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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #307 on: July 03, 2011, 09:27:00 PM »
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New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..
Hey now, the native American Indian population successfully thrived on tobacco, even to this dayÂ…err, oh never mind. :unsure:
Now isn't this convenient that the rules for reporting were changed in the recent past? This illustrates the "partnership" between big tobacco and the govt that I discussed a couple weeks ago (below) with a nice little added twist. Relaxing reporting requirements for a "regulated" product is remarkably helpful when the company wants to launch a new product (errr, campaign to addict new customers) that includes more of the addictive substance. That's just great...
Quote from: Leahy16
Tobacco companies evil??? Maybe. They certainly operate within an interesting environment. I fault the Federal Govt at least as much. Big tobacco is motivated by profit for it's shareholders, a fundamentally sound motivator, whereas the Govt is profiting from this product and yet forcing the companies to warn consumers not to use it....huh??? WTF? The govt talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Doesn't the govt actually profit more, per pack of cigarettes in the form of tax, than the tobacco companies make? Wow! That's quite a business arrangement. The Fed has NO exposure to liability for a product that kills millions of its citizens, a product that same govt profits from. Oh, and let's not forget the govt (granted it was the states) also were successful in suing big tobacco for billions of their profits for medical costs. ERRRR, isn't that money just coming from the opposite side of the balance sheet.

Isn't the Fed just a business partner of Big tobacco???

Here's a question for you...At what point does this business become the responsibility of the govt? The tax on the product continues to increase...isn't there a point at which the govt essentially owns it.

If it looks like shit, and smells like shit, and tastes like shit, then....it's probably shit!!!
I agree with you on this one Leahy.

Guys here rail on Big Tobacco for being evil, and campaigning straight to kids, etc. Is it a business I could be in? No.

BUT...

I don't fault those guys for being in it. I DO think that our politicians are even MORE liable than Big Tobacco. Everyone knows this shit kills. It just kills really, really slowly.

Up here in Maine, they just raised the tax ANOTHER $1 PER PACK on cigs. Two things that I say to myself: 1. Who does that REALLY hurt? (A: The poor fuckers that are addicted, and will probably buys smokes over milk) and 2. Where does that money go? (A: To the dirty fucking politician sitting in DC...so HE (or she) can ride around on my dime fucking up my country with stupid laws.)

No the problem is, once you get in the Prohibition business...well, we've seen where that goes.

My solution? Get Gov't out of it. Of course, that's pretty much my solution to everything...so....there it is.
I'm with you...get govt out of it completely.

We hear about corruption all the time with regard to illegal activity but isn't this simply "legal" corruption? At the very least there's a vested interest to keep people addicted to this killer.

You're right that many of those paying the confiscatory tax on tobacco cannot really afford it.

The whole damn thing is pretty sad...
While profit is a "fundamentally sound motivator," not all profits are made in a fundamentally ethical way. Profits as well as taxes can be illegitimate or unethical.
The fact that the Big Tobacco companies are in business for profit does not release them from the responsibilities and liabilities they incur by marketing a dangerous and addictive substance.

Big Government, on the other hand, is simply legalizing theft and then calling it a tax. The taxes on tobacco products do not aid the addict or even really penalize the tobacco companies. They simply fill the coffers of a self-feeding, self-sustaining bureaucracy.

The bottom line, however, is that each individual is responsible for his or her own actions. Most people, but not all, who start using tobacco know it is an addictive and a life-threatening substance. There are very few who start using the stuff while being unaware of those facts.

We do not need Big Tobacco. Nor do we need Big Government. Both are equally destructive in their own dominions. Unfortunately, it's not too difficult to discover that those dominions overlap considerably.

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #306 on: July 01, 2011, 08:57:00 AM »
Quote from: noonelikesaquitter
Quote from: Leahy16
Quote from: rebeldog
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: iuchewie
New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..
Hey now, the native American Indian population successfully thrived on tobacco, even to this dayÂ…err, oh never mind. :unsure:
Now isn't this convenient that the rules for reporting were changed in the recent past? This illustrates the "partnership" between big tobacco and the govt that I discussed a couple weeks ago (below) with a nice little added twist. Relaxing reporting requirements for a "regulated" product is remarkably helpful when the company wants to launch a new product (errr, campaign to addict new customers) that includes more of the addictive substance. That's just great...
Quote from: Leahy16
Tobacco companies evil??? Maybe. They certainly operate within an interesting environment. I fault the Federal Govt at least as much. Big tobacco is motivated by profit for it's shareholders, a fundamentally sound motivator, whereas the Govt is profiting from this product and yet forcing the companies to warn consumers not to use it....huh??? WTF? The govt talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Doesn't the govt actually profit more, per pack of cigarettes in the form of tax, than the tobacco companies make? Wow! That's quite a business arrangement. The Fed has NO exposure to liability for a product that kills millions of its citizens, a product that same govt profits from. Oh, and let's not forget the govt (granted it was the states) also were successful in suing big tobacco for billions of their profits for medical costs. ERRRR, isn't that money just coming from the opposite side of the balance sheet.

Isn't the Fed just a business partner of Big tobacco???

Here's a question for you...At what point does this business become the responsibility of the govt? The tax on the product continues to increase...isn't there a point at which the govt essentially owns it.

If it looks like shit, and smells like shit, and tastes like shit, then....it's probably shit!!!
I agree with you on this one Leahy.

Guys here rail on Big Tobacco for being evil, and campaigning straight to kids, etc. Is it a business I could be in? No.

BUT...

I don't fault those guys for being in it. I DO think that our politicians are even MORE liable than Big Tobacco. Everyone knows this shit kills. It just kills really, really slowly.

Up here in Maine, they just raised the tax ANOTHER $1 PER PACK on cigs. Two things that I say to myself: 1. Who does that REALLY hurt? (A: The poor fuckers that are addicted, and will probably buys smokes over milk) and 2. Where does that money go? (A: To the dirty fucking politician sitting in DC...so HE (or she) can ride around on my dime fucking up my country with stupid laws.)

No the problem is, once you get in the Prohibition business...well, we've seen where that goes.

My solution? Get Gov't out of it. Of course, that's pretty much my solution to everything...so....there it is.
I'm with you...get govt out of it completely.

We hear about corruption all the time with regard to illegal activity but isn't this simply "legal" corruption? At the very least there's a vested interest to keep people addicted to this killer.

You're right that many of those paying the confiscatory tax on tobacco cannot really afford it.

The whole damn thing is pretty sad...
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #305 on: July 01, 2011, 08:30:00 AM »
Quote from: Leahy16
Quote from: rebeldog
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: iuchewie
New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..
Hey now, the native American Indian population successfully thrived on tobacco, even to this dayÂ…err, oh never mind. :unsure:
Now isn't this convenient that the rules for reporting were changed in the recent past? This illustrates the "partnership" between big tobacco and the govt that I discussed a couple weeks ago (below) with a nice little added twist. Relaxing reporting requirements for a "regulated" product is remarkably helpful when the company wants to launch a new product (errr, campaign to addict new customers) that includes more of the addictive substance. That's just great...
Quote from: Leahy16
Tobacco companies evil??? Maybe. They certainly operate within an interesting environment. I fault the Federal Govt at least as much. Big tobacco is motivated by profit for it's shareholders, a fundamentally sound motivator, whereas the Govt is profiting from this product and yet forcing the companies to warn consumers not to use it....huh??? WTF? The govt talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Doesn't the govt actually profit more, per pack of cigarettes in the form of tax, than the tobacco companies make? Wow! That's quite a business arrangement. The Fed has NO exposure to liability for a product that kills millions of its citizens, a product that same govt profits from. Oh, and let's not forget the govt (granted it was the states) also were successful in suing big tobacco for billions of their profits for medical costs. ERRRR, isn't that money just coming from the opposite side of the balance sheet.

Isn't the Fed just a business partner of Big tobacco???

Here's a question for you...At what point does this business become the responsibility of the govt? The tax on the product continues to increase...isn't there a point at which the govt essentially owns it.

If it looks like shit, and smells like shit, and tastes like shit, then....it's probably shit!!!
I agree with you on this one Leahy.

Guys here rail on Big Tobacco for being evil, and campaigning straight to kids, etc. Is it a business I could be in? No.

BUT...

I don't fault those guys for being in it. I DO think that our politicians are even MORE liable than Big Tobacco. Everyone knows this shit kills. It just kills really, really slowly.

Up here in Maine, they just raised the tax ANOTHER $1 PER PACK on cigs. Two things that I say to myself: 1. Who does that REALLY hurt? (A: The poor fuckers that are addicted, and will probably buys smokes over milk) and 2. Where does that money go? (A: To the dirty fucking politician sitting in DC...so HE (or she) can ride around on my dime fucking up my country with stupid laws.)

No the problem is, once you get in the Prohibition business...well, we've seen where that goes.

My solution? Get Gov't out of it. Of course, that's pretty much my solution to everything...so....there it is.
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #304 on: July 01, 2011, 07:10:00 AM »
Quote from: rebeldog
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: iuchewie
New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..
Hey now, the native American Indian population successfully thrived on tobacco, even to this dayÂ…err, oh never mind. :unsure:
Now isn't this convenient that the rules for reporting were changed in the recent past? This illustrates the "partnership" between big tobacco and the govt that I discussed a couple weeks ago (below) with a nice little added twist. Relaxing reporting requirements for a "regulated" product is remarkably helpful when the company wants to launch a new product (errr, campaign to addict new customers) that includes more of the addictive substance. That's just great...
Quote from: Leahy16
Tobacco companies evil??? Maybe. They certainly operate within an interesting environment. I fault the Federal Govt at least as much. Big tobacco is motivated by profit for it's shareholders, a fundamentally sound motivator, whereas the Govt is profiting from this product and yet forcing the companies to warn consumers not to use it....huh??? WTF? The govt talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Doesn't the govt actually profit more, per pack of cigarettes in the form of tax, than the tobacco companies make? Wow! That's quite a business arrangement. The Fed has NO exposure to liability for a product that kills millions of its citizens, a product that same govt profits from. Oh, and let's not forget the govt (granted it was the states) also were successful in suing big tobacco for billions of their profits for medical costs. ERRRR, isn't that money just coming from the opposite side of the balance sheet.

Isn't the Fed just a business partner of Big tobacco???

Here's a question for you...At what point does this business become the responsibility of the govt? The tax on the product continues to increase...isn't there a point at which the govt essentially owns it.

If it looks like shit, and smells like shit, and tastes like shit, then....it's probably shit!!!
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #303 on: June 30, 2011, 02:15:00 PM »
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: iuchewie
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Quote from: iuchewie
New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..
Hey now, the native American Indian population successfully thrived on tobacco, even to this dayÂ…err, oh never mind. :unsure:
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #302 on: June 30, 2011, 01:43:00 PM »
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New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
'bang head'

Amazing they can still sell that shit. Everyone knows the consequences. WTF..

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #301 on: June 30, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #300 on: June 29, 2011, 01:57:00 PM »
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New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/06/a-letter-to-the-cdc/
Fuel for my anger at and utter contempt for the pushers........ :angry:
Amazing that they can get away with this shit isn't it?
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #299 on: June 29, 2011, 11:34:00 AM »
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New blog post: A Letter To The CDC
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #298 on: June 29, 2011, 11:14:00 AM »
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #297 on: June 27, 2011, 09:05:00 PM »
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i read those pages last week. was just curious if there was something a bit more detailed.
It's different for everyone.

For me, I had a good 60-90 days of jaw/mouth issues on a "regular" basis. Then once I hit the hall I'd have an "episode" every month or so for a good year-ish. I'm defining an episode as something "abnormal" in my mouth/throat. Call it a sore throat, fat tongue, dry throat, etc.
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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #296 on: June 27, 2011, 06:31:00 PM »
on day 12 now-haven't touched a can since. but, i do have a question. when the hell does the dry mouth go away? my tongue feels like sandpaper and i don't seem to have the saliva i used to. many of the foods taste a bit metallic as well. wtf?
This is a pretty good guideline of what's going to happen to your body.

Remember, everyone is different. I didn't have dry mouth per se, but it's pretty common. I would take this opportunity to drink more water. Taste buds are off. You've been destroying the inside of your mouth for 36 years. It's going to take some time for your body and brain to get back to 'normal' - which, by the way, you can't even remember what 'normal' is after 36 years.

Here are some more things to look forward to.

Just remember, you ARE doing this! Each day is another brick in your quit foundation. Make it strong. BE strong.

Let me know if I can help you out. Good quittin with you bro.

i read those pages last week. was just curious if there was something a bit more detailed.

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #295 on: June 27, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »
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First Post-I quit last night.  today really sux, but i'm doing this after 36 years of chewing-what the hell.
Go to the Welcome Center.

Read #4. Read #4. Read #4 again.

Then Read #3.

Then get your ass over to September 2011 Quit Group and post Roll Call.

Welcome to the site.
Welcome to the freak show.

Best decision you EVER made!

You can do this.
smile. :) Congrats. Lets make this quit successful ... 1 day at a time. Let me or another help you if you need it. Just halla.
Welcome Fuckchew!!!! Get your big boy pants on hang on for the ride of your life!!! With this site you can FucK chew for good!!!! I chewed or smoked for as long as you did and I am over 1,000 days quit - One day at a time!!! Quitting will probably be the hardest thing you will ever do BUt is damn well WORTH It to get that shit out of your life!!!!!!!! Congrats on a great decision! If you need anything or someone to rant at PM me
on day 12 now-haven't touched a can since. but, i do have a question. when the hell does the dry mouth go away? my tongue feels like sandpaper and i don't seem to have the saliva i used to. many of the foods taste a bit metallic as well. wtf?
This is a pretty good guideline of what's going to happen to your body.

Remember, everyone is different. I didn't have dry mouth per se, but it's pretty common. I would take this opportunity to drink more water. Taste buds are off. You've been destroying the inside of your mouth for 36 years. It's going to take some time for your body and brain to get back to 'normal' - which, by the way, you can't even remember what 'normal' is after 36 years.

Here are some more things to look forward to.

Just remember, you ARE doing this! Each day is another brick in your quit foundation. Make it strong. BE strong.

Let me know if I can help you out. Good quittin with you bro.
What is your major malfunction?!?!?!?!

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #294 on: June 27, 2011, 11:51:00 AM »
Quote from: kdip
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: noonelikesaquitter
Quote from: loot
Quote from: fuckchew
First Post-I quit last night.  today really sux, but i'm doing this after 36 years of chewing-what the hell.
Go to the Welcome Center.

Read #4. Read #4. Read #4 again.

Then Read #3.

Then get your ass over to September 2011 Quit Group and post Roll Call.

Welcome to the site.
Welcome to the freak show.

Best decision you EVER made!

You can do this.
smile. :) Congrats. Lets make this quit successful ... 1 day at a time. Let me or another help you if you need it. Just halla.
Welcome Fuckchew!!!! Get your big boy pants on hang on for the ride of your life!!! With this site you can FucK chew for good!!!! I chewed or smoked for as long as you did and I am over 1,000 days quit - One day at a time!!! Quitting will probably be the hardest thing you will ever do BUt is damn well WORTH It to get that shit out of your life!!!!!!!! Congrats on a great decision! If you need anything or someone to rant at PM me
on day 12 now-haven't touched a can since. but, i do have a question. when the hell does the dry mouth go away? my tongue feels like sandpaper and i don't seem to have the saliva i used to. many of the foods taste a bit metallic as well. wtf?

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Re: General Discussion - 2011
« Reply #293 on: June 27, 2011, 09:38:00 AM »
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whats the general consensus of the fake dip/chew products? good idea or bad idea?
If it works for you, that's fine. Leverage all the tools at your disposal, as long as there is no nicotine involved.

For me, seeds and gum have done the trick. But the fake stuff is fine. If you stick a tablespoon of dirt in your mouth nobody would consider it a failure (it would be nasty, but not a failure). Do what it takes. Just don't let the nic bitch in.
I agree, as long as it works for you, do it. It has helped me, but the longer I go, the less appealing it seems. Helped for the first few days though.
A post from the KTC blog from long ago that gives you my answer: http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/
This was one of the first articles I read a few months ago when I altavista'd "herbal snuff" and found out about KTC and QSX.

A month or two of lurking and then I became a man when I put down the can.
Re-born on date: 06/09/2011