It’s time. I’m ready

[Bug Guy]

Very glad we got things worked out and that you agreed to post roll and stick around. Happy as hell to have you here. These things only make us stronger. When life is easy we're not really learning anything. When things get tough and challenge us, that's when we learn a lot about ourselves and our resolve. You were ready to call it quits, but YOU decided that you weren't giving up and jumped back into the fire. Not saying it's all going to be rainbows and sunshine from here on out, but I know your being here is going to make it that much better. #strongertogether lol ok so that's a bit corny, but I had to.

Proud to be quit with you Brian! Keep kicking nic's ass!

[WonPump]

The below post is simply to address the ongoing confusion and continued perception that there was something going on with me missing roll, not following through on my promise here.

I encourage anyone who challenges the below post to take the time to dig through each day of August roll leading up to day 19. If you find anything I said to be false post it and let me know. Let everyone know. (You won’t find anything.)

I’m not making any more enemies here okay. I’m here for my august guys. I’m here for buddies that I text every day now. I don’t care at all about the people who wanna shit talk me. My life will go on. Our group is done with drama. If you aren’t in our group keep your drama away from us. We will grow together and we do not need your bullshit.

This situation has surely led to many people thinking I’m crazy and dramatic. Man I am such a chill person I can’t wait to just show that and have this be done with. But I need you guys to be done with it. This situation began between Bug Guy (Steve) and myself. As far as I’m concerned this situation ended tonight when he and I linked up on the phone. I called him, ready to kill him, swearing my ass off. The call ended with us laughing and making a gentlemen’s bet on something related to the topic that I won’t share. And with me letting him know I really did feel humbled by our call and I needed it. I was really on edge dealing with for a couple days.

If I see anything like this happen on this site again with someone new I will step in and it will be stopped before it gets as far as this did. It’s unacceptable. I almost let these people make me leave. I wouldn’t have stayed quit. I’m not letting any person on this site do that to someone else. Be careful what you create in a person because your gang bullying days are over.

[WonPump]

I’m just going to post this once here and stop updating.


I never missed roll. I never posted roll late. (I stated my hours early on in this intro thread, and people hadn’t read my intro, and jumped on me for being late)

I was not late, posting roll was never an issue. ONE PERSON did not know my hours, called me out and the gang mentality kicked in and suddenly a dozen people were on me and it was a complete and udder debacle from there on. My PMs are loaded with people saying I’ll be back on day 1 soon and get laughed at, loaded with people saying “your updates are too casual, you’re trolling, you haven’t even quit. You aren’t going through anything I experienced” yes there are multiple people saying I didn’t even quit. Slap in the face, imagine that being said to you? Would you not literally lose your shit being told that with everything you’re already dealing with 19 days into quitting? Maybe you’re a better or stronger minded person than me. But you 3 people, I assume coordinated, and PMed me that all in the same day. I hope you’re proud of yourselves and all the “help” you bring to people here. Fucking cowards. And I will offer you each $100 PayPal/cashapp/Venmo whichever you prefer to publically apologize to me for saying that. All the other shit talk, fuck you I don’t care, but I deserve an apology for being told I haven’t even quit. You’re cowards though, I know you won’t do so.

How did it all begin? I posted roll when I woke up like I did every other day, and it was too late for one persons liking (I sleep when I sleep, and made everyone aware of that here in this thread) and again, too many hands in the pot and suddenly there were 20 new issues being made up and thrown around.

Ask anyone here with a brain and not the garbage. I didn’t provoke anything that came my way. Am I completely innocent? I am not. I am never in my life going to be talked down to. And I reacted like a MAN should. I’m not gonna bend over for you fucking weirdos. I didn’t then, I won’t tomorrow and I never once will. Know that. Now please for the love of god can this be the last time I address this so I can move forward?

Know how much this situation triggered me? 19 days quit and I had people with moderator and HOF this and that and all these legit people I figured I should be looking up to, PMing me the most random bullshit I’ve ever experienced. Mentions all day long in OUR GROUP thread meant for US NEW QUITTERS. Get a damn life man. I’ve addressed it, I want to move on now. This situation was super detrimental to my quit. Nothing in the past 21 days made me want to grab a tin more than the pussies who think they’re cool ganging up on someone on the internet. Want to help me? Learn when enough is enough and if I’m not on roll GET ON MY ASS. Shut your mouth until then. None of this should’ve happened and everyone knows it, most of them are too delusional and weird to admit it though. They will just forever think it’s cool to throw in their opinion and made up accusations where they’re not at all needed so they feel important. You aren’t important. You’re just an addict, same as me. That is to everyone.

Stay Quit cuz god damnit I AM

[69franx]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

So are you going to post roll? This isn’t Facebook, where you post a status update. It’s an accountability forum where you post a promise. Then keep that promise.

And every day, at the beginning of your day. Are you commiting to that? That's all anyone has wanted so far from what I've seen.

I did that from the start. It’s sad how many people have been misinformed and made to think I didn’t.

Then what are people giving you a hard time about? I see nothing in this intro that says people are expecting too much from you. I just see you bitching and moaning about all the crap people give you. You did nothing to deserve that attention? I can't imagine that. There are plenty of miscreants and "garbage" on here, but they only come and start shit when they see or hear addict speak. If you're innocent of that, keep doing what you're doing. In the end, quitting is for you and you know what works for you; but we have all seen enough quitters say that they are done for good, and won't go back and talk about leaving after 10 days, 19 days, 101 days, etc that do not remain quit, that folks jump all over that every single time they see someone spewing the addict speak of "you just don't understand.... It's different for me... My special circumstances.... So and so was mean to me"
Don't try to quit, just quit. Don't bitch and moan about your special situation, just quit.
The best thing you have been told and do seem to be in tune with is "take what you need and leave the rest'
Post roll
Keep your word
Wake up and do it again
Simple plan, takes courage and commitment to do. Don't let the garbage run you off if this is what you need.
Pm coming your way if you need one more set of digits

[WonPump]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

So are you going to post roll? This isn’t Facebook, where you post a status update. It’s an accountability forum where you post a promise. Then keep that promise.

Yes. I did everyday, was never a problem. You are misinformed unfortunately

[WonPump]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

So are you going to post roll? This isn’t Facebook, where you post a status update. It’s an accountability forum where you post a promise. Then keep that promise.

And every day, at the beginning of your day. Are you commiting to that? That's all anyone has wanted so far from what I've seen.

I did that from the start. It’s sad how many people have been misinformed and made to think I didn’t.

[69franx]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

So are you going to post roll? This isn’t Facebook, where you post a status update. It’s an accountability forum where you post a promise. Then keep that promise.

And every day, at the beginning of your day. Are you commiting to that? That's all anyone has wanted so far from what I've seen.

[RDB]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

So are you going to post roll? This isn’t Facebook, where you post a status update. It’s an accountability forum where you post a promise. Then keep that promise.

[WonPump]

Very brief update on my quit. These last few days for reasons many who may read this know, have been very detrimental to my quit. I can’t allow things that are “bad” for me and my quit to happen. I came to this website seeking help and seeking to be part of a group, be accountable to somebody. I don’t have many people that myself quitting would mean much of anything to. I have a few buddies. I have my mom. I don’t have anyone who’s getting on me about it or that’s super proud of me for quitting etc. I don’t need super proud. I need a group of people to let down. I need going back to mean I’m hurting others. I will not do that, the thought of that gives me strength. I’m here to quit. I’m here for the other new members and the veterans that I’ve spoken to. I’m not here for the douche bags and I promise I will never change my view of some of you guys. But that is not important. You guys are not important to me.

Take what you need and leave the rest is what I’ve been told. I need the people who I’ve gotten to know and the ones I’ll meet going forward. I’ll leave the garbage that some of you are. You can rot.

Stay quit!

[EXBEARHAG]

Thought I’d give a bit of an outro as I leave KTC

19 days quit. Feeling great physically and mentally. Ever since around day 5 I’ve been very good. That first 5 days is super rough but I’ve been good since.

There’s a couple reasons I’m leaving KTC and a few things that have been brought up that ARE NOT in any way involved.

I am not looking for an excuse to go backwards. I wouldn’t waste these 19 days for any reason.

I am however so far above being talked down to the way a few weirdos on here have done. The overwhelming majority of members here are incredible people, and I relate to you guys extremely well. I appreciate all of you, even the douchebags who live on a high horse for some reason. You’re weird, but you are appreciated. There’s douchebags everywhere in the world so it’s fitting they’re here as well.

Quick shoutout to some of the awesome guys I’ve spoken with, redwood, chaotique, chris2alaska, gottadoit, stillbrewing, exbearhag, coachmts. I’ve left off a name or two for sure and not on purpose. I appreciate your guys support, getting on me in a normal way, and being good ass people who are on this journey with me everyday.

I’m not making this post to be dramatic or for any attention, more so to let everyone know I am in fact leaving and not to send out a search party. I will be exchanging daily texts with most of the above people and that will keep me going.

I apologize to those who’s standards I couldn’t live up to here. I woke up and posted every single day like I was told to do and promised I would. Some days I did in fact post and not return until the next day, many days I didn’t. Whatever you expected of me that I didn’t do, I apologize that you felt the way you did and felt you could talk down to me. That’ll never happen in my lifetime though, I am a grown ass man fellas.

But that’s all for me. I did my absolute best here to contribute and be a part of the larger group. I could stick around but due to a few of the members here I simply am choosing not to.

I will stay quit, and you better do the same.

-Brian

Hate to see you go @WonPump. There is a saving on KTC - take what you need and leave the rest meaning there is some noise but don’t let it distract from the task at hand - staying nic free. Hope you will reconsider.

@WonPump The thing we always say here is take what you need and leave the rest. You chances of success without KTC are slim to none. 19 days is great but your quit is still a newborn who just had their umbilical cord cut. Hell, I used to make it 19 days on my own without KTC; but today I have the honor to post day 1,480.

You are throwing the baby out with the bath water because your newly nicotine deprived brain has a shorter fuse than normal and you aren't thinking clearly. We understand; we have all been there. If everyone bolted because they butted heads with others here, this place wouldn't exist.

Post roll; honor your word. The rest is noise.

Copied from August '20:

 I remember feeling similar in the first several weeks of my quit.  I was raging (didn't really even know it) and just trying to keep my shit together.  I was getting some pressure from vets to be more active and it pissed me off.  I couldn't do much more than just hold on at the time.  A fellow quitter reached out to me and told me to just hold the line.  Some vets get on the new boards and push pretty hard.  I think their intentions are good but it sometimes comes across the wrong way.  Eventually, there will be other new groups and your group will be left alone.  Don't get me wrong, I agree that the more you participate and get involved, the stronger your quit is and the more successful you are going to be.  But...the ONLY price of admission here is to post roll.  Personally I do think you are making a mistake by walking away.  I will text with you for as long as you like but nothing can replace being part of a group and accomplishing milestones with a team of people on the same position.  My advise would be to post roll, make connections, ignore all the fuzz that isn't helpful to you.  LMK where/when i can help but I would keep posting roll.  Hold that line brother.

~HAG

[MN_Engineer]

Thought I’d give a bit of an outro as I leave KTC

19 days quit. Feeling great physically and mentally. Ever since around day 5 I’ve been very good. That first 5 days is super rough but I’ve been good since.

There’s a couple reasons I’m leaving KTC and a few things that have been brought up that ARE NOT in any way involved.

I am not looking for an excuse to go backwards. I wouldn’t waste these 19 days for any reason.

I am however so far above being talked down to the way a few weirdos on here have done. The overwhelming majority of members here are incredible people, and I relate to you guys extremely well. I appreciate all of you, even the douchebags who live on a high horse for some reason. You’re weird, but you are appreciated. There’s douchebags everywhere in the world so it’s fitting they’re here as well.

Quick shoutout to some of the awesome guys I’ve spoken with, redwood, chaotique, chris2alaska, gottadoit, stillbrewing, exbearhag, coachmts. I’ve left off a name or two for sure and not on purpose. I appreciate your guys support, getting on me in a normal way, and being good ass people who are on this journey with me everyday.

I’m not making this post to be dramatic or for any attention, more so to let everyone know I am in fact leaving and not to send out a search party. I will be exchanging daily texts with most of the above people and that will keep me going.

I apologize to those who’s standards I couldn’t live up to here. I woke up and posted every single day like I was told to do and promised I would. Some days I did in fact post and not return until the next day, many days I didn’t. Whatever you expected of me that I didn’t do, I apologize that you felt the way you did and felt you could talk down to me. That’ll never happen in my lifetime though, I am a grown ass man fellas.

But that’s all for me. I did my absolute best here to contribute and be a part of the larger group. I could stick around but due to a few of the members here I simply am choosing not to.

I will stay quit, and you better do the same.

-Brian

Hate to see you go @WonPump. There is a saving on KTC - take what you need and leave the rest meaning there is some noise but don’t let it distract from the task at hand - staying nic free. Hope you will reconsider.

@WonPump The thing we always say here is take what you need and leave the rest. You chances of success without KTC are slim to none. 19 days is great but your quit is still a newborn who just had their umbilical cord cut. Hell, I used to make it 19 days on my own without KTC; but today I have the honor to post day 1,480.

You are throwing the baby out with the bath water because your newly nicotine deprived brain has a shorter fuse than normal and you aren't thinking clearly. We understand; we have all been there. If everyone bolted because they butted heads with others here, this place wouldn't exist.

Post roll; honor your word. The rest is noise.

[Keith0617]

Thought I’d give a bit of an outro as I leave KTC

19 days quit. Feeling great physically and mentally. Ever since around day 5 I’ve been very good. That first 5 days is super rough but I’ve been good since.

There’s a couple reasons I’m leaving KTC and a few things that have been brought up that ARE NOT in any way involved.

I am not looking for an excuse to go backwards. I wouldn’t waste these 19 days for any reason.

I am however so far above being talked down to the way a few weirdos on here have done. The overwhelming majority of members here are incredible people, and I relate to you guys extremely well. I appreciate all of you, even the douchebags who live on a high horse for some reason. You’re weird, but you are appreciated. There’s douchebags everywhere in the world so it’s fitting they’re here as well.

Quick shoutout to some of the awesome guys I’ve spoken with, redwood, chaotique, chris2alaska, gottadoit, stillbrewing, exbearhag, coachmts. I’ve left off a name or two for sure and not on purpose. I appreciate your guys support, getting on me in a normal way, and being good ass people who are on this journey with me everyday.

I’m not making this post to be dramatic or for any attention, more so to let everyone know I am in fact leaving and not to send out a search party. I will be exchanging daily texts with most of the above people and that will keep me going.

I apologize to those who’s standards I couldn’t live up to here. I woke up and posted every single day like I was told to do and promised I would. Some days I did in fact post and not return until the next day, many days I didn’t. Whatever you expected of me that I didn’t do, I apologize that you felt the way you did and felt you could talk down to me. That’ll never happen in my lifetime though, I am a grown ass man fellas.

But that’s all for me. I did my absolute best here to contribute and be a part of the larger group. I could stick around but due to a few of the members here I simply am choosing not to.

I will stay quit, and you better do the same.

-Brian

Hate to see you go @WonPump. There is a saving on KTC - take what you need and leave the rest meaning there is some noise but don’t let it distract from the task at hand - staying nic free. Hope you will reconsider.

[WonPump]

Thought I’d give a bit of an outro as I leave KTC

19 days quit. Feeling great physically and mentally. Ever since around day 5 I’ve been very good. That first 5 days is super rough but I’ve been good since.

There’s a couple reasons I’m leaving KTC and a few things that have been brought up that ARE NOT in any way involved.

I am not looking for an excuse to go backwards. I wouldn’t waste these 19 days for any reason.

I am however so far above being talked down to the way a few weirdos on here have done. The overwhelming majority of members here are incredible people, and I relate to you guys extremely well. I appreciate all of you, even the douchebags who live on a high horse for some reason. You’re weird, but you are appreciated. There’s douchebags everywhere in the world so it’s fitting they’re here as well.

Quick shoutout to some of the awesome guys I’ve spoken with, redwood, chaotique, chris2alaska, gottadoit, stillbrewing, exbearhag, coachmts. I’ve left off a name or two for sure and not on purpose. I appreciate your guys support, getting on me in a normal way, and being good ass people who are on this journey with me everyday.

I’m not making this post to be dramatic or for any attention, more so to let everyone know I am in fact leaving and not to send out a search party. I will be exchanging daily texts with most of the above people and that will keep me going.

I apologize to those who’s standards I couldn’t live up to here. I woke up and posted every single day like I was told to do and promised I would. Some days I did in fact post and not return until the next day, many days I didn’t. Whatever you expected of me that I didn’t do, I apologize that you felt the way you did and felt you could talk down to me. That’ll never happen in my lifetime though, I am a grown ass man fellas.

But that’s all for me. I did my absolute best here to contribute and be a part of the larger group. I could stick around but due to a few of the members here I simply am choosing not to.

I will stay quit, and you better do the same.

-Brian

[EXBEARHAG]

I get a lot of vibes from members of this site that I am doing something wrong here. I am on day 13, I’ve posted roll everyday. What am I missing?

I’m quitting, I’m keeping my promise, I’m doing insanely well actually, about a full week of feeling incredible with no cravings or temptation at all.

I think sometimes it’s okay to just be doing well. Letting it be easy while it’s easy. Not dreading or fearing a relapse. Not craving and stress eating and being up all night. It really is okay to be okay and I get a lot of texts, DMs and replies that come across very strange to me. Like I’m doing something wrong because I’m doing well.

Weird stuff. Going forward I’m posting roll daily only. Those who have my number, if you have an emergency I am always here. I quit 13 days ago and I’m not going to live every day fearing the worst. I am going to enjoy being quit and be positive.

If you are posting roll early, every damn day and keeping your promise, you are doing things right. Sounds also like you have shared digits with people which is very important too.

You are not wrong to enjoy the easy times. I've always preached to enjoy the smooth sections of road but prepare for the worst. The messages you are receiving is because you WILL hit rough patches in your quit. Complacency is the biggest quit killer and people want to make sure someone like yourself with less than 2 weeks under your belt don't fall into early complacency. Those of us with some more time on KTC have seen it a play out hundreds of times where people go a few weeks, months, etc. feel good about their quit, leave the site and then come crawling back because they hit a rough patch and caved.

So continue to do what you are doing. But stay vigilant and don't let yourself get complacent.

Hey @WonPump.  I wouldn't sweat it.  Post roll early every day.  If you are anything like me, this will be enough most days to stay on the right path.  Take what you want from the rest of the site.  Many believe that the more you are involved here, the better the chance you'll stay quit...and I certainly think that is true.  However, if you post roll and are solidly quit, no one will force you to be more involved.  As you've heard, opinions are like assholes...  You do you!  You are not doing anything wrong.  Take what is helpful from the comments and conversations you have with people here and ignore the naysayers and malcontents.  You are killing it.  Reach out any time.

PTBQWYT my friend

~HAG

[MN_Engineer]

I get a lot of vibes from members of this site that I am doing something wrong here. I am on day 13, I’ve posted roll everyday. What am I missing?

I’m quitting, I’m keeping my promise, I’m doing insanely well actually, about a full week of feeling incredible with no cravings or temptation at all.

I think sometimes it’s okay to just be doing well. Letting it be easy while it’s easy. Not dreading or fearing a relapse. Not craving and stress eating and being up all night. It really is okay to be okay and I get a lot of texts, DMs and replies that come across very strange to me. Like I’m doing something wrong because I’m doing well.

Weird stuff. Going forward I’m posting roll daily only. Those who have my number, if you have an emergency I am always here. I quit 13 days ago and I’m not going to live every day fearing the worst. I am going to enjoy being quit and be positive.

If you are posting roll early, every damn day and keeping your promise, you are doing things right. Sounds also like you have shared digits with people which is very important too.

You are not wrong to enjoy the easy times. I've always preached to enjoy the smooth sections of road but prepare for the worst. The messages you are receiving is because you WILL hit rough patches in your quit. Complacency is the biggest quit killer and people want to make sure someone like yourself with less than 2 weeks under your belt don't fall into early complacency. Those of us with some more time on KTC have seen it a play out hundreds of times where people go a few weeks, months, etc. feel good about their quit, leave the site and then come crawling back because they hit a rough patch and caved.

So continue to do what you are doing. But stay vigilant and don't let yourself get complacent.