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[J2b]

Seeing folks who supposedly "get it" cave is a real kick in the nuts. For those who know what it takes to get quit, its hard to fathom why you would throw it away. For those who proactively protect their quit, its hard to understand why you would even entertain the thought. For those who still deal with craves, dip dreams, survivors remorse, etc - its hard to even imagine why you would want to invite that back into your life.

The key thing to remember is that quit is not just an action, its a lifestyle choice. stopping is like a diet, you fall off the diet, gain a few pounds, get back on it. Quitting is changing your eating habits and exercise habits so you NEVER have to diet again. Its a full shift in mentality from "well, I cant have that because I quit" to "I dont want, need, or desire that. It does NOTHING good for me." Its knowing you could go back at anytime, and CHOOSING not to.

So when someone caves - its ALWAYS a conscious choice, but its one that started long before the actual act of caving. Long ago they did not embrace quit, they forgot what it takes to quit, they stopped protecting their quit, and they forgot that their is not a damn thing nicotine does to make life better.

Nearly every cave story starts off with "just 1" be it chew, cigar, smoke, etc. The ones we read here end with another day 1 after "just 1" becomes "back to where I was or worse."

New guys - protect your quit by posting roll and getting involved in every way possible. Embrace the suck and let it burn into your soul. Make quit your lifestyle instead of just another "diet." There is NO force on earth that would stop me from doing everything I can to prolong my life here with my family and friends. Is there temptation? Of course, we are only human. But there is also temptation for cheating on my wife, stealing, being black out drunk or high, gorging on unhealthy foods constantly, stopping workouts, etc. Sometimes its easy to say no, sometimes its hard to say no - but the answer is ALWAYS no.

There is no fucking way I am making a "conscious decision" to do anything remotely related to ingesting nicotine. I cannot think of a single reason why anyone who has invested any time into their quit would.

[Thumblewort]

http://www.mattynice.com/open-letters/2 ... and-browns

Fucking nailed it. See you next Sunday. 'bang head'

Change Browns to Lions and yup......... 'bang head'

[J2b]

http://www.mattynice.com/open-letters/2 ... and-browns

Fucking nailed it. See you next Sunday. 'bang head'

[J2b]

You were right j2b! I see a lot of what went on in my mind in your introduction and HOF speech. Also, your journal is like reading a blog of my life for the last 65 days.

My wife will be having our second child in October, so I'll be coming to you for some advice on dealing with craves in that stress!

Congrats on the new addition, and by all means hit me up. Also, congrats on 65 - that is huge!

Like I said, the biggest surprise to me on KTC was how many folks were just like me - and were able to do this. It's why excuses about how you can't do it or how hard it is don't fly around here.

All you have to do take this shit seriously, reach out, and invest in your quit. It's so worth it.

[BigKahuna]

You were right j2b! I see a lot of what went on in my mind in your introduction and HOF speech. Also, your journal is like reading a blog of my life for the last 65 days.

My wife will be having our second child in October, so I'll be coming to you for some advice on dealing with craves in that stress!

[Scowick65]

Been a crazy week having a newborn in the house again - everybody's routine is whacked out, the older boys are trying to balance being infatuated with the baby and being, well, 5 and 3 years old. Wife and I are trying to figure out zone defense vs man, sleep (or lack thereof) schedules, etc.

I go back to work next week, wife is off for six weeks (at least), and we are keeping the boys in daycare for 3 days to try and keep them in routine which will make mornings real interesting.

So far, mom and baby are doing great. Nolan eats like a champ, sleeps hard, and repeats. I haven't been able to get in here as much as normal, but my promise is made daily none the less and I do make it a point to read and try and keep up. Gotta say, this place is running like a champ right now. Love seeing the brotherhood growing in the new groups, reading the discussions, and seeing so many take back the freedom.

It is so worth it. I am sitting here holding my infant while he sleeps with no spitter, no need to hand him off to the wife to go pack a lip, just me and him.

My older boys will also have no memory of me being a slave. That to me is worth more then any other benefit quitting has provided. I quit for me, to have more time with them, and to end the chain of nicotine addiction that has poisoned my family for far to long.

Anyone on the fence about quitting, do it. Do it now. Give whatever it takes, embrace every bit of the suck, and take back your life. The benefits of quitting are not just better health and more money - it goes so far beyond that. I can't explain it any better than that, you will just have to join me.

J2b - 1,482 days of glorious freedom. See you all on roll tomorrow.

'worship' thanks for all you do here josh!

Good stuff J2B. Congrats on the new addition.

congrats.

[Its_Got2Happen]

Been a crazy week having a newborn in the house again - everybody's routine is whacked out, the older boys are trying to balance being infatuated with the baby and being, well, 5 and 3 years old. Wife and I are trying to figure out zone defense vs man, sleep (or lack thereof) schedules, etc.

I go back to work next week, wife is off for six weeks (at least), and we are keeping the boys in daycare for 3 days to try and keep them in routine which will make mornings real interesting.

So far, mom and baby are doing great. Nolan eats like a champ, sleeps hard, and repeats. I haven't been able to get in here as much as normal, but my promise is made daily none the less and I do make it a point to read and try and keep up. Gotta say, this place is running like a champ right now. Love seeing the brotherhood growing in the new groups, reading the discussions, and seeing so many take back the freedom.

It is so worth it. I am sitting here holding my infant while he sleeps with no spitter, no need to hand him off to the wife to go pack a lip, just me and him.

My older boys will also have no memory of me being a slave. That to me is worth more then any other benefit quitting has provided. I quit for me, to have more time with them, and to end the chain of nicotine addiction that has poisoned my family for far to long.

Anyone on the fence about quitting, do it. Do it now. Give whatever it takes, embrace every bit of the suck, and take back your life. The benefits of quitting are not just better health and more money - it goes so far beyond that. I can't explain it any better than that, you will just have to join me.

J2b - 1,482 days of glorious freedom. See you all on roll tomorrow.

'worship' thanks for all you do here josh!

Good stuff J2B. Congrats on the new addition.

[basshaug]

Been a crazy week having a newborn in the house again - everybody's routine is whacked out, the older boys are trying to balance being infatuated with the baby and being, well, 5 and 3 years old. Wife and I are trying to figure out zone defense vs man, sleep (or lack thereof) schedules, etc.

I go back to work next week, wife is off for six weeks (at least), and we are keeping the boys in daycare for 3 days to try and keep them in routine which will make mornings real interesting.

So far, mom and baby are doing great. Nolan eats like a champ, sleeps hard, and repeats. I haven't been able to get in here as much as normal, but my promise is made daily none the less and I do make it a point to read and try and keep up. Gotta say, this place is running like a champ right now. Love seeing the brotherhood growing in the new groups, reading the discussions, and seeing so many take back the freedom.

It is so worth it. I am sitting here holding my infant while he sleeps with no spitter, no need to hand him off to the wife to go pack a lip, just me and him.

My older boys will also have no memory of me being a slave. That to me is worth more then any other benefit quitting has provided. I quit for me, to have more time with them, and to end the chain of nicotine addiction that has poisoned my family for far to long.

Anyone on the fence about quitting, do it. Do it now. Give whatever it takes, embrace every bit of the suck, and take back your life. The benefits of quitting are not just better health and more money - it goes so far beyond that. I can't explain it any better than that, you will just have to join me.

J2b - 1,482 days of glorious freedom. See you all on roll tomorrow.

'worship' thanks for all you do here josh!

[J2b]

Been a crazy week having a newborn in the house again - everybody's routine is whacked out, the older boys are trying to balance being infatuated with the baby and being, well, 5 and 3 years old. Wife and I are trying to figure out zone defense vs man, sleep (or lack thereof) schedules, etc.

I go back to work next week, wife is off for six weeks (at least), and we are keeping the boys in daycare for 3 days to try and keep them in routine which will make mornings real interesting.

So far, mom and baby are doing great. Nolan eats like a champ, sleeps hard, and repeats. I haven't been able to get in here as much as normal, but my promise is made daily none the less and I do make it a point to read and try and keep up. Gotta say, this place is running like a champ right now. Love seeing the brotherhood growing in the new groups, reading the discussions, and seeing so many take back the freedom.

It is so worth it. I am sitting here holding my infant while he sleeps with no spitter, no need to hand him off to the wife to go pack a lip, just me and him.

My older boys will also have no memory of me being a slave. That to me is worth more then any other benefit quitting has provided. I quit for me, to have more time with them, and to end the chain of nicotine addiction that has poisoned my family for far to long.

Anyone on the fence about quitting, do it. Do it now. Give whatever it takes, embrace every bit of the suck, and take back your life. The benefits of quitting are not just better health and more money - it goes so far beyond that. I can't explain it any better than that, you will just have to join me.

J2b - 1,482 days of glorious freedom. See you all on roll tomorrow.

[basshaug]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!

Congrats on the new addition

Congratulations j2b!

Congrats J2!

Wonderful news! Enjoy these awesome days!

Congrats Josh!

[Thumblewort]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!

Congrats on the new addition

Congratulations j2b!

Congrats J2!

Wonderful news! Enjoy these awesome days!

[Done4Me]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!

Congrats on the new addition

Congratulations j2b!

Congrats J2!

[worktowin]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!

Congrats on the new addition

Congratulations j2b!

[Raider]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!

Congrats on the new addition

[J2b]

Sitting here waiting on #3. Eviction is being served, here is hoping it's quicker then the other two.

Can't wait to meet this little stubborn ball of joy.

Good luck, man. I'll say a prayer for momma and baby.

What G said, plus dad. Look forward to an update!

He is here!

9lbs 6oz, 20.5", born at 9:34.

Healthy.

Both are doing great!