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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2013, 11:28:00 AM »
For those of you who read this....

I know this has been more of a journal for myself, and this entry will serve as that, but also the answers you provide.

The other day my family had a get together. Well, some of the family smokes so there was exposure to second hand. I noticed the day following that I was rather cranky, sort of how I was early on in the quit. Prior to this event I noticed my mood improving. So here lies the question/concern:

Does my exposure to secondhand put nic back in my system for another three days? I didn't stand there inhaling it, but throughout the night I would get wiffs, and at one point I walked through a cloud of smoke (unintentionally). Don't worry, I didn't cave, and it's not like my cravings were as strong as they were in the first days, I was just moody and foggy.

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #67 on: July 27, 2013, 02:29:00 PM »
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well if you have a crave and you want to put a fake one in, i doubt you'd have a hard time swallowing it...its not bad for you and i imagine you swallowed on occasion when you were dipping for real...just a thought
I was never a swallower.... on purpose... Sometimes there is just too much that its hard not to swallow a little bit, but usually I would spit. On occasion it would dribble a little bit too
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2013, 01:29:00 PM »
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well if you have a crave and you want to put a fake one in, i doubt you'd have a hard time swallowing it...its not bad for you and i imagine you swallowed on occasion when you were dipping for real...just a thought
I was never a swallower.... on purpose... Sometimes there is just too much that its hard not to swallow a little bit, but usually I would spit. On occasion it would dribble a little bit too
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #65 on: July 27, 2013, 01:22:00 PM »
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well if you have a crave and you want to put a fake one in, i doubt you'd have a hard time swallowing it...its not bad for you and i imagine you swallowed on occasion when you were dipping for real...just a thought
I was never a swallower.... on purpose... Sometimes there is just too much that its hard not to swallow a little bit, but usually I would spit. On occasion it would dribble a little bit too

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
well if you have a crave and you want to put a fake one in, i doubt you'd have a hard time swallowing it...its not bad for you and i imagine you swallowed on occasion when you were dipping for real...just a thought
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2013, 01:11:00 PM »
Today is day 34.

I just got my first (and hopefully only) order of Jakes Mint Chew. I got that sample pack. As soon as it got here I really want to try it, but I feel as if this is a craving brought on simply by curiosity. I thought about it for a moment and the thought of spitting right now is gross, especially since we are about to have a huge family party (don't want that stuff in my lip). However, I know next time I am writing in the studio I will crave a chew, because that usually happens, so I am glad to have this stuff on stand by. Put them all in my workstation for that purpose.

I feel like I had more to say when I started this, but since day 30 I have hit a fog and am a little out of it. My uncle is coming today, and he hates a lot of my neighbors who are also coming. He drinks a lot and loses his filter so..... 'Popcorn'

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2013, 12:00:00 AM »
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Day 24,

DAMNIT today sucks...

The cravings are getting pretty bad. I am not falling in to the idea of "one more won't hurt", but instead the "it sucks so bad why am I doing this to myself, I can just dip". I find my subconscious saying how I am young, I haven't dipped long so I am not at any real risk right now. It's never going to change, every day for the rest of my life is going to be like the past week has been, so why not just dip and enjoy life?

Then my conscious mind kicks my subconscious in the nuts and I know better. The problem is, this fucking sucks. This is so miserable right now. Like a mother soothes a crying child, my sub mind wants the embrace of the nic bitch to calm it. It's ripping my reality apart.

At day 24 I know this isn't nic in my system, but instead my mind playing tricks on itself. Due to the habits I formed I can't work without craving a chew. I told myself I wouldn't use the fake stuff out of fear it may seem too real and result in a cave, but now I wonder if I should get some for moments like this. Seeds have created a tremendous amount of pain in my mouth from the salt on the healing wounds, and my jaw is killing me from gum mixed with TMJ issues. I believe the issue at hand is no longer the desire to have the chemical and drug in my system, however it's the act of placing something in that little socket between lip and gum and spitting in to the bottle.

Sigh.... What a trip this has been.

Eor ... Remember this day. This has been going on for several days, and if this is not the worse day then remember tomorrow and the next.

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. You're an idiot and an addict. When you read this next you will still be an addict, and probably an idiot too, but neither reason is good enough to cave.

Remember WHY you wanted to stay tobacco free.

Sincerely,

Your stupid self.
That's good stuff man! You called it right - it is hard as fuck - it's also so worth it. Glad to see you've recorded the suck, makes it harder to forget. Reading this post of yours should be part of your quit plan man. 24 days in, 24 days of freedom, 24 days of suck. If you fail to quit are you ready to re-do those 24 days? Sound good? I know I don't ever want to go through another day 3. Knowing that helps keep me strong.
Nice post. Stay strong today. If u are thinking about buying some fake chew cuz it will help then do it. If it don't help then throw it out. I thought the same way about it being too close. It isn't. It is just something to keep u occupied. Fake dip won't make u cave. You are the only thing that can make yourself cave. You sound locked in to me. Stay on it. I am quit with you.
Things started to improve for me about where you are. She knows you are serious and boy is she pissed! Hang tight. Things are about to improve as I said. Fu nic.
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2013, 08:00:00 PM »
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Day 24,

DAMNIT today sucks...

The cravings are getting pretty bad. I am not falling in to the idea of "one more won't hurt", but instead the "it sucks so bad why am I doing this to myself, I can just dip". I find my subconscious saying how I am young, I haven't dipped long so I am not at any real risk right now. It's never going to change, every day for the rest of my life is going to be like the past week has been, so why not just dip and enjoy life?

Then my conscious mind kicks my subconscious in the nuts and I know better. The problem is, this fucking sucks. This is so miserable right now. Like a mother soothes a crying child, my sub mind wants the embrace of the nic bitch to calm it. It's ripping my reality apart.

At day 24 I know this isn't nic in my system, but instead my mind playing tricks on itself. Due to the habits I formed I can't work without craving a chew. I told myself I wouldn't use the fake stuff out of fear it may seem too real and result in a cave, but now I wonder if I should get some for moments like this. Seeds have created a tremendous amount of pain in my mouth from the salt on the healing wounds, and my jaw is killing me from gum mixed with TMJ issues. I believe the issue at hand is no longer the desire to have the chemical and drug in my system, however it's the act of placing something in that little socket between lip and gum and spitting in to the bottle.

Sigh.... What a trip this has been.

Eor ... Remember this day. This has been going on for several days, and if this is not the worse day then remember tomorrow and the next.

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. You're an idiot and an addict. When you read this next you will still be an addict, and probably an idiot too, but neither reason is good enough to cave.

Remember WHY you wanted to stay tobacco free.

Sincerely,

Your stupid self.
That's good stuff man! You called it right - it is hard as fuck - it's also so worth it. Glad to see you've recorded the suck, makes it harder to forget. Reading this post of yours should be part of your quit plan man. 24 days in, 24 days of freedom, 24 days of suck. If you fail to quit are you ready to re-do those 24 days? Sound good? I know I don't ever want to go through another day 3. Knowing that helps keep me strong.
Nice post. Stay strong today. If u are thinking about buying some fake chew cuz it will help then do it. If it don't help then throw it out. I thought the same way about it being too close. It isn't. It is just something to keep u occupied. Fake dip won't make u cave. You are the only thing that can make yourself cave. You sound locked in to me. Stay on it. I am quit with you.
Things started to improve for me about where you are. She knows you are serious and boy is she pissed! Hang tight. Things are about to improve as I said. Fu nic.

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2013, 06:26:00 PM »
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Day 24,

DAMNIT today sucks...

The cravings are getting pretty bad. I am not falling in to the idea of "one more won't hurt", but instead the "it sucks so bad why am I doing this to myself, I can just dip". I find my subconscious saying how I am young, I haven't dipped long so I am not at any real risk right now. It's never going to change, every day for the rest of my life is going to be like the past week has been, so why not just dip and enjoy life?

Then my conscious mind kicks my subconscious in the nuts and I know better. The problem is, this fucking sucks. This is so miserable right now. Like a mother soothes a crying child, my sub mind wants the embrace of the nic bitch to calm it. It's ripping my reality apart.

At day 24 I know this isn't nic in my system, but instead my mind playing tricks on itself. Due to the habits I formed I can't work without craving a chew. I told myself I wouldn't use the fake stuff out of fear it may seem too real and result in a cave, but now I wonder if I should get some for moments like this. Seeds have created a tremendous amount of pain in my mouth from the salt on the healing wounds, and my jaw is killing me from gum mixed with TMJ issues. I believe the issue at hand is no longer the desire to have the chemical and drug in my system, however it's the act of placing something in that little socket between lip and gum and spitting in to the bottle.

Sigh.... What a trip this has been.

Eor ... Remember this day. This has been going on for several days, and if this is not the worse day then remember tomorrow and the next.

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. You're an idiot and an addict. When you read this next you will still be an addict, and probably an idiot too, but neither reason is good enough to cave.

Remember WHY you wanted to stay tobacco free.

Sincerely,

Your stupid self.
That's good stuff man! You called it right - it is hard as fuck - it's also so worth it. Glad to see you've recorded the suck, makes it harder to forget. Reading this post of yours should be part of your quit plan man. 24 days in, 24 days of freedom, 24 days of suck. If you fail to quit are you ready to re-do those 24 days? Sound good? I know I don't ever want to go through another day 3. Knowing that helps keep me strong.
Nice post. Stay strong today. If u are thinking about buying some fake chew cuz it will help then do it. If it don't help then throw it out. I thought the same way about it being too close. It isn't. It is just something to keep u occupied. Fake dip won't make u cave. You are the only thing that can make yourself cave. You sound locked in to me. Stay on it. I am quit with you.
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2013, 01:55:00 PM »
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Day 24,

DAMNIT today sucks...

The cravings are getting pretty bad. I am not falling in to the idea of "one more won't hurt", but instead the "it sucks so bad why am I doing this to myself, I can just dip". I find my subconscious saying how I am young, I haven't dipped long so I am not at any real risk right now. It's never going to change, every day for the rest of my life is going to be like the past week has been, so why not just dip and enjoy life?

Then my conscious mind kicks my subconscious in the nuts and I know better. The problem is, this fucking sucks. This is so miserable right now. Like a mother soothes a crying child, my sub mind wants the embrace of the nic bitch to calm it. It's ripping my reality apart.

At day 24 I know this isn't nic in my system, but instead my mind playing tricks on itself. Due to the habits I formed I can't work without craving a chew. I told myself I wouldn't use the fake stuff out of fear it may seem too real and result in a cave, but now I wonder if I should get some for moments like this. Seeds have created a tremendous amount of pain in my mouth from the salt on the healing wounds, and my jaw is killing me from gum mixed with TMJ issues. I believe the issue at hand is no longer the desire to have the chemical and drug in my system, however it's the act of placing something in that little socket between lip and gum and spitting in to the bottle.

Sigh.... What a trip this has been.

Eor ... Remember this day. This has been going on for several days, and if this is not the worse day then remember tomorrow and the next.

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. You're an idiot and an addict. When you read this next you will still be an addict, and probably an idiot too, but neither reason is good enough to cave.

Remember WHY you wanted to stay tobacco free.

Sincerely,

Your stupid self.
That's good stuff man! You called it right - it is hard as fuck - it's also so worth it. Glad to see you've recorded the suck, makes it harder to forget. Reading this post of yours should be part of your quit plan man. 24 days in, 24 days of freedom, 24 days of suck. If you fail to quit are you ready to re-do those 24 days? Sound good? I know I don't ever want to go through another day 3. Knowing that helps keep me strong.
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2013, 01:20:00 PM »
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Also found this link quite helpful to, "see the light at the end of the tunnel" I suppose.
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2013, 01:19:00 PM »
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Hey Eor2012,

I, similar to you, am on day 26. To somewhat comfort you in knowing you're not alone, I am quite miserable also at times fighting with my subconscious bitch telling me its OK. Had no caffeine today, I am still quite jittery feeling that something is missing.

The brain doesn't quite know how to function without its fix. It needs to re learn how to operate.

The veterans promise it does get easier with time

Hang in there, stay quit with us.

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Be very carful here in the 20's! This is where the brain tries to tell you that you have made it far enough to handle an occasional dip! It's a lie! I tried it and it did not work. Many others here have tried as well. One is too many and a thousand is never enough! Stay the course and you will get thru this minor funk. And then after a few weeks a new funk may start. And you will be even stronger to fight that one!

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2013, 01:18:00 PM »
Also found this link quite helpful to, "see the light at the end of the tunnel" I suppose.
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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2013, 01:14:00 PM »
Hey Eor2012,

I, similar to you, am on day 26. To somewhat comfort you in knowing you're not alone, I am quite miserable also at times fighting with my subconscious bitch telling me its OK. Had no caffeine today, I am still quite jittery feeling that something is missing.

The brain doesn't quite know how to function without its fix. It needs to re learn how to operate.

The veterans promise it does get easier with time

Hang in there, stay quit with us.

-Ross8yrs
One day, sometimes one hour at a time.

NEVER give in

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Re: I think this is where I am supposed to be?
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2013, 01:12:00 PM »
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Day 24,

DAMNIT today sucks...

The cravings are getting pretty bad. I am not falling in to the idea of "one more won't hurt", but instead the "it sucks so bad why am I doing this to myself, I can just dip". I find my subconscious saying how I am young, I haven't dipped long so I am not at any real risk right now. It's never going to change, every day for the rest of my life is going to be like the past week has been, so why not just dip and enjoy life?

Then my conscious mind kicks my subconscious in the nuts and I know better. The problem is, this fucking sucks. This is so miserable right now. Like a mother soothes a crying child, my sub mind wants the embrace of the nic bitch to calm it. It's ripping my reality apart.

At day 24 I know this isn't nic in my system, but instead my mind playing tricks on itself. Due to the habits I formed I can't work without craving a chew. I told myself I wouldn't use the fake stuff out of fear it may seem too real and result in a cave, but now I wonder if I should get some for moments like this. Seeds have created a tremendous amount of pain in my mouth from the salt on the healing wounds, and my jaw is killing me from gum mixed with TMJ issues. I believe the issue at hand is no longer the desire to have the chemical and drug in my system, however it's the act of placing something in that little socket between lip and gum and spitting in to the bottle.

Sigh.... What a trip this has been.

Eor ... Remember this day. This has been going on for several days, and if this is not the worse day then remember tomorrow and the next.

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. You're an idiot and an addict. When you read this next you will still be an addict, and probably an idiot too, but neither reason is good enough to cave.

Remember WHY you wanted to stay tobacco free.

Sincerely,

Your stupid self.
And this is why the saying is true...

" Nothing in life worth having is easy!"

We did this to ourselves and it takes a lot of pain to right the damage we have caused! You are doing well and it DOES get better! Keep going!