First Post

[Diesel2112]

Diesel, I did consider posting the days I log in just to get you and a few others off my back and get you guys back focused on the real point... Our ongoing Quit Journeys. However, I noticed that when people don't consistently post role they are listed under cavers and gheys. Basically reinforces your point of log in every day. Which we've already beat to a pulp. I have read a lot on this site and have even shared the site with my wife. (She quickly realized what I'd been up to in the past when she read "The top 100 benefits of quitting dip") There is a lot of valuable info on the site and in the forum discussions.

Don't do it to "get us off your back", do it for yourself...do it because it WORKS. If you've read a lot on this site, you should know that.

Seems like you are on here a lot, heck you've even shown your wife the site. Why not just post your promise every day to not use nicotine?

You've made it 21 days nic free why not soak up everything the site has to offer and promise you will make it through the day to #22?

It will only take a few seconds, literally.

[Lifes2short]

Diesel, I did consider posting the days I log in just to get you and a few others off my back and get you guys back focused on the real point... Our ongoing Quit Journeys. However, I noticed that when people don't consistently post role they are listed under cavers and gheys. Basically reinforces your point of log in every day. Which we've already beat to a pulp. I have read a lot on this site and have even shared the site with my wife. (She quickly realized what I'd been up to in the past when she read "The top 100 benefits of quitting dip") There is a lot of valuable info on the site and in the forum discussions.

[Diesel2112]

I do appreciate the concern.  I'm still here and still quit.  There is no rage here Wt.  I was clear and straight forward with everyone from the very beginning.  My stance hasn't changed.  If anything, my love / hate relationship with Diesel has had me checking my intro more than I had expected.  20 days quit today, a lifetime to go.  Had an enjoyable weekend, even played 18 holes of golf today with no nip... Not even the fake stuff.

If your checking you intro why not post roll while you're here?

I haven't taken the time to read your intro, because, quite frankly, I am listening to Gary Puckett perform "woman, woman" with the man who wrote the song on the you tubes. It's pretty awesome. In any event, why aren't you posting roll call? If you're pissed at Diesel for trying to save your life and don't want to follow the foundation of this site, feel free to move along.

Man I hope you are wrong WT.

I see he is on here RIGHT NOW. He is probably reading and reading like every person on day 20 did and should...IT FUCKING HELPS. I remember.

Don't be stubborn and NOT post roll because of me. This isn't a pissing match, it's a QUITTING match and we are all on the same team. Join our team bro. Drink the Kool Aid to the fullest, don't sip it and run. We didn't spike it. It's good shit. It could save your life.

[G]

I do appreciate the concern.  I'm still here and still quit.  There is no rage here Wt.  I was clear and straight forward with everyone from the very beginning.  My stance hasn't changed.  If anything, my love / hate relationship with Diesel has had me checking my intro more than I had expected.  20 days quit today, a lifetime to go.  Had an enjoyable weekend, even played 18 holes of golf today with no nip... Not even the fake stuff.

If your checking you intro why not post roll while you're here?

I haven't taken the time to read your intro, because, quite frankly, I am listening to Gary Puckett perform "woman, woman" with the man who wrote the song on the you tubes. It's pretty awesome. In any event, why aren't you posting roll call? If you're pissed at Diesel for trying to save your life and don't want to follow the foundation of this site, feel free to move along.

[Wt57]

I do appreciate the concern.  I'm still here and still quit.  There is no rage here Wt.  I was clear and straight forward with everyone from the very beginning.  My stance hasn't changed.  If anything, my love / hate relationship with Diesel has had me checking my intro more than I had expected.  20 days quit today, a lifetime to go.  Had an enjoyable weekend, even played 18 holes of golf today with no nip... Not even the fake stuff.

If your checking you intro why not post roll while you're here?

I'm starting to think I smell troll.

[Diesel2112]

I do appreciate the concern. I'm still here and still quit. There is no rage here Wt. I was clear and straight forward with everyone from the very beginning. My stance hasn't changed. If anything, my love / hate relationship with Diesel has had me checking my intro more than I had expected. 20 days quit today, a lifetime to go. Had an enjoyable weekend, even played 18 holes of golf today with no nip... Not even the fake stuff.

If your checking you intro why not post roll while you're here?

[Lifes2short]

I do appreciate the concern. I'm still here and still quit. There is no rage here Wt. I was clear and straight forward with everyone from the very beginning. My stance hasn't changed. If anything, my love / hate relationship with Diesel has had me checking my intro more than I had expected. 20 days quit today, a lifetime to go. Had an enjoyable weekend, even played 18 holes of golf today with no nip... Not even the fake stuff.

[Wt57]

I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths

I'm really glad that you have set such a good example for your daughter by keeping a nice clean mouth. For me my language may be less than clean and for nearly 40 years I set a wonderful example of cleanliness by having a mouth full of oozing brown saliva. You can set back and play the "holier than thou" attitude but we are all exactly the same in one respect, we are all addicts and always will be. Now get down off your high horse and accept the help that is being offered. Sure some of us are a little rough around the edges but we truly care about each other. Sometimes we care too much and get hurt by less than sincere dippers who think they know better. I suggest you spend some serious time reading quitters HOF stories and see just how similar your addict activities are to so many of us. Your rage should be passing soon. Decide if you want help or not, we know you need it.

[Diesel2112]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I.  I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot.  Glad your quit 320+ days.  Keep it up!  I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


:rustaf1:

Priceless thread...

I have to agree with Diesel and everyone else who has posted in favor of posting everyday. Those are the rules it affects everyone here when someone wants to do whatever the hell they please. I am new into my quit I disliked seeing Lifes posts. Doing whatever the hell we wanted got most of us here. If we gave a shit we wouldnt have put that shit in our mouths. Life you have been given like Diesel said hard hammers and soft hammers and you still dont get it if you dont like the rules here dont log on its that simple.

I personally have leaned on this site. My brothers/sisters were here for me when I was craving and the support I got was far better than getting through it on my own. I got hammers too but I needed them it never occured to me that my word selection was leaving the door cracked to let the NIC Bitch back in. I never put it together before that I was an addict even though I work in the health care industry. With the help of the vets and my quit group I was able to see it. This "cavalier attitude" you are sporting is bad for you and us. If the small rules are not followed it leaves an opening for the next YAHOO with the best way to quit to plan to come in here and do whatever the hell they want. Next thing you know weekend dippers and recreational users will be allowed to post roll. The downward spiral is called "Normalization of Deviance" and if you look that word up you will see what all it has affected. It brought down the space shuttle basically porked NASA in the ass... who would have thought one lil O ring... You LIFE are acting like an O RING

To me ROLL is an honor it tells me and everyone that I beat yesterday and I quit today.

BTW the time you took defending your position you could have posted a month of roll and not pissed anyone off.

It's one simple rule...post your commitment not to use nicotine for that day. It takes about 2 freaking minutes.

I also don't buy "I don't want to think about it first thing in the morning".

You're gonna think about it at some point during the day, especially in the beginning. Might as well wake up and smack the bitch in the face every morning by posting a promise you are not going to use nicotine in any form.

The goal is not to USE, not to not THINK about it. You're an addict. For 17 years you used that crap. Good luck not even THINKING about it.

Post roll and let's do this shit!!!!

Even though I'm a classless asshole, if you post role I will support you to no end. So will everyone else on this site. I see it on a daily basis.

Whatever happened here? Is Life posting? Will Life stay quit? Stay tuned....Like sands through the hourglass, these are the Days of our Quit :-)

Posting isn't logical. I'm sure he is quit without a thought of nicotine.

In all honesty I hoped he would post roll and the hatchet could be burried. A lot of different people reached out to him in many different ways, but the message was the same but he chose to ignore it.

I wouldn't doubt if someone on here is in touch with him helping him out, because there's some great people on here. If so I bet they are trying to get him to post roll. Would love to see him comeback and do it the right way.

[CleanFuel]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I.  I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot.  Glad your quit 320+ days.  Keep it up!  I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


:rustaf1:

Priceless thread...

I have to agree with Diesel and everyone else who has posted in favor of posting everyday. Those are the rules it affects everyone here when someone wants to do whatever the hell they please. I am new into my quit I disliked seeing Lifes posts. Doing whatever the hell we wanted got most of us here. If we gave a shit we wouldnt have put that shit in our mouths. Life you have been given like Diesel said hard hammers and soft hammers and you still dont get it if you dont like the rules here dont log on its that simple.

I personally have leaned on this site. My brothers/sisters were here for me when I was craving and the support I got was far better than getting through it on my own. I got hammers too but I needed them it never occured to me that my word selection was leaving the door cracked to let the NIC Bitch back in. I never put it together before that I was an addict even though I work in the health care industry. With the help of the vets and my quit group I was able to see it. This "cavalier attitude" you are sporting is bad for you and us. If the small rules are not followed it leaves an opening for the next YAHOO with the best way to quit to plan to come in here and do whatever the hell they want. Next thing you know weekend dippers and recreational users will be allowed to post roll. The downward spiral is called "Normalization of Deviance" and if you look that word up you will see what all it has affected. It brought down the space shuttle basically porked NASA in the ass... who would have thought one lil O ring... You LIFE are acting like an O RING

To me ROLL is an honor it tells me and everyone that I beat yesterday and I quit today.

BTW the time you took defending your position you could have posted a month of roll and not pissed anyone off.

It's one simple rule...post your commitment not to use nicotine for that day. It takes about 2 freaking minutes.

I also don't buy "I don't want to think about it first thing in the morning".

You're gonna think about it at some point during the day, especially in the beginning. Might as well wake up and smack the bitch in the face every morning by posting a promise you are not going to use nicotine in any form.

The goal is not to USE, not to not THINK about it. You're an addict. For 17 years you used that crap. Good luck not even THINKING about it.

Post roll and let's do this shit!!!!

Even though I'm a classless asshole, if you post role I will support you to no end. So will everyone else on this site. I see it on a daily basis.

Whatever happened here? Is Life posting? Will Life stay quit? Stay tuned....Like sands through the hourglass, these are the Days of our Quit :-)

[Mcbeevee]

Lifes2short, One day you will realize that all of your current reasoning to justify your position is just "addict talk". That day will come either when you are in surgery recovery swearing to never use tobacco again or when you decide to follow the protocol of this site and use the encouragement of the members with KTC.

I often ask myself what exactly "worked" about this site that nothing else ever did work that I tried on my own. Why did I constantly lie and deceive my wife, sons, and close firends to enable me to get my nicotine fix at all costs? Why would I think of dip as necessary to life as breathing in everything I did? Why would every daily decision I made involve how dip could be involved and could I actually make it until I got that dip? This is a very, very strong drug you are fighting!

What makes me want to honor my daily word to "Quit" to a lot of strangers that I only know through KTC? Because they understand who and what I am and want to give me the support to exceed in quitting nicotine. I am not sure what works about this site but that it does work!

[Diesel2112]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I.  I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot.  Glad your quit 320+ days.  Keep it up!  I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


:rustaf1:

Priceless thread...

I have to agree with Diesel and everyone else who has posted in favor of posting everyday. Those are the rules it affects everyone here when someone wants to do whatever the hell they please. I am new into my quit I disliked seeing Lifes posts. Doing whatever the hell we wanted got most of us here. If we gave a shit we wouldnt have put that shit in our mouths. Life you have been given like Diesel said hard hammers and soft hammers and you still dont get it if you dont like the rules here dont log on its that simple.

I personally have leaned on this site. My brothers/sisters were here for me when I was craving and the support I got was far better than getting through it on my own. I got hammers too but I needed them it never occured to me that my word selection was leaving the door cracked to let the NIC Bitch back in. I never put it together before that I was an addict even though I work in the health care industry. With the help of the vets and my quit group I was able to see it. This "cavalier attitude" you are sporting is bad for you and us. If the small rules are not followed it leaves an opening for the next YAHOO with the best way to quit to plan to come in here and do whatever the hell they want. Next thing you know weekend dippers and recreational users will be allowed to post roll. The downward spiral is called "Normalization of Deviance" and if you look that word up you will see what all it has affected. It brought down the space shuttle basically porked NASA in the ass... who would have thought one lil O ring... You LIFE are acting like an O RING

To me ROLL is an honor it tells me and everyone that I beat yesterday and I quit today.

BTW the time you took defending your position you could have posted a month of roll and not pissed anyone off.

It's one simple rule...post your commitment not to use nicotine for that day. It takes about 2 freaking minutes.

I also don't buy "I don't want to think about it first thing in the morning".

You're gonna think about it at some point during the day, especially in the beginning. Might as well wake up and smack the bitch in the face every morning by posting a promise you are not going to use nicotine in any form.

The goal is not to USE, not to not THINK about it. You're an addict. For 17 years you used that crap. Good luck not even THINKING about it.

Post roll and let's do this shit!!!!

Even though I'm a classless asshole, if you post role I will support you to no end. So will everyone else on this site. I see it on a daily basis.

[traumagnet]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I.  I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot.  Glad your quit 320+ days.  Keep it up!  I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


:rustaf1:

Priceless thread...

I have to agree with Diesel and everyone else who has posted in favor of posting everyday. Those are the rules it affects everyone here when someone wants to do whatever the hell they please. I am new into my quit I disliked seeing Lifes posts. Doing whatever the hell we wanted got most of us here. If we gave a shit we wouldnt have put that shit in our mouths. Life you have been given like Diesel said hard hammers and soft hammers and you still dont get it if you dont like the rules here dont log on its that simple.

I personally have leaned on this site. My brothers/sisters were here for me when I was craving and the support I got was far better than getting through it on my own. I got hammers too but I needed them it never occured to me that my word selection was leaving the door cracked to let the NIC Bitch back in. I never put it together before that I was an addict even though I work in the health care industry. With the help of the vets and my quit group I was able to see it. This "cavalier attitude" you are sporting is bad for you and us. If the small rules are not followed it leaves an opening for the next YAHOO with the best way to quit to plan to come in here and do whatever the hell they want. Next thing you know weekend dippers and recreational users will be allowed to post roll. The downward spiral is called "Normalization of Deviance" and if you look that word up you will see what all it has affected. It brought down the space shuttle basically porked NASA in the ass... who would have thought one lil O ring... You LIFE are acting like an O RING

To me ROLL is an honor it tells me and everyone that I beat yesterday and I quit today.

BTW the time you took defending your position you could have posted a month of roll and not pissed anyone off.

[Radman]

All other discussions aside, and getting back to the point... 17 days quit.

What say we make that 18?

[CleanFuel]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I.  I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot.  Glad your quit 320+ days.  Keep it up!  I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


:rustaf1:

Priceless thread...