I've been around for a bit heres my intro

[JohnK]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

Thanks for posting this Bro.. If you can go through this and stay quit. I can stay quit with my pussy stress that I have! wow.. Thanks Man.. Did you guys find work yet? Gooch

Yeah gooch thanks for asking. Things are still really tight. My wife found a job but she doesnt start until July first. I found one at a fast food joint but its a job. The quit is still going good. But I am convinced if not for KTC i'd be opening a can of cancer right now.

[mikegooch]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

Thanks for posting this Bro.. If you can go through this and stay quit. I can stay quit with my pussy stress that I have! wow.. Thanks Man.. Did you guys find work yet? Gooch

[raiderx]

I've seen a few people come and go on this site since I've been here. I've seen bad ass dedicated quitters, I've seen people cave and come back stronger than before, and I've seen people last a day and roll out. I just wanted to write down my thoughts on caving and what it means to me. I am an addict, I am addicted to nicotine. I have been quit 74 days now and I still think about dip. My mind still thinks at times that a can of cancer will ease the stress, make yard work more enjoyable, make those long drives easier. So far I have beat those thoughts and plan to continue doing so. I dont believe people who come back and say, "sorry guys I made a mistake. I accidently dipped or smoked. I was drunk or my friend offered me a pinch or pouch". That's bullshit 100% pure and simple. There is no accidental cave. In fact I dont even like the word "cave" If you used nicotine you made the choice to do it. I know because everyday I make the choice NOT to use it. Maybe one day I will dip again, I cant see the future but if I ever did you would never hear me say, "I'm sorry guys I was drunk or in a messed up situation, or my friend had some". What you will hear me say is, "Hey guys I dipped why did I dip because I wanted to and at the time I was doing it I decided my word, my promise to you meant shit. I decided fuck you guys and fuck KTC".  That might be an asshole way to say it but it would be honest. If you "cave" and you come back with some bullshit reason of why you caved and how you really didnt mean to, youre probably going to post a day or two and then stop coming aroud. Quitting isnt easy but if you make the decision to use nicotine and you cant even be honest with yourself about why you did it youre not going to make it. Dont post in a new group just to weaken and poison their resolve with your pussy quit and bullshit attitude.

X2 brother!!

Well put we have some serious quiters and some pretenders I say we congratulate the badd asss quiters who stay dedicated and motivate the prentenders to become bad asses!

Great to be quit with you today!

Rack him! 'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

You are the man. Quit with you today.

[Mthomas3824]

I've seen a few people come and go on this site since I've been here. I've seen bad ass dedicated quitters, I've seen people cave and come back stronger than before, and I've seen people last a day and roll out. I just wanted to write down my thoughts on caving and what it means to me. I am an addict, I am addicted to nicotine. I have been quit 74 days now and I still think about dip. My mind still thinks at times that a can of cancer will ease the stress, make yard work more enjoyable, make those long drives easier. So far I have beat those thoughts and plan to continue doing so. I dont believe people who come back and say, "sorry guys I made a mistake. I accidently dipped or smoked. I was drunk or my friend offered me a pinch or pouch". That's bullshit 100% pure and simple. There is no accidental cave. In fact I dont even like the word "cave" If you used nicotine you made the choice to do it. I know because everyday I make the choice NOT to use it. Maybe one day I will dip again, I cant see the future but if I ever did you would never hear me say, "I'm sorry guys I was drunk or in a messed up situation, or my friend had some". What you will hear me say is, "Hey guys I dipped why did I dip because I wanted to and at the time I was doing it I decided my word, my promise to you meant shit. I decided fuck you guys and fuck KTC".  That might be an asshole way to say it but it would be honest. If you "cave" and you come back with some bullshit reason of why you caved and how you really didnt mean to, youre probably going to post a day or two and then stop coming aroud. Quitting isnt easy but if you make the decision to use nicotine and you cant even be honest with yourself about why you did it youre not going to make it. Dont post in a new group just to weaken and poison their resolve with your pussy quit and bullshit attitude.

X2 brother!!

Well put we have some serious quiters and some pretenders I say we congratulate the badd asss quiters who stay dedicated and motivate the prentenders to become bad asses!

Great to be quit with you today!

Rack him! 'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

[Grizzly25]

I've seen a few people come and go on this site since I've been here. I've seen bad ass dedicated quitters, I've seen people cave and come back stronger than before, and I've seen people last a day and roll out. I just wanted to write down my thoughts on caving and what it means to me. I am an addict, I am addicted to nicotine. I have been quit 74 days now and I still think about dip. My mind still thinks at times that a can of cancer will ease the stress, make yard work more enjoyable, make those long drives easier. So far I have beat those thoughts and plan to continue doing so. I dont believe people who come back and say, "sorry guys I made a mistake. I accidently dipped or smoked. I was drunk or my friend offered me a pinch or pouch". That's bullshit 100% pure and simple. There is no accidental cave. In fact I dont even like the word "cave" If you used nicotine you made the choice to do it. I know because everyday I make the choice NOT to use it. Maybe one day I will dip again, I cant see the future but if I ever did you would never hear me say, "I'm sorry guys I was drunk or in a messed up situation, or my friend had some". What you will hear me say is, "Hey guys I dipped why did I dip because I wanted to and at the time I was doing it I decided my word, my promise to you meant shit. I decided fuck you guys and fuck KTC". That might be an asshole way to say it but it would be honest. If you "cave" and you come back with some bullshit reason of why you caved and how you really didnt mean to, youre probably going to post a day or two and then stop coming aroud. Quitting isnt easy but if you make the decision to use nicotine and you cant even be honest with yourself about why you did it youre not going to make it. Dont post in a new group just to weaken and poison their resolve with your pussy quit and bullshit attitude.

X2 brother!!

Well put we have some serious quiters and some pretenders I say we congratulate the badd asss quiters who stay dedicated and motivate the prentenders to become bad asses!

Great to be quit with you today!

[JohnK]

I've seen a few people come and go on this site since I've been here. I've seen bad ass dedicated quitters, I've seen people cave and come back stronger than before, and I've seen people last a day and roll out. I just wanted to write down my thoughts on caving and what it means to me. I am an addict, I am addicted to nicotine. I have been quit 74 days now and I still think about dip. My mind still thinks at times that a can of cancer will ease the stress, make yard work more enjoyable, make those long drives easier. So far I have beat those thoughts and plan to continue doing so. I dont believe people who come back and say, "sorry guys I made a mistake. I accidently dipped or smoked. I was drunk or my friend offered me a pinch or pouch". That's bullshit 100% pure and simple. There is no accidental cave. In fact I dont even like the word "cave" If you used nicotine you made the choice to do it. I know because everyday I make the choice NOT to use it. Maybe one day I will dip again, I cant see the future but if I ever did you would never hear me say, "I'm sorry guys I was drunk or in a messed up situation, or my friend had some". What you will hear me say is, "Hey guys I dipped why did I dip because I wanted to and at the time I was doing it I decided my word, my promise to you meant shit. I decided fuck you guys and fuck KTC". That might be an asshole way to say it but it would be honest. If you "cave" and you come back with some bullshit reason of why you caved and how you really didnt mean to, youre probably going to post a day or two and then stop coming aroud. Quitting isnt easy but if you make the decision to use nicotine and you cant even be honest with yourself about why you did it youre not going to make it. Dont post in a new group just to weaken and poison their resolve with your pussy quit and bullshit attitude.

[wastepanel]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

Just read your post
Good on for you. I will quit with you today.

I'll second that. I'm damn proud to be quit with badasses like you.

This financial conundrum completely highlights our addiction: I am stressed out because I need money. Addict solution: Spend money on a can and all your problems will be easier to deal with.

It's lunacy, and it would be a lie to tell you I haven't had the same thoughts. Fortunately, they are only addict thoughts. Close the door on it, and get pissed that your brain throws out using as a solution. Own this.

PM if you need anything.

[raiderx]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

Just read your post
Good on for you. I will quit with you today.

[JohnK]

Proud of you John, You are showing what you are made of!!!! Keep it up and hold your head high. Look around there is always someone out there that has things worse than you. I don't want to trade my shitty days with anyone else.

I agree with that, sometimes its hard to see how things could be worse but they could always be. Things will work out the usually do.

[Wt57]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

Proud of you John, You are showing what you are made of!!!! Keep it up and hold your head high. Look around there is always someone out there that has things worse than you. I don't want to trade my shitty days with anyone else.

[JohnK]

Well I know we all have issues and life isnt easy and blah blah blah, we've heard the excuses people who cave give. Well heres my issue and its not really that i'm going to cave its just that if I can not cave during this stressful time then I should be able to make it through anything. Some of you know that I stay home and watch the kids, its not really a choice its financially sound. Daycare cost a shit ton, my wife is/was a banker. She made decent money and although I was looking for a job it wasnt really rushed. We moved to Georgia at the end of February and its a pretty tiny town of about 7,000 so work is slim anyway. Well 13 days ago I was on day 15 just two hard weeks into my quit. My wife calls to tell me shes on her way home from work. I jokingly told her I had horrible news, the house wasnt clean. She started crying and told me her news was worse she had been fired. She had worked for this bank for close to five years and was everything from a teller to a service manager and even did mortgages for a little while. So it hit me pretty hard that she had lost her job we werent rich by any means but we were doing ok. The move had taken a good bit of money though so we were starting to save again. Here we are 13 days later Im on day 28 now, and niether of us has found any work yet. The stress is pretty bad, but I post everyday and I go in the chat room and I laugh at what goes on in there. Would I like a dip, yeah I would. I would love a dip but thats not me talking its the nic bitch. See I promised Cmark and LuLou and Cuttin247, Timeless CNC Klark and everyone in my July 2012 group that I would not use nicotine. Myself, my wife, my kids, all expect more out of me and I will not fail to deliver.

[cmark]

I'm 28 years old and dipped and chewed for about 6 years. Thats not very long compared to alot of you guys. I know what I've gone through the first week or so of my quit and it sucked to say the least. I'm sure it was worse on the guys who have been at it longer then I have. I was a wintergreen guy, BeechNut or Grizzly. but I wasnt very loyal. I used Cope, Wolf, Redman, and the one pound bags of Stokers Tennessee chew. I never tried to quit before I'd go a couple of days without it but not by choice. I was using either a can every other day or a few pouches of chew a  day. Here I am on day 20 and so far so good, the KTC accountability system works. I think about dipping sometimes and sometimes I really want to just grab a can. Quitting isnt easy but then they say most things in life worth doing arent. I  guess thats about all I've got for an intro. If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them. Just know that today, I am quit with all of you.

I'm very fucking proud of you man.

I'm an addict. You're an addict. We're all addicts. It doesn't matter how long you used, it sucks to quit initially. It's no better or worse for you. It's the attitude you take that makes it better or worse.

How great is it that you are not defined by your "brand"? You can be defined simply by your actions: quit.

That's awesome.

It's ok to have thoughts about buying a can. Frankly, I do too sometimes. It's important to realize that you will never be cured, but life is way better quit. When I first quit, I thought about chewing all day long. Then, it was 20 hours a day. Then it was a few times a day. Now, it is a couple times a week.

I proctect my quit as best I can.

Stay clear of the sun. You won't see your wings melting.

John it doesnt matter how long a person has used we're all addicts. Detox and withdrawal sucks for all of us. I don't know that one persons withdrawal is any worse than another. I believe that the withdrawal is related to the commitment we have to quit; I have gone through withdrawal dozens of times over nearly 40 yr, I believe that this has been the easiest by far because of my absolute total commitment. If you aren't 100% commited you leave the door open even if it is only a very small unnoticeable amount, Just a far away subconscious thought. The bitch knows you better than you know yourself. You can do it if you really want it 1 day at a time

If you need anything, just pm. I'm proud to be quit alongside you.

John, Glad we connected. Nice intro dude.... Glad U are with me in JULY.

1DAAT,
Cheers Mark

[Wt57]

I'm 28 years old and dipped and chewed for about 6 years. Thats not very long compared to alot of you guys. I know what I've gone through the first week or so of my quit and it sucked to say the least. I'm sure it was worse on the guys who have been at it longer then I have. I was a wintergreen guy, BeechNut or Grizzly. but I wasnt very loyal. I used Cope, Wolf, Redman, and the one pound bags of Stokers Tennessee chew. I never tried to quit before I'd go a couple of days without it but not by choice. I was using either a can every other day or a few pouches of chew a  day. Here I am on day 20 and so far so good, the KTC accountability system works. I think about dipping sometimes and sometimes I really want to just grab a can. Quitting isnt easy but then they say most things in life worth doing arent. I  guess thats about all I've got for an intro. If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them. Just know that today, I am quit with all of you.

I'm very fucking proud of you man.

I'm an addict. You're an addict. We're all addicts. It doesn't matter how long you used, it sucks to quit initially. It's no better or worse for you. It's the attitude you take that makes it better or worse.

How great is it that you are not defined by your "brand"? You can be defined simply by your actions: quit.

That's awesome.

It's ok to have thoughts about buying a can. Frankly, I do too sometimes. It's important to realize that you will never be cured, but life is way better quit. When I first quit, I thought about chewing all day long. Then, it was 20 hours a day. Then it was a few times a day. Now, it is a couple times a week.

I proctect my quit as best I can.

Stay clear of the sun. You won't see your wings melting.

If you need anything, just pm. I'm proud to be quit alongside you.

John it doesnt matter how long a person has used we're all addicts. Detox and withdrawal sucks for all of us. I don't know that one persons withdrawal is any worse than another. I believe that the withdrawal is related to the commitment we have to quit; I have gone through withdrawal dozens of times over nearly 40 yr, I believe that this has been the easiest by far because of my absolute total commitment. If you aren't 100% commited you leave the door open even if it is only a very small unnoticeable amount, Just a far away subconscious thought. The bitch knows you better than you know yourself. You can do it if you really want it 1 day at a time

[Bean]

Great choice!!! Post roll, stay strong and live free. Welcome, brother!

[wastepanel]

I'm 28 years old and dipped and chewed for about 6 years. Thats not very long compared to alot of you guys. I know what I've gone through the first week or so of my quit and it sucked to say the least. I'm sure it was worse on the guys who have been at it longer then I have. I was a wintergreen guy, BeechNut or Grizzly. but I wasnt very loyal. I used Cope, Wolf, Redman, and the one pound bags of Stokers Tennessee chew. I never tried to quit before I'd go a couple of days without it but not by choice. I was using either a can every other day or a few pouches of chew a day. Here I am on day 20 and so far so good, the KTC accountability system works. I think about dipping sometimes and sometimes I really want to just grab a can. Quitting isnt easy but then they say most things in life worth doing arent. I guess thats about all I've got for an intro. If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them. Just know that today, I am quit with all of you.

I'm very fucking proud of you man.

I'm an addict. You're an addict. We're all addicts. It doesn't matter how long you used, it sucks to quit initially. It's no better or worse for you. It's the attitude you take that makes it better or worse.

How great is it that you are not defined by your "brand"? You can be defined simply by your actions: quit.

That's awesome.

It's ok to have thoughts about buying a can. Frankly, I do too sometimes. It's important to realize that you will never be cured, but life is way better quit. When I first quit, I thought about chewing all day long. Then, it was 20 hours a day. Then it was a few times a day. Now, it is a couple times a week.

I proctect my quit as best I can.

Stay clear of the sun. You won't see your wings melting.

If you need anything, just pm. I'm proud to be quit alongside you.