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[Diesel2112]

For the past 15 years every time my eye itched I could not scratch/rub it with my right thumb or pointer finger, even though that was my bodies natural reaction to deal with this minor problem. Why? Because they were always kodiak stained and would burn the hell out if my eye. Today as I drove down the road my right eye itched, so I rubbed it. With my right pointer finger. And it did not burn.

I'm struggling here on day 10 of quit, and looking for every little bit of progress. I am considering this a minor victory! LOL.

[Diesel2112]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine.  I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

I have had panic attacks before.. well let me rephrase. I had a panic attack about 4 years ago. I was driving home from work late at night in the rain on a road in the middle of nowhere. Of course I had a chew in and all these stupid thoughts were running into my head about what would happen if i were to crash. I felt like I needed to take a deep breath and I couldn't quite get it. sooooo I pulled over and flipped the fuck out in my car. PUnching the windows and it felt like someone had a pillow over my face while sitting on my chest. I couldn't even leave my house for 3 days. Only reason I did was to go to doc. He said I was fine. I finally made it back to work and on the way home I was shaking and sweating and feeling like I was about to flip again. I stopped at e.r . got tested all good. they gave me ativan ( which I still have a script for) . It helps but I still always have that thought in the back of my head. What if it happens again... what if I can't get to a hospital... WHAT IF. Most days I am good and others I am not. I have been quit for 15 days and have noticed that I am having a lot more better days.

Not sure if this story helps any but it is my true story. I hope to continue to get better and you sir are in my thoughts and prayers as we both continue to fight the nic bitch and anxiety. Take it a day at a time brother! See you in the HOF

I had panic attacks quite often early in my quit. I had convinced myself I had every major disease there is and I would surely die at any moment. I like you had a tough time catching my breath, and all the other symptoms of anxiety. I went to the doctor so many times in my first 45 days or so that she finally told me to stop coming in. I had heart tests, lung tests, physicals, cancer screenings, you name it and I got tested for it.

I am now well into my quit and things are better. I still get the onset of a panic attack every now and then but I have learned to diffuse them. Some things I did to help early on: Work up a good sweat,walk, workout, whatever kills craves and anxiety. Meditate, it relaxes you and helps clear your mind. Instead of all the negative mind chatter replace it with positive thoughts.

Panic attacks can only happen when you create fear and doubt in your mind. Instead of wondering if or when the next attack may happen replace that thought with. I am done with panic attacks, my body is fine and I no longer fear them and I am free to enjoy life.

Keep fighting! It is worth it!!

STAY QUIT
Greg

Thanks guys. On day 10, what a motherfucker this is. Hope it gets better soon. I miss "me".

[Greg5280]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

I have had panic attacks before.. well let me rephrase. I had a panic attack about 4 years ago. I was driving home from work late at night in the rain on a road in the middle of nowhere. Of course I had a chew in and all these stupid thoughts were running into my head about what would happen if i were to crash. I felt like I needed to take a deep breath and I couldn't quite get it. sooooo I pulled over and flipped the fuck out in my car. PUnching the windows and it felt like someone had a pillow over my face while sitting on my chest. I couldn't even leave my house for 3 days. Only reason I did was to go to doc. He said I was fine. I finally made it back to work and on the way home I was shaking and sweating and feeling like I was about to flip again. I stopped at e.r . got tested all good. they gave me ativan ( which I still have a script for) . It helps but I still always have that thought in the back of my head. What if it happens again... what if I can't get to a hospital... WHAT IF. Most days I am good and others I am not. I have been quit for 15 days and have noticed that I am having a lot more better days.

Not sure if this story helps any but it is my true story. I hope to continue to get better and you sir are in my thoughts and prayers as we both continue to fight the nic bitch and anxiety. Take it a day at a time brother! See you in the HOF

I had panic attacks quite often early in my quit. I had convinced myself I had every major disease there is and I would surely die at any moment. I like you had a tough time catching my breath, and all the other symptoms of anxiety. I went to the doctor so many times in my first 45 days or so that she finally told me to stop coming in. I had heart tests, lung tests, physicals, cancer screenings, you name it and I got tested for it.

I am now well into my quit and things are better. I still get the onset of a panic attack every now and then but I have learned to diffuse them. Some things I did to help early on: Work up a good sweat,walk, workout, whatever kills craves and anxiety. Meditate, it relaxes you and helps clear your mind. Instead of all the negative mind chatter replace it with positive thoughts.

Panic attacks can only happen when you create fear and doubt in your mind. Instead of wondering if or when the next attack may happen replace that thought with. I am done with panic attacks, my body is fine and I no longer fear them and I am free to enjoy life.

Keep fighting! It is worth it!!

STAY QUIT
Greg

[FosterChild]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

I have had panic attacks before.. well let me rephrase. I had a panic attack about 4 years ago. I was driving home from work late at night in the rain on a road in the middle of nowhere. Of course I had a chew in and all these stupid thoughts were running into my head about what would happen if i were to crash. I felt like I needed to take a deep breath and I couldn't quite get it. sooooo I pulled over and flipped the fuck out in my car. PUnching the windows and it felt like someone had a pillow over my face while sitting on my chest. I couldn't even leave my house for 3 days. Only reason I did was to go to doc. He said I was fine. I finally made it back to work and on the way home I was shaking and sweating and feeling like I was about to flip again. I stopped at e.r . got tested all good. they gave me ativan ( which I still have a script for) . It helps but I still always have that thought in the back of my head. What if it happens again... what if I can't get to a hospital... WHAT IF. Most days I am good and others I am not. I have been quit for 15 days and have noticed that I am having a lot more better days.

Not sure if this story helps any but it is my true story. I hope to continue to get better and you sir are in my thoughts and prayers as we both continue to fight the nic bitch and anxiety. Take it a day at a time brother! See you in the HOF

[carumba10]

Good for you for seeing the doctor. I am glad you know what it is.

Every potential medical problem you have isn't covered by the cliche " that's the poison leaving your body"

[dgonseaux]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

My cousin had panic attacks a while back. I can't fully understand them because I've never been there, but I do firmly believe that nicotine will NOT help them in any way. Don't give in, you got this man.

Fuck no Im not giving in. Chew is the reason I fucking started with the attacks to begin with. Thought I had cancer when I had a sore on my lip. Luckily it was nothing, but I do believe it was a sign to quit. But still that episode freaked me the fuck out!!!! I think I just have to man up. I feel fine now. I took a big dump, washed my face with cold water, drank a half a coke, got a fruit smoothie a whole grain muffi and an apple and am feeling good now. I have to dwell in how GOOD I feel now, instead of whallowing in how BAD I feel. I gotta get my mental game sharpe to fight both these fucking demons off. Aint easy but I can do it. Sorry for venting...

Sorry for venting?!?!? HELL NO!!!

This is the place to vent. This is where you come to let it all go and get it off your shoulders. This thread is yours to look back on in the future to see how far you have come and to remember how bad it was. It will remind you why you quit, why you won't dip again, and how damned shitty your life was with nicotine.

Use this site, it's chat, and the members that will become your friends. We are still here because we remember what it was like. We know what you're going through. You can vent, bitch, and call us dirty names and we won't hate you for it.

Life will seem like it can't get any worse sometimes, but it does. You just have to take a step back and look at the big picture. Like you said, focus on the good that surrounds this stage in life, not the bad that might be in the moment.

You sir, are a fine quitter. You keep it up, and keep your ass in here bitching whenever you need to.

[Diesel2112]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

My cousin had panic attacks a while back. I can't fully understand them because I've never been there, but I do firmly believe that nicotine will NOT help them in any way. Don't give in, you got this man.

Fuck no Im not giving in. Chew is the reason I fucking started with the attacks to begin with. Thought I had cancer when I had a sore on my lip. Luckily it was nothing, but I do believe it was a sign to quit. But still that episode freaked me the fuck out!!!! I think I just have to man up. I feel fine now. I took a big dump, washed my face with cold water, drank a half a coke, got a fruit smoothie a whole grain muffi and an apple and am feeling good now. I have to dwell in how GOOD I feel now, instead of whallowing in how BAD I feel. I gotta get my mental game sharpe to fight both these fucking demons off. Aint easy but I can do it. Sorry for venting...

[dgonseaux]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

My cousin had panic attacks a while back. I can't fully understand them because I've never been there, but I do firmly believe that nicotine will NOT help them in any way. Don't give in, you got this man.

[Diesel2112]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

Thanks guys. The bitch of all this is I was in the hospital for panic attacks which mask the symptoms of a heart troubles. They tested my heart every possible way and it was fine. Problem was when I got out of the hospital I kept thinking I was going to have more panic attacks and went back in. Again they tested my heart every which way til Sunday and it was fine. I think I'm still a bit nervous from the panic attack thing, plus quitting...it's just fucking my shit up. What a pain in the dick this all is. As if quitting wasn't enough I gotta deal with this panic attack bullshit. FML.

[dgonseaux]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT!  I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something.  I also have a pretty bad stomach ache.  I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon.  Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away.  It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on?  It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

I'd go get that one checked out. I had what felt like the flu that I fully believe to be nic related but never had dull pain. I'm not an expert but that sounds like one of the symptoms to heart related stuff.

[Seth]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT! I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something. I also have a pretty bad stomach ache. I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon. Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away. It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on? It's really pissing me off.

There is no real 'normal,' but what you are talking about is not uncommon.

Yes, it's just something you have to grind through. It may last a few days, it may last a few weeks. But this is just a side effect of poison leaving your body. It means you're healing.

If you're concerned about it, by all means, go see the doc. I was an absolute wreck when I quit, and going to the doctor was very good for my mental well being. Remember this feeling, and hold on to your anger. It will serve you well, and may make the difference at some point in your quit.

You're winning.

[GR8WHITEBUFFALO]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT! I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something. I also have a pretty bad stomach ache. I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon. Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away. It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on? It's really pissing me off.

Yes. Go to the doctor and have it checked out.

[Diesel2112]

Im on day 9 of quit, but every morning I start off feeling like complete SHIT! I get a good nights sleep but when I wake up I feel like I have smoked a pack of cigarettes or like somebody punched me in the chest, or almost like I have asthma or something. I also have a pretty bad stomach ache. I force myself to eat breakfast, drive my ass to work and feel like total shit til about noon. Then the rest of the day I seem to feel pretty good, but that dull chest pain really never seems to go away. It might lessen a little bit but it always seems to be there. (maybe a mental thing)

I guess what I am asking is if this is "normal"? have others experienced this? and just another thing I have to grind through? or maybe should I go to the doctor and see if something else is going on? It's really pissing me off.

[dgonseaux]

I didn't slow down on caffeine at all when I first quit so I can't really say if it helped or not. I'm not much of a soda drinker, just 5-10 cups of coffee every day. You can pry that stuff from my cold dead hands.

I think someone told me to lay off the caffeiene when I first quit, well, I didn't listen to that advice  B)

Seems like I read that nicotine slowed the uptake of caffeine so when we used nic the caffeine was less effective. So now the caffeine is possibly more stimulating. I still use the same amount.

Interesting. I wonder if that is true. I didn't start drinking coffee until 3 years ago. I do know that now, after having a coffee, I can get very hyped up with the caffeine. More so than I ever remember.

Maybe there is something to that theory.

I gave up caffeine initially because I had insomnia due to quitting. The last thing I wanted was another stimulant to make it even worse.

The reason that we suggest giving up caffeine initially is that the first 3-7 days (when the drug is leaving your body) is hell. You're all screwed up. Caffeine can and will fuck with a lot of quitters.

If you are want to stop using caffeine, then by all means quit the stuff. This shit is all about you man, just like your nicotine quit. If you want to stop, then don't blame anything or anyone but yourself in your quest.

Just fucking do it.

We're not here to condone your actions. We're here to help. We're a tool in your arsenal of quit.

Check this out about caffiene and nic: CafNic

I chew coffee grounds to help with my cravings, and switched to decaf. I didn't recognize the caffiene effects until I got in bed and my legs would twitch. It was a little weird.

[wastepanel]

I didn't slow down on caffeine at all when I first quit so I can't really say if it helped or not. I'm not much of a soda drinker, just 5-10 cups of coffee every day. You can pry that stuff from my cold dead hands.

I think someone told me to lay off the caffeiene when I first quit, well, I didn't listen to that advice  B)

Seems like I read that nicotine slowed the uptake of caffeine so when we used nic the caffeine was less effective. So now the caffeine is possibly more stimulating. I still use the same amount.

Interesting. I wonder if that is true. I didn't start drinking coffee until 3 years ago. I do know that now, after having a coffee, I can get very hyped up with the caffeine. More so than I ever remember.

Maybe there is something to that theory.

I gave up caffeine initially because I had insomnia due to quitting. The last thing I wanted was another stimulant to make it even worse.

The reason that we suggest giving up caffeine initially is that the first 3-7 days (when the drug is leaving your body) is hell. You're all screwed up. Caffeine can and will fuck with a lot of quitters.

If you are want to stop using caffeine, then by all means quit the stuff. This shit is all about you man, just like your nicotine quit. If you want to stop, then don't blame anything or anyone but yourself in your quest.

Just fucking do it.

We're not here to condone your actions. We're here to help. We're a tool in your arsenal of quit.