Almost there... Quit Date Dec 31st 2013

[Diesel2112]

Long time lurker...do you remember reading anyone else was using nic gum to ween off??? Or do think you're the only one who thought of that? I question your lukrking skills.

You gotta realize you're not just a dip addict, you're a NICOTINE addict. Until you cut the ties completely, you haven't quit shit .

Throw out the gum and move your quit date to December 4th.

The best time to quit is today. The worst time to quit is tomorrow.

[NeonPanther]

Thanks for your feed back and suggestions.

I will take a video of me putting every piece of gum I have in the toilet, and flushing it and post it as proof, IF you can give me a solution to the only problem with quitting that I will not tolerate.

How do you manage the irrational anger? That just builds. And every stupid little thing piles onto. And sitting there, thinking about how stupid and irrational that anger is just makes you more and more angry...

I am not an angry person. At all. I guarantee if you asked 90% of people that know me they would tell you they have never seen me angry.

I never rose my voice in anger to my wife or children before trying to quit. I never stormed out of the house, slamming the back door so hard the whole house shakes. And punching a tree and breaking my hand. And all from irrational nicotine fueled rage. It happened once. I will never let it happen again.

The amount of dip I was using.... a can and a half, 2 cans A DAY. I'd put 4 times more dip in my mouth than some of my friends. top and bottom. retarded.

I'm a nurse, I deal with substance abuse patients often, and I volunteered at a drug rehab for a long time as well. Some people have the fortitude to quit cold turkey. Not everyone does. Even non addicts have to be tapered off some substances. That's the way the human body works.

I have had 4mg of nicotine today. You can tell me I'm still a slave to the poison. I know I'm not. I know what being enslaved to nicotine felt like. It's not that way anymore. I am in control, and gain more control every day.

And you know what... I could toss it out now and be done with it. But I can't guarantee I can cope with that anger. I won't let the nicotine control me ever again, whether it be from the drive to dip, or the rage from not dipping. Every day is still a fight. But this way, every day, I stomp out a little bit of nicotineÂ’s hold, and I get stronger. I only carry enough with me to follow my schedule. I don't chew a piece based on cravings. Fuck the cravings. I can FINALLY fight that. I chew a piece on a set schedule to taper off the retarded amount of nicotine I was using, and finally be free of this.

I understand this is a nicotine free site. If you can help me not get retard-o-rage then I will dump the gum today. I will not be a grouchy asshole and ruin my familyÂ’s entire holiday season.

If not I'll be back on December 25th. My last scheduled dose of gum is on Christmas Eve. I didn't plan that, I made the schedule based off of the amount I was dipping, and the uncontrolled amount of gum I was chewing "Trying" to quit. It's based off of the time it would take to taper off in a controlled manner. That last week is "Emergency gum only, 2mg per day MAX" verbatim from my quit calendar.

Some people have the fortitude to quit cold turkey. Some do not.
You canÂ’t tell me thereÂ’s no proof stop-smoking aids help people quit. I have seen it help in my own patients. Furthermore, IÂ’m the proof. IÂ’m done with dip. And every day I am more certain of it.

Think of it this way; some people are afraid of heights. Some are so afraid they could never repel off a cliff, no matter what the motivation. Others have the will to overcome that fear, to get harnessed up and get over the edge and straight to the bottom. IÂ’m saying thereÂ’s a staircase. People who canÂ’t make the leap can still get to the same destination. I think you are hurting just as many people as you are helping by telling them cold turkey is the only way.

[Mthomas3824]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, 1st time posting.

I have one quick questions then I'll get to my intro.
I am done dipping, been over 60 days since I have had tobacco in my mouth. I am tapering off nicotine gum and set to quit all nicotine Dec 31. I am worried about the oral fixation aspect. I think that's part of why the gum has worked so well. I was wondering if anyone knows of a regular, non nicotine gum that is as... substancial as nicotine gum. Ive tried everything on the counter from Double mint to Wrigles, they are all just thin and slippery. I don't even know how to explain it. Anyway I expect I'll be chewing gum for a while so I'm looking for something similar to nicotine gum, with out the nicotine. Thanks!

Into:

I joined the Army in 2009. Never used tobacco in my life... Peer preassure, bordom, homesickness, bordom... who knows, I started dipping. Been trying to quit since I got home in 2011. Cope Wintergreen longcut was the only thing I could handle the flavor of.

Addiction is a crazy thing 'bang head' . Dip. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the bits of tobbaco all over my mouth and stuck in my teeth. Doesn't even make me feel good. No energy, tired, just crappy and lazy. More dip will fix that right? Nope, just makes me dizzy and nauseous. I finally got to the point where I hated dip, everything about it.

But I'd buy another can. Better make it 2, you get a discount that way.
That craving... The craving hits and makes you forget all that. Not forget, agrue with it. "It makes you feel good", the craving tells me. "You need it.... You love it :wub: ."

Hope this sounds familiar... Maybe I'm as crazy as I think I am.  'winker'

I have tried cold turkey countless times in the last 2 years. Made it 22 days once...

I have not had a dip over 2 months, thanks to nicotine gum, and finally wanting to quit more than I want a dip. They sayI am tapering off the gum now and doing well. I set out a daily schedule, with nicotine doseage totals and what time to have a peice. I'm sticking to it. Unless I don't feel the need for a peice. I'll skip it and try to make it til the next peice is due. This is happening more frequently and I like it. :D

The real difference this time is that I know I'm done with tobacco. I quit going into the gas stations where I buy dip for about a month. All the clerks know you, they just grab a can for you with out a word. When I finally did go back in I told all my clerks that I quit. And if I ever ask for a can, not to sell it to me :D They have all been supportive so that's pretty cool. I quit drinking, cause what's better than a dip once you have a nice buzz going? And after 2 weeks with out a dip, a little buzz is all it takes to get me walking to the gas station for another can. Or 2, costs less that way. I have done lots of other little things, things I avoid, or have totally cut out of my life as well. A supportive wife that can not take the irrational grumpiness  (to put it mildly) personally. And working out. And eating better. Honestly my whole lifestyle has changed and dip just doesn't fit anywhere in the way I want to live anymore.

Anyway. I know I'm done dipping. LoL yea right. There's alot more to it than that and all you sucessful quitters know that. But I'm following my plan, and I've never felt as good about successfully quitting as I have for the last several weeks.

Oh man, the pandora box you're opening up...

Spit out the gum. Is December 31st some magical date to which you'll be cured? Start now, post up and quit. You're in the army, so mental toughness shouldn't be an issue. That's what it's going to take buddy.

As far as gum, any worked, atomic fireballs helped a lot of guys here. Drink lots of water, get some cranberry juice and get to it

Dont punish yourself any longer than you have to. Flush the gum. Flush the nic and get to it....TODAY. Tomorrow never comes.

Nicotine gum sucks ass. I once tried to quit thinking I would chew nic gum. I hated it and would chew more pieces at a time. Finally, I spent so much extra money, "Quitting", I realized the pharmaceutical company duped me. I was still getting my fix and paying soooo much more for it.

I know you feel like you are successful this time but you are set up to fail on December 31st. Why? You are still ingesting nicotine. It not the oral fixation so much as it is the addiction to nicotine. Its working because you are using.

You want to have success this is the formula. Don't set a date. Just take action now. Get everything nicotine and flush it! You failed before because addicts can let themselves down. You can cave on a promise to yourself so you do. We all have.

You must want to quit. You must want to be a man of your word and you must have accountability to keep your head on straight when a craving comes.

December 31st? Why not January 2. New Years will be a big temptation and you wouldn't want to fail. Oh wait what about after St. Patricks day. Drinking day, I caved once when I was drinking so maybe you should set the day for June. Wait July 4th is coming and nothing like a buzz watching fireworks. Hell summer will almost be over after that so I'll do quit after Labor day.

You get my point. You will crave and have triggers today, tomorrow or whenever. It is very symbolic to destroy what you expected to consume. It is a war and the best attack is a surprise one.

Get rid of the gum now. Post roll "Neon Panther Day 1" Everyone on that list promised not to ingest tobacco today. If they can do it cold turkey you can too.

Don't let nicotine enslave you for one more moment. Keep your money and tell nicotine its finally over! I love posting roll, today is my 631st day giving US tobacco, and nicotine one of these.... 'Finger'

[SirDerek]

Hope you are getting at what people are saying. We have seen it over and over where an addict says they are quitting the drug in 'such' time and that time never arrives.

the best way is to end it today. stop feeding yourself that drug, in whatever form you use, and get clean now.

then use this site for its support, for its knowledge, for its members, for its brothers and sisters.

stop wasting time, money and possibly your health (yes your health), and QUIT NOW.

[RAZD611]

Blah, blah I am going to quit so in so. (didnt happen)

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What do you mean I have cancer Doc????

Damn I should of stopped waiting for tomorrow to quit. Now it's too late!!!

[Roamcountry]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, 1st time posting.

I have one quick questions then I'll get to my intro.
I am done dipping, been over 60 days since I have had tobacco in my mouth. I am tapering off nicotine gum and set to quit all nicotine Dec 31. I am worried about the oral fixation aspect. I think that's part of why the gum has worked so well. I was wondering if anyone knows of a regular, non nicotine gum that is as... substancial as nicotine gum. Ive tried everything on the counter from Double mint to Wrigles, they are all just thin and slippery. I don't even know how to explain it. Anyway I expect I'll be chewing gum for a while so I'm looking for something similar to nicotine gum, with out the nicotine. Thanks!

Into:

I joined the Army in 2009. Never used tobacco in my life... Peer preassure, bordom, homesickness, bordom... who knows, I started dipping. Been trying to quit since I got home in 2011. Cope Wintergreen longcut was the only thing I could handle the flavor of.

Addiction is a crazy thing 'bang head' . Dip. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the bits of tobbaco all over my mouth and stuck in my teeth. Doesn't even make me feel good. No energy, tired, just crappy and lazy. More dip will fix that right? Nope, just makes me dizzy and nauseous. I finally got to the point where I hated dip, everything about it.

But I'd buy another can. Better make it 2, you get a discount that way.
That craving... The craving hits and makes you forget all that. Not forget, agrue with it. "It makes you feel good", the craving tells me. "You need it.... You love it :wub: ."

Hope this sounds familiar... Maybe I'm as crazy as I think I am.  'winker'

I have tried cold turkey countless times in the last 2 years. Made it 22 days once...

I have not had a dip over 2 months, thanks to nicotine gum, and finally wanting to quit more than I want a dip. They sayI am tapering off the gum now and doing well. I set out a daily schedule, with nicotine doseage totals and what time to have a peice. I'm sticking to it. Unless I don't feel the need for a peice. I'll skip it and try to make it til the next peice is due. This is happening more frequently and I like it. :D

The real difference this time is that I know I'm done with tobacco. I quit going into the gas stations where I buy dip for about a month. All the clerks know you, they just grab a can for you with out a word. When I finally did go back in I told all my clerks that I quit. And if I ever ask for a can, not to sell it to me :D They have all been supportive so that's pretty cool. I quit drinking, cause what's better than a dip once you have a nice buzz going? And after 2 weeks with out a dip, a little buzz is all it takes to get me walking to the gas station for another can. Or 2, costs less that way. I have done lots of other little things, things I avoid, or have totally cut out of my life as well. A supportive wife that can not take the irrational grumpiness  (to put it mildly) personally. And working out. And eating better. Honestly my whole lifestyle has changed and dip just doesn't fit anywhere in the way I want to live anymore.

Anyway. I know I'm done dipping. LoL yea right. There's alot more to it than that and all you sucessful quitters know that. But I'm following my plan, and I've never felt as good about successfully quitting as I have for the last several weeks.

Oh man, the pandora box you're opening up...

Spit out the gum. Is December 31st some magical date to which you'll be cured? Start now, post up and quit. You're in the army, so mental toughness shouldn't be an issue. That's what it's going to take buddy.

As far as gum, any worked, atomic fireballs helped a lot of guys here. Drink lots of water, get some cranberry juice and get to it

Dont punish yourself any longer than you have to. Flush the gum. Flush the nic and get to it....TODAY. Tomorrow never comes.

[Bruce]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, 1st time posting.

I have one quick questions then I'll get to my intro.
I am done dipping, been over 60 days since I have had tobacco in my mouth. I am tapering off nicotine gum and set to quit all nicotine Dec 31. I am worried about the oral fixation aspect. I think that's part of why the gum has worked so well. I was wondering if anyone knows of a regular, non nicotine gum that is as... substancial as nicotine gum. Ive tried everything on the counter from Double mint to Wrigles, they are all just thin and slippery. I don't even know how to explain it. Anyway I expect I'll be chewing gum for a while so I'm looking for something similar to nicotine gum, with out the nicotine. Thanks!

Into:

I joined the Army in 2009. Never used tobacco in my life... Peer preassure, bordom, homesickness, bordom... who knows, I started dipping. Been trying to quit since I got home in 2011. Cope Wintergreen longcut was the only thing I could handle the flavor of.

Addiction is a crazy thing 'bang head' . Dip. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the bits of tobbaco all over my mouth and stuck in my teeth. Doesn't even make me feel good. No energy, tired, just crappy and lazy. More dip will fix that right? Nope, just makes me dizzy and nauseous. I finally got to the point where I hated dip, everything about it.

But I'd buy another can. Better make it 2, you get a discount that way.
That craving... The craving hits and makes you forget all that. Not forget, agrue with it. "It makes you feel good", the craving tells me. "You need it.... You love it :wub: ."

Hope this sounds familiar... Maybe I'm as crazy as I think I am. 'winker'

I have tried cold turkey countless times in the last 2 years. Made it 22 days once...

I have not had a dip over 2 months, thanks to nicotine gum, and finally wanting to quit more than I want a dip. They sayI am tapering off the gum now and doing well. I set out a daily schedule, with nicotine doseage totals and what time to have a peice. I'm sticking to it. Unless I don't feel the need for a peice. I'll skip it and try to make it til the next peice is due. This is happening more frequently and I like it. :D

The real difference this time is that I know I'm done with tobacco. I quit going into the gas stations where I buy dip for about a month. All the clerks know you, they just grab a can for you with out a word. When I finally did go back in I told all my clerks that I quit. And if I ever ask for a can, not to sell it to me :D They have all been supportive so that's pretty cool. I quit drinking, cause what's better than a dip once you have a nice buzz going? And after 2 weeks with out a dip, a little buzz is all it takes to get me walking to the gas station for another can. Or 2, costs less that way. I have done lots of other little things, things I avoid, or have totally cut out of my life as well. A supportive wife that can not take the irrational grumpiness (to put it mildly) personally. And working out. And eating better. Honestly my whole lifestyle has changed and dip just doesn't fit anywhere in the way I want to live anymore.

Anyway. I know I'm done dipping. LoL yea right. There's alot more to it than that and all you sucessful quitters know that. But I'm following my plan, and I've never felt as good about successfully quitting as I have for the last several weeks.

Oh man, the pandora box you're opening up...

Spit out the gum. Is December 31st some magical date to which you'll be cured? Start now, post up and quit. You're in the army, so mental toughness shouldn't be an issue. That's what it's going to take buddy.

As far as gum, any worked, atomic fireballs helped a lot of guys here. Drink lots of water, get some cranberry juice and get to it

[mattyf118]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, 1st time posting.

I have one quick questions then I'll get to my intro.
I am done dipping, been over 60 days since I have had tobacco in my mouth. I am tapering off nicotine gum and set to quit all nicotine Dec 31. I am worried about the oral fixation aspect. I think that's part of why the gum has worked so well. I was wondering if anyone knows of a regular, non nicotine gum that is as... substancial as nicotine gum. Ive tried everything on the counter from Double mint to Wrigles, they are all just thin and slippery. I don't even know how to explain it. Anyway I expect I'll be chewing gum for a while so I'm looking for something similar to nicotine gum, with out the nicotine. Thanks!

Into:

I joined the Army in 2009. Never used tobacco in my life... Peer preassure, bordom, homesickness, bordom... who knows, I started dipping. Been trying to quit since I got home in 2011. Cope Wintergreen longcut was the only thing I could handle the flavor of.

Addiction is a crazy thing 'bang head' . Dip. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the bits of tobbaco all over my mouth and stuck in my teeth. Doesn't even make me feel good. No energy, tired, just crappy and lazy. More dip will fix that right? Nope, just makes me dizzy and nauseous. I finally got to the point where I hated dip, everything about it.

But I'd buy another can. Better make it 2, you get a discount that way.
That craving... The craving hits and makes you forget all that. Not forget, agrue with it. "It makes you feel good", the craving tells me. "You need it.... You love it :wub: ."

Hope this sounds familiar... Maybe I'm as crazy as I think I am. 'winker'

I have tried cold turkey countless times in the last 2 years. Made it 22 days once...

I have not had a dip over 2 months, thanks to nicotine gum, and finally wanting to quit more than I want a dip. They sayI am tapering off the gum now and doing well. I set out a daily schedule, with nicotine doseage totals and what time to have a peice. I'm sticking to it. Unless I don't feel the need for a peice. I'll skip it and try to make it til the next peice is due. This is happening more frequently and I like it. :D

The real difference this time is that I know I'm done with tobacco. I quit going into the gas stations where I buy dip for about a month. All the clerks know you, they just grab a can for you with out a word. When I finally did go back in I told all my clerks that I quit. And if I ever ask for a can, not to sell it to me :D They have all been supportive so that's pretty cool. I quit drinking, cause what's better than a dip once you have a nice buzz going? And after 2 weeks with out a dip, a little buzz is all it takes to get me walking to the gas station for another can. Or 2, costs less that way. I have done lots of other little things, things I avoid, or have totally cut out of my life as well. A supportive wife that can not take the irrational grumpiness (to put it mildly) personally. And working out. And eating better. Honestly my whole lifestyle has changed and dip just doesn't fit anywhere in the way I want to live anymore.

Anyway. I know I'm done dipping. LoL yea right. There's alot more to it than that and all you sucessful quitters know that. But I'm following my plan, and I've never felt as good about successfully quitting as I have for the last several weeks.

Welcome to the site. Few things though.

First, this is a non-nicotine site. By using the gum, you are prolonging the nicotine in your system. When you finally do stop using the gum, what do you think is going to happen? Best thing for you to do is to stop using the gum immediately, flush it (if you can) or throw it away. This site is full of quitters who have gone cold turkey successfully. When the 31st comes around, you realize that you will go cold turkey then right. Forget the tobacco aspect of it. The nicotine is what you are addicted to, and right now that addiction is tricking you into wasting more of your money on NRT. The fact is, NRT's aren't proven a successful quit tool. It may work for some, but in the end, you have still been supplying your body nicotine when it wants it, only not in the form of tobacco, but in the form of gum.

Secondly, you can't always say that you will quit tomorrow because tomorrow will never come right. If you say I will quit tomorrow, then it's tomorrow and you say I will quit tomorrow. Quit right now. Get rid of your stash, post roll in the March group and don't use nicotine for the rest of the day. Sounds simple right. That's all we ask here. One day at a time. If you are willing to do that, I will stand by you, and fight with you as much as you need it. But only if quit with the NRT.

If that doesn't sound like a good option to you, then I say maybe this site is not for you and good luck in your attempt. When you are ready to quit, quit, we will be here.

[NeonPanther]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, 1st time posting.

I have one quick questions then I'll get to my intro.
I am done dipping, been over 60 days since I have had tobacco in my mouth. I am tapering off nicotine gum and set to quit all nicotine Dec 31. I am worried about the oral fixation aspect. I think that's part of why the gum has worked so well. I was wondering if anyone knows of a regular, non nicotine gum that is as... substancial as nicotine gum. Ive tried everything on the counter from Double mint to Wrigles, they are all just thin and slippery. I don't even know how to explain it. Anyway I expect I'll be chewing gum for a while so I'm looking for something similar to nicotine gum, with out the nicotine. Thanks!

Into:

I joined the Army in 2009. Never used tobacco in my life... Peer preassure, bordom, homesickness, bordom... who knows, I started dipping. Been trying to quit since I got home in 2011. Cope Wintergreen longcut was the only thing I could handle the flavor of.

Addiction is a crazy thing 'bang head' . Dip. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the bits of tobbaco all over my mouth and stuck in my teeth. Doesn't even make me feel good. No energy, tired, just crappy and lazy. More dip will fix that right? Nope, just makes me dizzy and nauseous. I finally got to the point where I hated dip, everything about it.

But I'd buy another can. Better make it 2, you get a discount that way.
That craving... The craving hits and makes you forget all that. Not forget, agrue with it. "It makes you feel good", the craving tells me. "You need it.... You love it :wub: ."

Hope this sounds familiar... Maybe I'm as crazy as I think I am. 'winker'

I have tried cold turkey countless times in the last 2 years. Made it 22 days once...

I have not had a dip over 2 months, thanks to nicotine gum, and finally wanting to quit more than I want a dip. They sayI am tapering off the gum now and doing well. I set out a daily schedule, with nicotine doseage totals and what time to have a peice. I'm sticking to it. Unless I don't feel the need for a peice. I'll skip it and try to make it til the next peice is due. This is happening more frequently and I like it. :D

The real difference this time is that I know I'm done with tobacco. I quit going into the gas stations where I buy dip for about a month. All the clerks know you, they just grab a can for you with out a word. When I finally did go back in I told all my clerks that I quit. And if I ever ask for a can, not to sell it to me :D They have all been supportive so that's pretty cool. I quit drinking, cause what's better than a dip once you have a nice buzz going? And after 2 weeks with out a dip, a little buzz is all it takes to get me walking to the gas station for another can. Or 2, costs less that way. I have done lots of other little things, things I avoid, or have totally cut out of my life as well. A supportive wife that can not take the irrational grumpiness (to put it mildly) personally. And working out. And eating better. Honestly my whole lifestyle has changed and dip just doesn't fit anywhere in the way I want to live anymore.

Anyway. I know I'm done dipping. LoL yea right. There's alot more to it than that and all you sucessful quitters know that. But I'm following my plan, and I've never felt as good about successfully quitting as I have for the last several weeks.