Quitting for real

[Grizzly25]

Day 20 of my quit and I thought I would add some thoughts on the journey.
First, this quit seems so much different than my past weak assed attempts, and KTC is responsible for a lot of that. (more on that later) Unlike past times my mind is not trying to play stupid tricks on me. Like, "You should have a dip now and then quit again tomorrow" Or "you are gaining weight, why don't you dip to get your weight down than quit again" etc. In the past my mind used to come up with all sorts of nonsense to why I should buy a tin of Kodiak. This time....not once. It's as if my subconscience knows how committed I am and isn't trying to play games. I still have craves, but they don't come with my mind making up fake justifications for dipping again.
Second reading stories about other people quitting has been a huge motivator for me. It seems like all of us have the same basic background...started dipping in highschool (usually due to peer pressure or sports) Dipped for years...tried multiple times to unsuccessfully quit. Either got health scares, or got sick of hiding and being caught dipping by a family member. Came to this site because we couldn't figure out a way to quit. Then started kicking ass quitting.
All the reasons for starting, the problems quiting, and the symptoms experienced when quiting has made me realize this is not a process unique to me, and if you guys can quit, I can as well.
What I love most about this sight is the anger. I have never really unleashed my anger at my addiction until I came to KTC. Up until 20 days ago I mainly just felt sorry for myself (what can I do I'm addicted)...or worse yet nothing at all. I don't want to chew tobacco, and yet something else is making me. Imagine that happening in any other facet of your life. Being forced to do anything that is harmful to you and hurtful or threatening to your family! Would that piss you off? You're God damned right it would, and that is exactly what nicotine is... harmful to you combined with lying to your loved ones and threathening your family should the dip bring about health troubles or death. So get angry boys! and stay angry! its helped me focus like nothing else has.
I thought my hardest moments would be to see other people dipping in front of me....Totally wrong. For some reason that hasn't been a problem at all. What I have a hard time with is breaking my dip habits...mainly after meals, on drives, and first thing in the morning. Each of which is when I have learned to "embrace the suck!" I have taken a perverse liking to taking on my hardest and most trying moments and winning that battle...so even though I am chewing gum and early on chewing mint pouches, I am trying more and more to just deal with these cravings head on...Not using anything...embracing the suck and getting after it. FYI when I first read that phrase (embrace the suck) I thought it sounded stupid. Now I am living by that motto.
I have read some guys talk about feeling more healthy. That hasn't really happened to me. I never had mouth aches or sores while dipping and therefore quitting hasn't made my mouth feel better. Also its not like I am more energetic or active, if anything I am more tired. (what about you long time quitters? Do you feel healthier? and how?) To me it seems that is the one advantage smokers have when quitting over us...the longer they quit the healthier they feel. Anyway just a few thoughts on my journey...Would love to hear yours.

-Granger

Great reflection brother!

Keep the journal going this is the best place to quit, you get support and an avenue to vent rage or whatever is needed!

I say enjoy the milestone victories but DO NOT lose your resolve!
You will need it, but stay quit for today and remember dont get sucked into thinking hey I have quit for 20-30 days I no longer need this........

Stay close and keep your daily promise also enjoy the new found freedom one day at a time!

[Dougie]

Day 20 of my quit and I thought I would add some thoughts on the journey.
First, this quit seems so much different than my past weak assed attempts, and KTC is responsible for a lot of that. (more on that later) Unlike past times my mind is not trying to play stupid tricks on me. Like, "You should have a dip now and then quit again tomorrow" Or "you are gaining weight, why don't you dip to get your weight down than quit again" etc. In the past my mind used to come up with all sorts of nonsense to why I should buy a tin of Kodiak. This time....not once. It's as if my subconscience knows how committed I am and isn't trying to play games. I still have craves, but they don't come with my mind making up fake justifications for dipping again.
Second reading stories about other people quitting has been a huge motivator for me. It seems like all of us have the same basic background...started dipping in highschool (usually due to peer pressure or sports) Dipped for years...tried multiple times to unsuccessfully quit. Either got health scares, or got sick of hiding and being caught dipping by a family member. Came to this site because we couldn't figure out a way to quit. Then started kicking ass quitting.
All the reasons for starting, the problems quiting, and the symptoms experienced when quiting has made me realize this is not a process unique to me, and if you guys can quit, I can as well.
What I love most about this sight is the anger. I have never really unleashed my anger at my addiction until I came to KTC. Up until 20 days ago I mainly just felt sorry for myself (what can I do I'm addicted)...or worse yet nothing at all. I don't want to chew tobacco, and yet something else is making me. Imagine that happening in any other facet of your life. Being forced to do anything that is harmful to you and hurtful or threatening to your family! Would that piss you off? You're God damned right it would, and that is exactly what nicotine is... harmful to you combined with lying to your loved ones and threathening your family should the dip bring about health troubles or death. So get angry boys! and stay angry! its helped me focus like nothing else has.
I thought my hardest moments would be to see other people dipping in front of me....Totally wrong. For some reason that hasn't been a problem at all. What I have a hard time with is breaking my dip habits...mainly after meals, on drives, and first thing in the morning. Each of which is when I have learned to "embrace the suck!" I have taken a perverse liking to taking on my hardest and most trying moments and winning that battle...so even though I am chewing gum and early on chewing mint pouches, I am trying more and more to just deal with these cravings head on...Not using anything...embracing the suck and getting after it. FYI when I first read that phrase (embrace the suck) I thought it sounded stupid. Now I am living by that motto.
I have read some guys talk about feeling more healthy. That hasn't really happened to me. I never had mouth aches or sores while dipping and therefore quitting hasn't made my mouth feel better. Also its not like I am more energetic or active, if anything I am more tired. (what about you long time quitters? Do you feel healthier? and how?) To me it seems that is the one advantage smokers have when quitting over us...the longer they quit the healthier they feel. Anyway just a few thoughts on my journey...Would love to hear yours.

-Granger

You are doing great but remember to keep it close- I am on day 46 and the past few days have been some of the most challenging- mentally- I have had the voice trying to justify it running in the back of my head lately and it really pisses me off but thankfully I have KTC so I knew that shit would be coming and if I need I have quit brothers to lean on.

[jake frawley]

Day 20 of my quit and I thought I would add some thoughts on the journey.
First, this quit seems so much different than my past weak assed attempts, and KTC is responsible for a lot of that. (more on that later) Unlike past times my mind is not trying to play stupid tricks on me. Like, "You should have a dip now and then quit again tomorrow" Or "you are gaining weight, why don't you dip to get your weight down than quit again" etc. In the past my mind used to come up with all sorts of nonsense to why I should buy a tin of Kodiak. This time....not once. It's as if my subconscience knows how committed I am and isn't trying to play games. I still have craves, but they don't come with my mind making up fake justifications for dipping again.
Second reading stories about other people quitting has been a huge motivator for me. It seems like all of us have the same basic background...started dipping in highschool (usually due to peer pressure or sports) Dipped for years...tried multiple times to unsuccessfully quit. Either got health scares, or got sick of hiding and being caught dipping by a family member. Came to this site because we couldn't figure out a way to quit. Then started kicking ass quitting.
All the reasons for starting, the problems quiting, and the symptoms experienced when quiting has made me realize this is not a process unique to me, and if you guys can quit, I can as well.
What I love most about this sight is the anger. I have never really unleashed my anger at my addiction until I came to KTC. Up until 20 days ago I mainly just felt sorry for myself (what can I do I'm addicted)...or worse yet nothing at all. I don't want to chew tobacco, and yet something else is making me. Imagine that happening in any other facet of your life. Being forced to do anything that is harmful to you and hurtful or threatening to your family! Would that piss you off? You're God damned right it would, and that is exactly what nicotine is... harmful to you combined with lying to your loved ones and threathening your family should the dip bring about health troubles or death. So get angry boys! and stay angry! its helped me focus like nothing else has.
I thought my hardest moments would be to see other people dipping in front of me....Totally wrong. For some reason that hasn't been a problem at all. What I have a hard time with is breaking my dip habits...mainly after meals, on drives, and first thing in the morning. Each of which is when I have learned to "embrace the suck!" I have taken a perverse liking to taking on my hardest and most trying moments and winning that battle...so even though I am chewing gum and early on chewing mint pouches, I am trying more and more to just deal with these cravings head on...Not using anything...embracing the suck and getting after it. FYI when I first read that phrase (embrace the suck) I thought it sounded stupid. Now I am living by that motto.
I have read some guys talk about feeling more healthy. That hasn't really happened to me. I never had mouth aches or sores while dipping and therefore quitting hasn't made my mouth feel better. Also its not like I am more energetic or active, if anything I am more tired. (what about you long time quitters? Do you feel healthier? and how?) To me it seems that is the one advantage smokers have when quitting over us...the longer they quit the healthier they feel. Anyway just a few thoughts on my journey...Would love to hear yours.

-Granger

I love the attitude!

[Dagranger]

Day 20 of my quit and I thought I would add some thoughts on the journey.
First, this quit seems so much different than my past weak assed attempts, and KTC is responsible for a lot of that. (more on that later) Unlike past times my mind is not trying to play stupid tricks on me. Like, "You should have a dip now and then quit again tomorrow" Or "you are gaining weight, why don't you dip to get your weight down than quit again" etc. In the past my mind used to come up with all sorts of nonsense to why I should buy a tin of Kodiak. This time....not once. It's as if my subconscience knows how committed I am and isn't trying to play games. I still have craves, but they don't come with my mind making up fake justifications for dipping again.
Second reading stories about other people quitting has been a huge motivator for me. It seems like all of us have the same basic background...started dipping in highschool (usually due to peer pressure or sports) Dipped for years...tried multiple times to unsuccessfully quit. Either got health scares, or got sick of hiding and being caught dipping by a family member. Came to this site because we couldn't figure out a way to quit. Then started kicking ass quitting.
All the reasons for starting, the problems quiting, and the symptoms experienced when quiting has made me realize this is not a process unique to me, and if you guys can quit, I can as well.
What I love most about this sight is the anger. I have never really unleashed my anger at my addiction until I came to KTC. Up until 20 days ago I mainly just felt sorry for myself (what can I do I'm addicted)...or worse yet nothing at all. I don't want to chew tobacco, and yet something else is making me. Imagine that happening in any other facet of your life. Being forced to do anything that is harmful to you and hurtful or threatening to your family! Would that piss you off? You're God damned right it would, and that is exactly what nicotine is... harmful to you combined with lying to your loved ones and threathening your family should the dip bring about health troubles or death. So get angry boys! and stay angry! its helped me focus like nothing else has.
I thought my hardest moments would be to see other people dipping in front of me....Totally wrong. For some reason that hasn't been a problem at all. What I have a hard time with is breaking my dip habits...mainly after meals, on drives, and first thing in the morning. Each of which is when I have learned to "embrace the suck!" I have taken a perverse liking to taking on my hardest and most trying moments and winning that battle...so even though I am chewing gum and early on chewing mint pouches, I am trying more and more to just deal with these cravings head on...Not using anything...embracing the suck and getting after it. FYI when I first read that phrase (embrace the suck) I thought it sounded stupid. Now I am living by that motto.
I have read some guys talk about feeling more healthy. That hasn't really happened to me. I never had mouth aches or sores while dipping and therefore quitting hasn't made my mouth feel better. Also its not like I am more energetic or active, if anything I am more tired. (what about you long time quitters? Do you feel healthier? and how?) To me it seems that is the one advantage smokers have when quitting over us...the longer they quit the healthier they feel. Anyway just a few thoughts on my journey...Would love to hear yours.

-Granger

[Wt57]

GRIND. Hour by hour, minute by minute if need be. I was you to a tee.

Your brain probably has D. I. P. stamped on it. You need to keep it occupied.

READ as much as you can on this site. And I mean EVERYTHING. It will not only kkeep your mind busy but some of this shit is very motivating.

You're here, it sucks...might as well just do it once and do it right .

You got this shiznit.

Hey jerk-off, Diesel has it right, listen to him and others. A lot of us were stupid ninja dippers hiding and lying to those we love the most. Coming clean and laying all my lies out to my wife was where so much of my freedom came from.
Our brains may be stamped D.I.P or R.I.P. but I'm imprinting mine everyday with Q.U.I.T. (Quit under intense temptation) 'Roam'. I challenge you to do the same. You can do that while jerkin' off too, I would think.

[jhaenel23]

Hey man saw you are having trouble getting roll posted and you didn't make it on the list today but i did see where you tried. I sent you a pm let me know if you want me to walk you thru it, it kicked my ass for a few times as well. By the way welcome to the brotherhood! I quit with you!

I appreciate the message and offer. I think I figured it out this morning. Just the combination of nicotine withdrawal fog, old school website design, and me using an iPad has me befuddled. Still quitting strong. And by the way I'm amazed at the effort you longer term quitters give this site and new quitters in general. Totally selfless and full of class. Thanks. Well classy except for Bean joking about committing hit and runs. Everything else full of class

That is what this place is all about! 252 days into my quit and I am fully aware of a few things that YOU will have to figure out. 1. You are an Addict. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but its the truth. 2. This site and the quitters on it saved my life and they will save yours. You have to call a fellow quitter before you even think about caving! If you can come up with a good reason to have that chew and you can convince that fellow quitter....then chew on my friend. But what you find out is that trying to rationalize your addiction to another Quitter/Addict will be impossible. 3. Post roll every morning and Keep your word. That is all we have on here is our Word and Honor.


One Day at A Time my friend!!


Reach out if you need anything!!


J

[Dagranger]

Hey man saw you are having trouble getting roll posted and you didn't make it on the list today but i did see where you tried. I sent you a pm let me know if you want me to walk you thru it, it kicked my ass for a few times as well. By the way welcome to the brotherhood! I quit with you!

I appreciate the message and offer. I think I figured it out this morning. Just the combination of nicotine withdrawal fog, old school website design, and me using an iPad has me befuddled. Still quitting strong. And by the way I'm amazed at the effort you longer term quitters give this site and new quitters in general. Totally selfless and full of class. Thanks. Well classy except for Bean joking about committing hit and runs. Everything else full of class

[Erussell]

Hey man saw you are having trouble getting roll posted and you didn't make it on the list today but i did see where you tried. I sent you a pm let me know if you want me to walk you thru it, it kicked my ass for a few times as well. By the way welcome to the brotherhood! I quit with you!

[Mthomas3824]

GREAT CHOICE DAGRANGER!!!  I thought I might share a few things I now do without dip...

1) kill homeless people
2) perform hit 'n run traffic accidents
3) start wild fires in the...

WAIT A MINUTE!!!  Nevermind, forget it....I no longer do that that stuff...uh, I mean...I never did that stuff...I mean...well, you know...

'crackup'

[Bean]

GREAT CHOICE DAGRANGER!!! I thought I might share a few things I now do without dip...

1) kill homeless people
2) perform hit 'n run traffic accidents
3) start wild fires in the...

WAIT A MINUTE!!! Nevermind, forget it....I no longer do that that stuff...uh, I mean...I never did that stuff...I mean...well, you know...

[Dougie]

Enjoy taking your life back and living an honest life with your wife. I was guilty of the same bullshit and the past 28 days of having an honest marriage have been wonderful. I quit with you today

[Diesel2112]

GRIND. Hour by hour, minute by minute if need be. I was you to a tee.

Your brain probably has D. I. P. stamped on it. You need to keep it occupied.

READ as much as you can on this site. And I mean EVERYTHING. It will not only kkeep your mind busy but some of this shit is very motivating.

You're here, it sucks...might as well just do it once and do it right .

You got this shiznit.

[Eor2012]

Hi Dag,

Welcome. It's not a fun start but it pays off. I am on day 5 so we will be in October together. I wish I could say more and offer some war speech but I am in super fog right now and hating (yet embracing) every moment of it.

If there is one thing I can say.... start posting roll (find and read the why we do it section, it's a good read), keep your word, and STAY quit. Don't quit, cave, and come back like I did. It's worse the second time around.

[kkljinc]

Welcome to KTC, Dag. Well,you sound exactly like everyone else here, and that is a good thing my friend! We have all done it. We have all been through it. We will help you be a bad ass quitter too!!!

1st. Hit the welcome center, Pink link up by the banner.
2. post roll in October, this will be your lifeline group. This will be the group you become accountable too.
3. water, hydrate the crap out of yourself, get your tools ready, seeds, gum, cand or fake chew whatever you need to keep your mind occupied.

This wont be easy, but our system is, make a promise every day, keep that promise, and do it again tomorrow. Get involved, the deeper you get the more quit resolve you will have. Welcome, to your QUIT.

[DiplessinJax]

Hey everyone I'm here on my 2nd day of my quit after 26 years of addiction minus three years of what I thought was a quit until I stupidly thought I wasn't addicted anymore and had a dip...adding another 9 years to my addiction. I lived a life of denial since being married 12 years ago. My wife thought I wasn't chewing or if I was I was only doing it occasionally when i hung out with my buddies. Meanwhile a tin a day, hidden and planned around my wife who I love. Fuck I hate myself for that. Doing something that brings me absolutely no pleasure, and lying to my wife the whole time. Every nine months or so getting busted and then repenting and apologizing to my wife. FUCK!!!! I feel like a heroin addict lying and sneaking...all to put a plant in my mouth! Unbelieveable. SO I'm here to join the rest of you angry humps and attack this head on. Things I will learn to do without dipping
Shitting
Driving
Golfing
Coaching
Resting after a meal
Jerking Off (Don't lie dip addicts you know you did this)
Drinking Beers
Hanging out with people who are dipping (God I'm not ready for that yet!)

At 36 hours this is the 3rd longest i have ever lived with a quit!

You are heading in the right direction and congrats on your decision. The rules are simple:

Post roll first thing every day
Keep your promise not to use Nic in any form all day
Wake up and do it again the next day

I will also add that you should stay close to the site and get in chat, read everything you can on the site. Scary or not, it may save your life. Make a few friends and get phone numbers. If you are freaking out, send a mass text and your phone will soon be blowing up. Text just to see how your fellow quitters are doing. Again, make a few friends.

Quit for youself first. Make your quit the most important part of your life until you're ready to start bringing other aspects of it back in. That doesn't mean you can't coach, hangout or do the things you love. Just understand what will trigger you the most and expose yourself to them with caution.

Check you PM for a note. Proud to be quit with you today!

DiplessinJax