General Discussion - 2018

[wastokes91]

HELP!!! Biggest problem I'm having with my quit so far is not having something in my mouth. I have tried gum, toothpicks, seeds, etc. none of that cures the itch. I just recently found out they make tobacco and nicotine free dip but all of the ones I've tried have been super dry. The biggest thing for me is finding something that will produce enough saliva to spit like I used to. I prefer the pouches but am not opposed to "long cut" suggestions. THANK YOU!!!

[Idaho Spuds]

Does anyone have any tips on waking up without a dip to look forward to?
I am usually a professional getter-upper, but when My brain knows it wonÂ’t be getting its morning dose of nicotine it falls back to sleep without a second thought!
Convinced myself into buying dip today because of this, but itÂ’s only prolonging the pain 'Kiss'

I know how you're feeling man. My trick to help with the morning craves was to replace my morning nicotine dose with a caffeine dose. While a cup of coffee in the morning doesn't start out being nearly as satisfying as a morning chew, it definitely starts to grow on you. I'm only 15 days into my quit and I can tell you right now that the caffiene in the morning has 100% helped with my cravings. Give it a shot, maybe it'll work for you.

There is a time, when we romanticise chewing and think an activity might be better with a chew in. Eventually, you will do these activities and realize that you can enjoy and do these without a chew.

Then you will begin to break free of worrying about when you will buy the next can, if you have enough with you and if you leave it around the house will the wife find it.
Then you will replace it with something positive, your blood pressure will improve, your gums and teeth will heal, your risk of cancer will begin to decrease and you will save money.
Then you will realize that you hate chew and nicotine, that you were a slave to it, you wasted time, money and your health.

Then the romantic thoughts were just a trick to keep you suckling at the teet of big tobacco.

[Cereal]

Does anyone have any tips on waking up without a dip to look forward to?
I am usually a professional getter-upper, but when My brain knows it wonÂ’t be getting its morning dose of nicotine it falls back to sleep without a second thought!
Convinced myself into buying dip today because of this, but itÂ’s only prolonging the pain 'Kiss'

I know how you're feeling man. My trick to help with the morning craves was to replace my morning nicotine dose with a caffeine dose. While a cup of coffee in the morning doesn't start out being nearly as satisfying as a morning chew, it definitely starts to grow on you. I'm only 15 days into my quit and I can tell you right now that the caffiene in the morning has 100% helped with my cravings. Give it a shot, maybe it'll work for you.

[Athan]

So I'm at the Tractor Supply and the guy in front of me has to tilt his head back to speak to this cute little checkout girl so as to avoid dumping a mouthful of chew slobber all over her counter.
Her expression was priceless. I know I projected something along the lines of "hey dumbass, you might have gotten her number were you not gurgling beetlejuice!"

It is absolutely staggering to view the insanity of this addiction from the outside.

Ain't nothing like FREEDOM!

[Athan]

Mind over matter you think?
ThereÂ’s a BILLION DOLLAR industry that wants you to think just that.
TheyÂ’re hoping, no praying, that you donÂ’t figure out that youÂ’re dealing with addiction; that you wonÂ’t figure out the cravings you have are because they have physiologically rewired your brain to do just that.
TheyÂ’re banking on you wallowing in ignorance and succumbing to the can.
Their business plan hinges on you NOT calling someone when the next wave hits.
Hey, whaddaya say, how bout we blow up their business plan!

[KevintheCactus]

Yeah IÂ’ve taken breaks for a good while but when I give in I give in hard. ItÂ’s time to stop the nonsense though once and for all.
I made some “pouches” today with molasses and cheap black tea. Tomorrow’s the big day...

[Athan]

Does anyone have any tips on waking up without a dip to look forward to?
I am usually a professional getter-upper, but when My brain knows it wonÂ’t be getting its morning dose of nicotine it falls back to sleep without a second thought!
Convinced myself into buying dip today because of this, but itÂ’s only prolonging the pain 'Kiss'

I've been crunching on cinnamon sticks. I get 'em in bulk at sams or costco. It works for me. There's some fake stuff out there that some of the guys use. Try some, see what works for you.
Surely you're not saying you can't quit, even for one day?
Even three pack a day smokers can quit for a single day.
Got a guy fix'n to post 100 days and he did 3 cans of grizz a day.

Edmund Hilary and Tenzig Norgay climbed Mount Everest.
They did it one step at a time.
That's how we quit here - one day at a time.

[pureblood]

Does anyone have any tips on waking up without a dip to look forward to?
I am usually a professional getter-upper, but when My brain knows it wonÂ’t be getting its morning dose of nicotine it falls back to sleep without a second thought!
Convinced myself into buying dip today because of this, but itÂ’s only prolonging the pain 'Kiss'

Hi Kevin,
Join a group, post up and try to get involved. It helps. I use coffee and fat burners to replace the nicotine buzz, it helps too. Toss the dip and jump in. If I can be of any help, please feel free to PM me, good luck dude.

[KevintheCactus]

Does anyone have any tips on waking up without a dip to look forward to?
I am usually a professional getter-upper, but when My brain knows it wonÂ’t be getting its morning dose of nicotine it falls back to sleep without a second thought!
Convinced myself into buying dip today because of this, but itÂ’s only prolonging the pain 'Kiss'

[Samrs]

I need help guys. I feel like such a piece of shit. I’ve tried to quit, I’ve bought fake dip, I told myself I wouldn’t dip after my son turned two. Guess what, I dipped the very next day. I’ve even gone so far as to hide my dip in Smokey mountain tins from my wife. What kind of man does that? My son turned to me the other day and said “bye dadda bye” and the only thing I could think of is him saying that with me in the hospital. I need help guys. My number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX please contact me if you feel it will help.

Archer - I edited your post to remove your number. Share digits her via PM (private message - the "Inbox" link in the upper right hand corner of the page), please - we don't want your phone number showing up in random web searches for any troll to find.

That said - get over to the August quit group, post roll and get connected with your fellow quitters. You don't need to do this alone.

[DonkeyMN]

I need help guys. I feel like such a piece of shit. I’ve tried to quit, I’ve bought fake dip, I told myself I wouldn’t dip after my son turned two. Guess what, I dipped the very next day. I’ve even gone so far as to hide my dip in Smokey mountain tins from my wife. What kind of man does that? My son turned to me the other day and said “bye dadda bye” and the only thing I could think of is him saying that with me in the hospital. I need help guys. My number is xxx-xxx-xxxx please contact me if you feel it will help.

Your help is here, with accountability from others. You need to want to quit and make that the biggest part of your life. Bigger than your son, wife, etc. Take 100 days of your life and go on this journey. This is for you.

Join a group, August 2018 Pre-HOF ---click it!

And we share numbers via PM here, dont put yours out on the interwebs for creepers to get.

[Archer723]

I need help guys. I feel like such a piece of shit. I’ve tried to quit, I’ve bought fake dip, I told myself I wouldn’t dip after my son turned two. Guess what, I dipped the very next day. I’ve even gone so far as to hide my dip in Smokey mountain tins from my wife. What kind of man does that? My son turned to me the other day and said “bye dadda bye” and the only thing I could think of is him saying that with me in the hospital. I need help guys. My number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX please contact me if you feel it will help.

[Leonidas]

I cannot remember exactly what happened to cause me to want to take a dip in those times. I can remember some times in the past however. A lot of times it has to do with a customer's negative attitude/aura at the store I work at. Someone comes in with an entitled attitude. Or someone comes in that I do not quite trust and I can tell they are not sneaky in the sense of trying to get over on you. The type of people who will try to pull the wool over your eyes to get you to trust them. The type of people that steal from stores while the whole time laughing and smiling in your face to get you trust them. Those situations really get to me. It is so frustrating the idea of people stealing and lying, and not having remorse for it. It is one thing to steal and then feel great remorse for it. It is another thing completely different to not feel remorse, guilt, or shame over it. It bothers me so bad that there are people out there like it. I'm 23 years old and I've just now come to understanding the sheer amount of dishonesty that exists in the world. I've been working retail for four years now. At first it was a big experience and shock getting to see the amount of people that will just completely lie to your face with no guilt and no shame. It is the type of thing that really drives me up a wall. At times I can even take it personally. Like I feel I have some sort of specific personal obligation to try to stop them from stealing from the store I work at. I mean, of course I do from the perspective of being a worker there (all the responsibilities that come with working at a place) but I venture into it so deeply that I take it personal.

It's crazy how I can be in such a great mood and then have that great mood completely ruined just by witnessing someone who doesn't have integrity/scruples. I can sense it off of them from the way they look and act. They'll laugh in your face and the whole time they'll be trying to get over on you as well. And then feel no shame over it. It is downright maddening.

Why is this going on here, and not in your group?
Pull your head out,
get over to your new group,
get involved,
and just quit.

[gottadoit3]

I cannot remember exactly what happened to cause me to want to take a dip in those times. I can remember some times in the past however. A lot of times it has to do with a customer's negative attitude/aura at the store I work at. Someone comes in with an entitled attitude. Or someone comes in that I do not quite trust and I can tell they are not sneaky in the sense of trying to get over on you. The type of people who will try to pull the wool over your eyes to get you to trust them. The type of people that steal from stores while the whole time laughing and smiling in your face to get you trust them. Those situations really get to me. It is so frustrating the idea of people stealing and lying, and not having remorse for it. It is one thing to steal and then feel great remorse for it. It is another thing completely different to not feel remorse, guilt, or shame over it. It bothers me so bad that there are people out there like it. I'm 23 years old and I've just now come to understanding the sheer amount of dishonesty that exists in the world. I've been working retail for four years now. At first it was a big experience and shock getting to see the amount of people that will just completely lie to your face with no guilt and no shame. It is the type of thing that really drives me up a wall. At times I can even take it personally. Like I feel I have some sort of specific personal obligation to try to stop them from stealing from the store I work at. I mean, of course I do from the perspective of being a worker there (all the responsibilities that come with working at a place) but I venture into it so deeply that I take it personal.

It's crazy how I can be in such a great mood and then have that great mood completely ruined just by witnessing someone who doesn't have integrity/scruples. I can sense it off of them from the way they look and act. They'll laugh in your face and the whole time they'll be trying to get over on you as well. And then feel no shame over it. It is downright maddening.

[bojax]

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Basically the three questions that provoke introspection on why you told Sept '17 to fuck off and broke your word to us. I just posted a 312 and here you are back at Day 1. That's gotta suck and I hope it does.

1. What happened that you broke your promise to us and decided to pick up a can?

I can't recall the details at this point but I took a dip.

2. Why did it happen?

I really wanted a dip

3. What are you going to do differently?

Not take a dip. Not miss roll. Not be so quick to give up. Drink more water, exercise. Don't drink alcohol. Chew gum when I want to. Use soda if I have to. Be ready for triggers and learn to ride them out. Think about my reasons for quitting hard when I want to cave. Talk to fellow members in order to create more accountability for myself and other people

4. Do you REALLY want to quit? It's 10:00 CST now and you're not on roll yet. Wake up, piss post...it doesn't look like you're serious.

Of course I am serious. Piss post... what makes you say that that's interesting

You can come back from this but you have to want it. July '18 AND Sept '17 will need your answers to these questions posted.
Broc

Are you saying to post them in those threads?

That's the biggest bunch of bullshit ever. I can't remember and I'm not going to even think about it, but I wanted a dip, so I took a dip. What the fuck? You weren't involved last time. Whose number did you have? Who did you call? Why did you cave other than because you're a fucking pussy? Think about your answers and try again.

you "Can't recall the details" why you caved? Was that the one you were clean for 4 months? because I remember every reason I caved in the past and my memory is pretty shit. You "really wanted a dip", so you mean your pansy ass will cave at the slightest crave? Bro those are shit answers and nobody is gonna invest time on someone who wont invest effort on themselves. We are here to help you win but you gotta fucking take this shit seriously. With those answers I automatically don't trust you to have my back. Those questions are to help you, if you can't take some introspection seriously how are you going to learn from your mistakes? How are you going to avoid failing like last time? Or are you just gonna be a pansy ass little bitch and cave when that monkey on your back starts hammering? Cause I can assure you that monkey is one big fat fucking cunt of a gorilla, and if you are gonna cave because you "wanted dip" then you're not gonna be able to cut it when a friend dies, you have to put your dog down, or when you and your wife have a huge argument and you get kicked out of the house and are staying on a friends couch thinking your life and your marriage are over.

So, once more

What happened that you broke your promise to us and decided to pick up a can?

Why did it happen?

What is your ass gonna do to not be a fucking loser pansy ass caving bitch this time?

Put some real thought into these questions, I am totally willing to be in your corner if you can just man up and decide you wanna win. But you gotta put some effort in because you've already proven your word means shit, so tell me why I should believe you this time when you post a day 1 or a day 30 or day 190.

WOW. Just Wow.  I don't usually chime in on the answers to these questions but I've never seen any quite this bad.

I would not give a bit of support to this guy until he can come up with something a little better than "I really wanted a dip"

Which of us here at some point didn't really want a dip?

Don't worry, unless he puts a little effort into this, he wont be here long