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Offline CoachDoc

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2014, 02:08:00 PM »
Someties I feel like my throat is achey, or I feel like I might have some pain when I swallow and I think, "Is this cancer? Has all the dipping I did caught up to me?" As a health care professional - I'm an RN, former Corpsman specialized in aerospace medicine and combat medicine - I know the risks and I ignored them for a long time.

Yesterday I received a patient and before I went to see him I was already dreading it based on the report I received. They said that he had not been seen since August of 2013 when he had gone in for a lump on the underside of his tongue and had been told then that it was suspicious and that he needed to go to the ENT specialist and have it checked out. Night before last he had come back to the ER stating that he had terrible pain and trouble swallowing and breathing. The record went on to clarify that the pt communicated this in writing as the pt was not able to speak clearly enough for the physician to understand what he was saying.

I went in to see the pt. Rarely is a man who is 6 feet tall supposed to weigh 116 pounds. I introduced myself and had trouble keeping eye contact - my eyes kept wandering to the jaw that looked 3 times its normal size and the masses on the left side of his neck. He nodded in response to my introduction and listened quietly as I explained my role as a care manager. When I finally began asking him the questions of my assessment, he tried to speak. I don't know what disturbed me more, the gutteral and garbled sounds he produced in an attempt to respond, or the smell of rotted cancerous flesh that came out with each attempted word. His daughter was angry. She said, "No, he never followed up after last summer when they told him it looked like it coulod be cancer." She was obviously holding back her tears by staying angry and hardened against the pain of seeing her father in such a state.

Today I found out that the surgeons here aren't able to do surgery because the damage is so extensive that they cannot secure a safe airway for him for surgery - even with a tracheostomy. At this point they say the destruction of his lower jaw is almost complete, the tongue is necrotic, the muscles for swallowing are hardened and essentially non-functional. We have begun looking for surgical specialists in the area willing to take on such a high risk patient. And we treat his pain as best we can.
He smoked and chewed until 5 months ago. for tha past 40 years. He's 56. He looks 86.

Sometimes I still wake up afraid that I have already done too much damage to myslef and that this could still end up being me. It could. But I know that by quitting, I have improved my chances significantly. All the crap I went through during the SUCK, all the dealing with cravings and the rage, it was all worth every second of it in order to help reduce the chances I would end up like this fellow I now get to assist in planning for the remainder of his life.

Ironically, it was just a little over a year ago that I had a similar experience at a different hospital with a different patient. That is actually over in the Words of Wisdom section...

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2013, 04:04:00 PM »
My life is full of school loans, stress, work, deadlines, car breaking down, not getting the stuff I ordered on-line almost 2 1/2 weeks ago, kids with sports, etc..Guess what??? I'm still here n QUIT. Almost 1,000 days matter of fact.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2013, 03:19:00 PM »
Hahaha! Yea no ring finance troubles for me.


Maryland sucks. Maryland alone would make some of these weak children in my group who quit probably quit much sooner.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2013, 03:17:00 PM »
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I am losing my job. Am completely in over my hea din debt due to school loans. I live in expensive ass Maryland.


I didn't quit my quit. Fucking pussies.
Hell, I thought you were quoting me for a minute...well, except for the school loans....my debts because of an ex-wife...
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2013, 03:13:00 PM »
I am losing my job. Am completely in over my hea din debt due to school loans. I live in expensive ass Maryland.


I didn't quit my quit. Fucking pussies.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »
Exactly! Tell those excuses to someone who cares. Tell the excuses to the doctors as they confirm the "suspicious" spot on your cheek and proceed to remove your tounge and jaw. Tell your wife and kids as you destroy their lives with grief that while you love them, you don't love them as much as you love nicotine. Tell your whole family that you are willing to gamble their happiness and your life that all that "cancer talk" is just a bunch of hooey.

Do that stuff...or quit. Simple choice.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2013, 02:56:00 PM »
Thanks Doc. Have you come across any stress or hardship that dip helped with? I didn't think so. Don't be lame, fuckos, just quit.
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2013, 02:53:00 PM »
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: CoachDoc
OK, I've had it with all the lame-assed excuses for caving!  I'm stressed....whaaaa fucking whaaaa!  Who the hell isn't stressed?

To come in here saying how this was going on and this job problem or that bill wasn't getting paid, or this person was sick and died.....BS!

It's all BS....all nothing but excuses and poor choices.  There is no excuse.  NONE!  Does that mean you aren't welcome back?  Does that mean you can't continue to be a quitter?  NO....what it means is stop trying to justify the fact YOU chose to put that crap back in your mouth...Face the fact that you lied to us when you promised to remain quit.  Own up to the fact that you put more value in that little rush from nicotine than you put on your word, your health or your integrity.

Have A nice day.
Thanks DOC!!! I feel like my quit is being shit on A LOT! Either get busy quitting or get busy dying.
Your right on doc. It's something to see all these individuals come on, write a page of lies and then hit the rode. I understand it's hard, but I just know if i can do it anyone can. I'm glad to be quit with you doc and you kk.
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2013, 02:24:00 PM »
Quote from: CoachDoc
OK, I've had it with all the lame-assed excuses for caving! I'm stressed....whaaaa fucking whaaaa! Who the hell isn't stressed?

To come in here saying how this was going on and this job problem or that bill wasn't getting paid, or this person was sick and died.....BS!

It's all BS....all nothing but excuses and poor choices. There is no excuse. NONE! Does that mean you aren't welcome back? Does that mean you can't continue to be a quitter? NO....what it means is stop trying to justify the fact YOU chose to put that crap back in your mouth...Face the fact that you lied to us when you promised to remain quit. Own up to the fact that you put more value in that little rush from nicotine than you put on your word, your health or your integrity.

Have A nice day.
Thanks DOC!!! I feel like my quit is being shit on A LOT! Either get busy quitting or get busy dying.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2013, 01:40:00 PM »
OK, I've had it with all the lame-assed excuses for caving! I'm stressed....whaaaa fucking whaaaa! Who the hell isn't stressed?

To come in here saying how this was going on and this job problem or that bill wasn't getting paid, or this person was sick and died.....BS!

It's all BS....all nothing but excuses and poor choices. There is no excuse. NONE! Does that mean you aren't welcome back? Does that mean you can't continue to be a quitter? NO....what it means is stop trying to justify the fact YOU chose to put that crap back in your mouth...Face the fact that you lied to us when you promised to remain quit. Own up to the fact that you put more value in that little rush from nicotine than you put on your word, your health or your integrity.

Have A nice day.
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2013, 01:04:00 PM »
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Realizing there are two things most fresh quitters really seem to have a problem with:

1. Committing to posting roll every morning - early
2. Actually writing a quit plan

I've seen the arguements against posting roll - I'm not trading one addiction for another, I've given my word once, that should be good enough, I'm too busy, I just get bumped so I come in later and do it, etc. etc. etc.

I've not really seen nearly as many reasons for not writing a plan, though.  Actually, I think more people SAY they have a plan, but really never took time to develop it.  For what it's worth, the plan is something that should be continuously modified throughout your quit...the same things you might have needed in the beginning, you might not ned as your quit progresses...

So, in order to keep mine an ACTIVE QUIT PLAN, I am posting it here, and will bump it whenever I modify it.  Maybe others will find some use in reading it from time to time as well.



MY ACTIVE QUIT PLAN
When the craving starts:

1. Identify what trigger is causing me to crave – ex-wife, money, work, etc. Remind myself how dipping made the situation BETTER in the past

2. Remove myself from the situation, if at all possible. DO NOT head to a c-store, gas station, or other store that sells tobacco products

3. Remind myself of what day I listed on my roll post that morning, remembering that my posting roll is my promise to each and every brother/sister to not use for that day

4. Log on to KTC and engage in chat, posting, reading all of my comments regarding retreads and cavers...understand that I WILL BE AMONG THOSE IF I CAVE

5. Remember all of the cavers that came and went and the way their failure made me feel, especially the oneÂ’s I respected. Their failure let me down and made me sometimes doubt my ability to succeed with my quit. I DO NOT want to do that to my brothers.

6. Remember how it felt when my oldest of four sons used to say, “My dad does drugs.” Even though he meant nicotine, it still made me feel very ashamed.

7. If still craving, use Smokey Mountain fake.

8. If still craving or fake unavailable, call/text:
Clampy
NOLAQ
CoachMorris
BTDogboy
Tabasco
Allec
Greg5280
TruckerRick
Tarpon17
Capt Jack Sparrow
rogjames
DemonBeGone
Trig
David1964
TortillaJesus
amgdenny
Coach Steve
Moondawggy
RWB
CMH17
mcarmo44
my brother
my aunt
my sons
my significant other
and tell them that I am in need of support to not dip.  I cannot move on to step 9 until I have reached every one of the people on this list.

9. If this doesnÂ’t work, then pull out the contract to quit, sign it and then have sons and significant other sign it.

10. If all this fails, then I MUST accept that I will die a miserable, lonely, painful death due likely to cancer and all because I valued a 5 minute buzz more than everything listed above. Have mercy upon my twisted, sick soul.
CoachDoc, Nothing is better than having fresh quitter information. I am on day 24 and will be adding a new tool to my quit -AN ACTIVE QUIT PLAN. Thanks for bumping this thread.
Glad to help. If you need a number - any of you - all ya have to do is ask and it's yours.

A quit plan is ALWAYS a strong idea...write it, update it frequently, and LIVE it!
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2013, 03:29:00 PM »
Quote from: CoachDoc
Realizing there are two things most fresh quitters really seem to have a problem with:

1. Committing to posting roll every morning - early
2. Actually writing a quit plan

I've seen the arguements against posting roll - I'm not trading one addiction for another, I've given my word once, that should be good enough, I'm too busy, I just get bumped so I come in later and do it, etc. etc. etc.

I've not really seen nearly as many reasons for not writing a plan, though.  Actually, I think more people SAY they have a plan, but really never took time to develop it.  For what it's worth, the plan is something that should be continuously modified throughout your quit...the same things you might have needed in the beginning, you might not ned as your quit progresses...

So, in order to keep mine an ACTIVE QUIT PLAN, I am posting it here, and will bump it whenever I modify it.  Maybe others will find some use in reading it from time to time as well.



MY ACTIVE QUIT PLAN
When the craving starts:

1. Identify what trigger is causing me to crave – ex-wife, money, work, etc. Remind myself how dipping made the situation BETTER in the past

2. Remove myself from the situation, if at all possible. DO NOT head to a c-store, gas station, or other store that sells tobacco products

3. Remind myself of what day I listed on my roll post that morning, remembering that my posting roll is my promise to each and every brother/sister to not use for that day

4. Log on to KTC and engage in chat, posting, reading all of my comments regarding retreads and cavers...understand that I WILL BE AMONG THOSE IF I CAVE

5. Remember all of the cavers that came and went and the way their failure made me feel, especially the oneÂ’s I respected. Their failure let me down and made me sometimes doubt my ability to succeed with my quit. I DO NOT want to do that to my brothers.

6. Remember how it felt when my oldest of four sons used to say, “My dad does drugs.” Even though he meant nicotine, it still made me feel very ashamed.

7. If still craving, use Smokey Mountain fake.

8. If still craving or fake unavailable, call/text:
Clampy
NOLAQ
CoachMorris
BTDogboy
Tabasco
Allec
Greg5280
TruckerRick
Tarpon17
Capt Jack Sparrow
rogjames
DemonBeGone
Trig
David1964
TortillaJesus
amgdenny
Coach Steve
Moondawggy
RWB
CMH17
mcarmo44
my brother
my aunt
my sons
my significant other
and tell them that I am in need of support to not dip.  I cannot move on to step 9 until I have reached every one of the people on this list.

9. If this doesnÂ’t work, then pull out the contract to quit, sign it and then have sons and significant other sign it.

10. If all this fails, then I MUST accept that I will die a miserable, lonely, painful death due likely to cancer and all because I valued a 5 minute buzz more than everything listed above. Have mercy upon my twisted, sick soul.
CoachDoc, Nothing is better than having fresh quitter information. I am on day 24 and will be adding a new tool to my quit -AN ACTIVE QUIT PLAN. Thanks for bumping this thread.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2013, 09:45:00 AM »
Thanks for bumping this to the top coach truly inspirational!!!

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2013, 09:00:00 AM »
Every so often, those of us that have been here a while sometimes re-post and bump our original intro back to the top. Maybe it's an ego stroke, maybe it's because we think we have learned a thing or two over the time we've been here on KTC...

I post it now for those of you who wonder how you are going to make it through the "stressful times" without a dip.

It isn't about the stress you face...it's about the choices YOU make in dealing with it. Heck, if I didn't throw a dip in after going through a separation, a divorce, only getting my kids every other weekend, changing jobs, moving, paying 56% of my income to an ex-wife, and now being laid off.....

You should get the picture...You will remain DIP-FREE as long as YOU WANT TO. And we'll be right here to support you in those times where you might falter on your own...

Stay True. Stay Strong. Stay QUIT.
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2013, 09:51:00 AM »
I'm re-posting this because, from what I've seen in the roll posts, I think it might be helpful for some of the February and March class to see. Hell, it'll be good for all to see.

CoachDoc Day 1050


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230 days ago I threw out all my cans of Cope and started down this road of quit.  It hasn't been an easy trek, but it is one that is well worth the time and effort put into it.  There have been some rough times during this journey, most which I could have certainly done something about to lessen how tough they were.  What I am referring to is getting away from posting roll every day.

In my 230 days I've seen some of the most BAMF Quitters go back to a babbling fucking idiot as they cave and return to the fog-filled first few days of a baby-bird quit.  Many of the vets that have caved give one reason as their primary punch in the gut - they stopped posting roll every day, they lost sight of how important this keystone event is to their quit.

I've seen it over and over....from vets, as well as new quitters...I've raked countless quitters over the coals for being spotty (at best) roll posters.  All that being said, it didn't stop me from falling into the same trap...

10 weeks ago, I commenced a new single life, living in an apartment, having my kids every other weekend, coaching football and working....a very busy, hectic life...and one full of changes and adjustments to be made.  I convinced myself that I really didn't have the time to post roll every morning...it took too much.  I had plenty of time to chase after new women (I mean, I was single again, right?) but not to post roll.  Then this one woman started talking to me quite a bit and she was getting pretty intense....yeah, the Nic Bitch started whispering in my ear...a lot.  Telling me how, I'd been quit all this time, I'd really quit just to try and save my marriage, how since I wasn't postig roll every day I could get away with it and nobody would ever know...hell, I didn't even really need to go back to KTC...

I knew these were the games of the Nic Bitch...I'd seen them all before...seen them bring down proud quitters in the past.  Thank God for the values the Marine Corps instilled in this ex Navy Corpsman...integrity is everything...I made a promise to each and every one of my former, current and future quit brothers and sisters that I would not cave and that I would be there for them.  I did not cave...coming back around to re-prioritizing this site and roll posting took a bit longer, but I am back.

I know this was a long drawn out story in order to get a very simple statement across...but QUITTING is never as simple as you think it is...not on day #1, not on day #101, and cetainly not on day #230, especially if you have failed to continue doing what makes this site so successful - POST ROLL DAILY.

For those of you who might find yourself in this boat, or those of you just joining our fine brotherhood and feel you need numbers, all you have to do is ask and mine are yours.  I am here to quit, but I am also here to help YOU quit - and stay quit.  Thanks to all my June brothers that have taken the time to text me asking where the fuck I was and reminding me what this is all about.

CoachDoc, Day 230
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