6 Days Out

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

As a libertarian, I believe in personal choice and individual freedom. I have attempted to recruit my best friend and cousin to see what KTC has to offer (minus the cult-like aspects of it).

Posting roll daily and reading and responding to new quitters' introductions are what keep me goin.

I have some issues with your words. I want you to see if you can expand your mind a bit and see the reality of the world we live and the battle that we are fighting.

My issues with your statement above:

#1. As a libertarian, are you seriously pro big tobacco company?????? By clinging to your ridiculous belief that tobacco is a personal choice, you are essentially saying it is fine for large corporations to poison people and target humans for addiction and early death.

#2. KTC is not a cult, nor even cult like. Not even close. Have you really had any real-life experience with an actual cult? This is a brotherhood of quitters united against big tobacco, the nastiest addiction known to man, and #1 preventable killer of humankind. There is honor to be had here. Embrace and join us in the fight. Don't reject our beliefs that tobacco is pure fucking evil because it fits your stubborn political views. You need to adjust your thinking and see the light. Tobacco companies are terrorists on American soil.

#3. I'm glad you're posting roll daily and reading and responding to other quitters on the board. That is fantastic. But there is so much more to be had here. Have you exchanged phone #s with other quitters? Have you met other quitters in person? Are you using chat to meet other quitters on a more personal level. We are real, not just an internet message board. We will truly save your life.

I recommend you strengthen your quit by getting past this notion of KTC having cult-like aspects. Truly embrace the brotherhood here, strengthen your accountability, drop the negative notions associated with group-think when it comes to this. And please, please see the tobacco industry for what it is. Pure fucking evil. Try to get some additional accountability built up for yourself. The message board alone doesn't give you that accountability. Too easy to slip away. You need brothers. Make some friends. I promise you it will save your life. Please see what is here and don't piss on it. KTC is real people saving each other's lives in a hardcore way by not accepting bullshit excuses for caving and lying. I'm not saying you are a bullshitter. But when someone is called out for their shit, it's simply meant to make that person be honest with their own self. That is the key here, honesty. You can't successfully quit unless you become honest. So if demanding honor from other posters is considered "cult-like", then give me another dixie cup of the red stuff.

P.S. I'm glad you are recruiting your cousin. That's outstanding.

[schaef418]

Day 72 and I feel like a normal human being. Made a stop at 711 this morning for coffee, didn't even occur to me to see what was in stock behind the counter. It is a non-element in my life at this point. This is perhaps due to a convergence of different factors, maybe that I wasn't as heavy a user as some of the vets on this site. But 3-4 years on-and-off ninja style was enough to make me realize it's gotta stop at some point.

Smokey Mountain mint leaf pouches are a great substitute to satisfy the oral fixation, which I really only entertain out of boredom during softball season (right field).

There is a bittersweet feeling to know that I am on the right path, meanwhile almost everyone else on the team - mostly guys in the mid to late 20s with wives and small children - are setting themselves up for a possibly devastating diagnosis at some point.

As a libertarian, I believe in personal choice and individual freedom. I have attempted to recruit my best friend and cousin to see what KTC has to offer (minus the cult-like aspects of it).

Posting roll daily and reading and responding to new quitters' introductions are what keep me goin.

Great entry FK. Quit with you EDD. Keep up the hard work, your quit is rocking!

[FkSkoal]

Day 72 and I feel like a normal human being. Made a stop at 711 this morning for coffee, didn't even occur to me to see what was in stock behind the counter. It is a non-element in my life at this point. This is perhaps due to a convergence of different factors, maybe that I wasn't as heavy a user as some of the vets on this site. But 3-4 years on-and-off ninja style was enough to make me realize it's gotta stop at some point.

Smokey Mountain mint leaf pouches are a great substitute to satisfy the oral fixation, which I really only entertain out of boredom during softball season (right field).

There is a bittersweet feeling to know that I am on the right path, meanwhile almost everyone else on the team - mostly guys in the mid to late 20s with wives and small children - are setting themselves up for a possibly devastating diagnosis at some point.

As a libertarian, I believe in personal choice and individual freedom. I have attempted to recruit my best friend and cousin to see what KTC has to offer (minus the cult-like aspects of it).

Posting roll daily and reading and responding to new quitters' introductions are what keep me goin.

[FkSkoal]

30 days without nic. Feels so good. I have energy. I'm focused, tranquil. Like a Buddhist monk.

Physical withdrawals lasted through approximately day 10, with the most intense headaches peaking at day 4-5. Paranoia, anxiety, and weird thoughts lasted about two weeks.

I coasted through to day 20, riding the high of rage against big tobacco. After that point, I noticed the psychological withdrawal. I toyed with the thought of only packing one lip. Trying to convince myself some kind of middle-ground could be attained.

Those thoughts dominated the first 15 minutes of my morning one day while getting ready for work. I logged onto KTC, posted roll, and the simple act of doing that set me straight. I haven't had any fleeting ideas of dipping since. But I know I might in the future, which is why it is so important to post roll and remain engaged here. It has become part of my routine now. And I wouldn't change a damn thing about it.

[FkSkoal]

Happy to be on my 10th day dip free nic free.

[FkSkoal]

Two days into my quit last week, I started grinding my teeth at night. I assume from the stress of not having the bitch in my system. I bought a mouthpiece to wear at night. It ended up cutting my gum behind a wisdom tooth. Paid a visit to the dentist this morning and, unfortunately, this did cause infection so I was prescribed antibiotics. However, everything else is a clean bill of health - particularly in the very front portion of my lip, which is where I always packed. I never had any sores or spotting, thank God, but to hear that you're okay from a dentist is a huge relief. I told him about my quit (3 year dip and occasional cigars), and this forum, and he said it was the best decision I would ever make. No kidding, doc!

The point of sharing this is that you should reward yourself on your quit with a trip to the dentist who can hopefully put your mind at ease and be a source of encouragement to you in your quit!

Today is day 8 for me and I feel fucking fantastic, by the way. I am headache free, no fog to speak of. I still have tension in my neck and upper shoulders, but oh well. I am not as irritable as I was during the first 5 days.

This forum is fucking awesome. I am actively trying to recruit a cousin and good friend, both dippers, to go cold turkey like I did and JOIN THIS SITE.

[Pinched]

FkSkoal,
All of those badass quitters who have responded to you before me have given you great advice. I want to emphasize what they said with some direct links to save you a few minutes of fumbling around the site. All of the below links are links to KTC areas and are safe for your computer (perhaps sans this whole Russian data theft bullshit):

1. Your spouse/girlfriend, her support is critical and she deserves to understand more what you are going through, so see the following link and hell print it or e-mail it to her to read Spousal Support

2. Read this for yourself to make sure you fully know what to expect What to expect when you quit; some days are better then others, then eventually all days are better

3. Read the stories on here at KTC, the Kern story is a tear jerker and though you want to be around for your kids this will reinforce it dramatically, Kern's Story; then there are these words spoken by a man who lost his brother to this stupid shit Sean Marsee, damn I wish he would have talked at my middle school.

4. Find an alternative and keep it on you at all times. There will be times when going to the Convenience Store and getting a soda or anything else can cause one lapse in judgment and lead to a huge mistake. Don't be that guy, be the guy with Testicular Fortitude.

5. Find a couple of other quitters and exchange numbers with them, if you need another please PM me and let's do this.

6. Remember that you are an addict, 100 days is a milestone not a goal; the goal is a lifetime being free from the nic bitch. Get pissed off at big tobacco and the dangers they put you in.

7. Remember that you are the one who caused you to be an addict, so don't let anger get outside of your control. It is no one else's fault that you got here. Your family will only support you if you are not an asshole.

P

[B-loMatt]

You are winning! QLF with you all day. Work your quit today.

[FkSkoal]

Thanks all you BMFs for the support! Thank god for this site.

[MonsterMedic]

Welcome to the best decision you've made.

Getting nicotine out of your life is a tough battle but it's so worth it.

Take your quit one day at a time and post roll to promise you won't use nicotine for that day.

This forum is only as helpful as you allow it to be. Get involved and get connected with quitters in your group, as well as some more experienced guys.

Glad to have you here and proud to be quit with you.

[B-loMatt]

What they ^^^ said! Read, read, read. All the knowledge is here for your taking. You have all the power bad ass! The KTC plan works, learn it, and live it! PM me if you need anything.

[30isEnuff]

Headaches and fog are normal, get a post on November board and someone will post you up (like me).

EDIT - nice roll call, but you gotta be doing this for you brother!

What Thumblewort said...
You are worth it, you know that?
It's gonna suck, until it doesn't.
Read all on this site. Twice.
One day at a time and your addict dipping brain will yield to what YOU want to do!! You can own this and win...ODAAT.
Glad you made it here. You're not alone.
Drink lots of water, avoid the booze for a long time, exercise, yell, run around the yard, eat candy, peanuts, whatever it takes to "NOT" put the poison in your mouth for Today! Tomorrow, you do it again. Welcome to the family.

[Thumblewort]

Headaches and fog are normal, get a post on November board and someone will post you up (like me).

EDIT - nice roll call, but you gotta be doing this for you brother!

[FkSkoal]

Thank you, all. I think I need a doctorate to post roll lol.

Headaches eased up today. But I started grinding my teeth at night. Ugh.

[Air Force ADDICT]

Welcome to the family man.