Author Topic: First Post  (Read 4142 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Radman

  • Quit Pro
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,688
  • Interests: Family and friends. Other than that, anything outdoors....motorcycling, shooting, hunting, fishing, racing.
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: Lifes2short
Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.
You're welcome. Keep some quitters in your corner on the good days, then it's a lot easier to use them on the bad days. If you've already built some relationships, then you won't hesitate to reach out when the bad days come along. Just part of building a plan.
Rad, where is the best place to build relationships on this site?
HOF group roll call. I assume that is the answer you seek, yes?

Even if that weren't my answer, I believe one of the very few rules of this place is that we have to post roll before posting in any of the other forums.

Either way equals a roll post, which is the point we are agreeing on.

Offline Diesel2112

  • Quitter
  • **
  • Posts: 4,847
  • Likes Given: 1
Re: First Post
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: Lifes2short
Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest.  It's greatly appreciated.  Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day.  Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro.  Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else.  "No hard feelings".  I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit.  For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time.  I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break.  This time I want it and will succeed.
You're welcome. Keep some quitters in your corner on the good days, then it's a lot easier to use them on the bad days. If you've already built some relationships, then you won't hesitate to reach out when the bad days come along. Just part of building a plan.
Rad, where is the best place to build relationships on this site?
Quit 06/04/12
HOF 9/11/12
2nd floor 12/20/12
3rd floor 03/30/13
4th floor 07/08/13
5th floor 10/16/13
6th floor 01/24/14
7th floor 05/04/14
8th floor 08/12/14
9th floor 10/20/14
Comma 02/28/15
11th floor 06/08/15
12th floor 09/16/15
13th floor 12/25/15
14th floor 04/03/16
15th floor 7/11/16
16th floor 10/20/16
17th floor 01/27/17
18th floor 05/08/17
19th floor 08/14/17
20th floor 11/27/17
21st floor 03/11/18

"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

Offline Diesel2112

  • Quitter
  • **
  • Posts: 4,847
  • Likes Given: 1
Re: First Post
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2013, 02:21:00 PM »
Quote from: Lifes2short
Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest. It's greatly appreciated. Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day. Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro. Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else. "No hard feelings". I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit. For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time. I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break. This time I want it and will succeed.
Did you really READ what wastepanel and Rad wrote?

I can comment on your intro any fucking time I want.

When you piss all over the foundation this site is founded on, question the honesty and integrity of our WORD, and act as if your way is better than ours, I WILL NOT sit idly by. Not my style.

I'm 20 grit sandpaper.

Sorry.
Quit 06/04/12
HOF 9/11/12
2nd floor 12/20/12
3rd floor 03/30/13
4th floor 07/08/13
5th floor 10/16/13
6th floor 01/24/14
7th floor 05/04/14
8th floor 08/12/14
9th floor 10/20/14
Comma 02/28/15
11th floor 06/08/15
12th floor 09/16/15
13th floor 12/25/15
14th floor 04/03/16
15th floor 7/11/16
16th floor 10/20/16
17th floor 01/27/17
18th floor 05/08/17
19th floor 08/14/17
20th floor 11/27/17
21st floor 03/11/18

"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

Offline Radman

  • Quit Pro
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,688
  • Interests: Family and friends. Other than that, anything outdoors....motorcycling, shooting, hunting, fishing, racing.
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 02:17:00 PM »
Quote from: Lifes2short
Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest. It's greatly appreciated. Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day. Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro. Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else. "No hard feelings". I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit. For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time. I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break. This time I want it and will succeed.
You're welcome. Keep some quitters in your corner on the good days, then it's a lot easier to use them on the bad days. If you've already built some relationships, then you won't hesitate to reach out when the bad days come along. Just part of building a plan.

Offline Lifes2short

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 30
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2013, 02:08:00 PM »
Radman and wastepanel...thanks for being tactful and honest. It's greatly appreciated. Your the type of quitter I want in my corner on a bad day. Diesel2112... There are over 16,000 other members, if you don't like my reasoning and approach to MY quit, than don't post on my intro. Take your own advice and "move on" to someone else. "No hard feelings". I joined this site because everyone can relate. We're all quit. For the first time in my life I truly want to be Quit, that is what is different this time. I've quit before, but knew I was just taking a break. This time I want it and will succeed.

Offline 30isEnuff

  • Quitter
  • **
  • Posts: 3,967
  • Keeping my jaw and tongue, I like them.
    • I'm The Owner of this Place.
  • Quit Date: May 25, 2012
  • Interests: "Being Quit" Today, just Today.Moving on to more of life before the light is gone.
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: First Post
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2013, 02:04:00 PM »
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Lifes2short
Diesel2112, we can get into a big debate about how posting daily will or won't help you avoid caving... to each his own.  Congrats on 324 days Quit.  As to why I quit:  I dipped openly in front of those that I knew didn't matter or wouldn't care.  I hid it from my parents, brother, wife and wife's family.  My wife caught me a few times over the last 6 1/2 years we've been married.  We'd argue about it and she'd go to bed crying worrying about losing me (lost her grandfather who was a smoker to cancer) and all I'd do was try to do better at hiding it.  I finally realized I was serious about quitting when my wife would catch me and I'd just blow it off.  Basically the arguing stopped and the distance between us grew.  I have a very addictive personality that manifests itself in various aspects of my life.  That addictive personality is now what is driving me to stay Quit.
I am interested in your way of quit.

Hell. We all are.

I would give my left nut to know to not have to constantly wage this war. Unfortunately, I know my enemy won't let me off that easily. She waits. She knows when I'm strong and she doesn't attack. She's not stupid. She waits until I'm drunk, or until I'm stressed out, or when the whole world is collapsing in on me and I don't feel I'm worth the air I breathe.

She waits.

You know how I know?

Because she's done this before. Many times.

There were the times I did it on my own (horrible failures). There were the times I argued Nicorette would be my savior this time (horrible failures). There was that time my wife and baby son jumped up and down in the bathroom as I dumped a can only to fail a couple days later.

Then there was that first time I used this program. I posted roll the first 100 days. I bitched when times were rough (after all, my mom was passing from cancer). I did it, and got to 100.

And then I faded. Fast.

I stopped posting because I didn't understand quit as a battle I'd always fight. I thought it was a war I had already won. I stopped thinking about being quit and all of the tools I learned here faded. It took some time (nearly 2 and half years later) but they were not there when I needed them.

I bummed a chew from a friend. And it was over. 4 months later, it was like I never quit before.

The thing was I felt like I needed it to be whole when I was stopped. I always assumed I was special and needed something to compensate for my lack of nicotine. When I started back, nothing changed. I still felt shitty about myself (but even more for now I had this stupid addiction to deal with). I still never felt whole.

I came back here and it took me a little while to realize that quit is a state of being. I can be "using". I can be "not using". I can be "quit". I started this process because I didn't want to use. "Not using" had failed me multiple times in the past. I'm guessing that "quit" might just be the answer, but we'll see.

I come here to tarnish the name of tobacco every morning. I don't idolize. Hell. I forget what it tastes like and I abhor the companies that sell it. I come here not because I "have to" most days (95% are good, good days where it is not a thought), but because of those days I need my weapon to perform properly shall I need it. I come here because I don't want to leave one damn thing to chance in my quit. I plan to be quit. I work to be quit. I am quit.

If you have a better way than that, well...I don't think you can.

You can do this. Don't be afraid to unleash your true capabilities instead of just getting by. If you want something, it is your job to take it.
Quote from: shel
The Little Blue Engine
The little blue engine looked up at the hill.
His light was weak, his whistle was shrill.
He was tired and small, and the hill was tall,
And his face blushed red as he softly said,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”
So he started up with a chug and a strain,
And he puffed and pulled with might and main.
And slowly he climbed, a foot at a time,
And his engine coughed as he whispered soft,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”
With a squeak and a creak and a toot and a sigh,
With an extra hope and an extra try,
He would not stop — now he neared the top —
And strong and proud he cried out loud,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!”
He was almost there, when — CRASH! SMASH! BASH!
He slid down and mashed into engine hash
On the rocks belowÂ… which goes to show
If the track is tough and the hill is rough,
THINKING you can just ainÂ’t enough!
Really Chris?? You're a full blown addict in full blown denial!!!!
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Keeping my jaw and tongue...I like them.
It's poison I tell ya, You wouldn't drink Liquid Drano, would ya?

Offline wastepanel

  • Moderator (Retired)
  • Master of Quit
  • *****
  • Posts: 21,238
  • Fuck you guys.
    • Scaretissue.com
  • Likes Given: 21
Re: First Post
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2013, 10:42:00 AM »
Quote from: Lifes2short
Diesel2112, we can get into a big debate about how posting daily will or won't help you avoid caving... to each his own.  Congrats on 324 days Quit.  As to why I quit:  I dipped openly in front of those that I knew didn't matter or wouldn't care.  I hid it from my parents, brother, wife and wife's family.  My wife caught me a few times over the last 6 1/2 years we've been married.  We'd argue about it and she'd go to bed crying worrying about losing me (lost her grandfather who was a smoker to cancer) and all I'd do was try to do better at hiding it.  I finally realized I was serious about quitting when my wife would catch me and I'd just blow it off.  Basically the arguing stopped and the distance between us grew.  I have a very addictive personality that manifests itself in various aspects of my life.  That addictive personality is now what is driving me to stay Quit.
I am interested in your way of quit.

Hell. We all are.

I would give my left nut to know to not have to constantly wage this war. Unfortunately, I know my enemy won't let me off that easily. She waits. She knows when I'm strong and she doesn't attack. She's not stupid. She waits until I'm drunk, or until I'm stressed out, or when the whole world is collapsing in on me and I don't feel I'm worth the air I breathe.

She waits.

You know how I know?

Because she's done this before. Many times.

There were the times I did it on my own (horrible failures). There were the times I argued Nicorette would be my savior this time (horrible failures). There was that time my wife and baby son jumped up and down in the bathroom as I dumped a can only to fail a couple days later.

Then there was that first time I used this program. I posted roll the first 100 days. I bitched when times were rough (after all, my mom was passing from cancer). I did it, and got to 100.

And then I faded. Fast.

I stopped posting because I didn't understand quit as a battle I'd always fight. I thought it was a war I had already won. I stopped thinking about being quit and all of the tools I learned here faded. It took some time (nearly 2 and half years later) but they were not there when I needed them.

I bummed a chew from a friend. And it was over. 4 months later, it was like I never quit before.

The thing was I felt like I needed it to be whole when I was stopped. I always assumed I was special and needed something to compensate for my lack of nicotine. When I started back, nothing changed. I still felt shitty about myself (but even more for now I had this stupid addiction to deal with). I still never felt whole.

I came back here and it took me a little while to realize that quit is a state of being. I can be "using". I can be "not using". I can be "quit". I started this process because I didn't want to use. "Not using" had failed me multiple times in the past. I'm guessing that "quit" might just be the answer, but we'll see.

I come here to tarnish the name of tobacco every morning. I don't idolize. Hell. I forget what it tastes like and I abhor the companies that sell it. I come here not because I "have to" most days (95% are good, good days where it is not a thought), but because of those days I need my weapon to perform properly shall I need it. I come here because I don't want to leave one damn thing to chance in my quit. I plan to be quit. I work to be quit. I am quit.

If you have a better way than that, well...I don't think you can.

You can do this. Don't be afraid to unleash your true capabilities instead of just getting by. If you want something, it is your job to take it.
Quote from: shel
The Little Blue Engine
The little blue engine looked up at the hill.
His light was weak, his whistle was shrill.
He was tired and small, and the hill was tall,
And his face blushed red as he softly said,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”
So he started up with a chug and a strain,
And he puffed and pulled with might and main.
And slowly he climbed, a foot at a time,
And his engine coughed as he whispered soft,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”
With a squeak and a creak and a toot and a sigh,
With an extra hope and an extra try,
He would not stop — now he neared the top —
And strong and proud he cried out loud,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!”
He was almost there, when — CRASH! SMASH! BASH!
He slid down and mashed into engine hash
On the rocks belowÂ… which goes to show
If the track is tough and the hill is rough,
THINKING you can just ainÂ’t enough!
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

Offline Radman

  • Quit Pro
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,688
  • Interests: Family and friends. Other than that, anything outdoors....motorcycling, shooting, hunting, fishing, racing.
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 09:43:00 AM »
These guys are making good points from statistical, numerical, and factual gatherings. I want to come at it for a different direction. Just want to share my personal thoughts. Maybe you're special, but there was not a single day that I can recall in my first year of quit that I didn't think about tobacco. Sincerely, man... not even one. To make this successful, I have to be quit above everything else. Even at this point in my quit, there are very few days that I don't think about it. Just this morning when I brushed my teeth I thought "damn, I can't believe that these things didn't fall out years ago".

Sorry, got sidetracked there. What I was wanting to get to was this:

The folks on this website helped me reclaim my life. Did posting roll every day do that? I'm not sure. But, the information and mindset that the vets here gave me definitely changed the way that I look at life and addiction. It helped me in many other aspects. The price of admission to use those tools was posting roll daily. So, I figured it was worth a couple minutes of my time to pay that admission. That was at first.

The brotherhood aspect surprised me. I have plenty of friends and family, so I didn't need that. I didn't even want to communicate with anybody here. I planned to just read the info I needed and post roll. Somehow that all changed. I've got some great friends on this site now.

Read this blog post from a while back. I can't illustrate it any clearer than that, and I wouldn't have gotten involved had I not came here daily and earned the respect of my peers.

You said in your intro that you want to get to know some quitters here. This is a two-way street.

Offline Diesel2112

  • Quitter
  • **
  • Posts: 4,847
  • Likes Given: 1
Re: First Post
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 09:15:00 AM »
Quote from: Lifes2short
Applejack, I am not a fan of having the first thought of every day being posting about tobacco... That is what it comes down to. I am looking forward to having days where I wonder if I even thought about a dip the prior day. I'm not knocking those who wish to post daily, I'm just not convinced its the most logical process. One could just as easily post their daily commitment and not live up to it... No one would know. Due to a move across the country several years back, I no longer hang out with the group that I started dipping with. I no longer have any close friends who've been down this road to share struggles and successes, that's why I'm here. For those that don't like my reasoning, I do understand. But there isn't any proof to show that posting daily makes you any better at staying quit.
Wow. More horse shit.

People could easily be post their daily commitment and not live up to it. Nobody would know.

Wow.

That's one of the biggest slaps in the face I have ever seen on this site. Not just to me but to everyone on this site.

You are basically saying we have zero integrity, zero honesty, zero commitment to eachother, and our word means nothing.

You just shit on this site. Seriously what kind of fuck face would do something like that. What's to gain from it?

You need to either get with the program or just shut the fuck up because every time you say something you not only sink further into your horse shit quick sand but you completely disrespect everyone.

This is a brotherhood, where our word is EVERYTHING. A brotherhood that saved my and countless others lives. If you don't agree with the way we do business, then simply move on. No hard feelings. But of you are going to continue to try to tell us our way is wrong and your way is right, you are going to get bitch slapped around like a 2 dollar whore. That much I know.
Quit 06/04/12
HOF 9/11/12
2nd floor 12/20/12
3rd floor 03/30/13
4th floor 07/08/13
5th floor 10/16/13
6th floor 01/24/14
7th floor 05/04/14
8th floor 08/12/14
9th floor 10/20/14
Comma 02/28/15
11th floor 06/08/15
12th floor 09/16/15
13th floor 12/25/15
14th floor 04/03/16
15th floor 7/11/16
16th floor 10/20/16
17th floor 01/27/17
18th floor 05/08/17
19th floor 08/14/17
20th floor 11/27/17
21st floor 03/11/18

"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

Offline Notdeadyet

  • Quitter
  • **
  • Posts: 1,785
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 08:54:00 AM »
Chris, it never ceases to amaze me when someone who has been a total failure at quitting for X number of years, in your case 17 yrs, comes in here to mouth off about how they got their own special way of quitting. You are really a pro at it, aren't you?

Reason and logic all you want, you are just being stubborn and making excuses to leave the door open to caving. You state someone could easily post each day and not live up to it - this explains YOU - no integrity = failure.

Good "luck" "trying" to quit your own "special" way. I truly "hope" you are successful. You got this man!
38 yr slave
Dumbass No More 8/31/2011

Anyone can stop, but can you quit? A "Stopper" versus a "Quitter"

Dumbass No More - A Quitter's Tale Of Ending Stupid Behavior

Offline Wt57

  • Quit Pro
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,771
  • Interests: Gardening, Dutch Oven , playing with grand kids
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 08:48:00 AM »
Planned Cave!

Rather you realize it or not.
4/1/2012: Nicotine Quit Date
7/9/12: HOF The Missing Warning Label
TODAY is the day that counts
"Do, or do not, there is no try." Yoda

Offline SirDerek

  • Quit Pro
  • ***
  • Posts: 6,730
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 06:39:00 AM »
Pardon me but I think can refute a statement that I see that you have made:

" But there isn't any proof to show that posting daily makes you any better at staying quit."

If you look at the spreadsheets that are kept within each of our monthly groups, you will see that by posting daily we at KTC have a success rate of 35 ish % for those who post at least 1 day and then stay quit for 100 days. This is the highest sucess rate in the 'quit' industry. And if you look at those who hit 100, you will see that most post at least 85% or more of the time (we are human so can miss a day or so).

And you will find that as addicts we NEED to be reminded, even just the slightest bit, about what we were each day, so that we never slip back into that can+ a day addiction. Have seen it too many times where people who have been here drift away from the site and then come back having messed up and posting another day 1.

And again hate to re-iterate, but if you do not give you word on a particular day, what additional support (since you were ninja and wife does not know), will you have if there is a hard time and a case where you want to just go buy another one and throw it in? Cause right now I do not see what you may have, and by not giving your word, it leaves you a good 'out' so you wouldn't need to be accountable.

I just know that for 305 days, I have given my word EACH AND EVERY DAY, and I am quit with the help of this site, and the brothers (and sisters) that I have made here.

but it is your choice

Offline Lifes2short

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 30
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 03:17:00 AM »
Applejack, I am not a fan of having the first thought of every day being posting about tobacco... That is what it comes down to. I am looking forward to having days where I wonder if I even thought about a dip the prior day. I'm not knocking those who wish to post daily, I'm just not convinced its the most logical process. One could just as easily post their daily commitment and not live up to it... No one would know. Due to a move across the country several years back, I no longer hang out with the group that I started dipping with. I no longer have any close friends who've been down this road to share struggles and successes, that's why I'm here. For those that don't like my reasoning, I do understand. But there isn't any proof to show that posting daily makes you any better at staying quit.

Offline AppleJack

  • Rockin’ in the free world...
  • Master of Quit
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,190
  • Quit Date: April 17, 2013
  • Likes Given: 106
Re: First Post
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 02:54:00 AM »
What is it about posting a commitment daily that has you so hung up? What could you possibly have against a successful support structure such as this site/method?
Well, it’s one louder, isn’t it? It’s not ten.

Offline Lifes2short

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 30
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: First Post
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 02:40:00 AM »
Diesel2112, we can get into a big debate about how posting daily will or won't help you avoid caving... to each his own. Congrats on 324 days Quit. As to why I quit: I dipped openly in front of those that I knew didn't matter or wouldn't care. I hid it from my parents, brother, wife and wife's family. My wife caught me a few times over the last 6 1/2 years we've been married. We'd argue about it and she'd go to bed crying worrying about losing me (lost her grandfather who was a smoker to cancer) and all I'd do was try to do better at hiding it. I finally realized I was serious about quitting when my wife would catch me and I'd just blow it off. Basically the arguing stopped and the distance between us grew. I have a very addictive personality that manifests itself in various aspects of my life. That addictive personality is now what is driving me to stay Quit.