This Time Is For Real

[pab1964]

Posted in Oct 14 on March 18 2015

Who's In For 300?

Jeeptruck!!!!!!, BoneDiddley, Lours, Bumptex, Coach, trireb31 , Southpaw32, *****FLAW4MOD2015!!!*****, canless2014, Flaw, CDub27, Bam, DH10, GoDogs559, AquaDipper, swetty; FMBM707, AClowroller , Beef o Brady, TSJ12b, RainFire, Lim and lucifer, clairmontblues, GheyestQuittahtex, piercejt, ColoradoProud, CarlyRaeTex,Thatcher and Thutchi , RB1,JB24, umwolff, Brandt9913, GoDogs559, david.M, Candoit, BigRed, Brian85, Spitball, SuperBoneTwo of the former members had their names on that list for promising that they were in this for another 100 days. And they caved because they didn't not have the testituclar (ovarian) fortitude to power through or enough pride to put the ego aside and ask for help.

But more important than that they forgot what that promise meant to themselves and to us. When we all posted our day 1's we had no idea what to expect or even if this would work. That promise to not to use nic for 24 hours, then we repeat. For many of us the fact the promise was for 24 hours made it doable, achievable, and realistic. As the days have past we have forgotten that this promise only lasts for 24 hours, and we need to make it every day for a reason.

Today may be easy, but we have no idea what tomorrow may bring. That I may be at the summit today, but tomorrow I could be back feeling like I am at day 1. That is life, but the fact I am a man of my word, and made my promise first thing in the morning, by posting on roll I will honor it today. That is why I will always make my promise.

They lost sight of what it means to post roll here every damn day, it is because of the accountability it gives us, which creates the brotherhood, which made us all successful. But that was built one day, one promise, at a time. Therefore it has to be practiced and used the same way in order to maintain it.

While we all need to focus on fixing the other parts of our lives that were on hold while we regained control, we can not forget that it was the daily promise and investment in each other that allowed to be in control again.

I can control today, I can not change yesterday, or know what tomorrow will bring. So I am making my promise for today, with all of you not to use for any reason.

Please consider what putting your name on roll  in the header means to you, because you still need to be willing to fight like hell to honor your word. The battle looks different but it is the same war.

I'll drink to that...

Candoit you're a good man! You work hard for what you stand for. ..the QUIT my friend! Damn proud to be quit with you today my brother!

[Rawls]

Posted in Oct 14 on March 18 2015

Who's In For 300?

Jeeptruck!!!!!!, BoneDiddley, Lours, Bumptex, Coach, trireb31 , Southpaw32, *****FLAW4MOD2015!!!*****, canless2014, Flaw, CDub27, Bam, DH10, GoDogs559, AquaDipper, swetty; FMBM707, AClowroller , Beef o Brady, TSJ12b, RainFire, Lim and lucifer, clairmontblues, GheyestQuittahtex, piercejt, ColoradoProud, CarlyRaeTex,Thatcher and Thutchi , RB1,JB24, umwolff, Brandt9913, GoDogs559, david.M, Candoit, BigRed, Brian85, Spitball, SuperBoneTwo of the former members had their names on that list for promising that they were in this for another 100 days. And they caved because they didn't not have the testituclar (ovarian) fortitude to power through or enough pride to put the ego aside and ask for help.

But more important than that they forgot what that promise meant to themselves and to us. When we all posted our day 1's we had no idea what to expect or even if this would work. That promise to not to use nic for 24 hours, then we repeat. For many of us the fact the promise was for 24 hours made it doable, achievable, and realistic. As the days have past we have forgotten that this promise only lasts for 24 hours, and we need to make it every day for a reason.

Today may be easy, but we have no idea what tomorrow may bring. That I may be at the summit today, but tomorrow I could be back feeling like I am at day 1. That is life, but the fact I am a man of my word, and made my promise first thing in the morning, by posting on roll I will honor it today. That is why I will always make my promise.

They lost sight of what it means to post roll here every damn day, it is because of the accountability it gives us, which creates the brotherhood, which made us all successful. But that was built one day, one promise, at a time. Therefore it has to be practiced and used the same way in order to maintain it.

While we all need to focus on fixing the other parts of our lives that were on hold while we regained control, we can not forget that it was the daily promise and investment in each other that allowed to be in control again.

I can control today, I can not change yesterday, or know what tomorrow will bring. So I am making my promise for today, with all of you not to use for any reason.

Please consider what putting your name on roll  in the header means to you, because you still need to be willing to fight like hell to honor your word. The battle looks different but it is the same war.

I'll drink to that...

[Candoit]

Posted in Oct 14 on March 18 2015

Who's In For 300?

Jeeptruck!!!!!!, BoneDiddley, Lours, Bumptex, Coach, trireb31 , Southpaw32, *****FLAW4MOD2015!!!*****, canless2014, Flaw, CDub27, Bam, DH10, GoDogs559, AquaDipper, swetty; FMBM707, AClowroller , Beef o Brady, TSJ12b, RainFire, Lim and lucifer, clairmontblues, GheyestQuittahtex, piercejt, ColoradoProud, CarlyRaeTex,Thatcher and Thutchi , RB1,JB24, umwolff, Brandt9913, GoDogs559, david.M, Candoit, BigRed, Brian85, Spitball, SuperBoneTwo of the former members had their names on that list for promising that they were in this for another 100 days. And they caved because they didn't not have the testituclar (ovarian) fortitude to power through or enough pride to put the ego aside and ask for help.

But more important than that they forgot what that promise meant to themselves and to us. When we all posted our day 1's we had no idea what to expect or even if this would work. That promise to not to use nic for 24 hours, then we repeat. For many of us the fact the promise was for 24 hours made it doable, achievable, and realistic. As the days have past we have forgotten that this promise only lasts for 24 hours, and we need to make it every day for a reason.

Today may be easy, but we have no idea what tomorrow may bring. That I may be at the summit today, but tomorrow I could be back feeling like I am at day 1. That is life, but the fact I am a man of my word, and made my promise first thing in the morning, by posting on roll I will honor it today. That is why I will always make my promise.

They lost sight of what it means to post roll here every damn day, it is because of the accountability it gives us, which creates the brotherhood, which made us all successful. But that was built one day, one promise, at a time. Therefore it has to be practiced and used the same way in order to maintain it.

While we all need to focus on fixing the other parts of our lives that were on hold while we regained control, we can not forget that it was the daily promise and investment in each other that allowed to be in control again.

I can control today, I can not change yesterday, or know what tomorrow will bring. So I am making my promise for today, with all of you not to use for any reason.

Please consider what putting your name on roll  in the header means to you, because you still need to be willing to fight like hell to honor your word. The battle looks different but it is the same war.

[danojeno]

Rule #1 No leaving ever.

Why?

We are addicts, we are never cured. Being here and accountable is the only way any of us have been successful. We lie straight to the face of our loved ones. What makes you think that will change?

We call you on your bullshit, becuase we know it, they don't.

Everyone here get's butthurt from time to time. But that is no reason to walk away. The only person that hurts is you. You came here to quit, everything else is a bonus.

Remember:
There is no such thing as cured. Cured is the nic bitches biggest lie.

Pretty timely shit right there. Thanks for the effort you put into the quit, it oozes all over the place.

[Candoit]

Rule #1 No leaving ever.

Why?

We are addicts, we are never cured. Being here and accountable is the only way any of us have been successful. We lied straight to the faces of our loved ones, repeatedly. What makes you think that will change?

We call you on your bullshit, because we know it, they don't.

Everyone here get's butt hurt from time to time. But that is no reason to walk away. The only person that hurts is you. You came here to quit, everything else is a bonus.

There is no such thing as cured. Cured is the nic bitches biggest lie.

[Vguy]

Today is 79 days in to being Nic Free. I think about the past 15 days of my quit, and oh how have I changed.

This morning I was pissed about stupid shit at work, like I need to be next to my office phone to make calls. But the phone was moved on Monday to my new office, upstairs from the basement (old office), but found out they never moved my desk, and it was not being moved till oh next Wednesday. So what did i do I got a hand truck and moved my desk my self (no elevators). So I was also dealing with a pissy client that I didn't return emails or the phone calls from yesterday. He called me at 7:00 pm and emailed at 11 pm, and by the way he is not paying the 750 per day fee for my services, this is all for free. I go back to day 50 this would of derailed my entire day, go back to day 25 I would of stayed home to protect the quit, and 25 days before that, I would of gone for a coffee run (packed a fat lip full of cancer seed) come back switched to ninja mode and gut it for about the next 3 hours, till I was back in the car. But chatting with a Titian of Quit October 2014, I realized that about a year ago I was in a 4+ hour lock down, when a "gun man" was spotted on Yale campus. At the time I was working in a school in the area, due to its proximity it was locked down. What did that mean? It was part of my job to sweep the halls and ensure all students are in classrooms and all doors are locked, then I shelter in place. I ended up in an empty classroom for the entire time. So what did I do, well i drained the cell battery and then lamented about how I didn't have a tin with me, it was in my bag in my office. I was pissed that I had time to kill, an empty classroom, and even better an empty coffee cup. But the best part of this story, I had to shit in a trash can, because it happened from 11 am to 4 pm. Right before lunch, plus as a teacher you only have a 15 to 30 minute window of time to shit or talk to adults per day. But i was more upset that I didn't have my can of mint flavored cancer turds on me, then shitting in a trash can or a possible "gun man" on the loose. It turned out that it was a hoax called in from a pay phone (this happened in 2013 Google it).

But I digress about that incident a year ago. I was a teacher and I was being used for my skills and talents, but continually passed over for the leadership roles, because of who/what I was. I blamed it on a lot of things, but I knew there was a glass ceiling and it was time to leave. I left the classroom in December of 2013. This was one the hardest choices I made, but it was the right one. Why? I think back to what I was doing and how I got to where I was, it was because I pushed the envelope I was not complacent, I always risking, pushing the edge of comfort for myself and the students. I embraced failure, I created a culture of failure, I forced my students to fail, I taught failure, and I was damn good at it.

A culture of failure, is not living life as a failure, but how do I react when I do fail, how do I move on, how do I deal with it mentally, how do I seek help for what I do not know, how do I recognize that which I do not know, and how to I not fail at the same thing twice. I do not care what subject a teacher teach's, but if they are not teaching how to deal with failure through the content, they are doing nothing more than wasting time. I cared more about learning how to teach hard work, self reliance, self esteem, and pride than I did chemistry. Chemistry was the mechanism in which I could set up controlled failures to teach them how to trouble shoot, have faith in themselves. I always started the year off, with a lab that would never work or give them what the "book said it would" Why? Because they all doubted themselves, not the directions or the book. Even if they responded correctly, I always asked are you sure? Why? Because if you really trusted yourself and didn't look at the teacher as the wise sage on the stage, you would push back at the positional authority and stand up because you know it is right.

Chemistry is hard for many reasons, but the largest is that we study atoms and their behavior. That isn't hard, what is hard is that we observed the large scale interactions (macro scale) and from that we deduce what is going on at the atomic scale. So why is that relevant, well it is completely reverse of the way we learn all other subjects. We observe the effect from that we figure out the cause.
Here's the example I always used:
"Describe the wind?"
Could you answer that? Right now, no Google, no phone a friend, no text, no book, just your thinking and completely justify it with concrete examples and numerical data? I would wager that the majority of you would say it is something moving, like leaves or a tree or trash, or a house in Kansas. But you all gave me examples of effects not causes. That is how chemistry works, we see the effects and from there have to figure out the reasons.

But a year ago I realized I no longer was that teacher that embraced a culture of failure or deep logical thinking and conversation. I stopped because I had become disenfranchised. I had a choice I can take a risk and fail, or become the teacher that has lost the passion. I took the risk with the full knowledge I could fail, I was fine with that. I couldn't go in planning to fail, but I go in aware that it could happen and I will do everything I can to ensure it doesn't happen.

79 days ago, July 23, 2014, I took another risk knowing full well that I have failed every time I tried before. But i knew I had i to do it differently, so I joined and posted roll. This has been one hell of a risk for me, to put your faith in a complete group of strangers and hope that this works based on the stories and words posted here. But how is that different than walking into a new school, or the 1st day of a new school year?

Everyone always asks the same three questions of the teacher/professor/BAQ they just meet:

1) Who are you?
2) Why should I listen to you?
3) Why should I care?

If you fail to answer any of these questions by the end of the first interaction, then you are done. I don't care who you are, you may not realize it or even consciously think about it, but you do ask these questions.

Why does this matter? I kept my keyboard quite last night as two groups of quitters unleashed a pissing contest all over a new quit group. Am I a proud Titian Hell Fucking Yeah I am, but at the same time what I saw turned my stomach.

Call me a special butterfly, snowflake, a fuvking ghey phag, a cocknow user, or what ever else you want to, but take the pissing some where else. I took what happened a month ago too damn personal, but now you all have stepped over the line. This is scaring a new class of quitters, who all are taking a huge risk and putting their faith and trust in all of us not just one month. ALL OF US. I am not going to point fingers at who started that or who I think should apologize, because that is not my job or my place. However, it is my place to stand up for those who do not know any better or are too scared to say something in a place they do not feel comfortable, to begin with.

I have reached out to new quitters and they are scared to use Kakao, because they see the way it is talked about here, just like the quit lite. I saw the attack on one the veterans, who was one of the first few to reach out and welcome my messed up ass here. His message was clear: Honor your word to not use nicotine today, and protect it by any means necessary.

Protect your honor by any means necessary, I forgot what that was, until today, 365 days from when I was shitting in a trash can.

I am an educator who firmly believes in teaching and supporting those who take risks. The largest part of that is teaching them how to deal with the failure, and move forward stronger and with their heads held a little higher, with pride. A large part of that lesson is owning up to the errors and consequences of the failure (this is the students part) but my part is the hardest one:
Keep my mouth shut long enough for them to let them own up and encourage them to keep moving forward.
Do I call bullshit? Yes
Do I demand more? Yes
Do I ensure that they understand what they did wrong? Yes
Am I disappointed in their choices? Yes
Am I disappointed that they knew better? Yes
Am I disappointed in myself for not doing something differently? Yes
But do I linger on it? Yes
Do I hold it against them? No

If I want to grow better people they need to be held accountable, but they also need to know that tomorrow is a new day, and that I will be their for them just as I was today. Will any of my expectations or demands change, no never.

So I am protecting my honor, and the honor of those who have yet to learn or remember what honor is, people will fail, you all failed last night at being the role models for January 2015. But know this tomorrow I will be back here, post roll, wish everyone in Kakao a good morning, text NateMcP, PrOf, FredR, and McCamno, and be waiting for my expectations of all of you to be met. And I will continue to do that every single day of my life because I choose to protect my honor and I have pride what I do.

Some interesting parallels to our discussion today! Been good to ride the first parts of your ride with you.

[Frazzled]

The almighty creator created all, in doing so he created tobacco and choice.
We all have the choice to use or quit.
We all have the choice to acknowledge or deny.
We all have the choice to remember or forget.

It is the daily choices that we make that keep us quit.

I choose to quit
I choose to use KTC
I choose to acknowledge I am an addict
I choose to deny nicotine
I choose to remember that I make the choice to quit every day
I choose to forget nothing about my past choices.

I choose to quit with you today, candoit.

[Candoit]

The almighty creator created all, in doing so he created tobacco and choice.
We all have the choice to use or quit.
We all have the choice to acknowledge or deny.
We all have the choice to remember or forget.

It is the daily choices that we make that keep us quit.

I choose to quit
I choose to use KTC
I choose to acknowledge I am an addict
I choose to deny nicotine
I choose to remember that I make the choice to quit every day
I choose to forget nothing about my past choices.

[FMBM707]

200 days ago, I choose to make a promise, not to use nicotine what so ever for today. I have repeated that promise 200 times.

200 hundred times seems impossible but it is there every day, I am 200/200 with out missing one day of making that promise. That promise has kept the can out of my hand. This works ONLY if you honor your word.

That is a big IF....
If you are a person that can honor their word
If you are a person that can put their faith in others
If you are a person that can trust others
If you are a person that can believe in others
If you are a person that can hold themselves accountable
If you are a person that can hold others to the same accountability
If you are a person that can let people help
If you are a person that can help others
If you are a person that can share in brotherhood
If you are a person that can add value by being here
If you are a person that can not use excuses to hide from the truth
If you are a person that can face the truth
If you are a person that can make a promise every day
Then ...You CAN DO IT!!!

Belated BOG CONGRATS on hitting the 2nd floor Candoit! You are a rock solid quitter and you pay it forward! Congrats on all you've accomplished and your commitment to making a change and a difference. You're setting a great example. Proud to be quit with you.

[Candoit]

200 days ago, I choose to make a promise, not to use nicotine what so ever for today. I have repeated that promise 200 times.

200 hundred times seems impossible but it is there every day, I am 200/200 with out missing one day of making that promise. That promise has kept the can out of my hand. This works ONLY if you honor your word.

That is a big IF....
If you are a person that can honor their word
If you are a person that can put their faith in others
If you are a person that can trust others
If you are a person that can believe in others
If you are a person that can hold themselves accountable
If you are a person that can hold others to the same accountability
If you are a person that can let people help
If you are a person that can help others
If you are a person that can share in brotherhood
If you are a person that can add value by being here
If you are a person that can not use excuses to hide from the truth
If you are a person that can face the truth
If you are a person that can make a promise every day
Then ...You CAN DO IT!!!

[Candoit]

Godspeed my friend.
Today may we find the wisdom in our challenges.
The inspiration from our surroundings, and the comfort in the company we keep.

[canless2014]

I quit for today
Twenty four hours I can succeed
This I can control

And then we'll do it all over tomorrow.

[Candoit]

I quit for today
Twenty four hours I can succeed
This I can control

[Candoit]

My Responses to the HOF Questions: So Ya I kinda wrote my own roast.

My Dearest Condicktors,
As I respond to your latest query about my quit historical prospective and background information about my late night jaunts with the fish-netted tranny siren of nicotine, We began our elicit love affair some time in my 13th year, this tepid relationship continued until my 18th celebration of my birth. At this point, I was no longer required to keep this relationship in the shadows, and continued until this past July, when I kicked that diva of ill-repute square in her hevous. This outburst of rage, 175,200 hours in the making, fissured our relationship to the point where I can now see clearly, that her voice makes Fran Drescher sound like Talyor Swift. It, was that point, I realized my life was controlled by a hopeless 40-something Jewish Woman from Long Island, and I was her back up plan.
This realization, that I was somehow okay with being controlled, caused me to kick that Lincoln Tunnel of Sluts to the curb. This now has allowed me to fix and build my relationships with the wife and daughters (2). However my canine companions are rather perturbed by my less frequent trips outdoors to "wax poetically" about the less finer points of life.
My ekeing out a living in this bastion of Liberalism, New Haven, Connecticut stands as a proud reminder that we all do not need to possess common sense or morals to make it ahead in life. As growing up and raising a family in such a knowledge-filled environment has given me many insights to how one can smell the bullock when you approach, count how many Yalies can outsmart, and know who is there for the long haul. While I sifted through the compost that was to become a vintage unlike any other of quitter brethren (and sistren), I found several key enlightened thinkers amongst the phallic  methane release humor, that helped the vines of quit take root, each supplying their own unique blend of fertilizer.
Lim25, who's quick (thrust) action brought me in to the fray, who's skills were no doubt honed by years of playing hide and seek with the one eyed wonder weasel; SouthPackPawCrusher who's ferrous rule of accountability withstands the test of time, like a sandcastle in a hurricane; Old Man Thomas, a brother shows how one can overcome anything, but smokes more meat than Hillshire Farms; BigRedCouch, a true ginger and the only man that can make Chuck Norris fill his britches with post digested waste; Our couple that showed all of us that true love can overcome any hurdle (or restraining order), Thutchikins and BoneInDaAss
And I dare not forget to mention The Bad Ass Mother who kept my quit on straight in the first 30 days, the wisdom imparted between mason jars and test tubes serve all Titians well. While many more Titians are a critical part of the mechanism that keeps us quit, each is a cog in the transmission of quit. Some have to be disengaged and reengaged to keep us moving forward.
As I began this retrospective of quit I would be remiss if I did not provide credit to the AAA travel agents of quit. This crackerjack team earned my five star rating, for the centennial breakfast of oatmeal and freeze dried coffee, alone. Sir Derek, McCamno, and Wastepanel all deserve a raise for their work: I have spoken to the higher ups and worked out a deal for all of you -- you are allowed to take a day off from the office on November 27th, and you will get paid. Don't thank me now, because I know you all work like I get paid: very little and once every two weeks.
Reflecting with awe and wonder of the beginning steps as I crawled from the primordial ooze of the spittoon, I often found myself reading and trying to join the conversation anyway I could. With the eagerness of a 17 year old virgin on prom night, I engaged and found my quit voice. However, as any 17 year old virgin can tell you, you strike out alot; more often than not, you finish the job in the shower.
As far as the "fun" questions go, I shall respond in some resemblance of tact and decorum.
7a.) Most bizarre place you've had sex with another? In a life guard tower.
13.) How many tattoos do you have? I have four tattoos
14.) How many do you regret getting? Zero
17.) Best president ever besides a young horseback riding Vladimir Putin? Why? Lincoln, dude had one hell of a beard, and was a bad ass that didn't quit.
21.) What's your entrance music for your next fight? Dropkick Murphy's Cadence to Arms
35.) What's the dumbest thing you've ever done that directly resulted in an injury to yourself or another? Using quads to pull sleds down unplowed streets at 45 mph that resulted in a broken hand and then we did it again and sprained an ankle. Oh my father in law was driving the quad as our wives watched.
So my condicktors of this HOF express, I hope this meets the requirements you have set forth in the obligation and request for the amassing of information of the aforementioned quitter. Namely, Candoit, aka, Mr. C, aka Candy, aka Cando, aka Candy man

[Candoit]

@ 190 days

My wife and I decide that it is time to get some decent life insurance policies. (Both whole  term). So they ask about tobacco use, with in the last year. I say yes, my wife gives me a look...I said I quit 190 days ago. The agent says congratulations and moves on. But at the end, the say okay here is a test for HIV, hard core drug, and tobacco. It will pick up any traces of tobacco use over the last six months. If it comes back positive you can retest in 6 months and your rates will go down, okay? I said not okay, if I test positive you will be cashing in both of my policies that day.... He laughed, but I was dead serious, not only would my wife kill me, but I would have an angry mob forming out side of my house.

They had to send it to a lab to be analyzed, so no news is good news. I wanted it to change colors then and there, to prove to my wife that I am quit! So just like marriage I have to hurry up and wait.