so little to our group that nobody wants to waste their time on a lying loser that never bought into our group. Don't make the same mistake again.

So, lame answers and hazing aside... Nomore brings up a very important point.
Letsgo just claimed he caved prior to day 100. But he posted a day 99.
Nobody in the history of the world caves "just because" on day 99.
That roll post was a lie.

Poper gets the credit for that one, Lipi. He makes another great point too - If even you and I are ho-hum about this caver/haq, seems safe to say no one gives a shit. Let'sCave == HAQqani.

Hey guys. I am just a rookie, so I would never try and overstep my bounds with all of you vets. I respect you and what you are trying to do for me and the others here far too much. But I wanted to say that I didnt know LetsGo14 when you all did, and in an effort to be a part of this brotherhood, I reached out to him. I told him that I would be one to hold him accountable and responsible. I want to do my part for this forum to earn my place in it. I talk to him pretty regular, and will continue the fight. Thank you all for holding us to our work. It keeps me wanting to be quit everyday. I may only be 16 in, but I feel stronger than ever.

Bama: you feel stronger because you are. You are building a fortress of quit, one layer of accountability at a time.

We didn't know Letsgo14 either. That is part of why he caved. Be careful when you support known failures. They need the help but have a track record of shitting on their supporters. Be quick to cut the cord if he starts failing again.

16 days is awesome. You are winning! Keep up the good work!

[Tuco]

We are still waiting for your real answers.

Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?

Inquiring minds want to know...

I'm quitting one day at a time and that is your answer. I am tired of trying to explain myself in words. It doesn't work and I just get hammered by you guys. I am quitting for myself, posting roll with Feb 2015 each day, and am fighting for my life. My real answer comes each day that I'm quit.

Then allow me to level set.

You are a 3 time caver. The last one was barely a week ago. Your word is as good as lawn fertilizer around here.

KTC is about support through accountability, not support through ball coddling and lists of quit mantras. If you want the latter, there are plenty of other homes for you, but KTC isn't one of them.

The fact is, the one being hardest on you should be you, but it isn't. It's clear you'd rather forgive and forget. That's not how it works.

Until you stop being a massive fucking pussy, stop making weak excuses, take a good long look in the mirror, and are ready to accept what you really are, this place has nothing to offer you.

Jesus, I've seen 5 year olds with more integrity than you.

[Letsgo14]

We are still waiting for your real answers.

Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?

Inquiring minds want to know...

I'm quitting one day at a time and that is your answer. I am tired of trying to explain myself in words. It doesn't work and I just get hammered by you guys. I am quitting for myself, posting roll with Feb 2015 each day, and am fighting for my life. My real answer comes each day that I'm quit.

[slug.go]

We are still waiting for your real answers.

Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?

Inquiring minds want to know...

[rothstein57]

We are still waiting for your real answers.

Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?

[rtpope]

We are still waiting for your real answers.

[Thumblewort]

I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.

Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.

Damn Thumble. That was a great post. Too bad its wasted on this turd.
I was going to pile on, but the mushroom clouds in here make it clear that its not needed.

My momma would always say mushroom clouds better that mushroom bruises.......maybe my words are wasted, maybe not. I was shown (again) what brotherhood means yesterday, so trying to pay some of it forward. We may get burned, but at least we tried.

Quitting is hard.

[Lipizzaner]

I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.

Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.

Damn Thumble. That was a great post. Too bad its wasted on this turd.
I was going to pile on, but the mushroom clouds in here make it clear that its not needed.

[Thumblewort]

I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.

Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.

[twballgame9]

Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?

I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.

Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.

Holy shit, you aren't here to remind me of shit and no one wants the advice of a loser. You fucking lucked into one of the best fucking quit groups on the site, and you still couldn't be fucking bothered. You're a douche, and this won't be your last new intro. When you prove something to someone, just one, on this entire site, then maybe you will have earned the right to spout some wisdom.

Like slug.go, I've never caved with the support of KTC. So fuck off with your misguided and self righteous preaching. This could be the single worst post I have ever seen in 300 days of quit

[slug.go]

0830 where you live and not on roll?

[Candoit]

Give your god damn respect to your to be quit brethern. Post your three quality answers to them in roll, not hurried in your intro.

[Sajax]

Well, LetsGo, you seem to want to teach people something about caving and quitting. What I learned from you was this I sure as shit don't want to be in your shoes ever.

pumps up quit there...that feels better...

[rtpope]

Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.

Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.

I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work

It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'

You know, when you first came back I largely ignored you because I didn't remember you from Mayhem and I figured you were just another typical HAQ who pissed away an "attempt" and shit on your group. You wouldn't be the first. Now, I find out that not only are you a half-assed piece of shit, but you have caved at least three times. Not only that, I also hear you tried sneaking back in here like a fucking weasel acting like this was your first time. How fucking stupid do you think we all are? Then you go and talk shit to a couple of my brothers in May who are ten times the men you could ever be. Prepare yourself, because I am about to light you up like you deserve. And before you bring up "What would Jesus do?" or "Are you perfect?", let me get this out in the open so that you understand who you're dealing with. I was a caver. I was originally in the April 2013 group and made it almost 8 months before I caved. I came back here in February of this year and am a part of Mayhem '14. Notice how I said previously that I WAS a caver, because I am not that person anymore.

Now, where was I? You are such a cock sucker, moping around here for sympathy and "compassion." You deserve neither, because what you really need is a kick in the nuts. All I've heard from you since you've come back is a bunch of boo-hoo bullshit. Poor you, it's so hard to stay connected. It's so hard to post roll. It's so hard to not drift from the site. It's so hard to get to know your group. Well maybe if you gave a shit and made an actual effort it wouldn't be so fucking hard. You know what happened a couple weekends ago? The site was fucked up, and I had a new phone which I realized didn't have any quitters numbers in it, and being at deer camp I had no way to post roll. I felt like a pile of shit. You? Fuck, I doubt you would have even thought about posting roll in that situation. I'm sick and fucking tired of these lists and you saying how hard this is. The difference between me and you is that I pulled my head out of my ass and chose to quit instead of bitching and moaning and "trying."

Another thing. Quit with your fucking bitching for Christ's sake. Maybe instead of pissing and moaning you should think about all the people you have shit on by caving (x) number of times. You think that doesn't affect anyone when you consciously choose to go back on your word? It hurts everything this site stands for, you fuck. There is nothing hard about posting roll. There have been people aboard Navy ships who still manage to post roll, so we don't need to hear any bull shit from you. In fact, why are you even still here? All you've done is acted like some social pariah going around saying "Don't be like me! Stay strong! Don't cave!" If that's all you're going to do, why don't you just get the fuck out of here? Nobody should have to listen to your self-righteous bullshit.

I'm almost done, I promise. Fuck you. I admit I'm not perfect, I was a caver. But I realized where I went wrong, and I righted that ship in a big hurry. I still feel bad about shitting on my former group. If I could change it I would, but I'm in May now, and that's not changing. You might act like you know what you need to do, but all I hear from you is more caving bullshit. If you truly wanted to quit, posting roll wouldn't be hard. You are right about one thing. Fellow quitters, do not be like this fuck rag. He is a liar, a caver, a half-asser, and is not trustworthy in any way. Please see yourself to the door, Letscave.

You say that you realize how the KTC methods work by reading HOF and hol speeches. Then you say posting roll is hard. I learned to post from my phone bc it was the easiest way for me to promise my brothers. I've posted 285/285 days. If you thought this place worked and u wanted to quit, you would find a way to post EDD.

You owe May 14 some heartfelt answers about your cave in May. It looks like you posted day 99 and then never came back. Must have woke up on 100 cured.....

You owe February some heartfelt answers for your cave on 11/12. Couldn't go a whole day? Spineless coward. Bet you love the person u see in the mirror.

You said u drank some beers at the world'a greatest bar, Applebee's, then stopped at a store, bought a can and started back. Why did you buy the can? Did you think about this site? Did any of your quit brothers come to mind? What went through your mind as you took the first pinch? What was that like? How did it feel? Did you drive yourself? Were you drunk? Do you normally drive drunk? Bottom line is the answers to these dont matter to me, but could save your life.

I suggest you fuck off. You don't get it. You're not ready for this. You are weak. You have no honor. You have no integrity. Your word means nothing. Either buy into this site, keep ur head down, build a web of accountability and quit or FUCK OFF.