Quit

[Montana Rob]

For the sake of building a solid plan:

What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?

"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.

Not sure if its called a plan, but I have fake shit stashed all over the place. Pick ups, office, house, next to the computer, on the kitchen table, etc. And the seeds on the office desk and coffe table. Got a couple of numbers programmed in the phone.

and

a little note in my wallet that I see when I open it up to buy anything that says "No Snuff"

What you do guys think? Anything else I should add or do?

[Smokeyg]

For the sake of building a solid plan:

What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?

"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.

[Gooch]

Dean, it's hard to explain but I'll do my best. I know one of my biggest downfalls has been not having a specific plan in place as to what I'm going to do when faced with the thought of caving.
I have read that most craves last no more than 3 minutes. When I caved 11 days ago I can honestly tell you I woke up at 6am and had a crave non-stop until rougly 9p that evening when I ultimately fucked up and caved. Prior to that I hadn't had a crave for weeks. I have no idea why on that given day I had such a severe crave that lasted as long as it did. I know what I'll do if it happens again however and that's where my new plan comes into play.
Bottom line is this, in the past I truly thought I could do this on my own. Not sure if it was an ego thing or what but that's what I thought. I have learned the hard way that I can't and am now willing to utilize the help when needed. I have two fellow quit brothers on the top of my list to call if and when needed. If I can't reach them I have two backups programmed in as well.
Gooch

[DeanTheCoot]

I have only two questions: Why did you cave at day 140? Why did you again cave at day 47?

[Gooch]

Just wanted to share some info with my fellow July quitters. Check out what Kodiak Killer posted in roll this morning, you may find it helpful.
It got me thinking about my own journey and failed attempts to quit. The brief rundown is, HOF last year and then caved around day 140 or so. Most recently caved at day 47 just last week.
During my first go round on this site I connected with nobody. Never chatted or got digits for times where I needed support - big mistake.
The second go round I got digits from a couple of guys but they weren't guys that I knew that well. What I found out is when my chips were down and I was struggling, I needed to be able to call someone I knew and felt comfortable talking to about my struggle. This may be different for you and if so go with what works for you. I'm just saying when faced with a crisis, odds are I'm not going to call someone I've never connected with.
Here's what I've done to correct that flaw in my failed previous quit attempts. I got in chat and connected with a handful of guys. You'll discover if you do this inevitably there will be a few guys that you have similar interests with and whatnot. You'll eventually develop a rapport with these guys.
These are the guys that I recommed exchanging phone numbers with and let them know directly that you have made them part of your quit plan.
I just did this earlier this week and am feeling a lot better about facing tough moments if and when they come, knowing I've got numbers programmed into my phone that I can call for support.
It may sound simple and maybe you guys are all a hell of a lot smarter than me and have already done this, if so good job - you're well on your way.
I want to wrap this up by letting you guys know as shitty as I feel about my previous failed attempts to quit, I feel good now and am willing to answer any questions about my fuck ups in hopes that it will help you guys from traveling down the same road.
Gooch

[Smokeyg]

Thank you all for the feedback today. From the ass chewing to the more nurturing approach, I took it all in. I've certainly given plenty of advice on this site so it's only fair that I listen to what you guys have to say.

I just puked in my mouth a little bit.

[nmc]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Yup. How to post roll is all I care about. It's amazing how much energy I put into it. What outernal said.

[bearattack]

So you made a conscience decision to dip????

Fukodiak!!! !!

[Gooch]

Thank you all for the feedback today. From the ass chewing to the more nurturing approach, I took it all in. I've certainly given plenty of advice on this site so it's only fair that I listen to what you guys have to say.

[PbKid]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.

Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.

Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:

JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch

Now you need to put that good advice into action. You know how this place works. There is absolutely no way in hell that you should ever get to the point of actually buying a tin.

That's where is comes down to a decision.....to quit or to give up.

Shit, Gooch. wtf. Before you said - "Eventually, when I'm thinking a little clearer I will indeed process through my thinking leading up to my cave." Now you say "Started processing what had happened..." and " I write this so you all know exactly what happened to me." But I don't have a clue what happened this time, either.

Figure out what happened. It's not just that you owe it to May and everyone else. You owe it to yourself to practice a little introspection and figure it out. Root cause analysis and corrective action. Figure it out so you can see it coming. Before you start believing the cry wolf thing. If that happens you'll never be free.

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. - Al Einstein.

[redtrain14]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.

Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.

Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:

JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch

Now you need to put that good advice into action. You know how this place works. There is absolutely no way in hell that you should ever get to the point of actually buying a tin.

That's where is comes down to a decision.....to quit or to give up.

[JpCrew]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.

Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.

Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:

JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch

Well, I would rather lose sleep or something than lose a quit brother.

Call someone next time or go to Chat.

[Gooch]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.

Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.

Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:

JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch

[JpCrew]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.

I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.

Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.

Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.

Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:

[outernal]

I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES

Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.