cold turkey?

[traumagnet]

I would be lying if I said I didn't want it to suck for you I really do I want it to be awful and then when you get through it all I want you to remember NAFAR not just letters strung together they mean something. IMO I feel the worse the suck is for people the less they want to go through it again. I shit my guts out cramped up couldn't sleep like some cheap crack whore only difference is the legality of the substance. Picture yourself as a strung out junkie coming down. You have this JayD get through the suck keep your head down like you have been doing. Focus on yourself man you need to be selfish as fuck and guard this quit. See you tomorrow good lord willing.

[slinger]

Quittin with you Jay. Hang in there.

[jake frawley]

I'm glad you have come back. It seems too many cave and aren't man enough to come back, admit your mistake and go forward from there (which you have done) . A couple points (which you likely already know)

So much of quitting is mental, rage is useful at first but it won't keep you going forever.

Most if not all of us have weak moments, I know I do. I don't enjoy posting every day, but it is the cost of staying quit. I would love to say I could stay quit if I no longer posted roll, but I can't.

Print the contract to quit, it has been a great reminder of why I want to be quit each day.

Do some things differently than last time, something about your last attempt was flawed, figure out what and change it.

Don't underestimate attitude, I've included a favorite quote:

Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can -V Lombardi

I'm quit with you today.

^^^^ WELL SAID!!!! This quit for me has been the best experience of my life. My stoppage in the past was weak and filled with a negative outlook on quitting. This time, I embraced it! It was a chance to change myself. I think you learn a lot of yourself when you quit. And I truly believe you can not stay quit unless we change ourselves in the process. I had to change my outlook. This quit is real! I believe this quit is real for you as well JAYD41. Keep focusing on your ODAAT. You came back after caving. You KNEW you would catch shit for it. And yet you came back. Those are actions made by a man who wants to be quit! I Will quit with you again tomorrow!

[Jungleland]

I'm glad you have come back. It seems too many cave and aren't man enough to come back, admit your mistake and go forward from there (which you have done) . A couple points (which you likely already know)

So much of quitting is mental, rage is useful at first but it won't keep you going forever.

Most if not all of us have weak moments, I know I do. I don't enjoy posting every day, but it is the cost of staying quit. I would love to say I could stay quit if I no longer posted roll, but I can't.

Print the contract to quit, it has been a great reminder of why I want to be quit each day.

Do some things differently than last time, something about your last attempt was flawed, figure out what and change it.

Don't underestimate attitude, I've included a favorite quote:

Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can -V Lombardi

I'm quit with you today.

[jayd41]

I wanted to say that in a way its very good to be back...i wish it was different circumstances but can't change that now. Last night was brutal...today wasn't much fun either...my brain is just a step slow and the fog is thick. I embrace the suck because thats what i know will work...i"ve had about 15 fireballs today which give a little pain that i accept..i deserve it...having a few work beers...to me it helps...to some it would be a bad idea..but it levels me out a bit. I quit today...i kept my word, and i quit tonight. I read through my inbox that i haven't looked at in forever and it made me sad...so much support i had...and so much support i had given...wasted. as i go through the fog...i also am going through the disappointment of letting a lot of people down...

So i got about 15 minutes left and i'm out til tomorrow...i give you all my word, that i will not use nic tonight...lord willing i'll post up tomorrow morning. Cheers ya'll. Thanks

[jayd41]

Good luck Jay. Get back to posting roll and being strong with your quit.

Do it for your loved ones if not for yourself.

Save your own life!

-- one of your friends from August 2013

Thanks DJ...i'm doing it for me...

[DeskJockey]

Good luck Jay. Get back to posting roll and being strong with your quit.

Do it for your loved ones if not for yourself.

Save your own life!

-- one of your friends from August 2013

[jayd41]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

Once again, Eddie cuts through the bullshit and posts exactly what needs to be said. Excellent post.

You used to like to go after me. Do it some more if it keeps you quit.

Your re-introduction sounds kind of weak, by the way. You sound like a guy who knows he should be quit and not one who really WANTS to be.

sorry it sounds weak...and no i won't be going after you...sometimes our sparring almost led me to cave when i was full time and quite honestly was at the top of my list for leaving...i have no room for error...i have today. i can't change what happened, i can't predict tomorrow...i have today. if thats weak i apologize...

So your passion/bravado back then was false

I had no idea.

Well. I don't want to drive you away again, so I will wish you luck on your second go around.

Quit on...

it was not false....i just know getting all riled up isn't going to help...thanks for the "luck" wishes...i don't need luck...i need to stay quit today...

[Diesel2112]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

Once again, Eddie cuts through the bullshit and posts exactly what needs to be said. Excellent post.

You used to like to go after me. Do it some more if it keeps you quit.

Your re-introduction sounds kind of weak, by the way. You sound like a guy who knows he should be quit and not one who really WANTS to be.

sorry it sounds weak...and no i won't be going after you...sometimes our sparring almost led me to cave when i was full time and quite honestly was at the top of my list for leaving...i have no room for error...i have today. i can't change what happened, i can't predict tomorrow...i have today. if thats weak i apologize...

So your passion/bravado back then was false

I had no idea.

Well. I don't want to drive you away again, so I will wish you luck on your second go around.

Quit on...

[jayd41]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

Once again, Eddie cuts through the bullshit and posts exactly what needs to be said. Excellent post.

You used to like to go after me. Do it some more if it keeps you quit.

Your re-introduction sounds kind of weak, by the way. You sound like a guy who knows he should be quit and not one who really WANTS to be.

sorry it sounds weak...and no i won't be going after you...sometimes our sparring almost led me to cave when i was full time and quite honestly was at the top of my list for leaving...i have no room for error...i have today. i can't change what happened, i can't predict tomorrow...i have today. if thats weak i apologize...

[jayd41]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

i am sorry eddie...all i have is today...and i quit today.

[Diesel2112]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

Once again, Eddie cuts through the bullshit and posts exactly what needs to be said. Excellent post.

You used to like to go after me. Do it some more if it keeps you quit.

Your re-introduction sounds kind of weak, by the way. You sound like a guy who knows he should be quit and not one who really WANTS to be.

[worktowin]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

Once again, Eddie cuts through the bullshit and posts exactly what needs to be said. Excellent post.

[Erussell]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks

I am not going to lie. When you sent me the text today it took the wind out of my sails. You told me when you faded off you were fine and would still be quit. If memory serves me right you used the excuse of being tired of the drama on the site. I knew that was most likely your addict brain trying to get away from this site. This site is like kryptonite to nicotine, so your addiction wants as far away from it as you can get. See early on your motivated, you suffer, you grit your teeth and dig in, then over time you get brave and complacent, leaving yourself vulnerable to cave! It's one thing to slow down your activity on the site, it's another to leave. I post roll every day. I will continue to post roll as long as this site exist and or I die. That's the only way I can ensure the day will be nicotine free. My promise counts and I keep my word.

I suggest you learn from this and post every day here after!

[jayd41]

And if i have to eat my words because he caves, then i'll hunt him down and break his legs, but until then i'm quit with scott...-jayd41

Hmmm a vet carries that line in his signature block way more support than quite a few here. What happened to that kind of quit. What happened to texting calling what have you? I don't get it you just forgot all your tools or what. So now do you get it you can never just have one!!!! You are an addict you will always be.

If I were you I would build accountability into your new plan reaching out far and wide and protecting this quit with your life because it is. You became complacent and you became in perfect alignment to get the results you got. This time don't make the HOF the finish line it aint its a milestone there is not finish line when dealing with addiction. PM me if you need a number.
Trauma
338

When you faded away it was a real head scratcher for me too Jay, you seemed so involved I was surprised when you quit posting. I was in August with you, Jake, Eddie and the rest....albeit I made only made a couple days but I lurked and watched as my fellow August quitters kept piling up the days.

I have made it through 247 days nicotine free and have posted roll every day and believe that is what it takes to have continued freedom. I am glad to see you back for two reasons. The first obviously being your own health and freedom, the second is for the reminder that no matter how many days we may put behind us, complacency can put us right back where we started.

If you want my support, I'll be glad to give it, just shoot me a PM.

Good find there Trauma. Isn't it a real bitch when a string of simple words come back to haunt you? Words actually have meaning and are quite powerful. "I Quit" -- very strong words.

and you are right...i knew that would come back up and i expected it...and deserved it...thanks