Day 2

[Doofus]

Rheleaf, this whole recent thread and brewhaha is unfortunate and unnecessary. You alone have the power to end it/ change it.....many options that you control.

I respectfully request that you choose an option so that everyone involved can move on with however they choose to live their life. This mindless pissing contest benefits no one including yourself.

[Leonidas]

Rheleaf, you say you are still nic free, and are not part of April. But you are still a member of KTC. To be ghosting in the quit groups, you need to be nicotine free. The way KTC knows you are nicotine free is your daily roll post. Without that roll post, you are essentially a guest here at KTC. You have the privileges of a member (because you registered) but if you are not posting roll, you do not belong anywhere that only members are allowed to be. When you say getting the benefits of the site through ghosting, are you reading things that only nicotine free, posting members are supposed to be reading? We have texted a lot in the past, but that has slowed since your exit from the site. So now, I am the one confused. What all are you reading through on the site? If you had never registered, you would not be able to read through any of the quit groups. By not being active, I feel like that is where your usage lies, outside of member areas, my feeling, not specifically the law of the land. just my $0.02

Look up Parasite.

Look up ad hominem.

Rheleaf, when you join this site, you are becoming part of a community. As such, there are certain morals and dogma that are adopted by the community, and evolve over time. In a nutshell, the price of admission is posting daily roll. If you are not willing to do this, maybe you should reconsider whether this community is right for you.

Me? I'm an engineer. I have no social skills. These guys put up with me in spite of this.

Thumb through miscomprehend...

[69franx]

Franx,
I see your point, it is valid. Thank you for bringing it up in a polite manner. I Want to thank you for investing your time and efforts in me. Between you, cavman83, Pab, Rewire, and STT I wouldn't be quit.

Polite manner.... yes I get it... I am the shit head you are passively referencing as being the non-polite one.

Do you even understand why I am upset?

I put my guts into April 18, including helping you along.

You get bored with posting and fake (or I really don't know if it's fake, you could be posting in your intro with a fatty in your mouth) cave because you are lazy.....

I get the fact you don't like me.... trust me I'm cool with that, I don't like you.... but I want you quit

I do not want you to get cancer..... this beef between you and me is about me wanting to save your life more than you wanting to save your own....

Are you quit.... I have no freaking idea because you don't promise me and whatever group you should be in....

If you can't see what you are doing (which you think... and maybe is within the rules) isn't one of the most disrespectful acts to the core principals and founders of this site... then you are blind

Stay quit, if I was acting like you in these sacred walls that have saved so many lives I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

- THE MEAN GUY

PREACH ON BROTHER!!!

[Skolvikings]

Franx,
I see your point, it is valid. Thank you for bringing it up in a polite manner. I Want to thank you for investing your time and efforts in me. Between you, cavman83, Pab, Rewire, and STT I wouldn't be quit.

Polite manner.... yes I get it... I am the shit head you are passively referencing as being the non-polite one.

Do you even understand why I am upset?

I put my guts into April 18, including helping you along.

You get bored with posting and fake (or I really don't know if it's fake, you could be posting in your intro with a fatty in your mouth) cave because you are lazy.....

I get the fact you don't like me.... trust me I'm cool with that, I don't like you.... but I want you quit

I do not want you to get cancer..... this beef between you and me is about me wanting to save your life more than you wanting to save your own....

Are you quit.... I have no freaking idea because you don't promise me and whatever group you should be in....

If you can't see what you are doing (which you think... and maybe is within the rules) isn't one of the most disrespectful acts to the core principals and founders of this site... then you are blind

Stay quit, if I was acting like you in these sacred walls that have saved so many lives I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

- THE MEAN GUY

[wildirish317]

Rheleaf, you say you are still nic free, and are not part of April. But you are still a member of KTC. To be ghosting in the quit groups, you need to be nicotine free. The way KTC knows you are nicotine free is your daily roll post. Without that roll post, you are essentially a guest here at KTC. You have the privileges of a member (because you registered) but if you are not posting roll, you do not belong anywhere that only members are allowed to be. When you say getting the benefits of the site through ghosting, are you reading things that only nicotine free, posting members are supposed to be reading? We have texted a lot in the past, but that has slowed since your exit from the site. So now, I am the one confused. What all are you reading through on the site? If you had never registered, you would not be able to read through any of the quit groups. By not being active, I feel like that is where your usage lies, outside of member areas, my feeling, not specifically the law of the land. just my $0.02

Look up Parasite.

Look up ad hominem.

Rheleaf, when you join this site, you are becoming part of a community. As such, there are certain morals and dogma that are adopted by the community, and evolve over time. In a nutshell, the price of admission is posting daily roll. If you are not willing to do this, maybe you should reconsider whether this community is right for you.

Me? I'm an engineer. I have no social skills. These guys put up with me in spite of this.

[Rheleaf]

Franx,
I see your point, it is valid. Thank you for bringing it up in a polite manner. I Want to thank you for investing your time and efforts in me. Between you, cavman83, Pab, Rewire, and STT I wouldn't be quit.

[Leonidas]

Rheleaf, you say you are still nic free, and are not part of April. But you are still a member of KTC. To be ghosting in the quit groups, you need to be nicotine free. The way KTC knows you are nicotine free is your daily roll post. Without that roll post, you are essentially a guest here at KTC. You have the privileges of a member (because you registered) but if you are not posting roll, you do not belong anywhere that only members are allowed to be. When you say getting the benefits of the site through ghosting, are you reading things that only nicotine free, posting members are supposed to be reading? We have texted a lot in the past, but that has slowed since your exit from the site. So now, I am the one confused. What all are you reading through on the site? If you had never registered, you would not be able to read through any of the quit groups. By not being active, I feel like that is where your usage lies, outside of member areas, my feeling, not specifically the law of the land. just my $0.02

Look up Parasite.

[69franx]

Rheleaf, you say you are still nic free, and are not part of April. But you are still a member of KTC. To be ghosting in the quit groups, you need to be nicotine free. The way KTC knows you are nicotine free is your daily roll post. Without that roll post, you are essentially a guest here at KTC. You have the privileges of a member (because you registered) but if you are not posting roll, you do not belong anywhere that only members are allowed to be. When you say getting the benefits of the site through ghosting, are you reading things that only nicotine free, posting members are supposed to be reading? We have texted a lot in the past, but that has slowed since your exit from the site. So now, I am the one confused. What all are you reading through on the site? If you had never registered, you would not be able to read through any of the quit groups. By not being active, I feel like that is where your usage lies, outside of member areas, my feeling, not specifically the law of the land. just my $0.02

[Rheleaf]

here is another p.m.

Rheleaf · Mar 11 2018, 10:00 PMI am not special, I am quit. The benefit of this site is to help people not put that shit in their mouth. Which is done through posting roll. I get it, that's great if that's what works for most. But it is not the only way. In my opinion the only way for success in this battle is not to post roll, not to make friends, not to abide by others schedules, the only way to have success is to not put that fucking shit in my mouth. If I can do that with out posting roll on KTC but verbally telling my wife and kids that everyday when I send them off to school that i wont use nic. (Which i know my kids dont understand because they are 3, but it helps me) and promising myself that i will never put that shit in my body then I'm good. I am not looking for special attention, I am only looking to use KTC to help me stay quit, that's it. That's all I want. I will never post day 1 again. Furthermore, the price of admission here is not posting roll it is staying quit. Posting roll is the price a member pays to post to the public forum. I exited my quit group in about the most disrespectful way possible. Caving with no explanation and no repost of day 1. All i want is to be left alone. I thought that nasty gram I sent to you would've been enough to keep you off my back. But for some reason you are still after me. Please leave me alone to my quit.

[Rheleaf]

in case you missed it in my p.m. to you this is where I told you I am lazy.

Rheleaf · Mar 9 2018, 11:29 PMI will not post anything on this site until I post roll first, per the board guidelines. I have consulted with an administrator, for me to fully "ghost" on this site I had to remove myself from my quit group. So that's what I did my quit is strong 82 days off the can. 55 days per KTC standards. Due to a cig. I had on day 27 of my original quit. It is true, I want the benefit of the KTC community without the work. I may get booted off the site for sending PM's, I don't know how that works. If that happens its ok, as i can ghost as a guest. As far as I know when your not part of a quit group posting roll you can't post to the public forum. But you can still PM. I am sending this to you because you seem to be the Nazi of the group. Ultimately I lied to all of you so I get what I want. Because I am a fat, lazy, self centered, quitter. I am only worried about myself and my quit, that is what is important to me. I dont want to take time out of my busy day to deal with other people's bull shit, and other people's timeline as to what is "late" I make my promise to myself, my wife and my kids. That's what keeps me going, and will continue to keep me going. Along with the fact that my dad got cancer from Nicotine. I was hoping I could deal with the drama in the group for another 45 days getting me to the HOF, and I could exit my quit group with respect. But I'm fed up, and out. 82 days! Do you realize how fucking awesome that is!

[Rheleaf]

it turns out a quitter doesn't need to quit using KTC in the same cold turkey way they quit using nicotine. KTC ultimately is a means to an end. That "end" ultimately is life nicotine free. Now, if a member of this site has cold feet about staying quit without posting roll, then maybe they should continue to post roll. However, if they feel that they are strong in their quit and want to try nicotine free life without posting roll do it. The member can still use the site for the casual reader approach (which is a nice way of saying "ghosting") and can still receive support from the KTC community. it goes right back to take what you need and leave the rest. Yes, I know I am lazy, you know I am lazy because I told you that.

[Skolvikings]

and quit

And lazy

And special

[Rheleaf]

and quit

[Skolvikings]

Take your quit? What does that mean? I donÂ’t want your quit. I want you to be quit. KTC has the formula that has worked for thousands.

Wake up
Piss post promise.

You donÂ’t follow those guide lines. Correct?

Special little butterfly.


You are special.... all the benefits but not the commitment.

LAZY.

[Rheleaf]

when I wrote that I did not realize that admin allowed posting in the introductions was allowed, while not posting roll. From all of the posts I've read that have been brought up by other members of this site, it turns out I can post in the introductions only.

share away all of my p.m.'s I don't care. do whatever you feel you need to do, you can't take my quit.