Proud to say I will be a quitter

[Dagranger]

The True Enemy-

Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.

I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.

So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.

The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.

But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.

I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.

Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.

Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.

Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.

As usual very well written Derek. I thank you for your selflessness nature and your willingness to help others.

Derek, you're the man. Loved that you flushed the can with your family. Great lesson for your kids.

[Pinched]

The True Enemy-

Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.

I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.

So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.

The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.

But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.

I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.

Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.

Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.

Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.

As usual very well written Derek. I thank you for your selflessness nature and your willingness to help others.

[sixercountry]

The True Enemy-

Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.

I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.

So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.

The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.

But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.

I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.

Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.

Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.

Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.

[worktowin]

The True Enemy-

Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.

I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.

So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.

The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.

But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.

I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.

Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.

Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.

[SirDerek]

The True Enemy-

Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.

I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.

So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.

The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.

But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.

I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.

[conbud]

I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.

Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.

I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.

Proud to be quit with you today sir.

Keep on quittin on.

That's right, it is the "backbone" of what brings us together. Without a "backbone" I guess that just makes us.... spineless.

Proud to be quit another day with you SD.

[SirDerek]

Well I had another couple of items but thoughts are not clear right now as how to pen them.

So I have sent Merlin away, no more tales, no more stories, no more magic, no more experiments.

I will return to my castle in Oct12, will focus on sharpening my tools, fortifying its base and structure.

The drawbridge is down, and the table is always available for those who need help or just was to chat.

My hand is open, for those who want it for help.

Be good my friends and thanks.

Thank you all, you have given me a lot to think about,

wanted to bump this from above in case you would be looking for me (of course can also find me often in the chat room)

[30isEnuff]

I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.

Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.

I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.

Proud to be quit with you today sir.

Keep on quittin on.

Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.

^^^^^^^^^
I think the point has been made and we are all on the same page. Maybe posting about the vacation from roll posting "experiment" it in a newer group wasn't the best thing but the conclusion reinforced why we need to be here everyday be it 100 days, 1,000 days, or 2,00 days. I met a retread quitter yesterday in the chatroom that stopped/quit in early 2008 and would have had more days now than myself, but he chose to stop posting roll and drifted away and caved. I think his name is shortstack. He said he was mad at himself for wasting 5 or 6 more years of his life being a slave to a poisonous plant and is back as a "new" quitter.

Posting Roll works.
SD works  works hard.
We all work ODAAT to "be quit", period
Every a.m. I wake, I remember my Day1, post roll thinking about everyone on here. Old, new, ugly, good, mean, friendly...don't matter cause as a group you have helped me not put the poison in my mouth for another Day.
SD is a rock star of quit.
I quit with You today and any other day that ends with a Y.

[Kdip]

I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.

Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.

I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.

Proud to be quit with you today sir.

Keep on quittin on.

Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.

^^^^^^^^^
I think the point has been made and we are all on the same page. Maybe posting about the vacation from roll posting "experiment" it in a newer group wasn't the best thing but the conclusion reinforced why we need to be here everyday be it 100 days, 1,000 days, or 2,00 days. I met a retread quitter yesterday in the chatroom that stopped/quit in early 2008 and would have had more days now than myself, but he chose to stop posting roll and drifted away and caved. I think his name is shortstack. He said he was mad at himself for wasting 5 or 6 more years of his life being a slave to a poisonous plant and is back as a "new" quitter.

[flash]

I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.

Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.

I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.

Proud to be quit with you today sir.

Keep on quittin on.

Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.

[chewie]

I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.

Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.

I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.

Proud to be quit with you today sir.

Keep on quittin on.

[sixercountry]

SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!

^^^^^Zzzzzzzzzzzz.......Can see right through this....throwing up posts when things get semi-controversial about a certain conflict from the end of June. I dont remember you posting any support on Sirderek's intro page when his Anniversary date came and passed. I could have missed it though. Yawn.

[sixercountry]

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[SirDerek]

Well I had another couple of items but thoughts are not clear right now as how to pen them.

So I have sent Merlin away, no more tales, no more stories, no more magic, no more experiments.

I will return to my castle in Oct12, will focus on sharpening my tools, fortifying its base and structure.

The drawbridge is down, and the table is always available for those who need help or just was to chat.

My hand is open, for those who want it for help.

Be good my friends and thanks.

[30yraddict]

Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).

KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.

Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.

There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.

If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.

You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.

As always, Derek, dignity and grace. No name calling. No bullying. Just QUIT! I am proud to sit with you at that Oct 12 "round table" you speak of.
You of all people know how important your word is and are a true man of integrity. You are genuine and have helped so many here on KTC. I personally THANK YOU for that.
I appreciate what you attempted to do here, my friend. It's unfortunate some people cannot see that you, along with others here, really do have the best interest of everyone's QUIT at heart with everything you post.




**You guys might want to stop attacking quitters of Derek's caliber just for the sake of arguing. It's becoming a bad habit. Go back and read what was written with the attitude that Derek is making the point that even though his quit was secure, he still felt a void without the site. Nothing more. Nothing less. You are working on losing more strong quitters/supporters due to your negative attitudes. Just QUIT already!

SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!

Hello Derek,

I do not doubt the intentions of your post nor the integrity of your quit.
However, I do seriously question the logic of your experiment.

If I wanted to show a new group that Russian Roulette was dangerous,
I would not point the gun to my head to make the point.

All we need to do to show that posting roll is serious and important business
is to model it ourselves and show that successful quitters follow this one key rule.

If you carefully think about what you wrote, you will see that it can be interpreted
both positively and negatively. Those who responded critically saw the potential
negative impact and reacted accordingly.

It was the idea and its implications that was attacked; not your person.

Keddy

Derek,

I agree with keddy. It isn't anything personal. I DO see the point you were trying to make- that you should post roll. However, skipping rollcall as an experiment? I am not on board with that. So many have tried that experiment when they thought they were ready and ended up coming back, red faced posting a day 1. Those are the ones that we know about. I am sure there are countless others that are still stuffing their jaws with cancer candy.

The great thing about the KTC way of quitting is that it works as written. Post Roll... Honor your promise, repeat. No need to experiment with a system that works.