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Offline THansen2413

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2014, 04:27:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Please make no mistake BRD, reading that kind of stuff just helps me pick my head up when shit is hitting the perverbial fan. I'm not Superman. I need support too. I'm just another addict trying to help, and in return, looking for and getting help from other addicts like you. You newer guys need to get it in your heads that YOU all are helping just as much as you think 'we' are.

Quit on brother.
some good shit here ^^
BRD, the first time around you just stuck your toe in the water, but this time you jumped right in; what a difference! This is one of the reasons new quitters need to read intro threads. Posting roll is the cornerstone of KTC, but you don't have a building if you stop at the cornerstone... You are a great example of owning your quit by working your quit. I promise you that one day soon your quit will become much easier, but until then keep working it balls out brother! QLF with you all day! Woo! I'm fired up now baby, great stuff going on here!
You're shaping up to be a bad ass quitter. I'm damned proud to be quit with you, Red.
Red... this is awesome!! Man, I feel like walking outside and punching the nic bitch clean in the uterus! Keep up the good fight brother.
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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2014, 04:24:00 PM »
Dude, you are true inspiration. I'm honored to be quitting with you.

King Solomon was right:

"Two are better than one...
If either of them falls down, one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up.
Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken."


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If you settle for nothing now, you'll settle for nothing later.
If you don't take action now, you won't take action later.

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2014, 02:23:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Please make no mistake BRD, reading that kind of stuff just helps me pick my head up when shit is hitting the perverbial fan. I'm not Superman. I need support too. I'm just another addict trying to help, and in return, looking for and getting help from other addicts like you. You newer guys need to get it in your heads that YOU all are helping just as much as you think 'we' are.

Quit on brother.
some good shit here ^^
BRD, the first time around you just stuck your toe in the water, but this time you jumped right in; what a difference! This is one of the reasons new quitters need to read intro threads. Posting roll is the cornerstone of KTC, but you don't have a building if you stop at the cornerstone... You are a great example of owning your quit by working your quit. I promise you that one day soon your quit will become much easier, but until then keep working it balls out brother! QLF with you all day! Woo! I'm fired up now baby, great stuff going on here!
You're shaping up to be a bad ass quitter. I'm damned proud to be quit with you, Red.
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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2014, 08:22:00 AM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Please make no mistake BRD, reading that kind of stuff just helps me pick my head up when shit is hitting the perverbial fan. I'm not Superman. I need support too. I'm just another addict trying to help, and in return, looking for and getting help from other addicts like you. You newer guys need to get it in your heads that YOU all are helping just as much as you think 'we' are.

Quit on brother.
some good shit here ^^
BRD, the first time around you just stuck your toe in the water, but this time you jumped right in; what a difference! This is one of the reasons new quitters need to read intro threads. Posting roll is the cornerstone of KTC, but you don't have a building if you stop at the cornerstone... You are a great example of owning your quit by working your quit. I promise you that one day soon your quit will become much easier, but until then keep working it balls out brother! QLF with you all day! Woo! I'm fired up now baby, great stuff going on here!

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2014, 07:46:00 AM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Please make no mistake BRD, reading that kind of stuff just helps me pick my head up when shit is hitting the perverbial fan. I'm not Superman. I need support too. I'm just another addict trying to help, and in return, looking for and getting help from other addicts like you. You newer guys need to get it in your heads that YOU all are helping just as much as you think 'we' are.

Quit on brother.
some good shit here ^^

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2014, 07:36:00 AM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Please make no mistake BRD, reading that kind of stuff just helps me pick my head up when shit is hitting the perverbial fan. I'm not Superman. I need support too. I'm just another addict trying to help, and in return, looking for and getting help from other addicts like you. You newer guys need to get it in your heads that YOU all are helping just as much as you think 'we' are.

Quit on brother.
What is your major malfunction?!?!?!?!

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2014, 02:51:00 AM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
I'm not gonna lie Norlaq, when you comment positively on one of my posts, it's like my Dad walked in the room and patted me on the back! Thanks for everything you've done to help me kick the nic-B to the curb!
Quit date: July 24,2014
HOF date: October 31, 2014
HOF speech: You're an idiot if you still dip.

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"When I am weak, He is strong!" II Corinthians 12:10

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2014, 07:56:00 PM »
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I'm trying very hard to reinforce to myself that I don't crave. I don't use Tobacco so why would I crave it? I don't crave raw Sushi, rocky mountain oysters, huffing paint or getting banged in the ass, so why would I crave nicotine? I don't dip Copenhagon, nor do I enjoy it. "Craving" it, gives it power over me. Now, I am addicted to Nicotine, always will be and the Nic Bitch tries to tell me that I want, need and desire her, but she is a liar. I severed the dysfunctinal relationship I had with her. I don't dip!

This is a quote from a post on the October '14 Titans board and I want to remember it. I love this idea! I wouldn't say it exactly like this hahah but I love it and I'm going to use it!

Why should I crave something that I don't do? Why should I crave something that I don't enjoy and didn't enjoy even when I did it?

"I DON'T DIP" that's my new mantra

Thanks for posting this Tom! I love the way you quit!
Bigreddude44-
You've got a strong QUIT going on and you are motivating others to stay QUIT. I really enjoy your commitment to stay QUIT and help others. BIGREDUDE you make my quit stronger and I appreciate that.

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2014, 06:27:00 PM »
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I'm trying very hard to reinforce to myself that I don't crave. I don't use Tobacco so why would I crave it? I don't crave raw Sushi, rocky mountain oysters, huffing paint or getting banged in the ass, so why would I crave nicotine? I don't dip Copenhagon, nor do I enjoy it. "Craving" it, gives it power over me. Now, I am addicted to Nicotine, always will be and the Nic Bitch tries to tell me that I want, need and desire her, but she is a liar. I severed the dysfunctinal relationship I had with her. I don't dip!

This is a quote from a post on the October '14 Titans board and I want to remember it. I love this idea! I wouldn't say it exactly like this hahah but I love it and I'm going to use it!

Why should I crave something that I don't do? Why should I crave something that I don't enjoy and didn't enjoy even when I did it?

"I DON'T DIP" that's my new mantra

Thanks for posting this Tom! I love the way you quit!
Quit date: July 24,2014
HOF date: October 31, 2014
HOF speech: You're an idiot if you still dip.

my intro

"When I am weak, He is strong!" II Corinthians 12:10

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2014, 04:40:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
The difference in your QUIT is noticeable, even to someone who didn't see the first one.
You're a huge part of our Group QUIT and I thank-you for that. QLF ODAAT

Tom
Thanks bro!

I will quit with you all day long!

#texasforever!
Quit date: July 24,2014
HOF date: October 31, 2014
HOF speech: You're an idiot if you still dip.

my intro

"When I am weak, He is strong!" II Corinthians 12:10

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2014, 04:08:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
The difference in your QUIT is noticeable, even to someone who didn't see the first one.
You're a huge part of our Group QUIT and I thank-you for that. QLF ODAAT

Tom

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2014, 04:07:00 PM »
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Day 8.
The fog has finally lifted! That was 4 days of pure hell! I intended to write this post 3 days ago but have been too brain dead to formulate a sentence but I feel 1000% percent better now than I have since I quit so I'm going to give it a go

I want to remember how hard I had to work in the beginning to solidify my quit for my future self.

Here is a list of the things in no particular order that I'm doing to stay quit at this point.


6. Popping the rubber band on my wrist every time I want a dip.
Wonder where you got that one from......

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2014, 04:05:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
Well done, BRD, well done!
Quit since 1/23/14

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2014, 03:55:00 PM »
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Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
I just got Quit wood!

Way to go BRD!
What is your major malfunction?!?!?!?!

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Re: BigRedDude
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2014, 03:52:00 PM »
Quote from: BigRedDude44
Bigreddude44 -day 13 - I'll never be on day 12 again!
This is my roll post from February 14, 2013 during my last failed attempt at quitting. Its pretty much a kick in the face because here I am, AGAIN, on day 12. However, it is also a reminder to me of the stark differences between that day 12 and this day 12.

That day 12
I had zero numbers in my phone.
I communicated with no one about my quit.
I felt like I was all alone.
Posting roll was just about all I did to work on my quit.
I was consumed with the thought of how awful life without snuff was going to be.
I never considered helping someone on the edge of a cave.

This day 12
I have 11 numbers in my phone.
I communicate everyday with almost all of them.
I feel like, no I know that I am not alone in this.
Posting roll is just the beginning of what I do every day to work on my quit.
I am consumed with the thought of how awesome a life without snuff will be.
I am a crusader for those on edge of a cave. - Seriously, talking someone off of a ledge fires me up! Hit me up! I will fight for you!

I could go on and on but suffice it to say the differences between then and now are vast.

Last time I was playing quit, this time I am quit.
Quit date: July 24,2014
HOF date: October 31, 2014
HOF speech: You're an idiot if you still dip.

my intro

"When I am weak, He is strong!" II Corinthians 12:10