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Re: I'm back
« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2012, 11:22:00 AM »
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The little blue engine looked up at the hill.
His light was weak, his whistle was shrill.
He was tired and small, and the hill was tall,
And his face blushed red as he softly said,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

So he started up with a chug and a strain,
And he puffed and pulled with might and main.
And slowly he climbed, a foot at a time,
And his engine coughed as he whispered soft,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

With a squeak and a creak and a toot and a sigh,
With an extra hope and an extra try,
He would not stop — now he neared the top —
And strong and proud he cried out loud,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!”

He was almost there, when — CRASH! SMASH! BASH!
He slid down and mashed into engine hash
On the rocks belowÂ… which goes to show
If the track is tough and the hill is rough,
THINKING you can just ainÂ’t enough!
Written by Shel Silverstein
Published in “Where the Sidewalk Ends”
Wow - talk about memories. I was a huge Silverstein fan and had most of his books growing up.

Amazing how fitting this is to the quit.
Good for me to read. Thanks.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
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The little blue engine looked up at the hill.
His light was weak, his whistle was shrill.
He was tired and small, and the hill was tall,
And his face blushed red as he softly said,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

So he started up with a chug and a strain,
And he puffed and pulled with might and main.
And slowly he climbed, a foot at a time,
And his engine coughed as he whispered soft,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

With a squeak and a creak and a toot and a sigh,
With an extra hope and an extra try,
He would not stop — now he neared the top —
And strong and proud he cried out loud,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!”

He was almost there, when — CRASH! SMASH! BASH!
He slid down and mashed into engine hash
On the rocks belowÂ… which goes to show
If the track is tough and the hill is rough,
THINKING you can just ainÂ’t enough!
Written by Shel Silverstein
Published in “Where the Sidewalk Ends”
Wow - talk about memories. I was a huge Silverstein fan and had most of his books growing up.

Amazing how fitting this is to the quit.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2012, 09:41:00 AM »
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The little blue engine looked up at the hill.
His light was weak, his whistle was shrill.
He was tired and small, and the hill was tall,
And his face blushed red as he softly said,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

So he started up with a chug and a strain,
And he puffed and pulled with might and main.
And slowly he climbed, a foot at a time,
And his engine coughed as he whispered soft,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.”

With a squeak and a creak and a toot and a sigh,
With an extra hope and an extra try,
He would not stop — now he neared the top —
And strong and proud he cried out loud,
“I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!”

He was almost there, when — CRASH! SMASH! BASH!
He slid down and mashed into engine hash
On the rocks belowÂ… which goes to show
If the track is tough and the hill is rough,
THINKING you can just ainÂ’t enough!
Written by Shel Silverstein
Published in “Where the Sidewalk Ends”
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2012, 06:24:00 PM »
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So, this is 6 months quit...

I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be.  We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday.  We've practiced it for close to 200 days now.  Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.

It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007.  I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage.  I didn't cave right away.  I was "quit"!

In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts.  It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit.  The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured. 

I never planned caved.  I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend.  It was that simple.  No warning lights went off.  I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while.  I said "That sounds good" and I was off.  I didn't feel bad afterwards either.  It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.

I did not think about it again for about a week.  Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.

The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.

Scott....you're the man.  You used to chew all the time.  Not anymore.  Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now.  It's true.  You can't get re-addicted with just one.  In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now.  Just don't buy a can...

So I did. 

Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again.  Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...

Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time.  Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer?  Just buy a can and toss it afterwards.  Kara will never know...

So I did.

I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around).  I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so.  At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car.  Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.

Until one day...

Scott...Are you really going to waste that?  You have a good $3.00 worth of chew.  You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends.  That's just being thrifty, man.  You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....

So I did.

I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though).  Tax season sucks.  You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it.  I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof.  One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.

Scott...I can relax you.  You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return.  I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again.  As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine.  That's how you can stay control of me, ok?

So I did.

By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could.  I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes".  When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal. 

I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted.  Nope...I was in control.

Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.

I didn't care anymore.  I liked chewing.  It relaxed me.  It made me a better worker.  It took the edge off.  And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.

My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor.  I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor.  I missed that day.  She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up.  She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her.  I told her I started chewing again.  It felt great to be free.

She was pissed.

I didn't care.  I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday.  No fucking hiding it.  No pretending that I'm quit.  Just cancer weed all day long.

It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete.  It wasn't overnight.  It was a series of compromises I made with myself.  I never craved initially.  I never thought about the negative consequences or the board.  It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew.  I knew the path I was on.

I am 184 days quit today.  I have yet to miss a roll call. 

That was my promise to myself when I returned.  I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll.  I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name.  I forgot.

I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again.  There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state.  I can run around with my boys.  I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old.  I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team.  I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife.  My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating.  I don't wake up with that shit on my face.  My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain.  Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.

I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom.  There are no compromises on that.  A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies.  The rules are simple:

(1)  Post roll.
(2)  Stay quit.
(3)  Repeat.

Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there.  If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"?    How long until you start skipping step 2?  850 days? 

Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
This may be dated, but is one of the most heartfelt, kickass wake up calls I've seen on the site. Thanks, WP, for being so candid on this. I'm going through a rough patch (Day 30 here) right now and it seems like you have had similar bouts in your journey(s).

Also, my shitty replies on your thread around Feb 29 -- call that quit rage. What an ass, my apologies.

--Russ
sent you a pm Russ.....

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »
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So, this is 6 months quit...

I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.

It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!

In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.

I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.

I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.

The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.

Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...

So I did.

Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...

Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...

So I did.

I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.

Until one day...

Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....

So I did.

I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.

Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?

So I did.

By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.

I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.

Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.

I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.

My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.

She was pissed.

I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.

It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.

I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.

That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.

I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.

I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:

(1) Post roll.
(2) Stay quit.
(3) Repeat.

Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"? How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?

Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
This may be dated, but is one of the most heartfelt, kickass wake up calls I've seen on the site. Thanks, WP, for being so candid on this. I'm going through a rough patch (Day 30 here) right now and it seems like you have had similar bouts in your journey(s).

Also, my shitty replies on your thread around Feb 29 -- call that quit rage. What an ass, my apologies.

--Russ

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »
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Okay colonel and Phil4.  Of course this applies to the rest of you Bastards if you want to join in.  I modified the spreadsheet to indicate whether you hit your personal goal or not.  Keeping in mind the the QUIT is our true and undeniable goal, make sure you post your quit every day.  I will strike a green that you made your promis for the day.  If you hit your personal goal then indicate on your roll call.  I will make the cell indicate blue.  Blue means not only did you post roll but hit your personal goal as well.

I usually look at the last roll call of the day when I update the spreadsheet, so try to make your comment by then by editing your roll or PM me. 
As always if I miss or make and erro let me know!

Go Basterds!!!!
And once again eaf deserves our gratitude for taking care of the spread sheet and just by being his general bad ass self. You rock eaf, thanks for every thing.
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Wow, eaf. This is way far above and beyond, man! A new level of accountability that I didn't count on! Amazing how motivated you get when others are watching. We need some other basterds need to get in on this action besides me and Colonel. Set a goal and post your score everyday (in addition to quit, of course). I'll use this 2nd level of roll to post status of my fatness reduction efforts. Mission: Lean  Mean Basterd.

Thanks again, eaf.

Phil
That sounds like a fucking challenge man.

(1) I will take 30 minutes a day to play with my boys individually (at least) without a tv, phone, etc. to distract me.

(2) I will run at least a mile every day.

(3) I will take 10 minutes to have a conversation with my wife telling her how much she means to me.

(4) I will text one quit brother out of the blue just to say hi, and see how he's doing.

I like where this is going.
Damn you guys are killing it. That's some awesome shit. Made my day.

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #85 on: March 08, 2012, 10:25:00 PM »
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Okay colonel and Phil4.  Of course this applies to the rest of you Bastards if you want to join in.  I modified the spreadsheet to indicate whether you hit your personal goal or not.  Keeping in mind the the QUIT is our true and undeniable goal, make sure you post your quit every day.  I will strike a green that you made your promis for the day.  If you hit your personal goal then indicate on your roll call.  I will make the cell indicate blue.  Blue means not only did you post roll but hit your personal goal as well.

I usually look at the last roll call of the day when I update the spreadsheet, so try to make your comment by then by editing your roll or PM me. 
As always if I miss or make and erro let me know!

Go Basterds!!!!
And once again eaf deserves our gratitude for taking care of the spread sheet and just by being his general bad ass self. You rock eaf, thanks for every thing.
X2
Wow, eaf. This is way far above and beyond, man! A new level of accountability that I didn't count on! Amazing how motivated you get when others are watching. We need some other basterds need to get in on this action besides me and Colonel. Set a goal and post your score everyday (in addition to quit, of course). I'll use this 2nd level of roll to post status of my fatness reduction efforts. Mission: Lean  Mean Basterd.

Thanks again, eaf.

Phil
That sounds like a fucking challenge man.

(1) I will take 30 minutes a day to play with my boys individually (at least) without a tv, phone, etc. to distract me.

(2) I will run at least a mile every day.

(3) I will take 10 minutes to have a conversation with my wife telling her how much she means to me.

(4) I will text one quit brother out of the blue just to say hi, and see how he's doing.

I like where this is going.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2012, 09:35:00 PM »
Comback Kid-Wake the Dead
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This is our city of the dead
Another life holds its weary head
We hope, we try, we live, survive
Counting days, trying to get by
Waiting for the calling
Anticipation in the air
We hope and dream of difference
City sleeping, unaware

Break the silence, WAKE THE DEAD
Running through these streets alone
I'll kick and scream, let's break this hold
Cuz I swear, and this won't render useless
I promise you, we've come this far
And I'm not stopping, I'm not stopping now
I'm not hiding in shadows
Wake up
Send out this message, it's clear

2x
You said, you said, you said
this time was gonna be different
WAKE UP THE DEAD

Coming alive
Something stirs inside
This isn't over yet
Shake off the dirt
Swallow regret
Stop living under the weight
Living under the weight of regret
Your regrets
DON'T LOSE HOPE
Your regrets
DON'T LOSE HOPE
Don't let it happen to you
DON'T LOSE HOPE
Which side are you gonna choose?
Cuz I believe, I believe it's in you.
RISE!

4x
We said, we said, we said
This time was gonna be different
WAKE UP THE DEAD
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2012, 09:14:00 AM »
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Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Tyrant?

Once upon a time, there were 3 little pigs that escaped the clutches of a maniacal tyrant.  Upon casting their chains away, they set up camp a few towns over.

Soon, plans were being made for a more permanent housing solution.  While drafting these plans, a group of pigs approached them.  It turned out these pigs had escaped earlier and had been living "free" for quite a while.

The first pig was lazy.  He was content that he had escaped slavery, and believed that he was free.  He was loud, and he missed the friends he made .  He chose to build his home from straw.  Straw would provide adequate warmth and cover from the elements, and it could be done quickly.  The pig was convinced that this house could be built near his once prison, and it was unfathomable that he could be enslaved again.  He could see his friends everyday.  He wanted to forget every bad memory he had of being a slave, and pushed these memories aside with ease.  He cherished the good memories however.

The other refugees warned him that he was being foolish, and he refused to listen.

The maniacal tyrant saw him squatting near the prison, laughed, knocked over the grass hut with his bare hands, and the little pig was enslaved by nightfall.

The second pig was smart enough to realize that he needed to take some extra precautions to avoid being recaptured.  He had watched as the first pig failed miserably, and understood his mistakes.  He had listened to the others to an extent, and decided to build his house of sticks and hide it deep in the forest where the tyrant couldn't find it with the other refugees.   He knew the tyrant would be looking for him, and he was proud that he had outsmarted him. 

However, after a few weeks of hiding, this pig became restless.  He began venturing out and realizing how great freedom was.  He began testing the limits of his freedom, and soon enough, he was sneaking back to his old prison to see the first pig.  The other pigs all told him he was being foolish, yet he continued his ways thinking he was free.  The other pigs told him that he needed to fortify this building just in case the tyrant comes knocking.  He scoffed.  They offered give him the tools necessary to do it.  He ignored them.

One night, on one of these runs, the tyrant found him.  He chased the second pig back to his hidden house.  The second pig went inside, locked the door, and hid.  The sticks used to build the house began snapping.  As each small stick snapped, the house became weaker and weaker. Quickly, the tyrant had broken through and the second pig was enslaved again.

The third pig built a brick house alongside the other refugees' site. The houses were connected like a honeycomb. The third pig made many great friends here, and was given the tools and the plan to make his house stronger.  Individually, this house could withstand the tyrant for years.  But the tyrant could eventually break through.  Collectively, these houses was impenetrable.

The tyrant would circle the walls of this community whispering lies and trying to coax out the weak.  Occasionally, he would test his strength on a wall.  But one of the rules of this community was to inspect your house daily.  Those that did had time to repair any cracks.  Those that didn't found the tyrant upon them.

The third little pig lived a long happy life.  He was mindful of the lurking tyrant outside, and never forgot he was there.  He was happy.
I hate to be mean, but did anyone really read this whole thing?
I did... too bad some will not!!!
Okay, after reading this even for the second time through, I still come to the same conclusion:

Gay.

Sorry, Colonel.

--Russ
No need to apologize... I wasn't bashing you by the way.

Was referring more to those that will never take the opportunity to read anything on this site (which is obviously not you).

Those that will only pop in long enough to post roll with name and count only, then leave without browsing the other resources.

When you tack on some more days... analogies like this one will make more sense to you... it still might be ghey in some aspects, but you'll see deeper into the philosophy behind it.

Hey WP, I got an idea... next time use Little Red Riding Hood. 'crackup'

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #82 on: February 29, 2012, 11:43:00 PM »
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Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Tyrant?

Once upon a time, there were 3 little pigs that escaped the clutches of a maniacal tyrant.  Upon casting their chains away, they set up camp a few towns over.

Soon, plans were being made for a more permanent housing solution.  While drafting these plans, a group of pigs approached them.  It turned out these pigs had escaped earlier and had been living "free" for quite a while.

The first pig was lazy.  He was content that he had escaped slavery, and believed that he was free.  He was loud, and he missed the friends he made .  He chose to build his home from straw.  Straw would provide adequate warmth and cover from the elements, and it could be done quickly.  The pig was convinced that this house could be built near his once prison, and it was unfathomable that he could be enslaved again.  He could see his friends everyday.  He wanted to forget every bad memory he had of being a slave, and pushed these memories aside with ease.  He cherished the good memories however.

The other refugees warned him that he was being foolish, and he refused to listen.

The maniacal tyrant saw him squatting near the prison, laughed, knocked over the grass hut with his bare hands, and the little pig was enslaved by nightfall.

The second pig was smart enough to realize that he needed to take some extra precautions to avoid being recaptured.  He had watched as the first pig failed miserably, and understood his mistakes.  He had listened to the others to an extent, and decided to build his house of sticks and hide it deep in the forest where the tyrant couldn't find it with the other refugees.   He knew the tyrant would be looking for him, and he was proud that he had outsmarted him. 

However, after a few weeks of hiding, this pig became restless.  He began venturing out and realizing how great freedom was.  He began testing the limits of his freedom, and soon enough, he was sneaking back to his old prison to see the first pig.  The other pigs all told him he was being foolish, yet he continued his ways thinking he was free.  The other pigs told him that he needed to fortify this building just in case the tyrant comes knocking.  He scoffed.  They offered give him the tools necessary to do it.  He ignored them.

One night, on one of these runs, the tyrant found him.  He chased the second pig back to his hidden house.  The second pig went inside, locked the door, and hid.  The sticks used to build the house began snapping.  As each small stick snapped, the house became weaker and weaker. Quickly, the tyrant had broken through and the second pig was enslaved again.

The third pig built a brick house alongside the other refugees' site. The houses were connected like a honeycomb. The third pig made many great friends here, and was given the tools and the plan to make his house stronger.  Individually, this house could withstand the tyrant for years.  But the tyrant could eventually break through.  Collectively, these houses was impenetrable.

The tyrant would circle the walls of this community whispering lies and trying to coax out the weak.  Occasionally, he would test his strength on a wall.  But one of the rules of this community was to inspect your house daily.  Those that did had time to repair any cracks.  Those that didn't found the tyrant upon them.

The third little pig lived a long happy life.  He was mindful of the lurking tyrant outside, and never forgot he was there.  He was happy.
I hate to be mean, but did anyone really read this whole thing?
I did... too bad some will not!!!
Okay, after reading this even for the second time through, I still come to the same conclusion:

Gay.

Sorry, Colonel.

--Russ

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #81 on: February 29, 2012, 11:12:00 PM »
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Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Tyrant?

Once upon a time, there were 3 little pigs that escaped the clutches of a maniacal tyrant.  Upon casting their chains away, they set up camp a few towns over.

Soon, plans were being made for a more permanent housing solution.  While drafting these plans, a group of pigs approached them.  It turned out these pigs had escaped earlier and had been living "free" for quite a while.

The first pig was lazy.  He was content that he had escaped slavery, and believed that he was free.  He was loud, and he missed the friends he made .  He chose to build his home from straw.  Straw would provide adequate warmth and cover from the elements, and it could be done quickly.  The pig was convinced that this house could be built near his once prison, and it was unfathomable that he could be enslaved again.  He could see his friends everyday.  He wanted to forget every bad memory he had of being a slave, and pushed these memories aside with ease.  He cherished the good memories however.

The other refugees warned him that he was being foolish, and he refused to listen.

The maniacal tyrant saw him squatting near the prison, laughed, knocked over the grass hut with his bare hands, and the little pig was enslaved by nightfall.

The second pig was smart enough to realize that he needed to take some extra precautions to avoid being recaptured.  He had watched as the first pig failed miserably, and understood his mistakes.  He had listened to the others to an extent, and decided to build his house of sticks and hide it deep in the forest where the tyrant couldn't find it with the other refugees.  He knew the tyrant would be looking for him, and he was proud that he had outsmarted him. 

However, after a few weeks of hiding, this pig became restless.  He began venturing out and realizing how great freedom was.  He began testing the limits of his freedom, and soon enough, he was sneaking back to his old prison to see the first pig.  The other pigs all told him he was being foolish, yet he continued his ways thinking he was free.  The other pigs told him that he needed to fortify this building just in case the tyrant comes knocking.  He scoffed.  They offered give him the tools necessary to do it.  He ignored them.

One night, on one of these runs, the tyrant found him.  He chased the second pig back to his hidden house.  The second pig went inside, locked the door, and hid.  The sticks used to build the house began snapping.  As each small stick snapped, the house became weaker and weaker. Quickly, the tyrant had broken through and the second pig was enslaved again.

The third pig built a brick house alongside the other refugees' site. The houses were connected like a honeycomb. The third pig made many great friends here, and was given the tools and the plan to make his house stronger.  Individually, this house could withstand the tyrant for years.  But the tyrant could eventually break through.  Collectively, these houses was impenetrable.

The tyrant would circle the walls of this community whispering lies and trying to coax out the weak.  Occasionally, he would test his strength on a wall.  But one of the rules of this community was to inspect your house daily.  Those that did had time to repair any cracks.  Those that didn't found the tyrant upon them.

The third little pig lived a long happy life.  He was mindful of the lurking tyrant outside, and never forgot he was there.  He was happy.
I hate to be mean, but did anyone really read this whole thing?
I did... too bad some will not!!!

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #80 on: February 29, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
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Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Tyrant?

Once upon a time, there were 3 little pigs that escaped the clutches of a maniacal tyrant. Upon casting their chains away, they set up camp a few towns over.

Soon, plans were being made for a more permanent housing solution. While drafting these plans, a group of pigs approached them. It turned out these pigs had escaped earlier and had been living "free" for quite a while.

The first pig was lazy. He was content that he had escaped slavery, and believed that he was free. He was loud, and he missed the friends he made . He chose to build his home from straw. Straw would provide adequate warmth and cover from the elements, and it could be done quickly. The pig was convinced that this house could be built near his once prison, and it was unfathomable that he could be enslaved again. He could see his friends everyday. He wanted to forget every bad memory he had of being a slave, and pushed these memories aside with ease. He cherished the good memories however.

The other refugees warned him that he was being foolish, and he refused to listen.

The maniacal tyrant saw him squatting near the prison, laughed, knocked over the grass hut with his bare hands, and the little pig was enslaved by nightfall.

The second pig was smart enough to realize that he needed to take some extra precautions to avoid being recaptured. He had watched as the first pig failed miserably, and understood his mistakes. He had listened to the others to an extent, and decided to build his house of sticks and hide it deep in the forest where the tyrant couldn't find it with the other refugees. He knew the tyrant would be looking for him, and he was proud that he had outsmarted him.

However, after a few weeks of hiding, this pig became restless. He began venturing out and realizing how great freedom was. He began testing the limits of his freedom, and soon enough, he was sneaking back to his old prison to see the first pig. The other pigs all told him he was being foolish, yet he continued his ways thinking he was free. The other pigs told him that he needed to fortify this building just in case the tyrant comes knocking. He scoffed. They offered give him the tools necessary to do it. He ignored them.

One night, on one of these runs, the tyrant found him. He chased the second pig back to his hidden house. The second pig went inside, locked the door, and hid. The sticks used to build the house began snapping. As each small stick snapped, the house became weaker and weaker. Quickly, the tyrant had broken through and the second pig was enslaved again.

The third pig built a brick house alongside the other refugees' site. The houses were connected like a honeycomb. The third pig made many great friends here, and was given the tools and the plan to make his house stronger. Individually, this house could withstand the tyrant for years. But the tyrant could eventually break through. Collectively, these houses was impenetrable.

The tyrant would circle the walls of this community whispering lies and trying to coax out the weak. Occasionally, he would test his strength on a wall. But one of the rules of this community was to inspect your house daily. Those that did had time to repair any cracks. Those that didn't found the tyrant upon them.

The third little pig lived a long happy life. He was mindful of the lurking tyrant outside, and never forgot he was there. He was happy.
I hate to be mean, but did anyone really read this whole thing?

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #79 on: February 29, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Tyrant?

Once upon a time, there were 3 little pigs that escaped the clutches of a maniacal tyrant. Upon casting their chains away, they set up camp a few towns over.

Soon, plans were being made for a more permanent housing solution. While drafting these plans, a group of pigs approached them. It turned out these pigs had escaped earlier and had been living "free" for quite a while.

The first pig was lazy. He was content that he had escaped slavery, and believed that he was free. He was loud, and he missed the friends he made . He chose to build his home from straw. Straw would provide adequate warmth and cover from the elements, and it could be done quickly. The pig was convinced that this house could be built near his once prison, and it was unfathomable that he could be enslaved again. He could see his friends everyday. He wanted to forget every bad memory he had of being a slave, and pushed these memories aside with ease. He cherished the good memories however.

The other refugees warned him that he was being foolish, and he refused to listen.

The maniacal tyrant saw him squatting near the prison, laughed, knocked over the grass hut with his bare hands, and the little pig was enslaved by nightfall.

The second pig was smart enough to realize that he needed to take some extra precautions to avoid being recaptured. He had watched as the first pig failed miserably, and understood his mistakes. He had listened to the others to an extent, and decided to build his house of sticks and hide it deep in the forest where the tyrant couldn't find it with the other refugees. He knew the tyrant would be looking for him, and he was proud that he had outsmarted him.

However, after a few weeks of hiding, this pig became restless. He began venturing out and realizing how great freedom was. He began testing the limits of his freedom, and soon enough, he was sneaking back to his old prison to see the first pig. The other pigs all told him he was being foolish, yet he continued his ways thinking he was free. The other pigs told him that he needed to fortify this building just in case the tyrant comes knocking. He scoffed. They offered give him the tools necessary to do it. He ignored them.

One night, on one of these runs, the tyrant found him. He chased the second pig back to his hidden house. The second pig went inside, locked the door, and hid. The sticks used to build the house began snapping. As each small stick snapped, the house became weaker and weaker. Quickly, the tyrant had broken through and the second pig was enslaved again.

The third pig built a brick house alongside the other refugees' site. The houses were connected like a honeycomb. The third pig made many great friends here, and was given the tools and the plan to make his house stronger. Individually, this house could withstand the tyrant for years. But the tyrant could eventually break through. Collectively, these houses was impenetrable.

The tyrant would circle the walls of this community whispering lies and trying to coax out the weak. Occasionally, he would test his strength on a wall. But one of the rules of this community was to inspect your house daily. Those that did had time to repair any cracks. Those that didn't found the tyrant upon them.

The third little pig lived a long happy life. He was mindful of the lurking tyrant outside, and never forgot he was there. He was happy.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »
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The Quitting Pendulum

If life is like a box of chocolates (you'll never know what you're gonna get), then quitting is like a pendulum.  There's difficult times, and there are easy times.  But eventually, you're going to end up resting in a centered position.

A pendulum is a weighted ball at the end of a string and suspended from a centered pivot point.  When pulled in one direction and let go, the ball will swing freely past its center point.  It will travel to the opposite side of this center point, and begin its return.  Due to friction and air resistance, each period becomes shorter until the ball is eventually resting at the center.

Every quit has times in it when quitting is very simple.  You don't have to put much thought into it.  Nicotine is not a part of your life.  You don't need to fight the urge to use because there is no urge.

But there are difficult times as well.  Whether you are 10 days quit or 10,000 days quit, these times will hit you like a wrecking ball.  It seems like the world is out to make you fail.  It seems like nicotine delivery systems are being thrown at you 24/7.  You lie awake at night thinking "Just one won't hurt...".

Imagine that your quit is seperated by this Centered Pole.  The right side is the Easy Quit Side.  The left side is the Difficult Quit Side.  Your quit is suspended from the center.

When you initially quit, you pull your quit way over to the difficult side and let go.  In fact, you can feel it building as you are doing it.  The first few hours make your jaw sore and leave you wondering if you are doing the right thing.  As the poison leaves your body, your body begins to rebel and throw a fit.  This builds up for 3-5 days until you don't think you can stand it another minute.

But then you let go.

The quit starts falling back towards the centered point, and life is better.  It's still not good, and quitting is not the easiest.  It's just better.

And then it gets to the good side.

Life is great.  You never knew that life is this good without nicotine.  You laugh at users still lying to themselves, and feel impenitrable.  Your quit is strong, and you can shrug off even the most blatant attempts of others to get you to use again.

This period is as good as the preceding bad.

But then it starts to become harder again.

The quit starts its return trip back.  Quitting takes a few more thoughts.  And then a few more.  And then you are back at the difficult side again.

Your quit can continue on for the rest of your life if connected to this point (aka KTC).  Your quit will eventually lose steam and slow down.  It will hang centered between the two worlds.  It is not difficult to stay quit, but it is not easy as well.  A simple acknowledgement usually keeps this ball resting here. 

Unfortunately, sometimes you bump the machine and the ball swings for a moment.  It's not something to worry about it.  It will come to rest again.  This can happen during any point of your quit, but it seems to be worse once you are centered.
mmmmm, das sum goo shit, rite der!
Thanks for writing that.
Good stuff WP

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2012, 02:16:00 PM »
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The Quitting Pendulum

If life is like a box of chocolates (you'll never know what you're gonna get), then quitting is like a pendulum.  There's difficult times, and there are easy times.  But eventually, you're going to end up resting in a centered position.

A pendulum is a weighted ball at the end of a string and suspended from a centered pivot point.  When pulled in one direction and let go, the ball will swing freely past its center point.  It will travel to the opposite side of this center point, and begin its return.  Due to friction and air resistance, each period becomes shorter until the ball is eventually resting at the center.

Every quit has times in it when quitting is very simple.  You don't have to put much thought into it.  Nicotine is not a part of your life.  You don't need to fight the urge to use because there is no urge.

But there are difficult times as well.  Whether you are 10 days quit or 10,000 days quit, these times will hit you like a wrecking ball.  It seems like the world is out to make you fail.  It seems like nicotine delivery systems are being thrown at you 24/7.  You lie awake at night thinking "Just one won't hurt...".

Imagine that your quit is seperated by this Centered Pole.  The right side is the Easy Quit Side.  The left side is the Difficult Quit Side.  Your quit is suspended from the center.

When you initially quit, you pull your quit way over to the difficult side and let go.  In fact, you can feel it building as you are doing it.  The first few hours make your jaw sore and leave you wondering if you are doing the right thing.  As the poison leaves your body, your body begins to rebel and throw a fit.  This builds up for 3-5 days until you don't think you can stand it another minute.

But then you let go.

The quit starts falling back towards the centered point, and life is better.  It's still not good, and quitting is not the easiest.  It's just better.

And then it gets to the good side.

Life is great.  You never knew that life is this good without nicotine.  You laugh at users still lying to themselves, and feel impenitrable.  Your quit is strong, and you can shrug off even the most blatant attempts of others to get you to use again.

This period is as good as the preceding bad.

But then it starts to become harder again.

The quit starts its return trip back.  Quitting takes a few more thoughts.  And then a few more.  And then you are back at the difficult side again.

Your quit can continue on for the rest of your life if connected to this point (aka KTC).  Your quit will eventually lose steam and slow down.  It will hang centered between the two worlds.  It is not difficult to stay quit, but it is not easy as well.  A simple acknowledgement usually keeps this ball resting here. 

Unfortunately, sometimes you bump the machine and the ball swings for a moment.  It's not something to worry about it.  It will come to rest again.  This can happen during any point of your quit, but it seems to be worse once you are centered.
mmmmm, das sum goo shit, rite der!
Thanks for writing that.