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Offline Fla_K5

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2011, 11:16:00 AM »
Day 3 -
actually not that bad.. feeling somewhat close to normal today. At least I feel better than yesterday which was better than day 1. The immediate anxiety of “how I can do without” is starting to settle down… “”how the hell can I hunt or fish without dip””, etc, etc, etc, That was freaking me out the first few days because I have been doing this my entire adolescent and adult life… I can’t remember anything of my life without dip being a part of it.

So it seems for now ..itÂ’s getting a little better each day. IÂ’m not talking to my family about this, my wife knows and is happy but is not making a big deal about it. The only thing that matters right now is that IÂ’m very proud of myselfÂ… I dont really give a shit about anyone else and what they feel. Never in a million years thought I could go even 1 day without a dip.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2011, 10:03:00 PM »
The gallon on milkÂ… funny shit and so true before I started buying 5 + rolls of timber wolf at a time. And the family events - so true. We are no different than full blown heroin addicts.

IÂ’m now going into the 3 day quit markÂ…. Giddy fing up !

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2011, 09:46:00 PM »
Listen up Fla fla flu high. You stuffed poisons and cancer in your body for 23 years? You think your body and brain were happy about that? Probably not. So when you're fighting through this keep that in mind. Yeah its hard because you were killing yourself daily. Just the like the rest of us fucktards. But hey, here's the bonus...you don't do that anymore. And you will go through withdrawal once because you have quit. Revel in this brother. You are taking your life back. You will once again be in control. No more "Honey, got to get another gallon of milk...I dropped the one from the fridge" or draining the water tank because you need a long shower. Or bailing on a "only once" family event because you gotta get a fix. You will be in control. You will own your path. Not the nic bitch. Fight this. Own it. I'll fight with you. So will the rest of these quitters. They got balls. When that devil is staring them in the face I know they grit their teeth and take a swing because they want to live. So let's fight. Come on now. Let's do this.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2011, 02:06:00 PM »
Wow, there is a LOT of good stuff in this thread! FLA, you are using your tools perfectly. Throw your thoughts out there, let some people respond, then find the quit that fits you and wear it. One of the old vets once said "take what you need, leave the rest".

I chewed and dipped for 19 years, and for 18 1/2 of those years didn't even give a thought to quitting. Like you, I didn't want to. I ignored thoughts about death and poor health. Early last year, I half-assed quit because I thought it was the right thing to do. I caved a couple of months into it, and within a couple of days was using more than ever. At some point, I realized that I no longer had the ability to make my own decisions. I was cramming shit in my mouth and not even getting any enjoyment out of it anymore. I was disgusted with myself. I was tired of the constant nasty shit all around me. That's when I quit... for good. It was a change in mindset that I needed. I don't even use fake dip because it appears that I'm still incapable of independent thought.

You are right: drinking has been the downfall of many quits. Stay away from it, at least until you're more secure in your quit.

The attitude is a tough question. At first, you are gonna think about whether you want to or not. It is your responsiblity to have the right kind of thoughts. If you are in a trigger situation, staying quit needs to be your main thought at all times. Never let your guard down.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2011, 10:24:00 AM »
Fla,

Great insight. You got this --One day at a time.
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can do without" HD Thoreau

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 09:58:00 AM »
Going on 48 hours dip free

Things IÂ’m learning -
1.Reading other stories on this site helps a lot
2.I can tell now I should go ahead a quit drinking while IÂ’m at it. I drink only once every other weekend or soÂ… but I know that this will be the time I most likely fall back into this problem.
3. I felt like shit yesterdayÂ….periods of fog and haze. But seem to have a lot of energy for chores around the house. Just trying to keep busy. So far today I feel good.
4.Sleeping good, but 2 hours more than normal.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 08:52:00 AM »
Quote from: Fla_K5

What type of attitude is best? Constantly thinking about it and being aware of it? Or trying NOT to always think about itÂ… staying busy and acting like itÂ’s not the end of world
I had this converstion with a member yesterday. I am an addict, I have that personality. Whatever I do, good or bad, I do all the way. I stopped drinking nearly 20 years ago, and I am 40 now. The first few weeks I was into the quit groups. But then I got the feeling that they really didn't like themselves as quitters. They always talked about using, how they did it, where, when and of course the horror stories, they always tried to one up each other.

I wanted to quit, not hear about using. I knew I had had enough and moved away from the groups. It worked for me, but I was ready, and I knew I was ready.

You don't sound ready. Stay here, post roll, and don't use TODAY, not tomorrow but TODAY. The first few days you may need to go to hours or minutes, even SECONDS!

DON'T STICK THAT SHIT IN YOUR FACE THIS SECOND, don't worry about the rest.

I'm on my 4th. week after chewing for 23 years.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »
Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

Work it 1 day at a time. Just today. Today only. You can do this. Do you see the troops rallying for you?

They believe in you. Do you? I do.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 04:54:00 PM »
Welcome and Congrats.

You are gonna think about it..I don't care how badass you are...nicotine and dipping will be on your mind for a while.

Get in here, post roll and keep your promise. Peruse the site and check out what other quitters have to say.

It ain't easy but it's possible. You have to want it though. I can't quit for you brother...

Now let's get this quit started!

It gets easier and those craves get fewer and less intense as time goes by.
I quit with with you all!

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 04:39:00 PM »
yea.. the nic gun actually makes me feel weird and doesn't help anyway. I donÂ’t really see a need for it. Now.. the smokey mountain (fake dip) really helps. I guess half the habit is the routine of packing and splittingÂ…. So it helps with that. Candy and juicy fruit works too.

What type of attitude is best? Constantly thinking about it and being aware of it? Or trying NOT to always think about itÂ… staying busy and acting like itÂ’s not the end of world

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 04:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Fla_K5
Â… have some nicotine gum to help for the first few days.
Fla_K5,

Welcome. Glad you're here. You've found the right place. I was just like you 48 days ago - - wondering how in the world I'm going to part with my constant companion, Copenhagen. I couldn't imagine life without it. Now I can't imagine ever going back to it. This site works. Read, read, and read some more. You'll see you're not alone.

You will get through this. First few days will be really tough, but you will muscle through. Focus on today. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

You mentioned in your first post that you have some nic gum on standby. Toss that sh*t in the trash. We don't post roll here and still use nic. You must totally banish it. That's the way this place works. Post roll with your December brothers ONLY if/when you are nic-free.

I quit with you!

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 03:23:00 PM »
K5,

As Yoda once said, "There is no try. There is only do." Corny, but absolutely the fucking truth. One day at a time. Make the committment, post roll everyday. Get numbers so you can call/text when you are needing some support in real-time.

The first few days are shitty. It will get easier. But, don't forget you're an addict and you will forever be an addict. Don't be ashamed of this. Embrace it as something that you are. We all are. We're human, hey, what a shocker! Once you internalize the fact that you became an addict, you will be able to make peace with yourself. When that happens, you are truly on the road to recovery.

Quit with me today.

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Quit Cigs: October 1, 2009

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 03:19:00 PM »
FLA,

Bullshit!

First of all, smokeless tobacco being safe (the fantasy you wish to be true) is your addicted self talking. Your addicted-self is saying, "I really love doing this nasty shit". You don't LOVE this shit--you love that it makes you feel NORMAL.

You are addicted to NICOTINE and the dipping is the nasty ass habit that delivers your addiction--don't confuse the two. Go ahead and dip the fake shit for as long as you want--let's get you off the nicotine!

You dip nicotine to feel NORMAL. Because if you don't dip you go into withdrawal--this happens several times a day to dippers-- or all nic addicts. The way you feel after you dip is the way you will feel after you are no longer a dipper---ITS CALLED NORMAL--ITS called being HUMAN.

Now that I am a former-dipper (nic addict) I have that NORMAL high all the time--it's called being HUMAN. I don't have to place a cancerous turd in my mouth to feel NORMAL/HUMAN.

Now do you understand--the best way to feel NORMAL is to go into one last final withdrawal---its called QUITTING for TODAY and FOR GOOD! The nicotine is creating the problem and solving the problem it is creating---it is a zero-sum GAME--except the game results in death by cancer!!!! Withdrawal is the body/mind going crazy because it thinks it will die without nicotine. Once the BODY/MIND realizes that the addiction is just a lie--it will regain BALANCE.

Balance and Normality is reastablished quickly. The question is are you man enough to make the journey each day and are you man enough to let go of this LIE!

This site has the right tools to help you make this journey. I made that journey 125 days ago. I dipped 80% of my waking hours and I have not thought about dipping for the better part of the week. I was hooked on nicotine for 18 solid years--now I am not and I feel....... NORMAL

Pm me if you need anything--I support you.
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can do without" HD Thoreau

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
Radman,

Honestly the idea of NOT dipping makes me shake. I canÂ’t picture my life without it because I have done it since I was kid. ItÂ’s like breathing air to meÂ…. a natural part of my life. I understand itÂ’s not natural and that my brain needs to be reworked over time. SoÂ… do I want to quit or am I trying to quit?? BothÂ… I want to quit and IÂ’m going to try damn hard to do soÂ….because I feel like if I donÂ’t it will kill me.

These are tough questions. If all the scientist and doctor’s came out tomorrow and said smokeless tobacco is 100% safe .. would people still quit? I honestly don’t think I would as my sole reason to quit is related to the possible health problems. Again, I’m new at this and don’t know if these are the right answers. All I know is that I have never gave “quitting” a good shot and the time is now.

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Re: 22 years - time to stop
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 02:36:00 PM »
You got this !! It might not be pretty but post roll and quit, like they told me we don't try we QUIT each day and stay that way. I am only 8 days in and never tried to hide my dip and dipped a can a day for 28 years. Nothing but gum now. Hollar out to someone if you need some help