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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2014, 08:39:00 PM »
I've run into this Boelker fellow on the Alcohol Slow Down board. You are a bad ass quitter man. Congrats on the 8th floor!

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2014, 08:28:00 PM »
Congrats on 8th floor DB. Keep it up. You are getting pretty good it this quitting thing.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2014, 10:45:00 AM »
Hey Badass! Congrats on 800 incredible days and thank you so very very much for sticking around to help me. It means a shit ton that you do that. Please say hi to the Mrs and hope to see you again real soon.

ps. You might try working out. It really helps with the quit and getting rid of all that flab and stuff.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2014, 12:16:00 PM »
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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2014, 11:15:00 AM »
Happy Birthday brother!
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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2013, 07:02:00 AM »
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Just some random thoughts.

Being the conductor of the HoF train for January 2013 has taught me more than a few things. But some that really stand out are as follow:
1) Nicotine addiction really does know no bounds. There's no one group, geography, demographic, fuck, even gender, that it sticks to. Culturally, yeah, it's more widespread in some areas, but I welcomed a 60+ year old guy in, and tomorrow, a college sophomore.
2) Addiction is addiction. This has got to be the worst there is. Full disclosure: I've done more than my fair share of white powdered drugs in my past. After a while, I think you just get sick if it. You can walk away. After a day or two, or a trigger or two, most people are just done. I've seen alot if people just stop. I've never experienced anything like the clutches if nicotine. I believe in the idea that it is harder to kick than some hard drugs. I fully believe it. Some might say, "You're full of shit. When's the last time you saw someone crying in a dark back alley telling their dealer they'd suck their dick for some dip?" The shit costs $5 and is available every-fucking-where. Make it illegal, only available on the street raising it's price and lowering its availability, and I bet, before long, dip addicts would start emptying their own bank accounts, then resorting to selling shit, then resorting to stealing and selling shit. It's not that far-fetched. If anyone in here, noob, vet, an inbetweener like me thinks for one second that they wouldn't do that to themselves, their friends, family, neighbors...they may be quit, but haven't fully accepted the full meaning of what it means to be an addict. They may label themselves that, but unless you really truly accept what an addict is, and how pathetic and criminal we could be if it wasn't relatively cheap and readily available, then I think that person hasn't burned the pilings and is at risk. I would steal shit after I emptied my own accounts. I can assure you that. Which leads me to my next point.
3) I know that I am a shitty fucking pathetic addict and that I will always be one. I have not barely even begun to forgive myself for all the hours I've wasted of my life. If for no other reason, just that. Avoiding people and places and activities just so I could keep dipping. Sick. Really sick. Forget the money for a minute. Forget the "what if" cancer risk for a minute. Just to have wasted all this fucking time an energy skirting life. Skirting emotion. Learning to deal with the shitty things in life. I never cried when my mother died of lung cancer from 30+ years of a pack a day addiction. I had dip. Learning to better enjoy the good things. I won an award after a trail race once. I couldn't enjoy the awards ceremony because I didn't bring any nicotine gum with me, and dipping was certainly out of the question. Nic fitting and running out of there to get home to get my fix. Classy, huh?
4) I am still fucking pissed. Period.

That's enough for now. See number 4.
hey boelker62, good stuff! good to see you ranting. It's the way to freedom Brother. Keep ranting, keep focused, keep quit.
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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2013, 10:13:00 PM »
Just some random thoughts.

Being the conductor of the HoF train for January 2013 has taught me more than a few things. But some that really stand out are as follow:
1) Nicotine addiction really does know no bounds. There's no one group, culture, demographic, fuck, even gender, that it sticks to. Geographically, yeah, it's more widespread in some areas, but I welcomed a 60+ year old guy in, and tomorrow, a college sophomore.
2) Addiction is addiction. This has got to be the worst there is. Full disclosure: I've done more than my fair share of white powdered drugs in my past. After a while, I think you just get sick if it. You can walk away. After a day or two, or a trigger or two, most people are just done. I've seen alot if people just stop. I've never experienced anything like the clutches of nicotine. I believe in the idea that it is harder to kick than some hard drugs. I fully believe it. Some might say, "You're full of shit. When's the last time you saw someone crying in a dark back alley telling their dealer they'd suck their dick for some dip?" The shit costs $5 and is available every-fucking-where. Make it illegal, only available on the street raising it's price and lowering its availability, and I bet, before long, dip addicts would start emptying their own bank accounts, then resorting to selling shit, then resorting to stealing and selling shit. It's not that far-fetched. If anyone in here, noob, vet, an inbetweener like me thinks for one second that they wouldn't do that to themselves, their friends, family, neighbors...they may be quit, but haven't fully accepted the full meaning of what it means to be an addict. They may label themselves that, but unless you really truly accept what an addict is, and how pathetic and criminal we could be if it wasn't relatively cheap and readily available, then I think that person hasn't burned the pilings and is at risk. I would steal shit after I emptied my own accounts. I can assure you that. Which leads me to my next point.
3) I know that I am a shitty fucking pathetic addict and that I will always be one. I have not barely even begun to forgive myself for all the hours I've wasted of my life. If for no other reason, just that. Avoiding people and places and activities just so I could keep dipping. Sick. Really sick. Forget the money for a minute. Forget the "what if" cancer risk for a minute. Just to have wasted all this fucking time an energy skirting life. Skirting emotion. Learning to deal with the shitty things in life. I never cried when my mother died of lung cancer from 30+ years of a pack a day addiction. I had dip. Learning to better enjoy the good things. I won an award after a trail race once. I couldn't enjoy the awards ceremony because I didn't bring any nicotine gum with me, and dipping was certainly out of the question. Nic fitting and running out of there to get home to get my fix. Classy, huh?
4) I am still fucking pissed. Period.

That's enough for now. See number 4.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2013, 08:30:00 AM »
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Fuck me. I just woke up (2:36AM) from a nasty cave dream. You know what was happening within said dream? Another cave dream... I don't know if that's a doubly bad dream or a half as bad dream because of that other layer of dreaming. Well, now I'm up. I could sure use some PM's from whoever might see this in the morning... I wonder if there are any idiots like me in Chat?
You've got the nic bitch good and pissed. Left her ass for 134 or so days, and she wants you back. You are winning, my friend.

Regarding your last post with the urge to leave the site... it happens to all of us I think... for me it was around day 365... Resist the urge- the nic bitch is watching like a lion, waiting for someone to get separated from the herd... waiting for defenses to go down. Waiting for a momentary lapse.

You've got this.
Dip dreams are just another hurdle many of us have to face. It is the price we must pay for abusing our bodies for many years. I had 2-4 a week for a good long time. I can't tell you when they will go away.....yet. What I can tell you is they lessen in frequency over time and at some point you will find them far more comical than scary.

Keep plugging away bro, you are doing just fine.
ya she's just trying to claw her way back in. desperation really at this point. I didn't have any dip dreams till same time as you. All I can say is thank god they're just dreams. My opinion, they actually make you stronger.
A month back I had a dream I bought a 68-69 camaro. was hauling ass down the road. I woke and it was a dream?, now that sucked...
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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2013, 08:03:00 AM »
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Fuck me. I just woke up (2:36AM) from a nasty cave dream. You know what was happening within said dream? Another cave dream... I don't know if that's a doubly bad dream or a half as bad dream because of that other layer of dreaming. Well, now I'm up. I could sure use some PM's from whoever might see this in the morning... I wonder if there are any idiots like me in Chat?
You've got the nic bitch good and pissed. Left her ass for 134 or so days, and she wants you back. You are winning, my friend.

Regarding your last post with the urge to leave the site... it happens to all of us I think... for me it was around day 365... Resist the urge- the nic bitch is watching like a lion, waiting for someone to get separated from the herd... waiting for defenses to go down. Waiting for a momentary lapse.

You've got this.
Dip dreams are just another hurdle many of us have to face. It is the price we must pay for abusing our bodies for many years. I had 2-4 a week for a good long time. I can't tell you when they will go away.....yet. What I can tell you is they lessen in frequency over time and at some point you will find them far more comical than scary.

Keep plugging away bro, you are doing just fine.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2013, 05:53:00 AM »
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Fuck me. I just woke up (2:36AM) from a nasty cave dream. You know what was happening within said dream? Another cave dream... I don't know if that's a doubly bad dream or a half as bad dream because of that other layer of dreaming. Well, now I'm up. I could sure use some PM's from whoever might see this in the morning... I wonder if there are any idiots like me in Chat?
You've got the nic bitch good and pissed. Left her ass for 134 or so days, and she wants you back. You are winning, my friend.

Regarding your last post with the urge to leave the site... it happens to all of us I think... for me it was around day 365... Resist the urge- the nic bitch is watching like a lion, waiting for someone to get separated from the herd... waiting for defenses to go down. Waiting for a momentary lapse.

You've got this.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2013, 02:40:00 AM »
Fuck me. I just woke up (2:36AM) from a nasty cave dream. You know what was happening within said dream? Another cave dream... I don't know if that's a doubly bad dream or a half as bad dream because of that other layer of dreaming. Well, now I'm up. I could sure use some PM's from whoever might see this in the morning... I wonder if there are any idiots like me in Chat?

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2013, 02:57:00 PM »
"Put a box full of thumbtacks down your shorts and jump on a trampoline with a live badger on your head if it helps." SM

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2013, 01:21:00 PM »
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Yousa Damned stud B...no doubt about it.

Dunno what day you are on but It sounds like yous in funk? Day 125 or so?

It will pass. They always do.� These words are little consolation LOOT knows...keep your head up bro.� We gots your back.
128 today. I have no desire to use. It's relearning how to live that's tough. Using won't fix the problems that have surfaced since I had buried them with nicotine for 19 years. Check out my HoF speech for more, if you have the time.
Yous in Funk. Always hit around 125.

Relearning how to live is hard. Very hard at times. You got any hobbies? Something to occupy your mind?
Post hof funk. Hits everyone I guess. Get small. Remember the basics. Stay occupied. Do what YOU want to do. Personally I got away from the site for a bit. Just kind of chilaxed and remembered why I wanted to quit and how good it actually feels to be doing it.

I had no desire to use either. I too was just getting burned out a bit on re-learning how to live. Eventually the feeling faded and I was like "oh yeah you dumb shit. You are doing the right thing. Its not easy but I feel a hell of a lot better now than I did when I was posioning myself".

125 days is awesome. Take some time to smell the roses and stop worrying about planting more, they really do smell quite beautiful. You've built a hell of a quit garden. Continue to tend it but remember its a labor of love that eventually will require less and less work to maintain. Hang tough bro!
Thanks guys. Day 130. Hobby? Trail running. Here's when I feel normal-good to great:
- In the middle of a trail run, usually the more silent, the better. Not the treadmill.
- When my 70lb. old man pit bull is snoring directly in my ear, it gets my breathing metered.
- The first 5 minutes when I wake up in the morning. Minute 6, that starts on a different story.
- Immediately after crying. That's been four times in 55 days. Maybe I should try that more. Something's eating at me.

There's a small part of me that says to step away from the site, but I've signed up to post to 200, and I am the January HoF train conductor with lcwb96. I take that very seriously. I have met and plan to stay in touch with a bunch of quitters in real life. Maybe my immersion that helped strengthen my quit, is working against me, but I'm flat out scared to step away from the site. I would be scared to even just post each day "Boelker62 - Day XXX" and leave. That just wouldn't be me.

When the first thing I think of each morning is my quit, and my inability to get a satisfying breath, it just gets worse. I feel stuck. I'm a fixer. I'm a problem solver, and it just kills me to not know what the fuck to do to fix me. Can you tell I'm impatient too? I tell my wife all the time to stop and smell the roses, but have a hard time doing so myself.
FWIW I'm on day 147 no nic and I'm a damn mess. Quit looking at porn about 100 days ago. Quit drinking last week thinking maybe I need some clarity. Only thing that's clear to me is I'm one messed up dude. I've been self medicating since I was 18 and that's 25 years avoiding dealing with life's shit. I've got it good too. Good job, nice house, beautiful wife, beautiful kids, yet I sit here thinking FML.

My head is up, and I press on. Post holiday funk, cabin fever, hoping soon one day the feeling will pass. Good to have this place on my side as I can at least know I'm not the only one dealing with this kinda shit. Praying for you and me today to pull through this. In all this I know no substance is going to make this better in the long run, and I ain't going down that road again. Quit with you today.

EDIT - After I typed this I checked my e-mail. I subscribe to a daily devotional and wanted to share it here as it is pretty timely and an answer to my prayer. I hope you can find healing in it as well.

Psalm 88:1-3
Lord, you are the God Who saves me; day and night I cry out to You. May my prayer come before You; turn Your ear to my cry. I am overwhelmed with troubles and my life draws near to death. (NIV)

Thoughts
Now I admit this is not the most cheerful of verses. However, there are days when some of you as well as me feel this way. My soul is full of trouble and I hurt for God to hear me.

When those days come upon us, the best medicine is to go to your knees in prayer to God. The overwhelming feeling of mercy I have felt when I have asked God to heal the hurt has made it easier to get up and the warming my heart has experienced cannot be experienced, but through His Son.

Action Point
Heart felt pain; the kind that hurts to your core is never easy. I promise you that when you bring your pain to God and ask Him to help you to overcome it, He will do it.

Keep your eyes on Him, for He is the strength to get us through any and everything!!!!
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I?m trying to remind myself daily it?s not the absence of conflict that determines whether or not my relationships are healthy. It?s knowing how to handle the conflicts that will arise.

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Re: Intro-Been Here Before
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2013, 08:07:00 PM »
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Yousa Damned stud B...no doubt about it.

Dunno what day you are on but It sounds like yous in funk? Day 125 or so?

It will pass. They always do.� These words are little consolation LOOT knows...keep your head up bro.� We gots your back.
128 today. I have no desire to use. It's relearning how to live that's tough. Using won't fix the problems that have surfaced since I had buried them with nicotine for 19 years. Check out my HoF speech for more, if you have the time.
Yous in Funk. Always hit around 125.

Relearning how to live is hard. Very hard at times. You got any hobbies? Something to occupy your mind?
Post hof funk. Hits everyone I guess. Get small. Remember the basics. Stay occupied. Do what YOU want to do. Personally I got away from the site for a bit. Just kind of chilaxed and remembered why I wanted to quit and how good it actually feels to be doing it.

I had no desire to use either. I too was just getting burned out a bit on re-learning how to live. Eventually the feeling faded and I was like "oh yeah you dumb shit. You are doing the right thing. Its not easy but I feel a hell of a lot better now than I did when I was posioning myself".

125 days is awesome. Take some time to smell the roses and stop worrying about planting more, they really do smell quite beautiful. You've built a hell of a quit garden. Continue to tend it but remember its a labor of love that eventually will require less and less work to maintain. Hang tough bro!
Thanks guys. Day 130. Hobby? Trail running. Here's when I feel normal-good to great:
- In the middle of a trail run, usually the more silent, the better. Not the treadmill.
- When my 70lb. old man pit bull is snoring directly in my ear, it gets my breathing metered.
- The first 5 minutes when I wake up in the morning. Minute 6, that starts on a different story.
- Immediately after crying. That's been four times in 55 days. Maybe I should try that more. Something's eating at me.

There's a small part of me that says to step away from the site, but I've signed up to post to 200, and I am the January HoF train conductor with lcwb96. I take that very seriously. I have met and plan to stay in touch with a bunch of quitters in real life. Maybe my immersion that helped strengthen my quit, is working against me, but I'm flat out scared to step away from the site. I would be scared to even just post each day "Boelker62 - Day XXX" and leave. That just wouldn't be me.

When the first thing I think of each morning is my quit, and my inability to get a satisfying breath, it just gets worse. I feel stuck. I'm a fixer. I'm a problem solver, and it just kills me to not know what the fuck to do to fix me. Can you tell I'm impatient too? I tell my wife all the time to stop and smell the roses, but have a hard time doing so myself.
152? 4 me - déjà-vu, I felt the same way. you're definitely in a funk, as I was at the same time. That one for me lasted almost 2 weeks. didn't feel better till the high 140's. I just felt like something wasn't right, we all no this feeling. anyway it did go away. during that time I posted and left. I now know to help my funks I need a little distance from the site to get through it. I still post, but that's it. After I start feeling better I get involved again. Main thing is to post.
I was thinking - when I brush my teeth I don't think about cavities. don't think about anything just brush. soon posting will be the same. sometimes I just post in a morning daze without even thinking, just post. I know that posting won't ruin my day, so why not.. you'll always look for an excuse when not feeling good. but it's simply a funk, and thank god they do go away... :)
LOOT's been there too bro. Finding no satisfaction in life...at any level...and wanting to blame the very thing you feel is giving you life.

There is no magic bullet to pull you out. No words to reassure. Just know, you aren't in the fight alone. People care. Strangers would shoulder the burden for you if they could...

It'll pass friend. Take solace.
So I reviewed my intro for a similar time into my quit.. I found this entry.........




Ok. Looking for some feedback.

I have not had craves since early in my quit. However, I have had three bouts of depression in the 40/50s, 70/80s and 110s. It has wrecked my running. I am running the Boston this year which is supposed to be a real treat for a runner. I am fatter and I am out of shape because I have not been motivated. My training has sucked. I get depressed and sit at home. Probably why I am on this damn site too much. It does help though.

When is this going to end? Advice?






Well it ended. I no longer deal with this type of stuff. Sometimes quitting has its own pace. You just have to take the suck when it comes. You simply can't "problem solve it"

This has always worked for me on shitty days...
Quit today. The body will adjust. The psyche will adjust. You will gradually and often unnoticeably reinvent what it is to be you. You shall be restored one day at a time.