First Post

[Dlee3]

Somebody very smart (I believe it was Diesel, in fact, but it might have been Evil_Won) told me early on to take from this site those things that help you and leave the rest. Over the past 108 days, I have slightly altered that idea. I've had disagreements with Diesel, parputt, 30isenuff, Evil, and I'm sure there are more, but in every single one, I was the newbie. I was the one still learning how to quit.

Diesel told me early on to take what helps you from this site and leave and/or ignore the rest. I'd like to alter that on your behalf and I'm not sure Diesel would disagree. Take what helps you, but at least CONSIDER the rest. Some guys seem to come and go without considering that somebody that has been curled up in a fetal position in Addictland at day 20 (when day 20 was 200 days ago) might know a little something about quitting. I've always listened when they piss me off. It doesn't make me less of a man; it makes me a better quitter.

I guarantee you this: some of these guys will piss you off, but they're doing it to help you put nicotine in its rightful place. They don't know you; they know her. Every single one of these guys wants you and me to stay quit.

I kinda like this place, for that reason alone.

[Diesel2112]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I. I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot. Glad your quit 320+ days. Keep it up! I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

I recently read a study that stated that people of high intellect often use swear words to drive their points across. I don't remember who wrote it but he was one smart mother fucker.

And I'll talk to you the way I talk to my 8 year old daughter..."Honey, leave the room and go play with your barbies now, the adults are talking."


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[Lifes2short]

Diesel your entitled to your own opinion, as am I. I guess I'll have to talk to you the way I would talk to my daughter... Daddy doesn't like potty mouths, it makes the most intelligent person sound like an idiot. Glad your quit 320+ days. Keep it up! I will continue MY journey in the best way I see fit.

[Diesel2112]

One thing is for sure.  Diesel and I will never see eye to eye, and I'm okay with that.  If you look back through this thread, I've never "shit on your floor" as you so uneloquently put it.  Simply said that I won't be posting role everyday as that means I am forcing myself to think about a dip to start each day.  Diesel has proven to me that he is a very classless guy.  As for the others that have posted, I appreciate your feedback and encouragement.  Glad to be quit with you!

I this isn't shitting on out floor, I'm not sure what is...

"I'm not knocking those who wish to post daily, I'm just not convinced its the most logical process. [Really, your not knocking the process eh. Just saying it's not logical, ummm okay] One could just as easily post their daily commitment and not live up to it... No one would know [Why would anybody do that??? You think we are all liars here with no integrity and our word means nothing? Talk about a slap in the face!].... For those that don't like my reasoning, I do understand. But there isn't any proof to show that posting daily makes you any better at staying quit.[ISN"T ANY PROOF??? I'm fucking proof that it works and their are about 16,000 other mother fuckers on here who will tell you the same]."

This should anger every mother fucker who posts roll on this site, but I'm the bad guy. I don't give a fuck. I've been through hell and back quitting this shit. I can take it.

You're focused on my because I'm more abrasive or "classless" as you put it.

But everyone else is saying the same thing as I am. It's not like I'm on an island here. I'm just rubbing you the wrong way. Other guys say basically the same but put it in a nicer package and you really don't acknowledge them, just thank them for not being mean about it.

You are being clonked over the head by my mean hammer and by nicer hammers, but they are all saying the same thing.

You are just choosing not to listen, yet I am proving myself to be classless?

You're also pipe dreaming if you think that by not posting roll first thing in the morning you're mind will not be thinking about dip. You're an addict. Addicts never forget what they once were. EVER.



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[SirDerek]

One thing is for sure. Diesel and I will never see eye to eye, and I'm okay with that. If you look back through this thread, I've never "shit on your floor" as you so uneloquently put it. Simply said that I won't be posting role everyday as that means I am forcing myself to think about a dip to start each day. Diesel has proven to me that he is a very classless guy. As for the others that have posted, I appreciate your feedback and encouragement. Glad to be quit with you!

I am gonna warn you again, that as an addict you may want that daily post because without it, there is no word to honor, and when there comes a hard time, what and who are you going to fall back on before slipping back to the nic bitch for another day 1.

it is your decision...but alot of us here have seen quite a bit, and by not posting daily, the door is left wide open, when all we want is for it to be slammed shut, bricked over, never to be passed through again

[Lifes2short]

One thing is for sure. Diesel and I will never see eye to eye, and I'm okay with that. If you look back through this thread, I've never "shit on your floor" as you so uneloquently put it. Simply said that I won't be posting role everyday as that means I am forcing myself to think about a dip to start each day. Diesel has proven to me that he is a very classless guy. As for the others that have posted, I appreciate your feedback and encouragement. Glad to be quit with you!

[Diesel2112]

Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.

Did you really READ what wastepanel and Rad wrote?

I can comment on your intro any fucking time I want.

When you piss all over the foundation this site is founded on, question the honesty and integrity of our WORD, and act as if your way is better than ours, I WILL NOT sit idly by. Not my style.

I'm 20 grit sandpaper.

Sorry.

I'll post with Rad, waste and diesel "everyday" they can all give your 17 days some good advise! If you don't like it have it your way, but don't be surprised if you fail. These guys know how hard quitting can get and what it takes to quit. You may succeed but by drinking the koolaid 100% your odds increase. Diesel is one bad ass quitter that I won't set back and watch be berated by some smarts ass newbie!

You all see why I don't post here other than roll? There is so much "my quit is better than your quick" it makes me ill. I don't give a fuck what works for you, keep it up and stay quit. Those who don't like it can fuck off.

Go pack sand, tool box.

So you are ok with not posting roll? The ONE thing that you do.

Is there really "so much of it"? Of the THOUSANDS of posts we offer up a very small percentage of them are like this, yet you act like its the norm.

Sorry but when a newbie comes in here announcing he isn't going to post roll, doesn't see the point of it, says that those who do post could be lieing, etc...that does not sit well with me, and apparently others either.

WT, Wedge, and countless others literally saved my ass as I was in the corner in the fetal posistion rocking back and forth with my thumb in my mouth. I try to pay forward the same way they did for me.

Not posting roll never was an option.

My quit is no better than yours tool bag and I'm happy you're still quit.

I just get upset when people come into our house and shit on the floor. I believe out of my close to 1,000 posts 98% have been encouraging and positive. Don't try and paint me as someone who goes around getting in pissing matches about who's quit it better.

Its simply not true.

[Tool shed]

Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.

Did you really READ what wastepanel and Rad wrote?

I can comment on your intro any fucking time I want.

When you piss all over the foundation this site is founded on, question the honesty and integrity of our WORD, and act as if your way is better than ours, I WILL NOT sit idly by. Not my style.

I'm 20 grit sandpaper.

Sorry.

I'll post with Rad, waste and diesel "everyday" they can all give your 17 days some good advise! If you don't like it have it your way, but don't be surprised if you fail. These guys know how hard quitting can get and what it takes to quit. You may succeed but by drinking the koolaid 100% your odds increase. Diesel is one bad ass quitter that I won't set back and watch be berated by some smarts ass newbie!

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[srans]

Thanks for being in my corner, wastepanel, diesel, wt, and radman when I quit. Enough said on this intro.

[Wt57]

Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.

Did you really READ what wastepanel and Rad wrote?

I can comment on your intro any fucking time I want.

When you piss all over the foundation this site is founded on, question the honesty and integrity of our WORD, and act as if your way is better than ours, I WILL NOT sit idly by. Not my style.

I'm 20 grit sandpaper.

Sorry.

I'll post with Rad, waste and diesel "everyday" they can all give your 17 days some good advise! If you don't like it have it your way, but don't be surprised if you fail. These guys know how hard quitting can get and what it takes to quit. You may succeed but by drinking the koolaid 100% your odds increase. Diesel is one bad ass quitter that I won't set back and watch be berated by some smarts ass newbie!

[Diesel2112]

All other discussions aside, and getting back to the point... 17 days quit.

Nice. Just totally blow off what everyone has said.

You being 17 days quit is great and if your way is so gear why do you need us? Just keep doing what your doing. What can we do for you?

You've been offered some sage advice from some bad ass quitters (me not included) and you have refused to listen every step of the way.

Perhaps start your own sight,.

[wastepanel]

All other discussions aside, and getting back to the point... 17 days quit.

'worship'

See you at 18.

Check out this group. There's a ton of guys going through the same bullshit you are right now:

July 2013 HOF group

[Lifes2short]

All other discussions aside, and getting back to the point... 17 days quit.

[wastepanel]

Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.

You're welcome. Keep some quitters in your corner on the good days, then it's a lot easier to use them on the bad days. If you've already built some relationships, then you won't hesitate to reach out when the bad days come along. Just part of building a plan.

Rad, where is the best place to build relationships on this site?

HOF group roll call. I assume that is the answer you seek, yes?

Even if that weren't my answer, I believe one of the very few rules of this place is that we have to post roll before posting in any of the other forums.

Either way equals a roll post, which is the point we are agreeing on.

Yes. That is where the true bonds are formed. Bonding and sharing experiences with guys on the same road as you.

That's my point. Perhaps I get too fired up and dramatic, but it really is how I feel.

By not posting roll I dont think he will get the full support this site offers.

If shit really hits the fan who will he turn to?

In the quit groups is where you get the numbers, the encouragement, the relatable stories, etc...

Running to this site just when you hit a really tough spot does not do the runner nor the site justice.

These are all my opinions, mind you.

Like I said, being quit does require that you to work for it. You can do this. We can help.

I'm glad you're coming around. There's tons of guys that come in here spouting us the "new way" all the time. Most of the time, they fade away only to come back in the future. This site is built upon a simple mantra to stay quit:

Post roll
Keep your word.
Repeat.

Know what makes you successful and keep doing it. That's what the roll post signifies. You see, in early quits like yours it's about will power. Your thoughts are mainly on staying quit. But then things get better and it's easier to err on the side of not using. That's where the roll post comes in most handy: to take your thoughts there for one moment out of all the good and make you make the commitment to stay quit.

We don't know when the bad moments come so what does it hurt to take 30 seconds to say "I quit" in the morning, knowing that when push comes to shove, you've got friends that will drop everything they are doing to help you.

And I would trust diesel 8 days a week with my quit. We don't get this much quit pussyfooting around the issue. We plow right through the motherfucking mountain.

[Diesel2112]

Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.

You're welcome. Keep some quitters in your corner on the good days, then it's a lot easier to use them on the bad days. If you've already built some relationships, then you won't hesitate to reach out when the bad days come along. Just part of building a plan.

Rad, where is the best place to build relationships on this site?

HOF group roll call. I assume that is the answer you seek, yes?

Even if that weren't my answer, I believe one of the very few rules of this place is that we have to post roll before posting in any of the other forums.

Either way equals a roll post, which is the point we are agreeing on.

Yes. That is where the true bonds are formed. Bonding and sharing experiences with guys on the same road as you.

That's my point. Perhaps I get too fired up and dramatic, but it really is how I feel.

By not posting roll I dont think he will get the full support this site offers.

If shit really hits the fan who will he turn to?

In the quit groups is where you get the numbers, the encouragement, the relatable stories, etc...

Running to this site just when you hit a really tough spot does not do the runner nor the site justice.

These are all my opinions, mind you.