This Time Is For Real

[FMBM707]

I felt that I should share this thought here.

I have very few friends that I communicate with on a regular basis. That is for a variety of reasons, such as I don't like going out and drinking like I am 21, or they are still single, or don't have kids, or a career that they have to be up at 5:30 am and interacting with 30 + people at 7:00 am. Which is fine, but I also have not made the attempt to try and expand my circle of "friends".

This means I have stunted my own social growth to those that I have felt comfortable with and not changed the habits of socialization. But this is why a place like this is important. It is about changing habits and routines to become a different person than you were the day before.

Quitting is about change ALL OF WHO YOU ARE. If you don't begin to address these issues you will at some point revert back to what is comfortable all because it is habit. Change and learning are the same thing. When you change some thing, you are learning how to deal with the new, and it is uncomfortable. The discomfort is a sign you are doing it right.

Right now I am trying to deal with the fact I have more social interaction here online, or in Kakao than I do in real life. I could not do this alone and with out the support of the active members. But this introvertedness has been building long before the quit, and now I am ready to address this problem head on.

So I am expressing this fact in hopes that it gets to some of the less active Titian's to see that we are just as messed up as them, and have used tobacco to cover flaws, or hide feeling and emotions.

Enjoying your perspective Candoit. It's not just about quitting nicotine, it's about changing who we are for the better. Quit with you all day every day. Keep up the solid quit.

[Candoit]

I felt that I should share this thought here.

I have very few friends that I communicate with on a regular basis. That is for a variety of reasons, such as I don't like going out and drinking like I am 21, or they are still single, or don't have kids, or a career that they have to be up at 5:30 am and interacting with 30 + people at 7:00 am. Which is fine, but I also have not made the attempt to try and expand my circle of "friends".

This means I have stunted my own social growth to those that I have felt comfortable with and not changed the habits of socialization. But this is why a place like this is important. It is about changing habits and routines to become a different person than you were the day before.

Quitting is about change ALL OF WHO YOU ARE. If you don't begin to address these issues you will at some point revert back to what is comfortable all because it is habit. Change and learning are the same thing. When you change some thing, you are learning how to deal with the new, and it is uncomfortable. The discomfort is a sign you are doing it right.

Right now I am trying to deal with the fact I have more social interaction here online, or in Kakao than I do in real life. I could not do this alone and with out the support of the active members. But this introvertedness has been building long before the quit, and now I am ready to address this problem head on.

So I am expressing this fact in hopes that it gets to some of the less active Titian's to see that we are just as messed up as them, and have used tobacco to cover flaws, or hide feeling and emotions.

[Quitforsoj]

Great discussion

[rdad]

I have had a tough week, but as I think about what it means to be a quitter and the strength it takes, holy guacamole batman! This is a crazy ride. My wife called me a woman because of the emotional component of the quit. I am having serious ups and downs, i just wish there was a middle. But I cannot wish, because wishing does not fix problems actions fix problems.

I need to begin taking action and not make excuses or wishes to feel better about myself or my work. If the past 30 days has taught me something, it is that quitting is not work, it is a culture shock. It is retraining every part of your system to do with out. It is like know that you are going to fast everyday until you die. For ENAV that is like ordering every meal from Popeye's

But it is the others that you found by circumstance that make the quit possible. We ended up by luck to find each other in October quitters. But it is not all "quitters" that I will say luck or good fortune. Those that use this as a place holder for their quit days. I just think that is bullshit, like calling in sober to AA from the bar. I look at those days they are claiming to be can free. IMO do not deserve to put those number next to their names. That is a right and priviledge to post here, and it should not taken lightly.

Welcome to your quit, honey.

I'll do your hair if you do mine. Deal? We can listen to the Bieber CD...

You will settle. Nicotine is a helluva drug that messed us up more than we realized. Hell, I can't tell you how many times I went from :DQ: to ;Ironman: initially, but it was a lot. You're doing this man, and it's fucking awesome to watch.

Funny, second intro in a row about excessive emotion in a quit. Made me think about a time in my quit when I felt no emotion about anything for a couple weeks. That sucked worse than raging and crying. Might be a funk, might be life, but either way just keep quitting and it will be alright. QLF with you all day!

Candoit, I really liked reading this latest discussion. I for sure am more emotional since quitting. Its a good thing I think. It means we are living clean. I know I was flatlined emotionally when I was using. Just plodding along waiting for my next fix. Now life has more meaning and feelings. Keep it up, you are doing great!

[B-loMatt]

I have had a tough week, but as I think about what it means to be a quitter and the strength it takes, holy guacamole batman! This is a crazy ride. My wife called me a woman because of the emotional component of the quit. I am having serious ups and downs, i just wish there was a middle. But I cannot wish, because wishing does not fix problems actions fix problems.

I need to begin taking action and not make excuses or wishes to feel better about myself or my work. If the past 30 days has taught me something, it is that quitting is not work, it is a culture shock. It is retraining every part of your system to do with out. It is like know that you are going to fast everyday until you die. For ENAV that is like ordering every meal from Popeye's

But it is the others that you found by circumstance that make the quit possible. We ended up by luck to find each other in October quitters. But it is not all "quitters" that I will say luck or good fortune. Those that use this as a place holder for their quit days. I just think that is bullshit, like calling in sober to AA from the bar. I look at those days they are claiming to be can free. IMO do not deserve to put those number next to their names. That is a right and priviledge to post here, and it should not taken lightly.

Welcome to your quit, honey.

I'll do your hair if you do mine. Deal? We can listen to the Bieber CD...

You will settle. Nicotine is a helluva drug that messed us up more than we realized. Hell, I can't tell you how many times I went from :DQ: to ;Ironman: initially, but it was a lot. You're doing this man, and it's fucking awesome to watch.

Funny, second intro in a row about excessive emotion in a quit. Made me think about a time in my quit when I felt no emotion about anything for a couple weeks. That sucked worse than raging and crying. Might be a funk, might be life, but either way just keep quitting and it will be alright. QLF with you all day!

[Smeds]

I have had a tough week, but as I think about what it means to be a quitter and the strength it takes, holy guacamole batman! This is a crazy ride. My wife called me a woman because of the emotional component of the quit. I am having serious ups and downs, i just wish there was a middle. But I cannot wish, because wishing does not fix problems actions fix problems.

I need to begin taking action and not make excuses or wishes to feel better about myself or my work. If the past 30 days has taught me something, it is that quitting is not work, it is a culture shock. It is retraining every part of your system to do with out. It is like know that you are going to fast everyday until you die. For ENAV that is like ordering every meal from Popeye's

But it is the others that you found by circumstance that make the quit possible. We ended up by luck to find each other in October quitters. But it is not all "quitters" that I will say luck or good fortune. Those that use this as a place holder for their quit days. I just think that is bullshit, like calling in sober to AA from the bar. I look at those days they are claiming to be can free. IMO do not deserve to put those number next to their names. That is a right and priviledge to post here, and it should not taken lightly.

You are killing it bud, and I speak for everyone when I say we're glad you're here. Very true on the dudes using KTC as a "day counter". They exist in every group. They also are the first to either: 1) Cave ... 2) hit HOF and bail ... 3) hit HOF, bail, cave and come back later with tail tucked.

How can you tell if a guy is worth it? You don't ... he tells you through his actions. Stay strong, stay involved, stay quit. Attendance isn't everything, brotherhood and accountability is (are?). You "get it"!

Quit with you EDD! See you on roll ...

[wastepanel]

I have had a tough week, but as I think about what it means to be a quitter and the strength it takes, holy guacamole batman! This is a crazy ride. My wife called me a woman because of the emotional component of the quit. I am having serious ups and downs, i just wish there was a middle. But I cannot wish, because wishing does not fix problems actions fix problems.

I need to begin taking action and not make excuses or wishes to feel better about myself or my work. If the past 30 days has taught me something, it is that quitting is not work, it is a culture shock. It is retraining every part of your system to do with out. It is like know that you are going to fast everyday until you die. For ENAV that is like ordering every meal from Popeye's

But it is the others that you found by circumstance that make the quit possible. We ended up by luck to find each other in October quitters. But it is not all "quitters" that I will say luck or good fortune. Those that use this as a place holder for their quit days. I just think that is bullshit, like calling in sober to AA from the bar. I look at those days they are claiming to be can free. IMO do not deserve to put those number next to their names. That is a right and priviledge to post here, and it should not taken lightly.

Welcome to your quit, honey.

I'll do your hair if you do mine. Deal? We can listen to the Bieber CD...

You will settle. Nicotine is a helluva drug that messed us up more than we realized. Hell, I can't tell you how many times I went from :DQ: to ;Ironman: initially, but it was a lot. You're doing this man, and it's fucking awesome to watch.

[Candoit]

I have had a tough week, but as I think about what it means to be a quitter and the strength it takes, holy guacamole batman! This is a crazy ride. My wife called me a woman because of the emotional component of the quit. I am having serious ups and downs, i just wish there was a middle. But I cannot wish, because wishing does not fix problems actions fix problems.

I need to begin taking action and not make excuses or wishes to feel better about myself or my work. If the past 30 days has taught me something, it is that quitting is not work, it is a culture shock. It is retraining every part of your system to do with out. It is like know that you are going to fast everyday until you die. For ENAV that is like ordering every meal from Popeye's

But it is the others that you found by circumstance that make the quit possible. We ended up by luck to find each other in October quitters. But it is not all "quitters" that I will say luck or good fortune. Those that use this as a place holder for their quit days. I just think that is bullshit, like calling in sober to AA from the bar. I look at those days they are claiming to be can free. IMO do not deserve to put those number next to their names. That is a right and priviledge to post here, and it should not taken lightly.

[FMBM707]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

Good stuff Candoit. Enjoyed the read! Keep up the good quit.

[Ginet]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!

Lot of strength and introspection from a 14 day dude. My mind was still a jumbled festering pile at 2 weeks. I took longer than the average bear. Very insightful and strong post. Only a couple of items I want to comment on.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

Next item you are totally in line with my thinking. Small groups are the 2nd most powerful tenet of the KTC quit behind posting roll daily. Your section addressed to your titan family was heartfelt with admiration for these dudes/dudesses that are there for you. Keep up the small groups. As you get more quit tenure (and my money is on you long term), invite a new quitter in. One one my groups is a bunch of guys in my month and a vet. The other is where I was the new quitter invited in right around where you are now. I love being a part of both of the groups and wouldn't trade them for anything.

You're on the right path and fulling diving in. Good stuff Candoit.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

I am aware of the false confince, at this point. But also know myself I need to see both the long and short terms of things. So keeping the eye on the guiding light, ie qft, helps me place the day to day choices and prevents them from becoming meaningless routines. I don't want my quit to become routine.

The words and support of the vets of quit also continue to help ground my lofty goal, with the bitter reality of quitting. But if I listened to all those that said I couldn't I would not be here today.

Done4me I hope this helps you understand quit for life is no some cheap motto, it is a goal in which I work towards everyday. The more people that know my goal, the more that can help support me.

I hear what you're saying, but:

A life long quit is the war. Each day is a new battle. In this war you have to win every single battle. You can't lose a single battle. The war will be lost if you lose today's battle. Win today.

One day at a time is the mantra required for success in this war.

Big bonus of the ODAAT philosophy: Valuing your time. You will learn to value each new day of freedom by soaking in the world with sharpened senses. Senses no longer dulled by nicotine. Enjoy the rest of your free life, ODAAT.

congrats on 2 weeks!

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!

Lot of strength and introspection from a 14 day dude. My mind was still a jumbled festering pile at 2 weeks. I took longer than the average bear. Very insightful and strong post. Only a couple of items I want to comment on.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

Next item you are totally in line with my thinking. Small groups are the 2nd most powerful tenet of the KTC quit behind posting roll daily. Your section addressed to your titan family was heartfelt with admiration for these dudes/dudesses that are there for you. Keep up the small groups. As you get more quit tenure (and my money is on you long term), invite a new quitter in. One one my groups is a bunch of guys in my month and a vet. The other is where I was the new quitter invited in right around where you are now. I love being a part of both of the groups and wouldn't trade them for anything.

You're on the right path and fulling diving in. Good stuff Candoit.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

I am aware of the false confince, at this point. But also know myself I need to see both the long and short terms of things. So keeping the eye on the guiding light, ie qft, helps me place the day to day choices and prevents them from becoming meaningless routines. I don't want my quit to become routine.

The words and support of the vets of quit also continue to help ground my lofty goal, with the bitter reality of quitting. But if I listened to all those that said I couldn't I would not be here today.

Done4me I hope this helps you understand quit for life is no some cheap motto, it is a goal in which I work towards everyday. The more people that know my goal, the more that can help support me.

I hear what you're saying, but:

A life long quit is the war. Each day is a new battle. In this war you have to win every single battle. You can't lose a single battle. The war will be lost if you lose today's battle. Win today.

One day at a time is the mantra required for success in this war.

Big bonus of the ODAAT philosophy: Valuing your time. You will learn to value each new day of freedom by soaking in the world with sharpened senses. Senses no longer dulled by nicotine. Enjoy the rest of your free life, ODAAT.

[Candoit]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!

Lot of strength and introspection from a 14 day dude. My mind was still a jumbled festering pile at 2 weeks. I took longer than the average bear. Very insightful and strong post. Only a couple of items I want to comment on.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

Next item you are totally in line with my thinking. Small groups are the 2nd most powerful tenet of the KTC quit behind posting roll daily. Your section addressed to your titan family was heartfelt with admiration for these dudes/dudesses that are there for you. Keep up the small groups. As you get more quit tenure (and my money is on you long term), invite a new quitter in. One one my groups is a bunch of guys in my month and a vet. The other is where I was the new quitter invited in right around where you are now. I love being a part of both of the groups and wouldn't trade them for anything.

You're on the right path and fulling diving in. Good stuff Candoit.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

I am aware of the false confince, at this point. But also know myself I need to see both the long and short terms of things. So keeping the eye on the guiding light, ie qft, helps me place the day to day choices and prevents them from becoming meaningless routines. I don't want my quit to become routine.

The words and support of the vets of quit also continue to help ground my lofty goal, with the bitter reality of quitting. But if I listened to all those that said I couldn't I would not be here today.

Done4me I hope this helps you understand quit for life is no some cheap motto, it is a goal in which I work towards everyday. The more people that know my goal, the more that can help support me.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!

Lot of strength and introspection from a 14 day dude. My mind was still a jumbled festering pile at 2 weeks. I took longer than the average bear. Very insightful and strong post. Only a couple of items I want to comment on.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

Next item you are totally in line with my thinking. Small groups are the 2nd most powerful tenet of the KTC quit behind posting roll daily. Your section addressed to your titan family was heartfelt with admiration for these dudes/dudesses that are there for you. Keep up the small groups. As you get more quit tenure (and my money is on you long term), invite a new quitter in. One one my groups is a bunch of guys in my month and a vet. The other is where I was the new quitter invited in right around where you are now. I love being a part of both of the groups and wouldn't trade them for anything.

You're on the right path and fulling diving in. Good stuff Candoit.

Great post. Keep it up.

[Done4Me]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!

Lot of strength and introspection from a 14 day dude. My mind was still a jumbled festering pile at 2 weeks. I took longer than the average bear. Very insightful and strong post. Only a couple of items I want to comment on.

Beware of false confidence and large promises by staying small. Your phrase "now a quitter for life"...I know you are still in the euphoria stage but this is a long ass battle. One day, that's it, keep the promise to one day. No way in hell you should be promising anything more. Certainly not a lifetime. It's like in the business world, under promise and over deliver.

Next item you are totally in line with my thinking. Small groups are the 2nd most powerful tenet of the KTC quit behind posting roll daily. Your section addressed to your titan family was heartfelt with admiration for these dudes/dudesses that are there for you. Keep up the small groups. As you get more quit tenure (and my money is on you long term), invite a new quitter in. One one my groups is a bunch of guys in my month and a vet. The other is where I was the new quitter invited in right around where you are now. I love being a part of both of the groups and wouldn't trade them for anything.

You're on the right path and fulling diving in. Good stuff Candoit.

[Smeds]

Day 14

I am reflective at this point in my quit. So far I have experienced very low lows, in which I am angry at everyone and mellow even points. I wouldn't say that I am depressed nor would I say I am emotionally stable, but I am taking pause to evaluate the events and choices that have lead me to this point in my life.

The fact is I always had something to prove to everyone but myself. Whether it was in atheltics, socially, intellectually, or at work. The need to seek some sort of approval that I had earned the right to be here, gave me one hell of an egostical chip on my shoulder. I know why I first started to smoke, drink, or go down a very dark place in my life. I found things I could control, but in the end for what I thought I could control, controlled me.

I used to say, I would be a in a gutter if it wasn't for my wife, that statement is not tongue and cheek, it is the gospel truth. This habit it the last rement of my old life, that needed to be shed. In shedding this remaining crutch I can now move on with my journey. I would say that part of my life was the better part of 15 yrs.

14 days ago, I heard myself say to my wife "I will ask my doctor, next week about how to quit." She stormed off, i left for work and stopped for a tin, not thinking much of anything. But as that tin sat there on the passenger seat, I thought why is she mad, I do everything she want, she is the one that has the problem. But an hour is a long time to be alone with your thoughts, but then I though of every major fight in the past several years, guess who caused it, the nic bitch! That was it, I had been in this place so many times before, but what makes it any different? I will quit tonight, I just bought a new tin, that's a waste of money. So as I pulled into work, I did my ninja dipper routine hid the bottle, and tin. Went to my office and put in another one, well I have to get rid of it why waste it? So on went the day, got pissed, another one, coffee break? Another one, why well I am getting rid of the tin. But lunch I started looking how to quit, baccoff, patchs , gum, cold turkey? Oh there's a coupon for patches, or gum, but if I use baccoff my wife won't like that.... Then KTC and next thing I know its 4 pm. That drive home I threw the tin out of the window in the middle of interstate, went home, took my daughter to cheer leading, and joined KTC. That's where I am right now. The same spot I was 14 days ago, except I am now a quitter for life.

July 23, 2014 I realized that this addiction didn't define me, nor did the approval of anyone else. I said it before "I am not seeking forgiveness from everyone, I am seeking to forgive myself. I am living what I preech, I came clean with my wife, asked for her support and made it clear that I am not asking for forgiveness, but support. I reached out to my quit family, and the elders here. They all gave me adivice , but more important they gave me support.

For those that may be reading the KTC forums, please realize something. Everyone that is here and is committed to their quit, does not except failure. It may seem harsh, rude, arrogent, and hypocritical, but if you have that view you don't know what it means to quit yet. Saying failure is okay means it's okay to put that shit in your mouth, and its not a big deal. Well count how many times you have made that deal with yourself, and three years later your back at square one. Why? Because you said failure is okay.

KTC has been the support I need to quit everyday. The forums are only part of it, the numbers, live chat, and kakao app chatter that make the quit possible. U put ur quit in the hands of every serious quitter when you join, as they put their quit in yours. The wisdom and experiences of the group is something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

To my titan family:
Lim - the ability to reach out and be the butt of long running jokes, in the face of huge obsticals impresses and inspires me every day.
Southpaw the wisdom and leadership you display at such a young age, you have nothing but greatness ahead
Bam your fight to do right by your children and willingness to fight for them and our quit
Enav the southern possum fighter, always with the joke, has been a huge help
Thomas the voice of reason
Thutchi keep moving forward, I am proud you found the fight
Sir Derek truly fitting name for someone willing to suppport a newibie as an equal.

All of the others that I have not mentioned please do not take offense or disrespect for not being mentioned here. I have not chatted or spoken with you, we still have many more days of our life long battle together to get to know one another.

As I began this post I am in a reflective place, and thought I should share my thoughts about the past two weeks. I will end with this quote from my youth by the bouncing souls " together we are what we can't be alone"

This is what's it's all about ... summed up nicely on a day 14. This post struck a chord, made my quit stronger ... and for that I thank you! You're a quitter, a damn strong one, and I like it. Keep the toolbox open at all times. Thanks brother!