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[Doc Chewfree]

Today my father would have turned 60. COPD and Emphysema from years of smoking and construction work took him away from us February 17, 2013.

Fuck you Nic bitch. As god as my witness the cycle died with him. I helped kill it 1353 days ago.

BAD. ASS.

Congrats.

Sweet freedom! Way to break the cycle. Tobacco has claimed many in my families history as well. Congrats on what you have accomplished.

The truth will set you free!

Nice job, J2B!
I'll hold the bitch while you continue to beat her.

[Thumblewort]

Today my father would have turned 60. COPD and Emphysema from years of smoking and construction work took him away from us February 17, 2013.

Fuck you Nic bitch. As god as my witness the cycle died with him. I helped kill it 1353 days ago.

BAD. ASS.

Congrats.

Sweet freedom! Way to break the cycle. Tobacco has claimed many in my families history as well. Congrats on what you have accomplished.

The truth will set you free!

[SAM83]

Today my father would have turned 60. COPD and Emphysema from years of smoking and construction work took him away from us February 17, 2013.

Fuck you Nic bitch. As god as my witness the cycle died with him. I helped kill it 1353 days ago.

BAD. ASS.

Congrats.

Sweet freedom! Way to break the cycle. Tobacco has claimed many in my families history as well. Congrats on what you have accomplished.

[Diesel2112]

Today my father would have turned 60. COPD and Emphysema from years of smoking and construction work took him away from us February 17, 2013.

Fuck you Nic bitch. As god as my witness the cycle died with him. I helped kill it 1353 days ago.

BAD. ASS.

Congrats.

[J2b]

Today my father would have turned 60. COPD and Emphysema from years of smoking and construction work took him away from us February 17, 2013.

Fuck you Nic bitch. As god as my witness the cycle died with him. I helped kill it 1353 days ago.

[Thumblewort]

13th floor. Congrats j2b. Watch your 6 up (down?) there.

Yep, congrats on 1300. Don't take the elevator.

Gratz on the 13th floor brother!

[Done4Me]

13th floor. Congrats j2b. Watch your 6 up (down?) there.

Yep, congrats on 1300. Don't take the elevator.

[basshaug]

13th floor. Congrats j2b. Watch your 6 up (down?) there.

[Tuco]

Seems like you've been getting a steady stream of curveballs lately. The thing about having a 1200+ day quit under your belt is that any passing thoughts of dip/nic are now nice, slow, hanging curves - just waiting to be crushed. Swing for the fences on those.

Soon enough the hit parade of craptastrophes will begin to subside. That's just the ebb and flow of things, but you already know that. You've got an army of quitters at your back, too, ready to be leaned on.

Congrats on Baby #3!

[Air Force ADDICT]

What. A. Fucking. Summer....

Found out baby #3 was on the way early on. About a week or two later, wife was given a choice to quit or be fired over some pretty flimsy BS despite a pretty outstanding performance history. Pretty stressful as she brought in about 1/3 of the household income. Top it off with a vacation that was already essentially paid for and non-refundable. Whole family really needed a week away, but would have preferred to do it a bit cheaper. This past weekend, the city went on water lockdown when testing on the water revealed above permissible levels of toxins. No consumption for anyone, no contact for kids and those with weakened immune systems (sick, old, pregnant, etc). City did well other than the initial craziness of buying water by the truckload. Sunday, my older son asked for bug medicine for a bite. He always has a reaction to mosquito and spider bites; they just look bad and occasionally blister. I looked at this one and saw red tracks running from his wrist to above his elbow. At first it just looked like a dog scratch, but it felt warm and had no noticeable claw mark. Maybe juice? No bueno - baby wipe didnt do shit.

Took him to the ER, and he was basically admitted immediately. Cellulitis/infection. IV antibiotics for 24 hours. We were nervous as hell, since there have been two confirmed mosquito samples with West Nile in the city. Luckily this was just an infection, and he was out yesterday. Of course giving a 4 year old 11ml 3x a day for 10 days of some pretty vile shit is gonna present some challenges, but it could be much worse.

Needless to say, this has been one hell of a summer. Nobody died and nobody has been seriously injured, but some of these blows are the long term, pressing kind of shit. I have felt every bit of it, that is for damn sure. I realized that stupid thoughts of just one were creeping in. "Just one will make it all better." Fuck that. 1200+ days, I know that this shit would have happened using or not and it certainly wasnt going to go away if I picked up some death; usually throwing cancer on top of other problems is not the best idea.

In addition to posting roll, I have relied on the tools here (texting groups, posting, using fake/seeds/etc) and they have been a huge help. Most importantly, leaning on KTC brothers has been a godsend. My original 3balled brothers to the newer quitters that I trade jabs with have all helped me get through some shitty times. Everyday I am thankful I found this place, and that there are so many willing souls to keep this fight going and help each other out.

My quit is mine - I own it. But there is no way I would be here if not for the men of KTC. Thank you all for helping this dumbass addict save his life, over and over again.

You were drinking the Kool-Aid long before you convinced me to join you in a glass, and you walked the walk brother. A great example here of one of our leaders using the same tools we all were taught to use. Proud to be quit with you today.

That's crazy bro. Thanks for sharing. And I echo what Thumblewort said too. And last, congratulations on baby #3.

[Thumblewort]

What. A. Fucking. Summer....

Found out baby #3 was on the way early on. About a week or two later, wife was given a choice to quit or be fired over some pretty flimsy BS despite a pretty outstanding performance history. Pretty stressful as she brought in about 1/3 of the household income. Top it off with a vacation that was already essentially paid for and non-refundable. Whole family really needed a week away, but would have preferred to do it a bit cheaper. This past weekend, the city went on water lockdown when testing on the water revealed above permissible levels of toxins. No consumption for anyone, no contact for kids and those with weakened immune systems (sick, old, pregnant, etc). City did well other than the initial craziness of buying water by the truckload. Sunday, my older son asked for bug medicine for a bite. He always has a reaction to mosquito and spider bites; they just look bad and occasionally blister. I looked at this one and saw red tracks running from his wrist to above his elbow. At first it just looked like a dog scratch, but it felt warm and had no noticeable claw mark. Maybe juice? No bueno - baby wipe didnt do shit.

Took him to the ER, and he was basically admitted immediately. Cellulitis/infection. IV antibiotics for 24 hours. We were nervous as hell, since there have been two confirmed mosquito samples with West Nile in the city. Luckily this was just an infection, and he was out yesterday. Of course giving a 4 year old 11ml 3x a day for 10 days of some pretty vile shit is gonna present some challenges, but it could be much worse.

Needless to say, this has been one hell of a summer. Nobody died and nobody has been seriously injured, but some of these blows are the long term, pressing kind of shit. I have felt every bit of it, that is for damn sure. I realized that stupid thoughts of just one were creeping in. "Just one will make it all better." Fuck that. 1200+ days, I know that this shit would have happened using or not and it certainly wasnt going to go away if I picked up some death; usually throwing cancer on top of other problems is not the best idea.

In addition to posting roll, I have relied on the tools here (texting groups, posting, using fake/seeds/etc) and they have been a huge help. Most importantly, leaning on KTC brothers has been a godsend. My original 3balled brothers to the newer quitters that I trade jabs with have all helped me get through some shitty times. Everyday I am thankful I found this place, and that there are so many willing souls to keep this fight going and help each other out.

My quit is mine - I own it. But there is no way I would be here if not for the men of KTC. Thank you all for helping this dumbass addict save his life, over and over again.

You were drinking the Kool-Aid long before you convinced me to join you in a glass, and you walked the walk brother. A great example here of one of our leaders using the same tools we all were taught to use. Proud to be quit with you today.

[J2b]

What. A. Fucking. Summer....

Found out baby #3 was on the way early on. About a week or two later, wife was given a choice to quit or be fired over some pretty flimsy BS despite a pretty outstanding performance history. Pretty stressful as she brought in about 1/3 of the household income. Top it off with a vacation that was already essentially paid for and non-refundable. Whole family really needed a week away, but would have preferred to do it a bit cheaper. This past weekend, the city went on water lockdown when testing on the water revealed above permissible levels of toxins. No consumption for anyone, no contact for kids and those with weakened immune systems (sick, old, pregnant, etc). City did well other than the initial craziness of buying water by the truckload. Sunday, my older son asked for bug medicine for a bite. He always has a reaction to mosquito and spider bites; they just look bad and occasionally blister. I looked at this one and saw red tracks running from his wrist to above his elbow. At first it just looked like a dog scratch, but it felt warm and had no noticeable claw mark. Maybe juice? No bueno - baby wipe didnt do shit.

Took him to the ER, and he was basically admitted immediately. Cellulitis/infection. IV antibiotics for 24 hours. We were nervous as hell, since there have been two confirmed mosquito samples with West Nile in the city. Luckily this was just an infection, and he was out yesterday. Of course giving a 4 year old 11ml 3x a day for 10 days of some pretty vile shit is gonna present some challenges, but it could be much worse.

Needless to say, this has been one hell of a summer. Nobody died and nobody has been seriously injured, but some of these blows are the long term, pressing kind of shit. I have felt every bit of it, that is for damn sure. I realized that stupid thoughts of just one were creeping in. "Just one will make it all better." Fuck that. 1200+ days, I know that this shit would have happened using or not and it certainly wasnt going to go away if I picked up some death; usually throwing cancer on top of other problems is not the best idea.

In addition to posting roll, I have relied on the tools here (texting groups, posting, using fake/seeds/etc) and they have been a huge help. Most importantly, leaning on KTC brothers has been a godsend. My original 3balled brothers to the newer quitters that I trade jabs with have all helped me get through some shitty times. Everyday I am thankful I found this place, and that there are so many willing souls to keep this fight going and help each other out.

My quit is mine - I own it. But there is no way I would be here if not for the men of KTC. Thank you all for helping this dumbass addict save his life, over and over again.

[J2b]

Roll call is not a responsibility, it is a privilege and an honor.

I disagree with this on every level.

You don't really get it do you?
Posting roll is not a privilege... It is not a reward or benefit.
It. Is. A. Responsibility.

You don't GET to post roll... You NEED to post roll.
You dig?

It's not an honor to post roll... Posting roll is something you must honor.

Throw as many words around as you want but you still have it backwards and therein lies the problem. Stop patting yourself on the back for doing nothing special...

Excuse me here.

I believe posting roll IS a privilige. It is not a burden, or a cross I bear.

I am Quit today. I am Quit because of this place and it's brotherhood and accountability.

I do not honor this place as a burden. I honor this place with my daily pledge.

And I honor it daily.

I'm sorry bro, I disagree with you on this, but not on every level.

I Quit today. You Quit today.

We may be looking through different colored glasses, but we are seeing the same image.

Fuck I'm tired of this shit.

I am not. What roll means to each of us and how we look at it is entirely up to you. So long as you give your word and honor it every day, it can be an honor, a privilege, a burden, a reminder, a responsibility - whatever you need it to be so long as you understand what it means and why you are doing it.

I posted in my intro what it means to me and how I think of it. As a reminder to me. You don't have to agree and I don't expect everyone to agree.

Quit on.

You, however, I still have issue with.

But... It does no good to argue against a viewpoint that bends every which way.

OK then.

I have started my viewpoint quite clearly. You have stated yours. Not sure how mine is bending every which way. I don't know why you have a problem with my view point.

Posting roll is not my responsibility - raising my kids, going to work, and paying taxes are my responsibilities. Posting roll every morning with the 3ballers is an honor and a privilege. It is an honor to be a member of this site. It is a privilege to put my name on the line with some of the baddest fucking people on the planet every day.

You are right that i need to post roll; I am an addict. But I don't have to post roll. No one is putting a gun to my head. I do it because I know that before KTC quitting was an impossible dream best put off until tomorrow. Since KTC I have kept that shit out of my lip for over 3 years. I have used the tools to weave a web of accountability so thick it would be epic if I failed (thanks waste).

Does that clear it up for you? Or is there some other issue you would like me to address? Would you be more comfortable pm'Ing, texting, calling, or posting here?

sigh
"Posting roll is not my responsibility"

You're an Admin of this site and... you actually said that!?

I'm done here, bro. You just do NOT get where I'm coming from. Look up responsibility.
You don't need me cluttering up your thread and I don't need a Charlie Brown leader.

Rock your quit... I'll rock mine.

The color in my name does give me responsibility - but first and foremost I am a quitter, and taking on the responsibility of beinga mod or Admin won't change how I view roll call or the standard I should be held to. I have posted roll every day for 1,249 days. I have been a mod or Admin for less than half of those (I think).

I believe in roll call and why we do it. Color has no bearing on that. I expect every quitter to post roll every day. Period.

[AppleJack]

Roll call is not a responsibility, it is a privilege and an honor.

I disagree with this on every level.

You don't really get it do you?
Posting roll is not a privilege... It is not a reward or benefit.
It. Is. A. Responsibility.

You don't GET to post roll... You NEED to post roll.
You dig?

It's not an honor to post roll... Posting roll is something you must honor.

Throw as many words around as you want but you still have it backwards and therein lies the problem. Stop patting yourself on the back for doing nothing special...

Excuse me here.

I believe posting roll IS a privilige. It is not a burden, or a cross I bear.

I am Quit today. I am Quit because of this place and it's brotherhood and accountability.

I do not honor this place as a burden. I honor this place with my daily pledge.

And I honor it daily.

I'm sorry bro, I disagree with you on this, but not on every level.

I Quit today. You Quit today.

We may be looking through different colored glasses, but we are seeing the same image.

Fuck I'm tired of this shit.

I am not. What roll means to each of us and how we look at it is entirely up to you. So long as you give your word and honor it every day, it can be an honor, a privilege, a burden, a reminder, a responsibility - whatever you need it to be so long as you understand what it means and why you are doing it.

I posted in my intro what it means to me and how I think of it. As a reminder to me. You don't have to agree and I don't expect everyone to agree.

Quit on.

You, however, I still have issue with.

But... It does no good to argue against a viewpoint that bends every which way.

OK then.

I have started my viewpoint quite clearly. You have stated yours. Not sure how mine is bending every which way. I don't know why you have a problem with my view point.

Posting roll is not my responsibility - raising my kids, going to work, and paying taxes are my responsibilities. Posting roll every morning with the 3ballers is an honor and a privilege. It is an honor to be a member of this site. It is a privilege to put my name on the line with some of the baddest fucking people on the planet every day.

You are right that i need to post roll; I am an addict. But I don't have to post roll. No one is putting a gun to my head. I do it because I know that before KTC quitting was an impossible dream best put off until tomorrow. Since KTC I have kept that shit out of my lip for over 3 years. I have used the tools to weave a web of accountability so thick it would be epic if I failed (thanks waste).

Does that clear it up for you? Or is there some other issue you would like me to address? Would you be more comfortable pm'Ing, texting, calling, or posting here?

sigh
"Posting roll is not my responsibility"

You're an Admin of this site and... you actually said that!?

I'm done here, bro. You just do NOT get where I'm coming from. Look up responsibility.
You don't need me cluttering up your thread and I don't need a Charlie Brown leader.

Rock your quit... I'll rock mine.

[J2b]

Roll call is not a responsibility, it is a privilege and an honor.

I disagree with this on every level.

You don't really get it do you?
Posting roll is not a privilege... It is not a reward or benefit.
It. Is. A. Responsibility.

You don't GET to post roll... You NEED to post roll.
You dig?

It's not an honor to post roll... Posting roll is something you must honor.

Throw as many words around as you want but you still have it backwards and therein lies the problem. Stop patting yourself on the back for doing nothing special...

Excuse me here.

I believe posting roll IS a privilige. It is not a burden, or a cross I bear.

I am Quit today. I am Quit because of this place and it's brotherhood and accountability.

I do not honor this place as a burden. I honor this place with my daily pledge.

And I honor it daily.

I'm sorry bro, I disagree with you on this, but not on every level.

I Quit today. You Quit today.

We may be looking through different colored glasses, but we are seeing the same image.

Fuck I'm tired of this shit.

I am not. What roll means to each of us and how we look at it is entirely up to you. So long as you give your word and honor it every day, it can be an honor, a privilege, a burden, a reminder, a responsibility - whatever you need it to be so long as you understand what it means and why you are doing it.

I posted in my intro what it means to me and how I think of it. As a reminder to me. You don't have to agree and I don't expect everyone to agree.

Quit on.

You, however, I still have issue with.

But... It does no good to argue against a viewpoint that bends every which way.

OK then.

I have started my viewpoint quite clearly. You have stated yours. Not sure how mine is bending every which way. I don't know why you have a problem with my view point.

Posting roll is not my responsibility - raising my kids, going to work, and paying taxes are my responsibilities. Posting roll every morning with the 3ballers is an honor and a privilege. It is an honor to be a member of this site. It is a privilege to put my name on the line with some of the baddest fucking people on the planet every day.

You are right that i need to post roll; I am an addict. But I don't have to post roll. No one is putting a gun to my head. I do it because I know that before KTC quitting was an impossible dream best put off until tomorrow. Since KTC I have kept that shit out of my lip for over 3 years. I have used the tools to weave a web of accountability so thick it would be epic if I failed (thanks waste).

Does that clear it up for you? Or is there some other issue you would like me to address? Would you be more comfortable pm'Ing, texting, calling, or posting here?

For me a "member" of KTC posting roll is a privilege. For me as a quit addict and member of the BOQ posting roll is a responsibility if I'm going to live up to the brotherhood of my fellow BOQ. Posting roll is a reminder of the promise I made to myself and my wife (that's more personal). I find a lot in this discussion that I agree with and some I don't. As a member of KTC I look at those with colored names as examples of what works and what is expected. Right or wrong that's my view point. That's where I disagree with you J2B, since your name has color I see you have a responsibility to set the example for those of us that are just plain 'black'. All of this discussion has stirred a very sore subject matter up for me that I struggled with early in my quit. I now see it differently than I did then and I also see a possible solution that I didn't then. When someone with a colored name retires or God forbid "caves" why not take the color away and have their status show as "member". You can go ahead and have a location where they can be credited for their past service if praise is important. Looking at retired "leaders" you'll see that some haven't posted for months or years. If the post tomorrow why should their names show up in color? It appears that they are better than the average Joe.

The color in my name does give me responsibility - but first and foremost I am a quitter, and taking on the responsibility of beinga mod or Admin won't change how I view roll call or the standard I should be held to. I have posted roll every day for 1,249 days. I have been a mod or Admin for less than half of those (I think).

I believe in roll call and why we do it. Color has no bearing on that. I expect every quitter to post roll every day. Period.