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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2008, 07:19:00 PM »
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buncha JC hatas

J316....simple answer

burn in hell forever or not.

January 2006 Icesholes...with Ken and Rayne and Gum?
Loot,

Was on a mother's day camping trip - lot's of good dipping places being in the woods of course...

But - no dip...

Ok, answer is if you reject the gift of salvation will you are on this earth (i.e., belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ) then I'm sorry to say you will spend eternity in hell and yes, the bible makes mention that it constantly burns with fire.

For those who do not believe in God, if I'm right and you are wrong - you have made the mistake of your eternal soul...
then why in John3:16 is the word "perish" used. Look it up. An if LOOT aint mistaken Revelations says you will be eventually be cast into the lake of fire and you will be no more.

contradictions....the bible is full of them

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2008, 03:14:00 PM »
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This has to be the lamest introduction thread ever and it belongs in a totally different part of the forums. John welcome back, whether its you quitting with or without your gods help you are still quitting, congratulations. Make it stick this time eh?
Thanks,

Yes - I'll make it stick...

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2008, 03:12:00 PM »
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buncha JC hatas

J316....simple answer

burn in hell forever or not.

January 2006 Icesholes...with Ken and Rayne and Gum?
Loot,

Was on a mother's day camping trip - lot's of good dipping places being in the woods of course...

But - no dip...

Ok, answer is if you reject the gift of salvation will you are on this earth (i.e., belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ) then I'm sorry to say you will spend eternity in hell and yes, the bible makes mention that it constantly burns with fire.

For those who do not believe in God, if I'm right and you are wrong - you have made the mistake of your eternal soul...

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 11:59:00 PM »
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buncha JC hatas

J316....simple answer

burn in hell forever or not.

January 2006 Icesholes...with Ken and Rayne and Gum?
looT - J316 was part of chewie's goup - Oct. 2006..Just like he wrote..Not an icehole...no gum, no rayne (you wish)...
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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2008, 09:56:00 PM »
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Make a Circle jerk thread......... Call it, "Religion needs Religion" in order to survive........ :angry:

Do you really want to create a thread that removes a certain "class" of people from attending?  Just curious........
this would count as one of your posts chief....quit being a dick and shut the fuck up already

don't come in here stirring shit just cause you see something related to religion

be glad there are lotsa miles seperating us...loot ran out of meds and is not sure a simple asskicking would be enough for his thirst for blood

and comon guys...the "JC/curveball" was classic....funny shit from loot
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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2008, 08:16:00 PM »
buncha JC hatas

J316....simple answer

burn in hell forever or not.

January 2006 Icesholes...with Ken and Rayne and Gum?

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2008, 02:10:00 PM »
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Quote from: John3:16
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This is John3:16's thread in introduction...he cantalk about whatever the fuck he wants to...it's up to you dumbasses to keep yer fucking mouths shut if you take issue with it...really...keep yer fucking fingers off you keyboards.

maybe J316 stays out of the Wildcard section...and thats not such a bad idea.

J316...if you'd like to answer...LOOt has some legitimate questions based on the verse you've chosen.
Go ahead loot...ask away...

Now, just to be fair and up front - my QS1 name was ForMyKids or FMK...

I went HOF with the units...about day 200+ I threw it all away...for no good reason on a fishing trip...thought I could have 1...I was buying a sleeve every week...

From that time I had a few false starts...

It's all because I thought I did not need this place...and I did not need a Higher Power to quit...I was wrong on both counts...

But I'm here to stay...and I've made God a promise (just for the record, God does not cut deals with people - there's only 1 deal on the table now) that if he'd help me get back to HOF I'd stay involved here and I'd offer up my testimony to help others...

Now - ask away...
Then we know each other...you were an Icehole no?

And I'll start simply...do you believe people burn in hell for eternity?
Icehole? Not sure what you mean there...but I remember you from QS1...

As for the question you ask...

"do people burn in hell for eternity"

Well, we all have free will...and everyone has the choice to worship or serve whatever God/etc. they want. Man was born destined for hell, as we are just not good enough to be in the presence of God...Adam changed our relationship with God.

In the early days, God demanded offerings to atone for sins and our imperfections. God is holy and righteous, atonement is mandatory - even God himself cannot excuse this. God's final plan was that a price would be paid for all past and present sin in 1 final act - of course that was when Christ took our place on the cross.

So - the question is whether you accept this gift or you reject it. If you reject it, then your sins have not been atoned and therefore judgment will land you separated from God...separation from God is hell...whether or not you burn there, that's it - you go there and it's for eternity...

See, this life we have and UST, and Cope, and all of this - it's just a job interview...a short warmup for the real deal. Earth is a mix of heaven and earth...it's what you decide now that will dictate which way you go...

I don't make the rules...they are God's rules...and he does not bend them for anyone...
Since this is an introductory thread, I won't comment here, but please, please, please, bring this augustian original sin crap to the religion thread!

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2008, 01:20:00 PM »
This has to be the lamest introduction thread ever and it belongs in a totally different part of the forums. John welcome back, whether its you quitting with or without your gods help you are still quitting, congratulations. Make it stick this time eh?
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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
Quote from: loot
Quote from: John3:16
Quote from: loot
This is John3:16's thread in introduction...he cantalk about whatever the fuck he wants to...it's up to you dumbasses to keep yer fucking mouths shut if you take issue with it...really...keep yer fucking fingers off you keyboards.

maybe J316 stays out of the Wildcard section...and thats not such a bad idea.

J316...if you'd like to answer...LOOt has some legitimate questions based on the verse you've chosen.
Go ahead loot...ask away...

Now, just to be fair and up front - my QS1 name was ForMyKids or FMK...

I went HOF with the units...about day 200+ I threw it all away...for no good reason on a fishing trip...thought I could have 1...I was buying a sleeve every week...

From that time I had a few false starts...

It's all because I thought I did not need this place...and I did not need a Higher Power to quit...I was wrong on both counts...

But I'm here to stay...and I've made God a promise (just for the record, God does not cut deals with people - there's only 1 deal on the table now) that if he'd help me get back to HOF I'd stay involved here and I'd offer up my testimony to help others...

Now - ask away...
Then we know each other...you were an Icehole no?

And I'll start simply...do you believe people burn in hell for eternity?
Icehole? Not sure what you mean there...but I remember you from QS1...

As for the question you ask...

"do people burn in hell for eternity"

Well, we all have free will...and everyone has the choice to worship or serve whatever God/etc. they want. Man was born destined for hell, as we are just not good enough to be in the presence of God...Adam changed our relationship with God.

In the early days, God demanded offerings to atone for sins and our imperfections. God is holy and righteous, atonement is mandatory - even God himself cannot excuse this. God's final plan was that a price would be paid for all past and present sin in 1 final act - of course that was when Christ took our place on the cross.

So - the question is whether you accept this gift or you reject it. If you reject it, then your sins have not been atoned and therefore judgment will land you separated from God...separation from God is hell...whether or not you burn there, that's it - you go there and it's for eternity...

See, this life we have and UST, and Cope, and all of this - it's just a job interview...a short warmup for the real deal. Earth is a mix of heaven and earth...it's what you decide now that will dictate which way you go...

I don't make the rules...they are God's rules...and he does not bend them for anyone...

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2008, 01:03:00 PM »
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Quote from: loot
This is John3:16's thread in introduction...he cantalk about whatever the fuck he wants to...it's up to you dumbasses to keep yer fucking mouths shut if you take issue with it...really...keep yer fucking fingers off you keyboards.

maybe J316 stays out of the Wildcard section...and thats not such a bad idea.

J316...if you'd like to answer...LOOt has some legitimate questions based on the verse you've chosen.
Go ahead loot...ask away...

Now, just to be fair and up front - my QS1 name was ForMyKids or FMK...

I went HOF with the units...about day 200+ I threw it all away...for no good reason on a fishing trip...thought I could have 1...I was buying a sleeve every week...

From that time I had a few false starts...

It's all because I thought I did not need this place...and I did not need a Higher Power to quit...I was wrong on both counts...

But I'm here to stay...and I've made God a promise (just for the record, God does not cut deals with people - there's only 1 deal on the table now) that if he'd help me get back to HOF I'd stay involved here and I'd offer up my testimony to help others...

Now - ask away...
Then we know each other...you were an Icehole no?

And I'll start simply...do you believe people burn in hell for eternity?

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 12:27:00 PM »
Quote from: loot
This is John3:16's thread in introduction...he cantalk about whatever the fuck he wants to...it's up to you dumbasses to keep yer fucking mouths shut if you take issue with it...really...keep yer fucking fingers off you keyboards.

maybe J316 stays out of the Wildcard section...and thats not such a bad idea.

J316...if you'd like to answer...LOOt has some legitimate questions based on the verse you've chosen.
Go ahead loot...ask away...

Now, just to be fair and up front - my QS1 name was ForMyKids or FMK...

I went HOF with the units...about day 200+ I threw it all away...for no good reason on a fishing trip...thought I could have 1...I was buying a sleeve every week...

From that time I had a few false starts...

It's all because I thought I did not need this place...and I did not need a Higher Power to quit...I was wrong on both counts...

But I'm here to stay...and I've made God a promise (just for the record, God does not cut deals with people - there's only 1 deal on the table now) that if he'd help me get back to HOF I'd stay involved here and I'd offer up my testimony to help others...

Now - ask away...

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 10:58:00 AM »
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Quote from: chiefman31
Quote from: John3:16
mns36:

This forum is for "Introductions" - nobody said who would had be introduced...

My intention was that any quit brother who either believed and/or called on a higher power OR wanted to talk about it - would come here...

The introduction is not for me...it's for a "Higher Power" that people can call on to help them quit...

If you don't believe in a "Higher Power"  or that there is any Higher Power of any kind - Christian, etc. - then just don't visit here...

Not trying to be disrespectul - I just never understood people who complained about something they were not forced to endure...
Hey,

Make a Circle jerk thread......... Call it, "Religion needs Religion" in order to survive........ :angry:

Do you really want to create a thread that removes a certain "class" of people from attending? Just curious........
John3:16

First of all, I am not complaining. There is a a place in the Wildcard section of this site to discuss the "higher power". So according to you I am not supposed to visit the introduction section where people "INTRODUCE" themselves? I respect your intentions but this is not the place. Sorry if you feel that I am wrong. I do find your comment saying that if I dont believe in a higher power, dont visit here rather disrespectful. I am a good person, probably a better person than alot of Christians. That is all I will say.
Hey,


I didn't mean don't visit the entire introductions site...there are hundreds of entries here...this is just one of many...

Some of the introductions are from people that have not even quit yet...just passing through...

They focus on a wide variety of topics and subjects...

I'm not trying to "exclude" anyone...

There are certain things I see on this site I don't approve of the content, tone, etc...but I don't say anything - I just choose not to either read it or go into those quit groups, etc...

Anyone is welcome here, and for those who don't care to discuss or read this concept - they can just bypass it...
I see your point. Just a misunderstanding that is all. No worries.

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 07:53:00 AM »
This is John3:16's thread in introduction...he cantalk about whatever the fuck he wants to...it's up to you dumbasses to keep yer fucking mouths shut if you take issue with it...really...keep yer fucking fingers off you keyboards.

maybe J316 stays out of the Wildcard section...and thats not such a bad idea.

J316...if you'd like to answer...LOOt has some legitimate questions based on the verse you've chosen.

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2008, 07:49:00 AM »
Quote from: chiefman31
Make a Circle jerk thread......... Call it, "Religion needs Religion" in order to survive........ :angry:

Do you really want to create a thread that removes a certain "class" of people from attending? Just curious........
this would count as one of your posts chief....quit being a dick and shut the fuck up already

don't come in here stirring shit just cause you see something related to religion

be glad there are lotsa miles seperating us...loot ran out of meds and is not sure a simple asskicking would be enough for his thirst for blood

and comon guys...the "JC/curveball" was classic....funny shit from loot

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Re: A Higher Power
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2008, 06:15:00 AM »
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Quote from: chiefman31
Quote from: John3:16
mns36:

This forum is for "Introductions" - nobody said who would had be introduced...

My intention was that any quit brother who either believed and/or called on a higher power OR wanted to talk about it - would come here...

The introduction is not for me...it's for a "Higher Power" that people can call on to help them quit...

If you don't believe in a "Higher Power"  or that there is any Higher Power of any kind - Christian, etc. - then just don't visit here...

Not trying to be disrespectul - I just never understood people who complained about something they were not forced to endure...
Hey,

Make a Circle jerk thread......... Call it, "Religion needs Religion" in order to survive........ :angry:

Do you really want to create a thread that removes a certain "class" of people from attending? Just curious........
John3:16

First of all, I am not complaining. There is a a place in the Wildcard section of this site to discuss the "higher power". So according to you I am not supposed to visit the introduction section where people "INTRODUCE" themselves? I respect your intentions but this is not the place. Sorry if you feel that I am wrong. I do find your comment saying that if I dont believe in a higher power, dont visit here rather disrespectful. I am a good person, probably a better person than alot of Christians. That is all I will say.
Hey,


I didn't mean don't visit the entire introductions site...there are hundreds of entries here...this is just one of many...

Some of the introductions are from people that have not even quit yet...just passing through...

They focus on a wide variety of topics and subjects...

I'm not trying to "exclude" anyone...

There are certain things I see on this site I don't approve of the content, tone, etc...but I don't say anything - I just choose not to either read it or go into those quit groups, etc...

Anyone is welcome here, and for those who don't care to discuss or read this concept - they can just bypass it...