Day 3 of My First Attempt to Quit

[cbird65]

sac up nancy boy - do you think you're the only who has ever felt this pain and anguish while going through their quit

clue in here YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST AND YOU WONT BE THE LAST

it's called the suck the funk and any other name you can put on it - no one on KTC has a magic ball to say it will take you "X" number of days to get past this phase.

You're just like me - reprogramming our minds and bodies after years (35 in my case) of nicotine abuse.

Wake up - post roll with our exact number of days quit
Fulfill your promise
Repeat tomorrow

Peace Out and QLF

[Scowick65]

If it takes 10 years, I won't do that.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is. Thats' what I am trying to figure out so I can make an informed decision. I have read through the site and can't really find the answer....or the answers I do find conflict with one another.

Fail.

What are you willing to do to quit?

You think this is impossible, because you are looking too far ahead. Worry about the six inches in front of your face.

Can you quit for the next 5 minutes? Then the next 5?

When you look back, it'll be 10 years.

The answer is all over the place.

We quit now. Right fucking now.

There is no end to this game.

I stopped dipping for 2 1/2 years, then I gave into a craving and caved. I didn't realize I was an addict and thought I could have just one.

There's no magic number. Every day the cravings get weaker, fewer and far between, but they will always be out there to tickle your taint from time to time.

Posting roll DAILY is not just a promise, it's a reminder to yourself that you are an addict and succeptable to caving if you let your guard down.

jjprice - 108 - and I am an addict.

I am going to write a lot about this when I get home and pick some words of wisdom for you to read. WOW is loaded with answers.

Short Answer = index.php?showtopic=4512
Friend, you are not a unique and special butterfly, you are a drug addict. I know, so am I. There is nothing that can be done henceforth to change our state. We either are users or quitters.

Go look in the mirror and say it to yourself, I am a drug addict. When I use my drug and then quit it makes me a selfish fucking ass. I turn into a prick. It shall pass. My addiction to nicotine shall never pass. Never. Ever.

It gets better, I know, day 503 rocks dude. Focus on one day at a time. More to follow...... :)

[Mthomas3824]

My relationships(friends and GF) are suffering because I am craving and thus nasty. Business is suffering because of the nasty anti-social attitude.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is.

carumba10 - I have a couple thoughts. First, I love your posts. I think you really put out what you think and feel. At the beginning, I thought you were always planing a time that you would cave. Not anymore, I don't know your line of work but I am guessing it has to do with forecasting and controlling or determining the outcome.

It seems like your mind must look at the future and facts of the past and determine what is going to happen before you get there. So thinking only for today is so opposite of your nature.

I bet if you go on vacation, the cost of the vacation, the activities and agenda must be planned and organized so you can already know what the reward of the vacation is going to be. This is all just a guess on my part but I have come to love your posts. I don't think you are planning a cave, I think you need to forecast and do a risk analysis of the potential outcomes. If they don't go the way you planed then you will feel like you lost control.

So the contradiction that I think are misunderstandings on the site. Don't think about tomorrow, only think about today. Then the weekend comes and the vets tell everyone to have a plan so that they don't cave. The plan is simple for me. Post roll, and just say no. (I included alcohol)

You are going into a territory that is very foreign to you. Trust that what your heart tells you is right vs. the logical feeling of being an addict and feeling like shit all the time.

When I quit: I weight 185 lbs. Last weekend, I was 210!!!! How hard that was for me. I couldn't poop right and I felt everything that I controlled while addicted was falling apart. However, I feel in love with the quit. I figured, when I get control of this addiction, then I can gain self confidence to control other things. I lost 4 lbs and weight 206 today.

The pain is temporary, triggers are there, but the desire to stay quit gets stronger so the triggers can't compete with the strength.

I think this quit is going to teach you a lot more than abstaining from nicotine. I think you are going to see that once you are on course, you don't have to analyze the map every second. You might look up and see a beautiful world that you never paid attention to because you never put it in the itinerary.

I loved going on drives by myself to get a dip. If my son wanted to come, he threw a wrench in that plan. Now I ask my son to go with me. Why, I love that kid. He is so fun to have around and our talks hands down beat any alone time sucking on a carcinogen and spitting in a bottle. When I quit, I never predicted that. It just happened. Love the quit and worry about today. Take a deep breath and don't predict your end result focused only on getting to your destination. Just enjoy the experiences and breath. Just smile and live a quit free life.

I'm not a hippy, I am a control freak but this experience has been exciting because each day is unpredictable. I embraced the suck of it and quite enjoy the new experiences. No matter what tomorrow brings, it is better quit. That I truly believe.

If it is a bad day, it could have been worse if I dipped.
If it is a good day, it is so much better because I am Quit.

That's all.

[jjprice]

If it takes 10 years, I won't do that.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is. Thats' what I am trying to figure out so I can make an informed decision. I have read through the site and can't really find the answer....or the answers I do find conflict with one another.

Fail.

What are you willing to do to quit?

You think this is impossible, because you are looking too far ahead. Worry about the six inches in front of your face.

Can you quit for the next 5 minutes? Then the next 5?

When you look back, it'll be 10 years.

The answer is all over the place.

We quit now. Right fucking now.

There is no end to this game.

I stopped dipping for 2 1/2 years, then I gave into a craving and caved. I didn't realize I was an addict and thought I could have just one.

There's no magic number. Every day the cravings get weaker, fewer and far between, but they will always be out there to tickle your taint from time to time.

Posting roll DAILY is not just a promise, it's a reminder to yourself that you are an addict and succeptable to caving if you let your guard down.

jjprice - 108 - and I am an addict.

[Nolaq]

If it takes 10 years, I won't do that.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is. Thats' what I am trying to figure out so I can make an informed decision. I have read through the site and can't really find the answer....or the answers I do find conflict with one another.

Fail.

What are you willing to do to quit?

You think this is impossible, because you are looking too far ahead. Worry about the six inches in front of your face.

Can you quit for the next 5 minutes? Then the next 5?

When you look back, it'll be 10 years.

The answer is all over the place.

We quit now. Right fucking now.

[RAZD611]

If it takes 10 years, I won't do that.

Then your mind is not right and you are not ready for this. your defenses still have huge gaping holes and need restructured.

Thats' what I am trying to figure out so I can make an informed decision.

On what, rather you should be quitting or not. Then your mind is not right and you are not ready for this. your defenses still have huge gaping holes and need restructured.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is. I have read through the site and can't really find the answer....or the answers I do find conflict with one another.

The end game is with the lights go out. The last breath is taken. That is when you are no longer an addict. At Day 955- I can tell you that you will still have an occasional crave. THIS IS A LIFELONG FIGHT, IT IS NEVER OVER!!!!!!

Your epiphany will come sooner or later. STOP LEAVING YOURSELF AN OUT...IT WILL BE YOUR DOWNFALL.

[cmark]

Trying to quit forever is impossible, quit for today.

All of us will quit forever. Some of us have decided to kick the quit off while we're still alive.

rgross, please read from some of the site, specifically the Why iy Works section:

One of the things that we do on the QSX Boards is post roll. It is a promise to ourselves and to our quit bretheren that we will not chew that day. No one is ever talking about quitting forever. We realize that a concept like "forever" is very difficult for an addicted chewer to cope with


All we got is TODAY baby .... POST ROLL and promise your brothers  sisters your comittment to stay QUIT TODAY ... QLF ... Then do it all again tomorrow ....
Then again ... do it your way, and good luck to ya .... 'na na'

[klark]

Trying to quit forever is impossible, quit for today.

All of us will quit forever. Some of us have decided to kick the quit off while we're still alive.

rgross, please read from some of the site, specifically the Why iy Works section:

One of the things that we do on the QSX Boards is post roll. It is a promise to ourselves and to our quit bretheren that we will not chew that day. No one is ever talking about quitting forever. We realize that a concept like "forever" is very difficult for an addicted chewer to cope with

[magnum9]

Day 34...and still sucks with craves.

Curiousity is driving my quit now. I want to find out for myself the actual truth of when the craves stop.

You fed your brain nicotine for over 6,000 days, for the last 34 you have told it no. There is no magic cure and no number you will hit when craves go away. You need to re focus, worry about TODAY. You need to get through today, thats all.

Trying to quit forever is impossible, quit for today.

The cravings will never completely stop. You must acknowledge that.

I can promise you that they will become MUCH easier to deal with. Right now it probably feels as if the cravings are ruling your thoughts. At some point you may even go days without ever getting a craving.

But you shouldn't worry about the future. Just today. Deal with the cravings for today.

[rgross298]

Trying to quit forever is impossible, quit for today.

All of us will quit forever. Some of us have decided to kick the quit off while we're still alive.

[klark]

Day 34...and still sucks with craves.

Curiousity is driving my quit now. I want to find out for myself the actual truth of when the craves stop.

You fed your brain nicotine for over 6,000 days, for the last 34 you have told it no. There is no magic cure and no number you will hit when craves go away. You need to re focus, worry about TODAY. You need to get through today, thats all.

Trying to quit forever is impossible, quit for today.

[rgross298]

Day 34...and still sucks with craves.

Curiousity is driving my quit now. I want to find out for myself the actual truth of when the craves stop.

In an absolute sense, craves and the "nic bitch" are all inside your head. They are not tangible items.

Based on your recent posts, it sounds like you are having a rough time grappling with the concept that you are a nicotine-free mofo, and you will be permanently. Or will you be?

Have you burned your bridges with chew, or are you subconsciously giving yourself an "out" to cave if the craves don't go away by a certain deadline?

I suggest you take a look in the mirror and tell yourself that, no matter what, no matter how bad or how long the craves last, you are done and quit with nicotine and it will never enter your body again. Take control of your mental struggle, bro. If you can do that, and say it with conviction, the craves will begin to fizzle and the "nic bitch" will stop yelling in your ear every moment of every day.

And the sun will come out, and yank your ass out of this 20's/30's funk you're in. It feels freaking awesome on this side, the freedom is unbelievable. I cannot imagine going back to being a slave. I never will.

Rock on.

[carumba10]

Day 34...and still sucks with craves.

Curiousity is driving my quit now. I want to find out for myself the actual truth of when the craves stop.

[carumba10]

My communication skills are lacking sometimes. I guess I am a control freak. When I give blood, I need to watch it happen, even though they advise to look away. I need to know what's going on. I prefer to make choices or decisions based on logic. That's why I ask what's ahead of me.

If the consensus is on average it take 2 weeks to stop the craving then I can do that.

If it takes 30 days, I can do that.

If it takes 60 days, I can do that.

If it takes 10 years, I won't do that.

My diet is horrible. My cholesterol is rising. My blood sugar is rising. My weight is increasing so my knees/back/hips take extra pounding from running. My relationships(friends and GF) are suffering because I am craving and thus nasty. Business is suffering because of the nasty anti-social attitude. So it's easier to stay in the man cave and avoid all that.

I can deal with all that if I know what and when the end game is. Thats' what I am trying to figure out so I can make an informed decision. I have read through the site and can't really find the answer....or the answers I do find conflict with one another.

[Mthomas3824]

That's just funny right there.

Here is what madoff didn't do that qutting does.

Bernie "Mark, how much money have you saved to date by quitting tobacco"

Mark: "$182.10"

Bernie: "Mark how are your relationships."

Mark: "Much better because I no longer lie."

Bernie: "How much money did you invest to quit tobacco"

Mark: "Nothing, I just gave my word"

Bernie: "Did you think it would be easy?"

Mark: "No but I didn't think it would take so long to get easier."

Bernie: "How do you feel about your investment?"

Mark: "It isn't fun, it sucks but I am optimistic"

Bernie: "Where is the Ponzi Scheme?"

Mark: "Tobacco is my Bernie Madoff. Not quitting. I invested in tobacco for 20 years always expecting a good ROI. I got a buzz once in a while. What a joke! The amount of money I invested in tobacco could buy me a car. I turned money into gross spit for years"


carumba10 - The real Ponzi is Tobacco and its promoters. You are just feeling the pain of a bad investment. All the advise you get here....hurts but it is real and sound advise.