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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2014, 03:43:00 PM »
Quote from: Ginet
It's starting to come together for me. It's my perspective that is off. Changing that will strengthen my quit. Changing that will help me help someone else.

So, while I woke up this morning wanting a dip even before my feet hit the floor, I went and posted roll. Staggering into the shower still fighting her off, I knew it was going to be one of those "run the hot water line until its gone" showers. Focus. Fight.

Then it clicked. All of the positive feedback I get in here from people that freaking GET IT and turning my thinking around along with all the time I have wasted in this shower with a dip in.........finally came together. Change my perspective!

My husband gets home tomorrow and there will be a long dip free shower until the hot water runs out with him. Spinning it around Nic Bitch!

That's my plan for tomorrow, now I gotta go deal with today.

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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2014, 12:20:00 PM »
It's starting to come together for me. It's my perspective that is off. Changing that will strengthen my quit. Changing that will help me help someone else.

So, while I woke up this morning wanting a dip even before my feet hit the floor, I went and posted roll. Staggering into the shower still fighting her off, I knew it was going to be one of those "run the hot water line until its gone" showers. Focus. Fight.

Then it clicked. All of the positive feedback I get in here from people that freaking GET IT and turning my thinking around along with all the time I have wasted in this shower with a dip in.........finally came together. Change my perspective!

My husband gets home tomorrow and there will be a long dip free shower until the hot water runs out with him. Spinning it around Nic Bitch!

That's my plan for tomorrow, now I gotta go deal with today.

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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2014, 09:11:00 AM »
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One day at a time and Monday isn't today..
That ^^^^ about sums it up ginet. Just be prepared,, make sure you have plenty of candies, seeds, fake, whatever you got to have to get through the day. I told one other and i'll tell you the same. You can't beat it until you face it.

You will be surprised how easy it gets day after day. I use to think that dipping helped me with work. It helped me stay awake. It helped me in stressful situations. What a load of bullsh-- that turned out to be. I handle work better than ever now. I can't believe how different I feel now that the poison isn't part of the problem. When you get a chance watch the people that are still using. I know you are early in your quit, but take a good look at someone using. There must be one at work that you know that uses. Watch how they act when they begin needing their fix. It's sad!

You already are ahead of the game now. You have quit so you will not have to get that fix. One problem gone! Believe me, you just made work easier. One less problem you have to deal with everyday. You got this,, stop worrying. You made it this far, and if I can do it you can bet you can. Your no different. We're both addicts, but we don't have to be controlled anymore. Quit with you today.
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #102 on: January 24, 2014, 11:30:00 PM »
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I have been on vacation for all of 2014. Yes, I have/had that much vacation. I go back to work on Monday and have never been at work dip free (for my ninja dips). Anyway, all I can do is bring my numbers with me and my laptop or tablet in order to log on there since I can't from the secure networks....definitely forbidden. I rely on this place and having access to it. If I have your number, your phone may blow up next week as I adjust to it if I can't get into to chat to scream. One day at a time and Monday isn't today...
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #101 on: January 24, 2014, 11:23:00 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if the new and improved Ginet steps into her job and says to herself, "work is so much easier now that I don't have to worry about finding a way to dip." Time to start looking at these former dip triggers as minor speed bumps that don't slow your quit down. You crushed it on that long drive early on in your quit, this is nothing compared to that...you got this.
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2014, 06:40:00 PM »
I have been on vacation for all of 2014. Yes, I have/had that much vacation. I go back to work on Monday and have never been at work dip free (for my ninja dips). Anyway, all I can do is bring my numbers with me and my laptop or tablet in order to log on there since I can't from the secure networks....definitely forbidden. I rely on this place and having access to it. If I have your number, your phone may blow up next week as I adjust to it if I can't get into to chat to scream. One day at a time and Monday isn't today...
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it. ~ Chinese Proverb
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2014, 06:29:00 PM »
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I just wanted to wish you a good day and thank you for chatting with me. Also, I offer any and all the support I can offer to you.
My pleasure PP. Check your inbox. QLF (borrowed from Coach cuz I dig it)
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2014, 05:43:00 AM »
I just wanted to wish you a good day and thank you for chatting with me. Also, I offer any and all the support I can offer to you.
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2014, 10:53:00 AM »
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Ginet,
Here's my take on this interesting thread.  Since we are quit, we are holding ourselves to incredibly tough levels of personal accountability.  And since we've been achieving our goals of staying quit through sheer toughness, teamwork, and grit...we also have developed a (perhaps unreasonable) expectation that everyone around us should also be as disciplined and strong as we are.  Wrong.  They are weak, and they are losers because they don't have discipline in their everyday tasks.

Because you are a quitter, you are stronger and have no patience for the weak.  There is nothing wrong with that.  Embrace the feeling that you are in a way actually "superior" to them because you are conquering something that is so much more significant than anything they could ever face. They will never be as strong as you.  Let it go at that.

Controversial, maybe, but's it's the way I felt when I quit alcohol 12 years ago.  I look at heavy drinkers and say to myself.  Been there, done that, don't want it no more.  I look at them and also say...I've graduated beyond that to a higher level of personal conduct, a higher level of personal care for my body and mind, and achieved a determination that has no equal.  And that exact same feeling came back 27 days ago when I quit chew.  It actually can fuel your quit, and make you even more resolute...
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I think Zillah has a point, you ARE engaged in something tougher and requiring more discipline than many. However that doesn't automatically give us a pass to be asses to others, particularly those close to us. This early in your quit you are going to rage, most do. It is your body and brain's way of dealing with getting cut off a powerful addictive drug. Rage in here, we've all been there and can take it. Practice patience and self-control (same discipline needed to quit) with others as much as possible. It will get easier, much of that rage will go away. However I still have to battle getting pissed when others simply are not trying very hard at whatever they do. Frankly I'm not sure that is a bad thing to have higher expectations, but rarely does it do any good to snap on someone.
You both are right. I am invested in a powerful quit. Part of guarding it is not letting these situations get to me....remain calm, keep on keepin' on. I will just move up from 3 days of kickboxing to 5 to help with that part and will need to really pick my battles. I got this! Gotta go get another glass of KoolAide....
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2014, 10:50:00 AM »
Quote from: Zillah
Ginet,
Here's my take on this interesting thread. Since we are quit, we are holding ourselves to incredibly tough levels of personal accountability. And since we've been achieving our goals of staying quit through sheer toughness, teamwork, and grit...we also have developed a (perhaps unreasonable) expectation that everyone around us should also be as disciplined and strong as we are. Wrong. They are weak, and they are losers because they don't have discipline in their everyday tasks.

Because you are a quitter, you are stronger and have no patience for the weak. There is nothing wrong with that. Embrace the feeling that you are in a way actually "superior" to them because you are conquering something that is so much more significant than anything they could ever face. They will never be as strong as you. Let it go at that.

Controversial, maybe, but's it's the way I felt when I quit alcohol 12 years ago. I look at heavy drinkers and say to myself. Been there, done that, don't want it no more. I look at them and also say...I've graduated beyond that to a higher level of personal conduct, a higher level of personal care for my body and mind, and achieved a determination that has no equal. And that exact same feeling came back 27 days ago when I quit chew. It actually can fuel your quit, and make you even more resolute...
ZillahCowboy.
I think Zillah has a point, you ARE engaged in something tougher and requiring more discipline than many. However that doesn't automatically give us a pass to be asses to others, particularly those close to us. This early in your quit you are going to rage, most do. It is your body and brain's way of dealing with getting cut off a powerful addictive drug. Rage in here, we've all been there and can take it. Practice patience and self-control (same discipline needed to quit) with others as much as possible. It will get easier, much of that rage will go away. However I still have to battle getting pissed when others simply are not trying very hard at whatever they do. Frankly I'm not sure that is a bad thing to have higher expectations, but rarely does it do any good to snap on someone.
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2014, 10:27:00 AM »
Ginet,
Here's my take on this interesting thread. Since we are quit, we are holding ourselves to incredibly tough levels of personal accountability. And since we've been achieving our goals of staying quit through sheer toughness, teamwork, and grit...we also have developed a (perhaps unreasonable) expectation that everyone around us should also be as disciplined and strong as we are. Wrong. They are weak, and they are losers because they don't have discipline in their everyday tasks.

Because you are a quitter, you are stronger and have no patience for the weak. There is nothing wrong with that. Embrace the feeling that you are in a way actually "superior" to them because you are conquering something that is so much more significant than anything they could ever face. They will never be as strong as you. Let it go at that.

Controversial, maybe, but's it's the way I felt when I quit alcohol 12 years ago. I look at heavy drinkers and say to myself. Been there, done that, don't want it no more. I look at them and also say...I've graduated beyond that to a higher level of personal conduct, a higher level of personal care for my body and mind, and achieved a determination that has no equal. And that exact same feeling came back 27 days ago when I quit chew. It actually can fuel your quit, and make you even more resolute...
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2014, 10:16:00 AM »
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I really am not seeing that you are doing anything hugely wrong. You asked for a cup of coffee with the expectation that it will be done correctly and that you will pay for it to be done correctly. When it comes out half assed and the freakin barista aka coffee pourer with a cool name makes it my issue to fix her mess because she obviously is too high of a skilled occupation for her it pisses me off.

As for Wal-Mart you asked for that one a person needs to be on ludes to keep from choking the living shit out of about everyone there.

But really I was poking fun at the above I feel you since I have been quit I find myself not willing to slide things no matter how trivial. I think it may be because I am an asshole or that I know what I have come through with this quit  and followed the KTC rules and I am not willing to cut anyone else slack to get a simple task right.

IDK if it gets better out around 300-400 or I will always be this way....who knows. Point is you are quit and if a few people get bit in the ass along the way too bad. Keep posting +1's.

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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2014, 10:05:00 AM »
I really am not seeing that you are doing anything hugely wrong. You asked for a cup of coffee with the expectation that it will be done correctly and that you will pay for it to be done correctly. When it comes out half assed and the freakin barista aka coffee pourer with a cool name makes it my issue to fix her mess because she obviously is too high of a skilled occupation for her it pisses me off.

As for Wal-Mart you asked for that one a person needs to be on ludes to keep from choking the living shit out of about everyone there.

But really I was poking fun at the above I feel you since I have been quit I find myself not willing to slide things no matter how trivial. I think it may be because I am an asshole or that I know what I have come through with this quit and followed the KTC rules and I am not willing to cut anyone else slack to get a simple task right.

IDK if it gets better out around 300-400 or I will always be this way....who knows. Point is you are quit and if a few people get bit in the ass along the way too bad. Keep posting +1's.

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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2014, 09:54:00 AM »
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You are doing just fine Ginet....it gets better
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I am finding that I have very short fuse with the general public.

Today, the lady handed me my coffee cup and the cup was sticky (from chocolate drizzle) and said "you will probably want to hold the cup with this napkin on it because I couldn't get all of the chocolate off" and SNAP, I'm pissed.  I hand it back to her and tell her, not ask her, for a new clean cup for my coffee.  My husband told me that "we are not THOSE people Ginet" 

Then, I had to stop at Walmart to get 8 things. 8 lousy things. One item was in the cosmetics area and a worker stops me to tell me that I need to pay for that item at the register in the cosmetics department that has now been set up in that section.  WTF????  I asked her to repeat that because I was sure I didn't hear correctly.  Yes, I needed to pay for the item in the cosmetics area.  I handed the item to her, asked her to hold it and I told her I would go get my other 7 items and then come back to pay for all of it. She told me "I'm not set up to ring up other items" to which I SNAPPED the reply "and I am not set up to pay at multiple registers in the same store!"

Wow.  I don't complain about my quit. I got myself into this shit and I get to deal with all of the shit that goes along with my quit.  I am NOT this Asshole of a Person.  What is going on.  I'd like to complain about my attitude!  Irritated.....
Hello Trollop,
I think we all get to snap, true we brought on our craves by starting with nic in the first place. But in certain situations we deserve out snaps. I have snapped at the coffee ladies/men. I remember a time I ordered a large coffee with 3 cream and 2 sugar, pretty simple right. I was given an extra large with 3 cream 2 sugar; I said I ordered a large. I was told so you got an extra large so your getting a deal, that is beside the point. I asked for a large, the girl proceeds to pour the extra large into a large cup, then gives it to me; here now you have a large.
I snapped no your not getting it I ordered a large, large. She doesn't get it, a large. I am sure most people would get it.
It is okay to snap in the right situation.
You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 26 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.

There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. Keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. Nothing in back of you but a smelly good for nothing can of poison. Life is so much better without the poison. Glad to be quit with you.

In time you'll begin dealing with individuals with a better and new you. You'll be surprised with the new you. The new you will handle people and situations better than ever. Give it time ginet. You got this. Quit with you today.
It will take time. Hang in there.

Most people don't even realize they are acting like a jerk... you at least recognize that you have an issue. That is 90% of the battle. Knowing that -- you can take steps to fix it.

Early on, I found that I needed to really concentrate on my behavior around my family and out in public. I had to slow things down and breathe a lot when confronted with stressful scenarios. I also had to count to 10 a lot. Get on the site to vent, or reach out to folks via txt to vent. Try to redirect the steam!

Today at 215 days I still have moments... but that is life. Just never forget that stuffing your face with dip wont fix this. You got to hold your quit and trust us that it will get better with time.

QUit on!
I always had a short fuse, during my first 150 days of quit it was worse than ever. I fought back the angst for that long, then I had one moment where I absolutely lost it and let it out.

I wish I was smart enough to have held it in but I can say since that day, I have not had the angst or the short fuse attached to a whole bundle of explosive.

Like Derk40 stated it does get better. Find some sort of vent outlet for your own good. A good physical activity or perhaps some act of caring for others well beyond the normal routine of kids or family to see if that helps.
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Re: And now on the main stage
« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2014, 09:28:00 AM »
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You are doing just fine Ginet....it gets better
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Quote from: Ginet
I am finding that I have very short fuse with the general public.

Today, the lady handed me my coffee cup and the cup was sticky (from chocolate drizzle) and said "you will probably want to hold the cup with this napkin on it because I couldn't get all of the chocolate off" and SNAP, I'm pissed.  I hand it back to her and tell her, not ask her, for a new clean cup for my coffee.  My husband told me that "we are not THOSE people Ginet" 

Then, I had to stop at Walmart to get 8 things. 8 lousy things. One item was in the cosmetics area and a worker stops me to tell me that I need to pay for that item at the register in the cosmetics department that has now been set up in that section.  WTF????  I asked her to repeat that because I was sure I didn't hear correctly.  Yes, I needed to pay for the item in the cosmetics area.  I handed the item to her, asked her to hold it and I told her I would go get my other 7 items and then come back to pay for all of it. She told me "I'm not set up to ring up other items" to which I SNAPPED the reply "and I am not set up to pay at multiple registers in the same store!"

Wow.  I don't complain about my quit. I got myself into this shit and I get to deal with all of the shit that goes along with my quit.  I am NOT this Asshole of a Person.  What is going on.  I'd like to complain about my attitude!  Irritated.....
Hello Trollop,
I think we all get to snap, true we brought on our craves by starting with nic in the first place. But in certain situations we deserve out snaps. I have snapped at the coffee ladies/men. I remember a time I ordered a large coffee with 3 cream and 2 sugar, pretty simple right. I was given an extra large with 3 cream 2 sugar; I said I ordered a large. I was told so you got an extra large so your getting a deal, that is beside the point. I asked for a large, the girl proceeds to pour the extra large into a large cup, then gives it to me; here now you have a large.
I snapped no your not getting it I ordered a large, large. She doesn't get it, a large. I am sure most people would get it.
It is okay to snap in the right situation.
You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 26 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.

There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. Keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. Nothing in back of you but a smelly good for nothing can of poison. Life is so much better without the poison. Glad to be quit with you.

In time you'll begin dealing with individuals with a better and new you. You'll be surprised with the new you. The new you will handle people and situations better than ever. Give it time ginet. You got this. Quit with you today.
It will take time. Hang in there.

Most people don't even realize they are acting like a jerk... you at least recognize that you have an issue. That is 90% of the battle. Knowing that -- you can take steps to fix it.

Early on, I found that I needed to really concentrate on my behavior around my family and out in public. I had to slow things down and breathe a lot when confronted with stressful scenarios. I also had to count to 10 a lot. Get on the site to vent, or reach out to folks via txt to vent. Try to redirect the steam!

Today at 215 days I still have moments... but that is life. Just never forget that stuffing your face with dip wont fix this. You got to hold your quit and trust us that it will get better with time.

QUit on!
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