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Offline Erussell

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2014, 08:35:00 PM »
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Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
I used to nag my dad about quitting smoking as my ninja a$$ dipped away. Man was I lost and a total hypocrite. Damn glad to be quit.
It's genocide plain and simple at this point. Not sure what to think about all the nic replacement products and their role.
Suicide on the instalment plan... Big tobacco execs have a special place in hell reserved for them.
Never again Apple.

Funny, 453 days later, I'm yet to go into the gas station that I bought 95% of my dip from. Part of me wants to go in just to see if the guy asks "1 or 2 cans today?". I'd like to video his reaction when I tell him I'm quit. I don't think he would be skeptical or angry that I caused a huge decline in their sales (gas and dip). He always looked at me in astonishment that I dipped so much. He would ask how long I had been doing it for, almost as if he was shocked that I was alive.
I did have a norm local station to buy from a few years back. A local station that also does repairs in a small town just outside Chattanooga. The owner is well known and loved. He has been there for over thirty years. We would all stop in early every morning before work get our caffeine, breakfast, and our nicotine. Until one morning when we all rolled in and wow.......
Me; Dwayne where did you move the Copenhagen, and the rest of the smokes and dip???
Dwayne; yep,,,,,, I moved it out!
Me; (confused) ??what??
Dwayne; I love you guys too much to continue to make money off your deaths.
Me; that's just stupid we will just get it elsewhere
Dwayne; well then at least I didn't sell it to you so when at your funeral I won't feel responsible.
Me; ok whatever.

That was almost two years ago. I have since moved to the other side of town to north GA but still know Dwayne, yea....... I am gonna send him a text tonight and thank him for what he did, while it seamed so stupid to me then now it is huge! I hadn't thought of this event until I read your post apple. Your a bad ass! Erussell at 252 days just behind the bad ass apple!
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #172 on: January 05, 2014, 10:29:00 PM »
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Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
I used to nag my dad about quitting smoking as my ninja a$$ dipped away. Man was I lost and a total hypocrite. Damn glad to be quit.
It's genocide plain and simple at this point. Not sure what to think about all the nic replacement products and their role.
Suicide on the instalment plan... Big tobacco execs have a special place in hell reserved for them.
Never again Apple.

Funny, 453 days later, I'm yet to go into the gas station that I bought 95% of my dip from. Part of me wants to go in just to see if the guy asks "1 or 2 cans today?". I'd like to video his reaction when I tell him I'm quit. I don't think he would be skeptical or angry that I caused a huge decline in their sales (gas and dip). He always looked at me in astonishment that I dipped so much. He would ask how long I had been doing it for, almost as if he was shocked that I was alive.
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #171 on: January 05, 2014, 08:29:00 PM »
AJ, thank you for , well, everything. You have a PHD in quit.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #170 on: January 05, 2014, 08:20:00 PM »
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Quote from: AppleJack
Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
I used to nag my dad about quitting smoking as my ninja a$$ dipped away. Man was I lost and a total hypocrite. Damn glad to be quit.
It's genocide plain and simple at this point. Not sure what to think about all the nic replacement products and their role.
Suicide on the instalment plan... Big tobacco execs have a special place in hell reserved for them.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #169 on: January 05, 2014, 07:58:00 PM »
It's sad. I've seen it myself. We have all been on that side of it. Once you connect the dots it is eye opening. Tobacco will kill you. AJ you were the first dude to reach out to me on this site. You helped me open my eyes and connect the dots. I thank you for that. I'm quit with you brother.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #168 on: January 05, 2014, 07:43:00 PM »
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Quote from: AppleJack
Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
I used to nag my dad about quitting smoking as my ninja a$$ dipped away. Man was I lost and a total hypocrite. Damn glad to be quit.
It's genocide plain and simple at this point. Not sure what to think about all the nic replacement products and their role.
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2014, 06:45:00 PM »
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Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
I used to nag my dad about quitting smoking as my ninja a$$ dipped away. Man was I lost and a total hypocrite. Damn glad to be quit.
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #166 on: January 05, 2014, 04:50:00 PM »
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Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
This is awesome. Strength to keep pounding ODAAT. Thanks for the tale AJ
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2014, 04:45:00 PM »
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Amen to that word bro. I gues it isn't until the claws of nicotine are pried off our flesh AND out of our minds, are we truely able to see what nicotine does to those around us. The FDA is a joke and tobacco is their punch line.
Thanks for the read aj. Dots connected.
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #164 on: January 05, 2014, 03:51:00 PM »
Amen to that word bro. I gues it isn't until the claws of nicotine are pried off our flesh AND out of our minds, are we truely able to see what nicotine does to those around us. The FDA is a joke and tobacco is their punch line.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #163 on: January 05, 2014, 03:40:00 PM »
Connecting the dots...

I have a gas station that I frequent and, yes, it was a chief supplier of all my chew. They still get alot of money from me but... minus the death weed. I avoided this place for awhile but have recently started going again. Fear of caving was the first motivator. Now? I'm quit. I don't worry about it. It's an opportunity to thumb my nose at big tobacco every other day or so.

Anyway... I stopped in today to fill both our vehicles up. I know all these guys pretty well. We shoot the breeze and I know about their lives in general. Remember... these cats saw me EVERY freakin' day for years! The manager, Joe, is a pretty young guy and the perfect kinda guy to run this place... very amiable and easy to chat with. As I was filling the last car, we got to chatting and it comes out that his granddad passed away Thursday.

Damn. Sorry man.

With lovely affection he starts to talk about his grandpa and his fight for his health. As this conversation rolls along I learn that his gramps passed from cancer... and his mom... and his aunt... and an uncle. Cancer is a real presence in his family. As this conversation rolls along further I learn that his aunt, uncle, and grandpa are tobacco users of various forms. Damn. Even worse because, obviously, that really hits home with me. With tears in his eyes, Joe talks about all this, with HEAVY emotion... while the biggest wad of Kodiak I have ever seen is filling his lip. I can smell it. I can practically taste it.

AJ shakes his head

The incongruities of life blow my mind sometimes. This guy hasn't connected the dots yet. Tobacco is death.

264 days quit today.
FU big tobacco.
I connected the dots and I see the big picture.

Quit. Free.
Well, it’s one louder, isn’t it? It’s not ten.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #162 on: December 13, 2013, 08:47:00 PM »
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Quote from: worktowin
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Day 241

Started a new band project! This is something I've been moving toward for more than a year. Getting it thought out, recruiting the right guys, covering all angles, revising schedules, studio time, rehearsal space, writing time, blah, blah, blah. We had our first meeting last night and I'm giddy like it's Christmas eve! This is the first time in years where my music work will be... my work. Not a commercial project, not a hired gun... my/our stuff. Merry Freakin' Christmas to me!

So, this first get together is to hash out logistics. How will we go about the process, what do we want to move toward, etc. My house/home studio is the logical choice to meet. The guys start arriving and I'm just stoked! I've played music with most of these guys for close to 10 years and a few of them are VERY good friends... more like family really. As some of us are standing at the door my bass player arrives. I'll call him Joe. We greet, I hand out beers, and I chat him up for a bit.

Um... something is off.

I'm looking at him and wondering what the hell it is and then it hits me like a truck. He's got a dip in!! WTF!? This man who I've known for years, spent hour upon hour with, been to his house, rode in his car... has a dip in! Now, granted, in that room I was the only one who noticed because of my own ninja credentials. He had in what I called the "polite party dip". Enough to feed the need but hidden enough in the pocket so as not to be seen. I saw it. How did I not know? How on earth did I NOT KNOW!? It literally blew my mind. I thought I was the good ninja... Joe kicked my ass! Anyway, the night goes off without a hitch. The meeting is full of energy and everyone is looking forward to this project. However, at the back of my mind, all night, I'm still in a state of "wtf!?". I'm at work this morning and it's still buggin' me and I'm not sure why. Not like I'm unfamiliar with people who dip! I gotta admit I had flashes of jealousy. Wishing it was still me a little bit. Stupid addict brain sigh Anyway... as I'm thinking about it, it slowly begins to dawn on me that I'm actually thinking a little bit less of my friend Joe. How could he!? What a sneak! What a liar! What a slave! What a... oh... yeah. That was me. For 25 years.

I was pretty ashamed of myself. But for God's grace and KTC that would have been me last night. Easily. I'm glad to have caught a glimpse of that "old me" again. This new me is MUCH better off.

Throughout this project it will be my goal to, as gently as possible, eduacte him. Point him towards this awesome brotherhood. Show him what real freedom is.

Rock on...
Wow! What a revelation for you brother! I can understand how that is burning in your mind. Ultimately you see yourself and you wish you could just shake and wake him up. It's hard to see someone you care about live as a slave. And the news of him being a slave is likely just as discerning. Anyway that's not you anymore and hopefully he comes to the light, but you my friend are in the light!
Good job Apple. As you know, quitting is a personal decision. Maybe he isn't ready; maybe he is ready but scared (hence the polite ninja dip). Don't let his decision to slowly kill himself cause you to look at him with anger, just pitty.

He's still a friend. Have you thought about pulling him aside and saying, "Dude, I never knew you dipped. I bet you never knew that I dipped. But I quit 241 days ago. Do you want to quit?"
Evil is striking a chord. I have a lady that works for me whose husband dips. A lot. And she was telling me this week about his high bp, acid reflux, anxiety, cancer scares...

No one knows I did this. With the exception of my wife. But I'm beginning to think... My life is do much better, I owe it to her to say something. Not there yet, but getting closer.

AJ - think about it. You've sure helped a lot on here and I'm sure feel satisfaction from that. No need to push, but Evils suggestion seems perfect. I may follow the advice myself....
I agree guys. Completely!

Pity is the exact feeling here. And, Evil, I agree... Taking him aside and establishing that connection will be the way to go. Slow and steady. That's how I'm gonna handle this.
This guy would be one lucky SOB to have a quitter like you in his corner.

Not everyone is ready to quit but I believe that everyone that has been using this shit for a decade or so wants to quit. Some dont know that they want it and most are afraid to try.

Keep your quit close.

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #161 on: December 13, 2013, 07:25:00 PM »
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Quote from: AppleJack
Day 241

Started a new band project! This is something I've been moving toward for more than a year. Getting it thought out, recruiting the right guys, covering all angles, revising schedules, studio time, rehearsal space, writing time, blah, blah, blah. We had our first meeting last night and I'm giddy like it's Christmas eve! This is the first time in years where my music work will be... my work. Not a commercial project, not a hired gun... my/our stuff. Merry Freakin' Christmas to me!

So, this first get together is to hash out logistics. How will we go about the process, what do we want to move toward, etc. My house/home studio is the logical choice to meet. The guys start arriving and I'm just stoked! I've played music with most of these guys for close to 10 years and a few of them are VERY good friends... more like family really. As some of us are standing at the door my bass player arrives. I'll call him Joe. We greet, I hand out beers, and I chat him up for a bit.

Um... something is off.

I'm looking at him and wondering what the hell it is and then it hits me like a truck. He's got a dip in!! WTF!? This man who I've known for years, spent hour upon hour with, been to his house, rode in his car... has a dip in! Now, granted, in that room I was the only one who noticed because of my own ninja credentials. He had in what I called the "polite party dip". Enough to feed the need but hidden enough in the pocket so as not to be seen. I saw it. How did I not know? How on earth did I NOT KNOW!? It literally blew my mind. I thought I was the good ninja... Joe kicked my ass! Anyway, the night goes off without a hitch. The meeting is full of energy and everyone is looking forward to this project. However, at the back of my mind, all night, I'm still in a state of "wtf!?". I'm at work this morning and it's still buggin' me and I'm not sure why. Not like I'm unfamiliar with people who dip! I gotta admit I had flashes of jealousy. Wishing it was still me a little bit. Stupid addict brain sigh Anyway... as I'm thinking about it, it slowly begins to dawn on me that I'm actually thinking a little bit less of my friend Joe. How could he!? What a sneak! What a liar! What a slave! What a... oh... yeah. That was me. For 25 years.

I was pretty ashamed of myself. But for God's grace and KTC that would have been me last night. Easily. I'm glad to have caught a glimpse of that "old me" again. This new me is MUCH better off.

Throughout this project it will be my goal to, as gently as possible, eduacte him. Point him towards this awesome brotherhood. Show him what real freedom is.

Rock on...
Wow! What a revelation for you brother! I can understand how that is burning in your mind. Ultimately you see yourself and you wish you could just shake and wake him up. It's hard to see someone you care about live as a slave. And the news of him being a slave is likely just as discerning. Anyway that's not you anymore and hopefully he comes to the light, but you my friend are in the light!
Good job Apple. As you know, quitting is a personal decision. Maybe he isn't ready; maybe he is ready but scared (hence the polite ninja dip). Don't let his decision to slowly kill himself cause you to look at him with anger, just pitty.

He's still a friend. Have you thought about pulling him aside and saying, "Dude, I never knew you dipped. I bet you never knew that I dipped. But I quit 241 days ago. Do you want to quit?"
Evil is striking a chord. I have a lady that works for me whose husband dips. A lot. And she was telling me this week about his high bp, acid reflux, anxiety, cancer scares...

No one knows I did this. With the exception of my wife. But I'm beginning to think... My life is do much better, I owe it to her to say something. Not there yet, but getting closer.

AJ - think about it. You've sure helped a lot on here and I'm sure feel satisfaction from that. No need to push, but Evils suggestion seems perfect. I may follow the advice myself....

I agree guys. Completely!

Pity is the exact feeling here. And, Evil, I agree... Taking him aside and establishing that connection will be the way to go. Slow and steady. That's how I'm gonna handle this.
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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #160 on: December 13, 2013, 07:03:00 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: AppleJack
Day 241

Started a new band project! This is something I've been moving toward for more than a year. Getting it thought out, recruiting the right guys, covering all angles, revising schedules, studio time, rehearsal space, writing time, blah, blah, blah. We had our first meeting last night and I'm giddy like it's Christmas eve! This is the first time in years where my music work will be... my work. Not a commercial project, not a hired gun... my/our stuff. Merry Freakin' Christmas to me!

So, this first get together is to hash out logistics. How will we go about the process, what do we want to move toward, etc. My house/home studio is the logical choice to meet. The guys start arriving and I'm just stoked! I've played music with most of these guys for close to 10 years and a few of them are VERY good friends... more like family really. As some of us are standing at the door my bass player arrives. I'll call him Joe. We greet, I hand out beers, and I chat him up for a bit.

Um... something is off.

I'm looking at him and wondering what the hell it is and then it hits me like a truck. He's got a dip in!! WTF!? This man who I've known for years, spent hour upon hour with, been to his house, rode in his car... has a dip in! Now, granted, in that room I was the only one who noticed because of my own ninja credentials. He had in what I called the "polite party dip". Enough to feed the need but hidden enough in the pocket so as not to be seen. I saw it. How did I not know? How on earth did I NOT KNOW!? It literally blew my mind. I thought I was the good ninja... Joe kicked my ass! Anyway, the night goes off without a hitch. The meeting is full of energy and everyone is looking forward to this project. However, at the back of my mind, all night, I'm still in a state of "wtf!?". I'm at work this morning and it's still buggin' me and I'm not sure why. Not like I'm unfamiliar with people who dip! I gotta admit I had flashes of jealousy. Wishing it was still me a little bit. Stupid addict brain sigh Anyway... as I'm thinking about it, it slowly begins to dawn on me that I'm actually thinking a little bit less of my friend Joe. How could he!? What a sneak! What a liar! What a slave! What a... oh... yeah. That was me. For 25 years.

I was pretty ashamed of myself. But for God's grace and KTC that would have been me last night. Easily. I'm glad to have caught a glimpse of that "old me" again. This new me is MUCH better off.

Throughout this project it will be my goal to, as gently as possible, eduacte him. Point him towards this awesome brotherhood. Show him what real freedom is.

Rock on...
Wow! What a revelation for you brother! I can understand how that is burning in your mind. Ultimately you see yourself and you wish you could just shake and wake him up. It's hard to see someone you care about live as a slave. And the news of him being a slave is likely just as discerning. Anyway that's not you anymore and hopefully he comes to the light, but you my friend are in the light!
Good job Apple. As you know, quitting is a personal decision. Maybe he isn't ready; maybe he is ready but scared (hence the polite ninja dip). Don't let his decision to slowly kill himself cause you to look at him with anger, just pitty.

He's still a friend. Have you thought about pulling him aside and saying, "Dude, I never knew you dipped. I bet you never knew that I dipped. But I quit 241 days ago. Do you want to quit?"
Evil is striking a chord. I have a lady that works for me whose husband dips. A lot. And she was telling me this week about his high bp, acid reflux, anxiety, cancer scares...

No one knows I did this. With the exception of my wife. But I'm beginning to think... My life is do much better, I owe it to her to say something. Not there yet, but getting closer.

AJ - think about it. You've sure helped a lot on here and I'm sure feel satisfaction from that. No need to push, but Evils suggestion seems perfect. I may follow the advice myself....

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Re: Day 1... I quit
« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2013, 05:37:00 PM »
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: AppleJack
Day 241

Started a new band project! This is something I've been moving toward for more than a year. Getting it thought out, recruiting the right guys, covering all angles, revising schedules, studio time, rehearsal space, writing time, blah, blah, blah. We had our first meeting last night and I'm giddy like it's Christmas eve! This is the first time in years where my music work will be... my work. Not a commercial project, not a hired gun... my/our stuff. Merry Freakin' Christmas to me!

So, this first get together is to hash out logistics. How will we go about the process, what do we want to move toward, etc. My house/home studio is the logical choice to meet. The guys start arriving and I'm just stoked! I've played music with most of these guys for close to 10 years and a few of them are VERY good friends... more like family really. As some of us are standing at the door my bass player arrives. I'll call him Joe. We greet, I hand out beers, and I chat him up for a bit.

Um... something is off.

I'm looking at him and wondering what the hell it is and then it hits me like a truck. He's got a dip in!! WTF!? This man who I've known for years, spent hour upon hour with, been to his house, rode in his car... has a dip in! Now, granted, in that room I was the only one who noticed because of my own ninja credentials. He had in what I called the "polite party dip". Enough to feed the need but hidden enough in the pocket so as not to be seen. I saw it. How did I not know? How on earth did I NOT KNOW!? It literally blew my mind. I thought I was the good ninja... Joe kicked my ass! Anyway, the night goes off without a hitch. The meeting is full of energy and everyone is looking forward to this project. However, at the back of my mind, all night, I'm still in a state of "wtf!?". I'm at work this morning and it's still buggin' me and I'm not sure why. Not like I'm unfamiliar with people who dip! I gotta admit I had flashes of jealousy. Wishing it was still me a little bit. Stupid addict brain sigh Anyway... as I'm thinking about it, it slowly begins to dawn on me that I'm actually thinking a little bit less of my friend Joe. How could he!? What a sneak! What a liar! What a slave! What a... oh... yeah. That was me. For 25 years.

I was pretty ashamed of myself. But for God's grace and KTC that would have been me last night. Easily. I'm glad to have caught a glimpse of that "old me" again. This new me is MUCH better off.

Throughout this project it will be my goal to, as gently as possible, eduacte him. Point him towards this awesome brotherhood. Show him what real freedom is.

Rock on...
Wow! What a revelation for you brother! I can understand how that is burning in your mind. Ultimately you see yourself and you wish you could just shake and wake him up. It's hard to see someone you care about live as a slave. And the news of him being a slave is likely just as discerning. Anyway that's not you anymore and hopefully he comes to the light, but you my friend are in the light!
Good job Apple. As you know, quitting is a personal decision. Maybe he isn't ready; maybe he is ready but scared (hence the polite ninja dip). Don't let his decision to slowly kill himself cause you to look at him with anger, just pitty.

He's still a friend. Have you thought about pulling him aside and saying, "Dude, I never knew you dipped. I bet you never knew that I dipped. But I quit 241 days ago. Do you want to quit?"
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