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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2014, 10:53:00 PM »
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.
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I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work
It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'
You know, when you first came back I largely ignored you because I didn't remember you from Mayhem and I figured you were just another typical HAQ who pissed away an "attempt" and shit on your group. You wouldn't be the first. Now, I find out that not only are you a half-assed piece of shit, but you have caved at least three times. Not only that, I also hear you tried sneaking back in here like a fucking weasel acting like this was your first time. How fucking stupid do you think we all are? Then you go and talk shit to a couple of my brothers in May who are ten times the men you could ever be. Prepare yourself, because I am about to light you up like you deserve. And before you bring up "What would Jesus do?" or "Are you perfect?", let me get this out in the open so that you understand who you're dealing with. I was a caver. I was originally in the April 2013 group and made it almost 8 months before I caved. I came back here in February of this year and am a part of Mayhem '14. Notice how I said previously that I WAS a caver, because I am not that person anymore.

Now, where was I? You are such a cock sucker, moping around here for sympathy and "compassion." You deserve neither, because what you really need is a kick in the nuts. All I've heard from you since you've come back is a bunch of boo-hoo bullshit. Poor you, it's so hard to stay connected. It's so hard to post roll. It's so hard to not drift from the site. It's so hard to get to know your group. Well maybe if you gave a shit and made an actual effort it wouldn't be so fucking hard. You know what happened a couple weekends ago? The site was fucked up, and I had a new phone which I realized didn't have any quitters numbers in it, and being at deer camp I had no way to post roll. I felt like a pile of shit. You? Fuck, I doubt you would have even thought about posting roll in that situation. I'm sick and fucking tired of these lists and you saying how hard this is. The difference between me and you is that I pulled my head out of my ass and chose to quit instead of bitching and moaning and "trying."

Another thing. Quit with your fucking bitching for Christ's sake. Maybe instead of pissing and moaning you should think about all the people you have shit on by caving (x) number of times. You think that doesn't affect anyone when you consciously choose to go back on your word? It hurts everything this site stands for, you fuck. There is nothing hard about posting roll. There have been people aboard Navy ships who still manage to post roll, so we don't need to hear any bull shit from you. In fact, why are you even still here? All you've done is acted like some social pariah going around saying "Don't be like me! Stay strong! Don't cave!" If that's all you're going to do, why don't you just get the fuck out of here? Nobody should have to listen to your self-righteous bullshit.

I'm almost done, I promise. Fuck you. I admit I'm not perfect, I was a caver. But I realized where I went wrong, and I righted that ship in a big hurry. I still feel bad about shitting on my former group. If I could change it I would, but I'm in May now, and that's not changing. You might act like you know what you need to do, but all I hear from you is more caving bullshit. If you truly wanted to quit, posting roll wouldn't be hard. You are right about one thing. Fellow quitters, do not be like this fuck rag. He is a liar, a caver, a half-asser, and is not trustworthy in any way. Please see yourself to the door, Letscave.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2014, 10:14:00 PM »
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.
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I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work
It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2014, 09:25:00 PM »
Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2014, 07:49:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
Then stop being a piece of shit and become a piece of quit.
Times a million.

Stop blaming your circumstances, and start taking responsibility.

I was sick of being a piece of shit too. When I came back in 2011, it was because my son came home and packed a can of beef jerky in front of me and my wife. I got a death look from her, and my heart fell from my chest. My boy was going to be just like me...

I didn't come back to sunshine and rainbows. I fucking fought hand in hand with my brothers until I earned respect. I had no right to demand it, and had to fucking tunnel vision my quit on occasion. It wasn't a walk in the park, but I had a good group of brothers beside me.

Honestly, man...fuck what we think about you. You can't change that. Worry about your quit first: get numbers. Use them. Help others. Stay quit. lead when you can and lean when you need to.

You can do this. That's the compassion you need. No excuses.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2014, 06:59:00 PM »
You PM'd me thanking me for my support in Feb '15. I don't recall specifically offering it to you, but I've also largely remained on the sidelines while your former quit brothers have held your feet to the fire for some sorely lacking accountability. That said, I think my response to you actually belongs here so that it cannot be erased or ignored.
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I'll be straight with you. My support for you is tepid at best right now. I've seen countless guys come back through that door after caving multiple times, only to disappoint once again. It's a certified cliché at this point. Based on what I've seen from you, you talk a big game, but once the sheer misery of the first few weeks wears off, it's the daily grind of being a +1 that ultimately does you in. Plus, you've said some things that really stick out at me, and not in a good way. You said you were getting into the quitting "zone" now. There is no zone. You are either quit or you are not. Then you said today that posting roll every day is hard. It isn't. It takes less than a minute to do and there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of us as 100% active posters to prove it. Frankly, that was one of the most personally insulting excuses I have ever read on this site. Posting is a privilege, not a chore, and it is something I take tremendous pride in doing first thing each day. To think of it in any terms other than that is disgraceful and a disservice to KTC.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but I just don't think you have the right mindset for this. Go ahead and give this thread a read: single/?p=8685610t=10254046 Maybe there will be something that registers better for you.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2014, 06:56:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.

Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
No, letsgo, I have never caved while using KTC, started 299 days ago. I never really tried to quit in earnest before I got here, donÂ’t even remember if I had any stops in my 33 years of dipping. Since I got here, 100% quit and 100% roll. To preach you with less than those numbers would be hypocritical, does that answer your question?
You donÂ’t need to remind me what weakness looks like, i was once weak like you, but not any longer.
You want compassion? If I didnÂ’t give a tinkerÂ’s damn about you, I wouldnÂ’t have written a single thing about you. Compassion and pity are two distinct things, youÂ’ll never get my pity. Compassion? Look it up, thatÂ’s what this is. You might not like how itÂ’s worded, but thatÂ’s what this is.

And just why is it so hard to post roll every day? You live on Mars? You found a way to dip every day, didnÂ’t you?

Also, if you still have my phone #, delete it. I deleted yours when you chose not to answer my ‘where are you, man’ texts, trying to keep you from caving. If I want you to have it, I’ll re-send it when I choose to.
Unless you are in a biosphere bubble at the bottom of the Mariana Trence and have to tap into a shitty dial up line using a submersible for short high pressure dives, I find it difficult to believe it is any harder for you than anyone else that managers to be on roll every damn day.

FUCK EXCUSES. Either you ass is in with both feet in the water or you are just jerking yourself and the rest of us off.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2014, 01:54:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.

Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
No, letsgo, I have never caved while using KTC, started 299 days ago. I never really tried to quit in earnest before I got here, donÂ’t even remember if I had any stops in my 33 years of dipping. Since I got here, 100% quit and 100% roll. To preach you with less than those numbers would be hypocritical, does that answer your question?
You donÂ’t need to remind me what weakness looks like, i was once weak like you, but not any longer.
You want compassion? If I didnÂ’t give a tinkerÂ’s damn about you, I wouldnÂ’t have written a single thing about you. Compassion and pity are two distinct things, youÂ’ll never get my pity. Compassion? Look it up, thatÂ’s what this is. You might not like how itÂ’s worded, but thatÂ’s what this is.

And just why is it so hard to post roll every day? You live on Mars? You found a way to dip every day, didnÂ’t you?

Also, if you still have my phone #, delete it. I deleted yours when you chose not to answer my ‘where are you, man’ texts, trying to keep you from caving. If I want you to have it, I’ll re-send it when I choose to.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2014, 01:40:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.

Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2014, 01:38:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
Then stop being a piece of shit and become a piece of quit.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2014, 01:22:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.

He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.

But as you  I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.

How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?

Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2014, 01:21:00 PM »
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
It's bullshit. I'm putting it all out there. I'm a piece of shit but I'm getting better and that is what I'm here for. I am thankful for everyone here.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2014, 01:15:00 PM »
Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2014, 12:44:00 PM »
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ItÂ’s 11:00 on the East Coast, 8:00 out West. Why arenÂ’t you on roll? IsnÂ’t that on your list?
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2014, 12:43:00 PM »
What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?


Ok, I get it. I screwed up. Maybe I'm not man enough? Maybe I'm a little bitch? Maybe I'm just a bro? Some of you that have worked your asses off and been able to remain quit without caving deserve the right to get on us cavers. For all of you calling me out, how many times have you tried to quit? Have you ever caved before? Do you remember how hard it is to come back and make the decision to quit? Your tough love is working but compassion can also be effective. But maybe I don't deserve compassion because I'm selfish. I wonder how Jesus Christ would act?

You know what? I thought about just giving up and writing, you guys are right, this site doesn't work for me...have a nice day and not show up again. But that is my addiction talking and I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work. Obviously the problem isn't the KTC method, the problem is me. I don't follow through. So typical of someone that dips. Don't you get it? I have been stuck as a slave to nicotine and I keep going back to it. And when I do try to quit, I don't follow through on posting every SINGLE FUCKING DAY. No other option for me.

Now to answer the original question...I had a day off of work, went to Applebee's, had some beer, stopped by the gas station, bought a can, and started dipping. It was that simple and happened so quick. I was hooked again and dipped very heavily. Sometimes 2-3 cans a day all up in my mouth. This time, I am going to private message every quitter in my HOF class, every day. I'm going to check in with each individual and help hold them accountable to their quit. Yes I want to be quit. The past month has been misery. I do not want to go through this bullshit again.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2014, 10:58:00 AM »
ItÂ’s 11:00 on the East Coast, 8:00 out West. Why arenÂ’t you on roll? IsnÂ’t that on your list?
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