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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2014, 11:36:00 PM »
I realize that I have no posted a true introduction to who I am and what brought me to being quit. This is no short story or easy one to tell. I want to share it but the positive is that I am here to tell it.

I am one of six kids, number 5, for those that must know. I always have had the chip on my shoulder about doing things my way, and having to prove myself in other peoples eyes. This lead me to stealing my grandfather Trues from the freezer at 12 or 13 years old. I would walk down to the beach and meet "friends" there to smoke them. This lead to smoking on camp outs, then in school. At that point we still could smoke on Campus at the High School. I was a full time smoker by the end of my freshman year of HS. Then they band smoking on campus, so I found ways of sneaking a couple here and there but only used when I was hanging out with certain groups of friends off campus. Surprising it was my scouting friends, and all of punk skaters didn't use tobacco. My parents thought the opposite.

The irony in this whole story, is I was a very good runner in high school. I did Cross-Country, Outdoor Track, my high school did not have indoor so I swam. In all that time I would smoke on and off, not thinking it was anything big. But fast forward to 1.5 months before graduation, had a potential track scholarship to Fordham University, just needed to break 4:40 in the mile. The last regular season meet I went 4:41, so I had 3 meets left to get there, the next practice I suffered a 3/4 partial tear of the Achilles Tendon. There goes my chances of the scholarship, so what the hell do I have to look forward to? So I started smoking full time, while I figured what the next step will be. So I decided that I would go to the small D2 school in the fall, I applied 1 week before graduation. Said that I would swim to rehab and try to be a walk on as a sophomore at Fordham.

During the 5 years I spent as an undergrad. I became not only addicted to skoal and alcohol but experimented with drugs from across the spectrum. I ended up in a lot of situations that I am not proud of, nor should anyone else. Some how some way, I found a way out. I met my wife, and she got me to walk away from the heavy drinking, but I kept dipping and smoking. (Alot more here for a later time)

The night of shame, as I look back at it as, was my wedding night. I got black out drunk and don't remember anything after dinner. I was told the details by multiple different parties. But lets say that I am lucky to be married to the same woman 8 years later. From that point in time, I have maintained control over my alcohol addiction, and maintain constant vigilance on that front.

But I kept dipping/smoking up until my oldest was born in 2008, and then it was full on ninja dipping until July 23, 2014, when I heard that same voice that I heard twice before. Once when I choose to walk away from the party life, the other time when I sobered up on the morning after my wedding.

I choose not to listen any more, I choose a different path to walk away from that voice. I want to make that the last and final time I have to listen to the voice due to shame. This process has allowed me to finally come full circle with the death of my oldest brother on 4-10-1992. My brother was the motorcyclist. Each day is a step away from my former self, and a new step toward the new me. I have learned in all of this there is only one person that you have to prove anything to, that is yourself.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2014, 11:06:00 PM »
Quitting has opened my eyes, cleared my mind, and given me back the missing part. It has removed the self doubt and loathing with wisdom and passion. When I was confirmed the bishop said the holy spirit shall bless upon you a gift, it is now your job to listen, reflect, and grow until you find it. For many years I felt as if it had been a joke, like Santa skipping over my house. But in the last 144 days I have come to discover it is the gift of wisdom and words. I have the ability to use words to expresses thoughts and lessons that others struggle to make sense of. Quitting not only has restored my faith in myself but faith in God. By quitting with every day it has given me the strength to hope for tomorrow.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2014, 12:02:00 PM »
I just want to say thank you for all you do here man. Every time we talk, you're spot on about making other quits stronger. You are constantly looking to improve yourself, the site, and everybody around you. Most importantly, you're epitomizing what this site is based on: Compassionate support and hard truths.

Keep up the good work man, and thank you for making my quit stronger.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #82 on: November 24, 2014, 12:11:00 PM »
Morning Nuggets of Quit Wisdom ~ by Mr. C
Exchanged with fellow quitters......

- Fumbling for fitting words, Fuck It...I'm Quit 11/14
- Quitting is not a job, it is a way of life! 11/14
- Quite the quit quandary as we query questions of quit. Quit today my friend that much is true. 11/14
- The Nic Bitch is like a bad 70's porn, you can't but say God Damn! What were they thinking? But you still watch. Careful or you will end up with a bad porn stash. 11/14
- Beating the nic bitch so hard, I make Ike Turner look like Mr. Rodgers 11/14
- +1 never felt so good 11/14
- Quit 4 Today, live for the moment 11/14
- Quit is a privilege not a guarantee 11/14
- Tell the Nic Bitch to bite the curb, stomp that shit! 11/14
- Another bead moved over on the abacus of quit 11/14
- Quitting ain't for the weak of mind. That is why we are all stubborn as hell. 10/14
- I'm still cautious. Cautious keeps you here and and keeps you quit. But also in those funks or frustrating moments remember you have have what few could and are doing what even fewer continue to do. - McCamno -10/14
- Quitting is not a process it is a choice. I make the choice to quit with you EDD. 10/14
- It is a tough day! However I would rather play frogger in the middle of I-95 than use a can of cancer bunny pellets! 10/14
- Hell ya f the nic bitch and Mondays! 10/14
- Quit because it is the right thing to do, not because it is easy or I MIGHT fail. I quit w/u today 10/14
- TGIQ (Thank God I Quit) 10/14
- I hate Nicotine but I love your quit - NateMcP - 10/14
- I now despise weeds, tobacco is no different than an dandelion must be extracted and dealt with. 10/14
- When I grew up I never wanted to count by 1's. Now it is the first thing I do! 10/14
- Don't lose sight of the toils my friend. It is went it is easy we err. 9/14
- Don't hate the Nic Bitch, because you have given it a persona. Which is more respect than it deserves 9/14
- Quitting is harder than being married, but I do it EDD. 9/14
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #81 on: November 24, 2014, 11:07:00 AM »
Quandary of a Quitter

It is quite the quandary of questions that we ponder as we quietly query quizzically about our qualifications to quit.

We quarantine ourselves to the quotations of quintessential quitters. As we quibble about the quixotic qualities of the quitter, we quickly quench the queasiness of the questionable quid pro quos we made. In the instant we quell the internal quarrel and take the quantum leap into the quagmire of quit, we find the long quiet quotient from our quaint past.

This quirky, quotable, and inquisitive quotient now quakes on new quit legs quickly grabs the quill of quit. The questionable quotient pens the daily quotation of the quitters’ creed: “Today on my honor, I will remain steadfast in my promise to be a quitter.” With the quill in hand, the quaking and queasiness subsides and the quiet quotient no longer makes the quid pro quo with the queer queen of nicotine. The remainder has become the whole, to which we bestow the new title of a Quitter.

The quitter now stands quiet, quiver at the ready, with the armament of the quintessence army of quit to defend the promise to quit.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2014, 10:12:00 AM »
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Congrats on the Hall Candoit! Great work! Honored to be a fellow Titan with you. Keep up the great quit and keep the knowledge emporium posts.

Quit with you everyday
Congrats bro, always enjoy the tidbits from the Knowledge Emporium!
You are a badass.

What you've accomplished is badass.

Keep being a badass, badass.

I'm very proud to walk this path with you today man.
Congrats candoit! 100 days is fan-freakin-tastic. today I hit 1500, but you know what, I quit today, with you and assclown from October 2014. You guys are rocking it like no other and I'm honored to quit with you today!

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2014, 10:04:00 AM »
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Congrats on the Hall Candoit! Great work! Honored to be a fellow Titan with you. Keep up the great quit and keep the knowledge emporium posts.

Quit with you everyday
Congrats bro, always enjoy the tidbits from the Knowledge Emporium!
You are a badass.

What you've accomplished is badass.

Keep being a badass, badass.

I'm very proud to walk this path with you today man.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2014, 07:51:00 AM »
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Congrats on the Hall Candoit! Great work! Honored to be a fellow Titan with you. Keep up the great quit and keep the knowledge emporium posts.

Quit with you everyday
Congrats bro, always enjoy the tidbits from the Knowledge Emporium!
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2014, 05:59:00 AM »
Congrats on the Hall Candoit! Great work! Honored to be a fellow Titan with you. Keep up the great quit and keep the knowledge emporium posts.

Quit with you everyday

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »
Day 93: This is from Charles Darwin's Book Voyage of the Beagle: Chapter 2: Rio De Janerio

On the third day we took a different line. This is one of the principal lines of road in Brazil; yet it was in so bad a state that no wheeled vehicle, excepting the clumsy bullock-wagon, could pass along. In our whole journey we did not cross a single bridge built of stone; and those made of logs of wood were frequently so much out of repair, that it was necessary to go on one side to avoid them. All distances are inaccurately known. The road is often marked by crosses, in the place of milestones, to signify where human blood has been spilled. On the evening of the 23rd we arrived at Rio, having finished our pleasant little excursion.

They were traveling for some reason on the third day, they took a different path.
This is true of many of us, for some reason we choose to take a different path. This path is not well paved, documents, or smooth. The challenges we have to cross are not easy nor stable. Each time I crossed one of these bridges, it was "much out of repair". Well, I haven't used or up kept these bridges, but I was able to move forward, and most times like Darwin, i had to avoid them.

But here is the part that stood out to me All distances are inaccurately known. The road is often marked by crosses, in the place of milestones, to signify where human blood has been spilled. This is my quit. I have no idea how far I have traveled (distance) all I have is a number of days that I have quit. This doesn't tell me anything of meaning. I could have wondered in circles for days, in the fog, only to end up so close to the start of the journey, I was one step away. While that wondering could have taken 20 days, my total distance traveled away from quit point zero, is only a few feet not miles. This journey has the bodies of fallen quitters all around to serve as markers of their distance traveled, before the vanished in to the fog. These markers need to continue to serve as a reminder to myself of what is at stake, and what I risk every day in order to stay quit.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2014, 09:12:00 PM »
Day 85....

I have been thinking about this thing we call the fog, I don't know what even made me go to here, but circa 2000. My 2nd English class of undergrad we studied poetry. Shit I can not remember half of the things I do in a week but I remember this poem:
Fog
by Carl Sandburg
The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

I would like for you to stop, think, reflect, and post the meaning of this for you. I have included my interpretation below, but I want to you to draw your own conclusions for yourself (No Sheeple) here.[+] Spoiler We can not hear the mass of clouded judgement, rage, confusion, anger, depression, coming to impede the line of sight. This fog is unrelenting a silent omen that I fear because I do not know how long it will last or what it harbors in its mist. I need to be able to see in order to look forward and continue on the path of quit.
As it sits over me it effects not only me but those around me. It doesn't have to speak, it sits there and waits to snap up its pray. it is curled back waiting to pounce on those who do not respect its power and abilities. When the fog descends, we need to proceed with caution and slow otherwise, you will not see the hazard or trap that lay in-front of you. And just like it came, it rolls out, leaving no visible scars of its existence.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2014, 07:24:00 AM »
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Today is 79 days in to being Nic Free. I think about the past 15 days of my quit, and oh how have I changed.

This morning I was pissed about stupid shit at work, like I need to be next to my office phone to make calls. But the phone was moved on Monday to my new office, upstairs from the basement (old office), but found out they never moved my desk, and it was not being moved till oh next Wednesday. So what did i do I got a hand truck and moved my desk my self (no elevators). So I was also dealing with a pissy client that I didn't return emails or the phone calls from yesterday. He called me at 7:00 pm and emailed at 11 pm, and by the way he is not paying the 750 per day fee for my services, this is all for free. I go back to day 50 this would of derailed my entire day, go back to day 25 I would of stayed home to protect the quit, and 25 days before that, I would of gone for a coffee run (packed a fat lip full of cancer seed) come back switched to ninja mode and gut it for about the next 3 hours, till I was back in the car. But chatting with a Titian of Quit October 2014, I realized that about a year ago I was in a 4+ hour lock down, when a "gun man" was spotted on Yale campus. At the time I was working in a school in the area, due to its proximity it was locked down. What did that mean? It was part of my job to sweep the halls and ensure all students are in classrooms and all doors are locked, then I shelter in place. I ended up in an empty classroom for the entire time. So what did I do, well i drained the cell battery and then lamented about how I didn't have a tin with me, it was in my bag in my office. I was pissed that I had time to kill, an empty classroom, and even better an empty coffee cup. But the best part of this story, I had to shit in a trash can, because it happened from 11 am to 4 pm. Right before lunch, plus as a teacher you only have a 15 to 30 minute window of time to shit or talk to adults per day. But i was more upset that I didn't have my can of mint flavored cancer turds on me, then shitting in a trash can or a possible "gun man" on the loose. It turned out that it was a hoax called in from a pay phone (this happened in 2013 Google it).

But I digress about that incident a year ago. I was a teacher and I was being used for my skills and talents, but continually passed over for the leadership roles, because of who/what I was. I blamed it on a lot of things, but I knew there was a glass ceiling and it was time to leave. I left the classroom in December of 2013. This was one the hardest choices I made, but it was the right one. Why? I think back to what I was doing and how I got to where I was, it was because I pushed the envelope I was not complacent, I always risking, pushing the edge of comfort for myself and the students. I embraced failure, I created a culture of failure, I forced my students to fail, I taught failure, and I was damn good at it.

A culture of failure, is not living life as a failure, but how do I react when I do fail, how do I move on, how do I deal with it mentally, how do I seek help for what I do not know, how do I recognize that which I do not know, and how to I not fail at the same thing twice. I do not care what subject a teacher teach's, but if they are not teaching how to deal with failure through the content, they are doing nothing more than wasting time. I cared more about learning how to teach hard work, self reliance, self esteem, and pride than I did chemistry. Chemistry was the mechanism in which I could set up controlled failures to teach them how to trouble shoot, have faith in themselves. I always started the year off, with a lab that would never work or give them what the "book said it would" Why? Because they all doubted themselves, not the directions or the book. Even if they responded correctly, I always asked are you sure? Why? Because if you really trusted yourself and didn't look at the teacher as the wise sage on the stage, you would push back at the positional authority and stand up because you know it is right.

Chemistry is hard for many reasons, but the largest is that we study atoms and their behavior. That isn't hard, what is hard is that we observed the large scale interactions (macro scale) and from that we deduce what is going on at the atomic scale. So why is that relevant, well it is completely reverse of the way we learn all other subjects. We observe the effect from that we figure out the cause.
Here's the example I always used:
"Describe the wind?"
Could you answer that? Right now, no Google, no phone a friend, no text, no book, just your thinking and completely justify it with concrete examples and numerical data? I would wager that the majority of you would say it is something moving, like leaves or a tree or trash, or a house in Kansas. But you all gave me examples of effects not causes. That is how chemistry works, we see the effects and from there have to figure out the reasons.

But a year ago I realized I no longer was that teacher that embraced a culture of failure or deep logical thinking and conversation. I stopped because I had become disenfranchised. I had a choice I can take a risk and fail, or become the teacher that has lost the passion. I took the risk with the full knowledge I could fail, I was fine with that. I couldn't go in planning to fail, but I go in aware that it could happen and I will do everything I can to ensure it doesn't happen.

79 days ago, July 23, 2014, I took another risk knowing full well that I have failed every time I tried before. But i knew I had i to do it differently, so I joined and posted roll. This has been one hell of a risk for me, to put your faith in a complete group of strangers and hope that this works based on the stories and words posted here. But how is that different than walking into a new school, or the 1st day of a new school year?

Everyone always asks the same three questions of the teacher/professor/BAQ they just meet:

1) Who are you?
2) Why should I listen to you?
3) Why should I care?

If you fail to answer any of these questions by the end of the first interaction, then you are done. I don't care who you are, you may not realize it or even consciously think about it, but you do ask these questions.

Why does this matter? I kept my keyboard quite last night as two groups of quitters unleashed a pissing contest all over a new quit group. Am I a proud Titian Hell Fucking Yeah I am, but at the same time what I saw turned my stomach.

Call me a special butterfly, snowflake, a fuvking ghey phag, a cocknow user, or what ever else you want to, but take the pissing some where else. I took what happened a month ago too damn personal, but now you all have stepped over the line. This is scaring a new class of quitters, who all are taking a huge risk and putting their faith and trust in all of us not just one month. ALL OF US. I am not going to point fingers at who started that or who I think should apologize, because that is not my job or my place. However, it is my place to stand up for those who do not know any better or are too scared to say something in a place they do not feel comfortable, to begin with.

I have reached out to new quitters and they are scared to use Kakao, because they see the way it is talked about here, just like the quit lite. I saw the attack on one the veterans, who was one of the first few to reach out and welcome my messed up ass here. His message was clear: Honor your word to not use nicotine today, and protect it by any means necessary.

Protect your honor by any means necessary, I forgot what that was, until today, 365 days from when I was shitting in a trash can.

I am an educator who firmly believes in teaching and supporting those who take risks. The largest part of that is teaching them how to deal with the failure, and move forward stronger and with their heads held a little higher, with pride. A large part of that lesson is owning up to the errors and consequences of the failure (this is the students part) but my part is the hardest one:
Keep my mouth shut long enough for them to let them own up and encourage them to keep moving forward.
Do I call bullshit? Yes
Do I demand more? Yes
Do I ensure that they understand what they did wrong? Yes
Am I disappointed in their choices? Yes
Am I disappointed that they knew better? Yes
Am I disappointed in myself for not doing something differently? Yes
But do I linger on it? Yes
Do I hold it against them? No

If I want to grow better people they need to be held accountable, but they also need to know that tomorrow is a new day, and that I will be their for them just as I was today. Will any of my expectations or demands change, no never.

So I am protecting my honor, and the honor of those who have yet to learn or remember what honor is, people will fail, you all failed last night at being the role models for January 2015. But know this tomorrow I will be back here, post roll, wish everyone in Kakao a good morning, text NateMcP, PrOf, FredR, and McCamno, and be waiting for my expectations of all of you to be met. And I will continue to do that every single day of my life because I choose to protect my honor and I have pride what I do.
While I don't agree with everything you just wrote, there is some very powerful lessons, for life and Quit in there and I'm glad that you wrote it and that I read the whole thing 3 times.

I'm proud to call you Brother and I'm a better person for knowing and Quitting with you.
Nice work Candoit. Deep stuff here. Quit with you!

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »
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Today is 79 days in to being Nic Free. I think about the past 15 days of my quit, and oh how have I changed.

This morning I was pissed about stupid shit at work, like I need to be next to my office phone to make calls. But the phone was moved on Monday to my new office, upstairs from the basement (old office), but found out they never moved my desk, and it was not being moved till oh next Wednesday. So what did i do I got a hand truck and moved my desk my self (no elevators). So I was also dealing with a pissy client that I didn't return emails or the phone calls from yesterday. He called me at 7:00 pm and emailed at 11 pm, and by the way he is not paying the 750 per day fee for my services, this is all for free. I go back to day 50 this would of derailed my entire day, go back to day 25 I would of stayed home to protect the quit, and 25 days before that, I would of gone for a coffee run (packed a fat lip full of cancer seed) come back switched to ninja mode and gut it for about the next 3 hours, till I was back in the car. But chatting with a Titian of Quit October 2014, I realized that about a year ago I was in a 4+ hour lock down, when a "gun man" was spotted on Yale campus. At the time I was working in a school in the area, due to its proximity it was locked down. What did that mean? It was part of my job to sweep the halls and ensure all students are in classrooms and all doors are locked, then I shelter in place. I ended up in an empty classroom for the entire time. So what did I do, well i drained the cell battery and then lamented about how I didn't have a tin with me, it was in my bag in my office. I was pissed that I had time to kill, an empty classroom, and even better an empty coffee cup. But the best part of this story, I had to shit in a trash can, because it happened from 11 am to 4 pm. Right before lunch, plus as a teacher you only have a 15 to 30 minute window of time to shit or talk to adults per day. But i was more upset that I didn't have my can of mint flavored cancer turds on me, then shitting in a trash can or a possible "gun man" on the loose. It turned out that it was a hoax called in from a pay phone (this happened in 2013 Google it).

But I digress about that incident a year ago. I was a teacher and I was being used for my skills and talents, but continually passed over for the leadership roles, because of who/what I was. I blamed it on a lot of things, but I knew there was a glass ceiling and it was time to leave. I left the classroom in December of 2013. This was one the hardest choices I made, but it was the right one. Why? I think back to what I was doing and how I got to where I was, it was because I pushed the envelope I was not complacent, I always risking, pushing the edge of comfort for myself and the students. I embraced failure, I created a culture of failure, I forced my students to fail, I taught failure, and I was damn good at it.

A culture of failure, is not living life as a failure, but how do I react when I do fail, how do I move on, how do I deal with it mentally, how do I seek help for what I do not know, how do I recognize that which I do not know, and how to I not fail at the same thing twice. I do not care what subject a teacher teach's, but if they are not teaching how to deal with failure through the content, they are doing nothing more than wasting time. I cared more about learning how to teach hard work, self reliance, self esteem, and pride than I did chemistry. Chemistry was the mechanism in which I could set up controlled failures to teach them how to trouble shoot, have faith in themselves. I always started the year off, with a lab that would never work or give them what the "book said it would" Why? Because they all doubted themselves, not the directions or the book. Even if they responded correctly, I always asked are you sure? Why? Because if you really trusted yourself and didn't look at the teacher as the wise sage on the stage, you would push back at the positional authority and stand up because you know it is right.

Chemistry is hard for many reasons, but the largest is that we study atoms and their behavior. That isn't hard, what is hard is that we observed the large scale interactions (macro scale) and from that we deduce what is going on at the atomic scale. So why is that relevant, well it is completely reverse of the way we learn all other subjects. We observe the effect from that we figure out the cause.
Here's the example I always used:
"Describe the wind?"
Could you answer that? Right now, no Google, no phone a friend, no text, no book, just your thinking and completely justify it with concrete examples and numerical data? I would wager that the majority of you would say it is something moving, like leaves or a tree or trash, or a house in Kansas. But you all gave me examples of effects not causes. That is how chemistry works, we see the effects and from there have to figure out the reasons.

But a year ago I realized I no longer was that teacher that embraced a culture of failure or deep logical thinking and conversation. I stopped because I had become disenfranchised. I had a choice I can take a risk and fail, or become the teacher that has lost the passion. I took the risk with the full knowledge I could fail, I was fine with that. I couldn't go in planning to fail, but I go in aware that it could happen and I will do everything I can to ensure it doesn't happen.

79 days ago, July 23, 2014, I took another risk knowing full well that I have failed every time I tried before. But i knew I had i to do it differently, so I joined and posted roll. This has been one hell of a risk for me, to put your faith in a complete group of strangers and hope that this works based on the stories and words posted here. But how is that different than walking into a new school, or the 1st day of a new school year?

Everyone always asks the same three questions of the teacher/professor/BAQ they just meet:

1) Who are you?
2) Why should I listen to you?
3) Why should I care?

If you fail to answer any of these questions by the end of the first interaction, then you are done. I don't care who you are, you may not realize it or even consciously think about it, but you do ask these questions.

Why does this matter? I kept my keyboard quite last night as two groups of quitters unleashed a pissing contest all over a new quit group. Am I a proud Titian Hell Fucking Yeah I am, but at the same time what I saw turned my stomach.

Call me a special butterfly, snowflake, a fuvking ghey phag, a cocknow user, or what ever else you want to, but take the pissing some where else. I took what happened a month ago too damn personal, but now you all have stepped over the line. This is scaring a new class of quitters, who all are taking a huge risk and putting their faith and trust in all of us not just one month. ALL OF US. I am not going to point fingers at who started that or who I think should apologize, because that is not my job or my place. However, it is my place to stand up for those who do not know any better or are too scared to say something in a place they do not feel comfortable, to begin with.

I have reached out to new quitters and they are scared to use Kakao, because they see the way it is talked about here, just like the quit lite. I saw the attack on one the veterans, who was one of the first few to reach out and welcome my messed up ass here. His message was clear: Honor your word to not use nicotine today, and protect it by any means necessary.

Protect your honor by any means necessary, I forgot what that was, until today, 365 days from when I was shitting in a trash can.

I am an educator who firmly believes in teaching and supporting those who take risks. The largest part of that is teaching them how to deal with the failure, and move forward stronger and with their heads held a little higher, with pride. A large part of that lesson is owning up to the errors and consequences of the failure (this is the students part) but my part is the hardest one:
Keep my mouth shut long enough for them to let them own up and encourage them to keep moving forward.
Do I call bullshit? Yes
Do I demand more? Yes
Do I ensure that they understand what they did wrong? Yes
Am I disappointed in their choices? Yes
Am I disappointed that they knew better? Yes
Am I disappointed in myself for not doing something differently? Yes
But do I linger on it? Yes
Do I hold it against them? No

If I want to grow better people they need to be held accountable, but they also need to know that tomorrow is a new day, and that I will be their for them just as I was today. Will any of my expectations or demands change, no never.

So I am protecting my honor, and the honor of those who have yet to learn or remember what honor is, people will fail, you all failed last night at being the role models for January 2015. But know this tomorrow I will be back here, post roll, wish everyone in Kakao a good morning, text NateMcP, PrOf, FredR, and McCamno, and be waiting for my expectations of all of you to be met. And I will continue to do that every single day of my life because I choose to protect my honor and I have pride what I do.
While I don't agree with everything you just wrote, there is some very powerful lessons, for life and Quit in there and I'm glad that you wrote it and that I read the whole thing 3 times.

I'm proud to call you Brother and I'm a better person for knowing and Quitting with you.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2014, 11:03:00 PM »
Today is 79 days in to being Nic Free. I think about the past 15 days of my quit, and oh how have I changed.

This morning I was pissed about stupid shit at work, like I need to be next to my office phone to make calls. But the phone was moved on Monday to my new office, upstairs from the basement (old office), but found out they never moved my desk, and it was not being moved till oh next Wednesday. So what did i do I got a hand truck and moved my desk my self (no elevators). So I was also dealing with a pissy client that I didn't return emails or the phone calls from yesterday. He called me at 7:00 pm and emailed at 11 pm, and by the way he is not paying the 750 per day fee for my services, this is all for free. I go back to day 50 this would of derailed my entire day, go back to day 25 I would of stayed home to protect the quit, and 25 days before that, I would of gone for a coffee run (packed a fat lip full of cancer seed) come back switched to ninja mode and gut it for about the next 3 hours, till I was back in the car. But chatting with a Titian of Quit October 2014, I realized that about a year ago I was in a 4+ hour lock down, when a "gun man" was spotted on Yale campus. At the time I was working in a school in the area, due to its proximity it was locked down. What did that mean? It was part of my job to sweep the halls and ensure all students are in classrooms and all doors are locked, then I shelter in place. I ended up in an empty classroom for the entire time. So what did I do, well i drained the cell battery and then lamented about how I didn't have a tin with me, it was in my bag in my office. I was pissed that I had time to kill, an empty classroom, and even better an empty coffee cup. But the best part of this story, I had to shit in a trash can, because it happened from 11 am to 4 pm. Right before lunch, plus as a teacher you only have a 15 to 30 minute window of time to shit or talk to adults per day. But i was more upset that I didn't have my can of mint flavored cancer turds on me, then shitting in a trash can or a possible "gun man" on the loose. It turned out that it was a hoax called in from a pay phone (this happened in 2013 Google it).

But I digress about that incident a year ago. I was a teacher and I was being used for my skills and talents, but continually passed over for the leadership roles, because of who/what I was. I blamed it on a lot of things, but I knew there was a glass ceiling and it was time to leave. I left the classroom in December of 2013. This was one the hardest choices I made, but it was the right one. Why? I think back to what I was doing and how I got to where I was, it was because I pushed the envelope I was not complacent, I always risking, pushing the edge of comfort for myself and the students. I embraced failure, I created a culture of failure, I forced my students to fail, I taught failure, and I was damn good at it.

A culture of failure, is not living life as a failure, but how do I react when I do fail, how do I move on, how do I deal with it mentally, how do I seek help for what I do not know, how do I recognize that which I do not know, and how to I not fail at the same thing twice. I do not care what subject a teacher teach's, but if they are not teaching how to deal with failure through the content, they are doing nothing more than wasting time. I cared more about learning how to teach hard work, self reliance, self esteem, and pride than I did chemistry. Chemistry was the mechanism in which I could set up controlled failures to teach them how to trouble shoot, have faith in themselves. I always started the year off, with a lab that would never work or give them what the "book said it would" Why? Because they all doubted themselves, not the directions or the book. Even if they responded correctly, I always asked are you sure? Why? Because if you really trusted yourself and didn't look at the teacher as the wise sage on the stage, you would push back at the positional authority and stand up because you know it is right.

Chemistry is hard for many reasons, but the largest is that we study atoms and their behavior. That isn't hard, what is hard is that we observed the large scale interactions (macro scale) and from that we deduce what is going on at the atomic scale. So why is that relevant, well it is completely reverse of the way we learn all other subjects. We observe the effect from that we figure out the cause.
Here's the example I always used:
"Describe the wind?"
Could you answer that? Right now, no Google, no phone a friend, no text, no book, just your thinking and completely justify it with concrete examples and numerical data? I would wager that the majority of you would say it is something moving, like leaves or a tree or trash, or a house in Kansas. But you all gave me examples of effects not causes. That is how chemistry works, we see the effects and from there have to figure out the reasons.

But a year ago I realized I no longer was that teacher that embraced a culture of failure or deep logical thinking and conversation. I stopped because I had become disenfranchised. I had a choice I can take a risk and fail, or become the teacher that has lost the passion. I took the risk with the full knowledge I could fail, I was fine with that. I couldn't go in planning to fail, but I go in aware that it could happen and I will do everything I can to ensure it doesn't happen.

79 days ago, July 23, 2014, I took another risk knowing full well that I have failed every time I tried before. But i knew I had i to do it differently, so I joined and posted roll. This has been one hell of a risk for me, to put your faith in a complete group of strangers and hope that this works based on the stories and words posted here. But how is that different than walking into a new school, or the 1st day of a new school year?

Everyone always asks the same three questions of the teacher/professor/BAQ they just meet:

1) Who are you?
2) Why should I listen to you?
3) Why should I care?

If you fail to answer any of these questions by the end of the first interaction, then you are done. I don't care who you are, you may not realize it or even consciously think about it, but you do ask these questions.

Why does this matter? I kept my keyboard quite last night as two groups of quitters unleashed a pissing contest all over a new quit group. Am I a proud Titian Hell Fucking Yeah I am, but at the same time what I saw turned my stomach.

Call me a special butterfly, snowflake, a fuvking ghey phag, a cocknow user, or what ever else you want to, but take the pissing some where else. I took what happened a month ago too damn personal, but now you all have stepped over the line. This is scaring a new class of quitters, who all are taking a huge risk and putting their faith and trust in all of us not just one month. ALL OF US. I am not going to point fingers at who started that or who I think should apologize, because that is not my job or my place. However, it is my place to stand up for those who do not know any better or are too scared to say something in a place they do not feel comfortable, to begin with.

I have reached out to new quitters and they are scared to use Kakao, because they see the way it is talked about here, just like the quit lite. I saw the attack on one the veterans, who was one of the first few to reach out and welcome my messed up ass here. His message was clear: Honor your word to not use nicotine today, and protect it by any means necessary.

Protect your honor by any means necessary, I forgot what that was, until today, 365 days from when I was shitting in a trash can.

I am an educator who firmly believes in teaching and supporting those who take risks. The largest part of that is teaching them how to deal with the failure, and move forward stronger and with their heads held a little higher, with pride. A large part of that lesson is owning up to the errors and consequences of the failure (this is the students part) but my part is the hardest one:
Keep my mouth shut long enough for them to let them own up and encourage them to keep moving forward.
Do I call bullshit? Yes
Do I demand more? Yes
Do I ensure that they understand what they did wrong? Yes
Am I disappointed in their choices? Yes
Am I disappointed that they knew better? Yes
Am I disappointed in myself for not doing something differently? Yes
But do I linger on it? Yes
Do I hold it against them? No

If I want to grow better people they need to be held accountable, but they also need to know that tomorrow is a new day, and that I will be their for them just as I was today. Will any of my expectations or demands change, no never.

So I am protecting my honor, and the honor of those who have yet to learn or remember what honor is, people will fail, you all failed last night at being the role models for January 2015. But know this tomorrow I will be back here, post roll, wish everyone in Kakao a good morning, text NateMcP, PrOf, FredR, and McCamno, and be waiting for my expectations of all of you to be met. And I will continue to do that every single day of my life because I choose to protect my honor and I have pride what I do.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2014, 09:56:00 PM »
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Day 65 It has been two weeks since I last posted anything up here or substantial. I have been pissed off at anyone that has crossed my path in the digital or physical world. Anger is a fowl beast, that corrupts and distorts our perception of everything from text messages and emails to things that aren't said.

I have about 2 hours minimum worth of driving M -F were I have nothing to do but think about why....
  • Why am I an addict?
  • Why could I not stop sooner?
  • Why do I always feel like a failure?
  • Why do I have something to prove?
  • Why do I need the validation of others to feel better about myself?
  • Why am I becoming a social hermit?
  • Why do I feel very polar about things?
  • Why do I just ramble and think I need to provide detailed answers to everything?
  • Why can't I just shut-up and listen to others?
  • Why do people raise their children to tell the truth but don't want to hear it themselves?
  • Why can cops talk on their cell phones and pass me in the right lane going 85?
  • Why am I forgotten?
  • Why am I not considered important or capable?
Each of these questions gets me enraged to think about, but as I am asking myself these questions I become not upset but depressed and disappointed, almost on the verge of tears because I know that it is I who is fighting these battles with myself. It is the absence of the nicotine in my system that is driving these questions, because it is the new clarity of mind that allows these questions to rise to the surface.

Many say that our dreams are a window to the soul, but the questions we ask ourselves of ourselves are often more important than the dreams. This is because the questions that our mind raises are ones that need to be dealt with. It is all too often we ignore these questions or turn down the volume by turning to drugs, but it only a temporary fix. The questions become louder, becoming self doubt and pity so I push more drugs into my system and this keeps going on and on.

So until we can begin to find the answers and truth for ourselves our addiction will run our life. I know it did with me, and still does. Yes I am still quit, but the new addition is being quitter.

Being a quitter is not a habit, it cant be. Being a quitter is about fighting, a boxer does not train for 1 round, nor does a ball player train for 1 at bat, it is about latching on to something that is going help you begin answering those questions. We all find a sense of pride in being part of something larger than ourselves, but when we do is it at the risk of losing our own identity or is it now having the support to begin to truthfully answer those questions. I really do not know the answer to that, for one simple reason, I do not know who I am yet, as a person with out nicotine, and I have the rest of my life to figure that out, as I begin to answer why.
Nice reflection there friend.

You will find yourself in time.