Finally....an intro (grab a snack before reading)

[magnum9]

Since softball season started I felt the need to do something related to dipping so I bought 3 cans of Smokey Mountain, one Arctic Mint and two Wintergreen.  The stuff is ok and did the job, but I noticed doing it more and more just like back when I was dipping and hiding it.  I was hiding just like I did with the real stuff, and the kicker came when I felt that white, loose stuff in my lower cheek one morning.  My cheek stared to feel rough again like back when I dipped too.  This happened just after using fake a couple times a day over about 3-4 days.  So I said screw it and threw the rest out, now on to nothing.

After all those stupid years of chucking tobacco in my mouth in spite of all the health worries I had, I'm now real in tune with anything that might cause a problem.  After just a couple days the cheek has gone back smooth again and feels normal. 

Don't know if anyone else has experienced this or not, just wanted to share. 

I have friends at the ball field who always have seeds so I guess I get to "bum" those from now on, should the need arise to do anything while on the field.  I also told a couple of my closest friends (non-dippers) that I quit and if they see me dipping again to give me a solid ass kicking and tell my wife.

I used the fake stuff for the first 45 or so days. I ran out and one of my primary reasons for quitting is to save money.

Well I will be damned if I didn't have cravings worse after getting rid of my Hooch than I did with nic. The nic was the toughest from day 1-20 but after that all of my cravings were just to have something in my lip. Always reaching for the can kind of thing.

I am not buying any more of that stuff, at least for a while.

fireballs (the little red hard candies, about 1.83 for a 10 oz bag) are cheaper and IMO way more effective.

I am actually doing quite well now without anything.

But I do now have a sunflower seed addiction. I thought David seeds were like the only good seeds out there.

I had NO idea that David sees sucked so bad.

If you have never had Giants seeds then you are missing out. They are like twice the size of David seeds and the "Salt and Pepper" flavor is amazing. Honestly taste like some of the steak seasonings I use.

They also have sample packs you can order if you can't find them in your area and I think they are free shipping, or really low shipping at least.

But as for the craves I intentionally don't use anything any longer. I am fighting them without finding a crutch. I only use seeds when I want a snack.

[J2b]

Since softball season started I felt the need to do something related to dipping so I bought 3 cans of Smokey Mountain, one Arctic Mint and two Wintergreen.  The stuff is ok and did the job, but I noticed doing it more and more just like back when I was dipping and hiding it.  I was hiding just like I did with the real stuff, and the kicker came when I felt that white, loose stuff in my lower cheek one morning.  My cheek stared to feel rough again like back when I dipped too.  This happened just after using fake a couple times a day over about 3-4 days.  So I said screw it and threw the rest out, now on to nothing.

After all those stupid years of chucking tobacco in my mouth in spite of all the health worries I had, I'm now real in tune with anything that might cause a problem.  After just a couple days the cheek has gone back smooth again and feels normal. 

Don't know if anyone else has experienced this or not, just wanted to share. 

I have friends at the ball field who always have seeds so I guess I get to "bum" those from now on, should the need arise to do anything while on the field.  I also told a couple of my closest friends (non-dippers) that I quit and if they see me dipping again to give me a solid ass kicking and tell my wife.

I used the fake stuff for the first 45 or so days. I ran out and one of my primary reasons for quitting is to save money.

Well I will be damned if I didn't have cravings worse after getting rid of my Hooch than I did with nic. The nic was the toughest from day 1-20 but after that all of my cravings were just to have something in my lip. Always reaching for the can kind of thing.

I am not buying any more of that stuff, at least for a while.

fireballs (the little red hard candies, about 1.83 for a 10 oz bag) are cheaper and IMO way more effective.

[magnum9]

Since softball season started I felt the need to do something related to dipping so I bought 3 cans of Smokey Mountain, one Arctic Mint and two Wintergreen. The stuff is ok and did the job, but I noticed doing it more and more just like back when I was dipping and hiding it. I was hiding just like I did with the real stuff, and the kicker came when I felt that white, loose stuff in my lower cheek one morning. My cheek stared to feel rough again like back when I dipped too. This happened just after using fake a couple times a day over about 3-4 days. So I said screw it and threw the rest out, now on to nothing.

After all those stupid years of chucking tobacco in my mouth in spite of all the health worries I had, I'm now real in tune with anything that might cause a problem. After just a couple days the cheek has gone back smooth again and feels normal.

Don't know if anyone else has experienced this or not, just wanted to share.

I have friends at the ball field who always have seeds so I guess I get to "bum" those from now on, should the need arise to do anything while on the field. I also told a couple of my closest friends (non-dippers) that I quit and if they see me dipping again to give me a solid ass kicking and tell my wife.

I used the fake stuff for the first 45 or so days. I ran out and one of my primary reasons for quitting is to save money.

Well I will be damned if I didn't have cravings worse after getting rid of my Hooch than I did with nic. The nic was the toughest from day 1-20 but after that all of my cravings were just to have something in my lip. Always reaching for the can kind of thing.

I am not buying any more of that stuff, at least for a while.

[tarpon17]

Since softball season started I felt the need to do something related to dipping so I bought 3 cans of Smokey Mountain, one Arctic Mint and two Wintergreen. The stuff is ok and did the job, but I noticed doing it more and more just like back when I was dipping and hiding it. I was hiding just like I did with the real stuff, and the kicker came when I felt that white, loose stuff in my lower cheek one morning. My cheek stared to feel rough again like back when I dipped too. This happened just after using fake a couple times a day over about 3-4 days. So I said screw it and threw the rest out, now on to nothing.

After all those stupid years of chucking tobacco in my mouth in spite of all the health worries I had, I'm now real in tune with anything that might cause a problem. After just a couple days the cheek has gone back smooth again and feels normal.

Don't know if anyone else has experienced this or not, just wanted to share.

I have friends at the ball field who always have seeds so I guess I get to "bum" those from now on, should the need arise to do anything while on the field. I also told a couple of my closest friends (non-dippers) that I quit and if they see me dipping again to give me a solid ass kicking and tell my wife.

well done. I did the same with hunting/fishing. Thought I needed that SM to keep me going. After a few times, i just forgot to pack the SM and I made it just fine. SM now just sits in the truck or backpack gathering dust.

[Greg5280]

Many times around the site you hear "What makes this time different?"

For me it was a heavy distinction. It was the personal realization of addiction versus admitting you're an addict. Seems like a no brainer but there is a thick black line between them.

When I was using, I would look at shows like Intervention or see others with a destructive addiction to alcohol or drugs and look at their behaviors with pity. Then I would put in another fatty while hiding it from everyone in my life because I "had" to. I always knew I was addicted, but I never admitted to myself that I was an addict. For me the justification and difference came from the substance being legal, that's it.

But realizing there is no difference between me, an alcoholic, herion addict, crack addict, meth addict, whatever, was the hardest part of all this.

And it's what has made this time different.

Excellent post !! Well said.

It was the hardest thing for me to admit also, but doing so is what helped me get my mind right.

STAY QUIT
Greg

[ODAAT]

Since softball season started I felt the need to do something related to dipping so I bought 3 cans of Smokey Mountain, one Arctic Mint and two Wintergreen. The stuff is ok and did the job, but I noticed doing it more and more just like back when I was dipping and hiding it. I was hiding just like I did with the real stuff, and the kicker came when I felt that white, loose stuff in my lower cheek one morning. My cheek stared to feel rough again like back when I dipped too. This happened just after using fake a couple times a day over about 3-4 days. So I said screw it and threw the rest out, now on to nothing.

After all those stupid years of chucking tobacco in my mouth in spite of all the health worries I had, I'm now real in tune with anything that might cause a problem. After just a couple days the cheek has gone back smooth again and feels normal.

Don't know if anyone else has experienced this or not, just wanted to share.

I have friends at the ball field who always have seeds so I guess I get to "bum" those from now on, should the need arise to do anything while on the field. I also told a couple of my closest friends (non-dippers) that I quit and if they see me dipping again to give me a solid ass kicking and tell my wife.

[ODAAT]

Many times around the site you hear "What makes this time different?"

For me it was a heavy distinction. It was the personal realization of addiction versus admitting you're an addict. Seems like a no brainer but there is a thick black line between them.

When I was using, I would look at shows like Intervention or see others with a destructive addiction to alcohol or drugs and look at their behaviors with pity. Then I would put in another fatty while hiding it from everyone in my life because I "had" to. I always knew I was addicted, but I never admitted to myself that I was an addict. For me the justification and difference came from the substance being legal, that's it.

But realizing there is no difference between me, an alcoholic, herion addict, crack addict, meth addict, whatever, was the hardest part of all this.

And it's what has made this time different.

[tarpon17]

First softball game of the season tonight, first season without dip since I was 14-15 years old. Got a can of Smokey Mountain on Alert 5 in the softball bag....

Nice ODAAT-don't whiff!

[Scowick65]

First softball game of the season tonight, first season without dip since I was 14-15 years old. Got a can of Smokey Mountain on Alert 5 in the softball bag....

This is awesome. A big bat of quit + a small can of fake stuff = freedom.

[ODAAT]

First softball game of the season tonight, first season without dip since I was 14-15 years old. Got a can of Smokey Mountain on Alert 5 in the softball bag....

[tarpon17]

Just wanted to lay out some thoughts from the weekend, and how the quit has gone the last four days. Thursday was not good. Ate like shit at lunch time (tons of bar junk food), had one beer, and was so freaking tired and had a headache that I went home and slept through the afternoon games of the NCAA tournament. A couple craves that day didn't help.

But Friday was completely different. Felt great all day long. Had a great night, rolled on into Saturday. Repeat Saturday, and again on Sunday. No craves, no symptoms, just a great weekend where I felt more normal than I have in a good 4-5 years.

Today hasn't been so bad either. I know some tough days lay ahead for me. But this weekend has given me a glimpse into what life can be after quitting. When I have bad times, I'm going to mentally come back to this weekend. It's been added to the plan.

Dipping was causing me tons of health problems, and I was feeling good about 5-10% of the time. The rest of the time I felt bad in some form or fashion. Now, I'm feeling good at least 60% of the time. From what I hear it will only get better, maybe a little rocky at points, but mostly better.

This weekend gave me a thick coat of armor for my quit.

Good stuff! Good thing about quit armor, you can wear it outside in the rain, it doesn't rust!

[Scowick65]

Good stuff ODAAT. I felt better about the same time as you during my quit. It hit again in the 70s/80. I have been ok since then. Each time it hits you are better equipped. So, just tell her to 'Finger'

[ODAAT]

Just wanted to lay out some thoughts from the weekend, and how the quit has gone the last four days. Thursday was not good. Ate like shit at lunch time (tons of bar junk food), had one beer, and was so freaking tired and had a headache that I went home and slept through the afternoon games of the NCAA tournament. A couple craves that day didn't help.

But Friday was completely different. Felt great all day long. Had a great night, rolled on into Saturday. Repeat Saturday, and again on Sunday. No craves, no symptoms, just a great weekend where I felt more normal than I have in a good 4-5 years.

Today hasn't been so bad either. I know some tough days lay ahead for me. But this weekend has given me a glimpse into what life can be after quitting. When I have bad times, I'm going to mentally come back to this weekend. It's been added to the plan.

Dipping was causing me tons of health problems, and I was feeling good about 5-10% of the time. The rest of the time I felt bad in some form or fashion. Now, I'm feeling good at least 60% of the time. From what I hear it will only get better, maybe a little rocky at points, but mostly better.

This weekend gave me a thick coat of armor for my quit.

[Skoal Monster]

Hey odaat think of it this way 24 years of poisoning yourself vs
40 days quit. Its going to take awhile to get right.
Patience . Just cuz u stopped eating pesticide for a couple of weeks doesnt
Mean you healed all the damage. It does get better . Your feeling shitty because you
Started dipping in the first place, NOT because you stopped. After a time
You'll feel good without that crap and you'll wonder why you didn't stop
sooner. Hang tough u, u can do this

[sts]

keep strong brother. the funks do get further spread out, but they don't go away. i'm nearing day 80 and have been through a couple 2-3 day rough patches. they seem to have been spaced about 20 days apart.


it's not easy, but it can be done. stick with it and remember your reasons why you started down this path.