Gelas Has Fallen

[magnum9]

This is why I never posted a HOF speech.  Hitting HOF isn't "arriving".  There is no end for the quitting, it takes every single day to log on here and post another day of no nicotine.  Do I really think that after spending 5+ years addicted to a drug I will suddenly, after 3.5 months be cured?  No!  That's why there are so many quit groups on this site!  That's why there are so many people on here to continue to encourage each other well past the 1 year mark.

The hardest time for me to stay quit was the first week.  The second hardest was when I hit the 100 days.  I felt like it was over.  "Well, that was tough, now let's have a dip" was the idea running through my head.  This is not a sprint, this is a long long haul that will last for many many years.  I recognize that and I accept that, and I would rather spend years denying myself an addiction than caving in a day and going back to that thing that was ruining my life all along.



Gelas:  Bro, we quit with you for over 100 days.  We all helped each other out, and just seeing peoples' names start stacking up day after day around mine was really encouraging.  That being said, you know already that when a person fails and caves it does nothing but strengthen the resolve of the group.  You're not taking anyone else with you, we're going to work hard on that.  When you feel like quitting again, post a Day 1 and I will be right there to quit with you.  Until then, enjoy that dip, because you're paying for it with years off your life.

'clap' Well said...You sir GET IT!

MOA

A HOF speech isn't about celebrating the final victory over addiction. I mean, that day will never come.

A HOF speech is about sharing your journey with others, maybe throw in some thank you's. New quitters are typically encouraged to read them. Stories of success are a positive influence for a new quitter.

For me, the speech was also about putting more skin in the game. It's one of the reasons I WILL NOT FAIL. It was just another step in this process that strengthened my quit. It was part of closing the door.

This is just my opinion: not writing a speech is one of those subconscious things that gives some quitters here a easier out to cave. "I didn't write a speech, I don't owe anyone here anything".

I see your point, Andrew. I just wanted to offer a different perspective.

Agree with LA on this one all the way.

I wasn't going to write a speech at all. Then I realized that some people really found helpful stuff in the speeches. I have even seen some say that HoF speeches were one of the only things that got them through.

That's why I titles my speech: This quit is for me, the speech for you


However, if not doing a speech is what works for you then by all means keep it that way!

[LaQuitter]

This is why I never posted a HOF speech.  Hitting HOF isn't "arriving".  There is no end for the quitting, it takes every single day to log on here and post another day of no nicotine.  Do I really think that after spending 5+ years addicted to a drug I will suddenly, after 3.5 months be cured?  No!  That's why there are so many quit groups on this site!  That's why there are so many people on here to continue to encourage each other well past the 1 year mark.

The hardest time for me to stay quit was the first week.  The second hardest was when I hit the 100 days.  I felt like it was over.  "Well, that was tough, now let's have a dip" was the idea running through my head.  This is not a sprint, this is a long long haul that will last for many many years.  I recognize that and I accept that, and I would rather spend years denying myself an addiction than caving in a day and going back to that thing that was ruining my life all along.



Gelas:  Bro, we quit with you for over 100 days.  We all helped each other out, and just seeing peoples' names start stacking up day after day around mine was really encouraging.  That being said, you know already that when a person fails and caves it does nothing but strengthen the resolve of the group.  You're not taking anyone else with you, we're going to work hard on that.  When you feel like quitting again, post a Day 1 and I will be right there to quit with you.  Until then, enjoy that dip, because you're paying for it with years off your life.

'clap' Well said...You sir GET IT!

MOA

A HOF speech isn't about celebrating the final victory over addiction. I mean, that day will never come.

A HOF speech is about sharing your journey with others, maybe throw in some thank you's. New quitters are typically encouraged to read them. Stories of success are a positive influence for a new quitter.

For me, the speech was also about putting more skin in the game. It's one of the reasons I WILL NOT FAIL. It was just another step in this process that strengthened my quit. It was part of closing the door.

This is just my opinion: not writing a speech is one of those subconscious things that gives some quitters here a easier out to cave. "I didn't write a speech, I don't owe anyone here anything".

I see your point, Andrew. I just wanted to offer a different perspective.

[minuteofangle]

This is why I never posted a HOF speech. Hitting HOF isn't "arriving". There is no end for the quitting, it takes every single day to log on here and post another day of no nicotine. Do I really think that after spending 5+ years addicted to a drug I will suddenly, after 3.5 months be cured? No! That's why there are so many quit groups on this site! That's why there are so many people on here to continue to encourage each other well past the 1 year mark.

The hardest time for me to stay quit was the first week. The second hardest was when I hit the 100 days. I felt like it was over. "Well, that was tough, now let's have a dip" was the idea running through my head. This is not a sprint, this is a long long haul that will last for many many years. I recognize that and I accept that, and I would rather spend years denying myself an addiction than caving in a day and going back to that thing that was ruining my life all along.



Gelas: Bro, we quit with you for over 100 days. We all helped each other out, and just seeing peoples' names start stacking up day after day around mine was really encouraging. That being said, you know already that when a person fails and caves it does nothing but strengthen the resolve of the group. You're not taking anyone else with you, we're going to work hard on that. When you feel like quitting again, post a Day 1 and I will be right there to quit with you. Until then, enjoy that dip, because you're paying for it with years off your life.

'clap' Well said...You sir GET IT!

MOA

[andrew]

This is why I never posted a HOF speech. Hitting HOF isn't "arriving". There is no end for the quitting, it takes every single day to log on here and post another day of no nicotine. Do I really think that after spending 5+ years addicted to a drug I will suddenly, after 3.5 months be cured? No! That's why there are so many quit groups on this site! That's why there are so many people on here to continue to encourage each other well past the 1 year mark.

The hardest time for me to stay quit was the first week. The second hardest was when I hit the 100 days. I felt like it was over. "Well, that was tough, now let's have a dip" was the idea running through my head. This is not a sprint, this is a long long haul that will last for many many years. I recognize that and I accept that, and I would rather spend years denying myself an addiction than caving in a day and going back to that thing that was ruining my life all along.



Gelas: Bro, we quit with you for over 100 days. We all helped each other out, and just seeing peoples' names start stacking up day after day around mine was really encouraging. That being said, you know already that when a person fails and caves it does nothing but strengthen the resolve of the group. You're not taking anyone else with you, we're going to work hard on that. When you feel like quitting again, post a Day 1 and I will be right there to quit with you. Until then, enjoy that dip, because you're paying for it with years off your life.

[elkhills]

Gelas, I hope you will respond at least to tell us all how it felt. Was it amazing? Was it like main-lining heroin? Did your brain feel like a hit-the-jackpot slot machine with 4th of July fireworks going off all at the same time? Last time I caved that's how it felt for me. That's how I know I'm an addict. No, addict doesn't say it well enough- I'm a dirty whore gutter junkie when it comes to nicotine and I would probably do just about anything short of sucking a dick to get my next fix.
I hope it was worth it. Man, was it blah? Was it just like... nothing? Just falling back into some old habit? Boy, you would have to be one sad pathetic sonofabitch to fuck yourself over for nothing.
You know why it took me so long to quit? Because I was selfish and I didn't want to go through the discomfort of quitting.
You know why ill never go back? Because I'm selfish and I don't want to go through the discomfort of quitting ever again.
I will use your failure to motivate myself.
I won't go through this bullshit again.

[magnum9]

Get up... spit that shit out and post role in Sept.  It's that simple. Compared to you I am a newbie. But, I couldn't imagine coming in here and slapping all these guys in the face like that. You fucked up but you didn't own it. Own it. We all depend on each other in here. It really is life and death. So please give the situation and the rest of us some respect. Just because you don't care doesn't mean we don't. For you, and for us get up, dust yourself off and get back to it... ASAP

Honestly,

At this point why are we trying to get him back?

I understand trying to save a guys life. We tried.

Gelas does not want to quit. It is obvious that the "star-power" of making the HoF was all that made him want to quit.

Gelas does not want to quit, he planned a cave and did it that day. This is premeditated in which he thought about every single one of you from the time the plan started to the time he put the shit in.

This so far is the worst cave I have ever seen. Every cave is bad. But Gelas didn't just give in to the nic bitch.... He first thought about all of you, beat off on your faces, laughed about it, then picked up the can and shoved it in.


He does not belong here any longer. Even if he decides to quit again. He does not belong on this forum. There is no integrity left in him.



It is clear that there is a maturity problem with this one. He would be happy to cave again just for the attention he gets.

Go back to dipping your face off while playing WoW Gelas. We don't want your pussy ass here.

[dragstered]

Get up... spit that shit out and post role in Sept. It's that simple. Compared to you I am a newbie. But, I couldn't imagine coming in here and slapping all these guys in the face like that. You fucked up but you didn't own it. Own it. We all depend on each other in here. It really is life and death. So please give the situation and the rest of us some respect. Just because you don't care doesn't mean we don't. For you, and for us get up, dust yourself off and get back to it... ASAP

[Gatortom]

Gelas,
I couldn't care less if you ever come back. I thought you were a shit starter and asshole while you were in April 11 and this just proves it. You are a weak-minded pussy who has no backbone. Keep stuffing turds in your lip for all I care. Hope your family is prepared to see you with half a face or withering away from the big C.

Tom

[Parputt]

Yesterday I planned on caving and I did it, which is why I never posted.

You planned to quit? Way to go fucktard. Come back and be forgiven? Think again, you will never be forgiven. Tolerated maybe, but never forgiven.

[rebeldog]

Just want to say I love what the Marines do for us, love my quit, love KTC, and hate pussy ass cavers.

Anyone with a Sun-Maid raisin avatar is a queer and just doesn't know it yet.

Gelas, get a real man's avatar, go to September, post day 1 and start over.  Or you can look at pictures of Tom Brady's long hair while jacking off and dipping at the same time.

Sheesh, what a pussy.

Semper Fi (nsfw)

[ODAAT]

Just want to say I love what the Marines do for us, love my quit, love KTC, and hate pussy ass cavers.

Anyone with a Sun-Maid raisin avatar is a queer and just doesn't know it yet.

Gelas, get a real man's avatar, go to September, post day 1 and start over. Or you can look at pictures of Tom Brady's long hair while jacking off and dipping at the same time.

Sheesh, what a pussy.

[AceInTheHole]

Gelas, if you even bother to read this know that if you head towards Sept. 2011 YOU BETTER USE YOUR SAME FUCKING SCREENNAME! There's no hiding from the truth, and the truth right now is that you're a weak-willed flaccid-cock-loving pussy, don't make it worse by posing as someone new.

[Frazzled]

I remember Gelas vaguely when he came on board.  He and Frazzled showed up about the same time.  I watched Gelas from afar so to speak.  I watched him do all the right things:  he posted roll; he got engaged; he talked shit; like Dean says, he apparently put "skin in the game".  He made the Hall, he wrote a speech - a good one at that. 

Yep, he and I shared a HOF date. Note the past tense of this statement.

Too bad it was all a lie.

Not sure if I would go this far - NOLAQ, you're written before that there is a difference between quitting (verb) and being quit (noun). I am quit. Gelas, in a note to me, said he was "tired of quitting".

Now, Gelas, in my opinion is not a guy that consciously lied on a daily basis when he posted roll.  We saw Dad of Five do that shit for 18 days.  No, in my humble opinion, Gelas never believed any of this.  He didn't buy into this thing from the start.  He was going through the motions.

This I believe is closer to the truth. See above - being quit vs. quitting. When you're quit, you don't have to be quitting. It's already done. You've taken control back and will not allow anything to take your resolve away. When you are constantly quitting, it is like a task, some drudgery that has to be carried out. For me, posting roll is a joy, not a burden.

Gelas does not have his head straight, and therefore cannot be helped right now.  When all of you were using, could anyone talk you out of it? 

Nope.

Gelas, when you read this, know that when your shit is wired straight, you will have more support than you deserve.

Absolute, spot-on truth. Gelas, you are an ass for giving up. You are a fool for thinking that planning a cave was any better than having such bad craves and being unwilling to call someone. You had my number, but you chose not to call because you planned to do this.

Before you come back and post Day 1, please have the decency to post in April 2011 and in this thread how you plan to make this time different and successful. And take your damn HOF date out of your signature. That is a slap in the face to those of us who put another day of quit behind them.

[magnum9]

Ok, at my first post in this thread I tried to give Gelas the benefit of the doubt.

Now I know the doubt was right.

Gelas is here because he knows he can not stop stuffing his face with the nic bitch. He gave up and now is a weakling.

What he is doing is trying to make all of us fall in to his failure with him. To do it, Gelas knows he can not come in here and insult us. So he must try to act sorry for failing. If he was sorry he would be posting September.

But now he is simply accepting defeat because he is a pussy loser stuffing his face for life.


I have to agree with Rebel though. Part of Gelas's problem is he is 29 and still playing WoW.

This guy needs to grow up before he will be man enough to quit dip.

[Smokeyg]

Congratulations to everyone for one more successful day of quit. Take pride in every success. Every new day quit is worth celebrating. You will never conquer this addiction, but that's what makes quitting so fucking cool. Every day is earned and lived to the fullest.