Just decided on the way home

[Maac]

jost2brown - No I don't do the fake snuff. Thanks for your words. I am really happy you get what I was saying.

Jmiah - Semantics, Yes that's it. I have to say learning the lingo here is harder than the quit. People may think I don't care about my quit. If I did not care about it I would not be here.

Magnum9 - Thanks for the talk. Seriously, talking to you on the phone really helped.

I will take the advice given to me from Magnum9.

Later,
M

[magnum9]

Keep it up Maac,

Like we discussed, take what you want from here and leave the rest. The important part is that:

1) You post roll every day promising to not use
2) You honor the promise


It looks like you have no issues dip raging on here, which is awesome because it can help your quit. If you choose to not to listen to some of this then just ignore it, but only if you stay quit.

No one can argue with someone that piles on the quit days.

[jmiah]

I feel something. I felt this way even before when I chewed. It's as if I am missing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. It is being intensified by not getting my habit. When I know what it is I will tell you all.  Until then I am still Quitsville...... So Nice.

SERIOUSLY...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING HABIT!

IT'S AN ADDICTION!

YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS JUNKIE.

AN ADDICT.

This is what I was talking about. I say "habit" why cause I mean habit. It is habitual. Not the nicotine addiction. I was talking about something other than the nicotine addiction. The habit of getting my time alone. I say something that does not agree with your training on how to beat the "addiction" of nicotine and you just can see past the word. I don't understand that. Look past the word to what I am saying.

It has nothing to do with the snuff, I was still missing something. I don't know what that is yet. It may have been covered up by snuff... My word is the habit of chewing and your word is addiction. Both are true. Snuff is both a habit and an addiction. I am talking about the habit.......... HABIT. Do you know that words mean things.

They are two different words......

Habit - an acquired behavior pattern regularly followed until it has become almost involuntary.

I have a habit of putting on my seat belt when I get in my car.

Addiction - is a persistent, compulsive dependence on a behavior or substance.

I don't Need to put it on. It may be the smart thing to do but If I don't put it on I don't go in to withdrawal.

I stopped by because I wanted to share what I was feeling at the time. I use a word that you don't like so you bust my ass.

FUCK YOU. FUCK OFF. KISS MY ASS.

I don't give two fucking shits what you fucking think. I have learned a lot here. But dick heads like you that have there heads up there asses so far that they can't read Piss me off.

I am learning about me. Me with out snuff and all you did was take any joy in that discovery and piss all over it.

FUCK YOU VERY MUCH,

Hey man, sounds like you have a lot of energy towards your quit. Don't worry so much about the semantics, just stay quit and keep exploring your quit and your addiction. If I can be of any help PM me.

jmiah

[J2b]

I feel something. I felt this way even before when I chewed. It's as if I am missing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. It is being intensified by not getting my habit. When I know what it is I will tell you all.  Until then I am still Quitsville...... So Nice.

SERIOUSLY...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING HABIT!

IT'S AN ADDICTION!

YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS JUNKIE.

AN ADDICT.

This is what I was talking about. I say "habit" why cause I mean habit. It is habitual. Not the nicotine addiction. I was talking about something other than the nicotine addiction. The habit of getting my time alone. I say something that does not agree with your training on how to beat the "addiction" of nicotine and you just can see past the word. I don't understand that. Look past the word to what I am saying.

It has nothing to do with the snuff, I was still missing something. I don't know what that is yet. It may have been covered up by snuff... My word is the habit of chewing and your word is addiction. Both are true. Snuff is both a habit and an addiction. I am talking about the habit.......... HABIT. Do you know that words mean things.

They are two different words......

Habit - an acquired behavior pattern regularly followed until it has become almost involuntary.

I have a habit of putting on my seat belt when I get in my car.

Addiction - is a persistent, compulsive dependence on a behavior or substance.

I don't Need to put it on. It may be the smart thing to do but If I don't put it on I don't go in to withdrawal.

I stopped by because I wanted to share what I was feeling at the time. I use a word that you don't like so you bust my ass.

FUCK YOU. FUCK OFF. KISS MY ASS.

I don't give two fucking shits what you fucking think. I have learned a lot here. But dick heads like you that have there heads up there asses so far that they can't read Piss me off.

I am learning about me. Me with out snuff and all you did was take any joy in that discovery and piss all over it.

FUCK YOU VERY MUCH,

Maac - I know what you are saying here. Do you have the fake stuff?

The addiction to nicotine is a bitch and the true enemy, but the habit of following up a meal, workout, drive, shower, shit, shave, sex, etc. with a lipper is tough to break as well.

Keep on posting here, good to see you on roll in May 11, and pm me if you need anything.

[Maac]

I feel something. I felt this way even before when I chewed. It's as if I am missing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. It is being intensified by not getting my habit. When I know what it is I will tell you all.  Until then I am still Quitsville...... So Nice.

SERIOUSLY...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING HABIT!

IT'S AN ADDICTION!

YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS JUNKIE.

AN ADDICT.

This is what I was talking about. I say "habit" why cause I mean habit. It is habitual. Not the nicotine addiction. I was talking about something other than the nicotine addiction. The habit of getting my time alone. I say something that does not agree with your training on how to beat the "addiction" of nicotine and you just can see past the word. I don't understand that. Look past the word to what I am saying.

It has nothing to do with the snuff, I was still missing something. I don't know what that is yet. It may have been covered up by snuff... My word is the habit of chewing and your word is addiction. Both are true. Snuff is both a habit and an addiction. I am talking about the habit.......... HABIT. Do you know that words mean things.

They are two different words......

Habit - an acquired behavior pattern regularly followed until it has become almost involuntary.

I have a habit of putting on my seat belt when I get in my car.

Addiction - is a persistent, compulsive dependence on a behavior or substance.

I don't Need to put it on. It may be the smart thing to do but If I don't put it on I don't go in to withdrawal.

I stopped by because I wanted to share what I was feeling at the time. I use a word that you don't like so you bust my ass.

FUCK YOU. FUCK OFF. KISS MY ASS.

I don't give two fucking shits what you fucking think. I have learned a lot here. But dick heads like you that have there heads up there asses so far that they can't read Piss me off.

I am learning about me. Me with out snuff and all you did was take any joy in that discovery and piss all over it.

FUCK YOU VERY MUCH,

[nicofiend]

Yeah Maac everyone is right! You need to read, read, and then read some more!! Proud to be quit with you bro! nico

[Parputt]

Just wondering if you ever read anything on this site or just post your random thoughts. This site is full of information and tools to help you deal with what you are going through.

I still don't think you get it. Hope you do someday.

[dchogs]

I feel something. I felt this way even before when I chewed. It's as if I am missing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. It is being intensified by not getting my habit. When I know what it is I will tell you all. Until then I am still Quitsville...... So Nice.

SERIOUSLY...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING HABIT!

IT'S AN ADDICTION!

YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS JUNKIE.

AN ADDICT.

[Maac]

I feel something. I felt this way even before when I chewed. It's as if I am missing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. It is being intensified by not getting my habit. When I know what it is I will tell you all. Until then I am still Quitsville...... So Nice.

[midwestusa]

I have found that if I don't use the correct wording or vernacular people get up set. Like I quit for my kids.... they come back and say you don't quit for anyone but you. Well I am not very good at that stuff so forgive me if I say something that does not toe the line in that respect.

This is the deal.... Snuff was a lot of things to me.  It was a way to relax. I loved to sit down after a nice meal and have a big fat chew and watch a move. Especially on Sundays after my work week.

I got off work this morning and after a good nights / days sleep I got up at about 5pm went out for a fantastic steak. Now I am home and what I'd normally do is watch a movie with that chew in.

I will watch the movie but I will do it with out my old friend. Today is the first day that this weekend relaxing time will happen with out a chew in 33 years.

I needed to sit here and write about it. I needed to tell someone that I am happy not to chew but I still miss it at the same time. I am still quit and I pray that next week this aspect of my quit will lessen.

I have always wondered how people did all these things, watch a movie or TV show with out a dip. I may know now why for me.... I did it because it took the place of people. I'd would have rather spent time with snuff than people.

I have more work to do in that respect but when I have put this day to bed I will have done more to help my self than I ever have before.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Later,
M

Maac I think you need to stop romanticizing your enemy. As comforting as that chew was at one point in your life, it was trying to kill you. Its filled with poison and can cause cancer with a single exposure. That's your enemy. You gotta fight that bitch. And I mean really hate it.

Sounds like progress. I know you were critical of some of our euphemisms but "one day at a time" is what works. That philosophy works. So embark on this journey knowing that you have made a great decision to help save your life and changes will come. They definitely will come. My suggestion is you write it down. Sounds like you need to get some shit out of your head. We've all gone through the suck. Share it and we'll give you honest feedback.

Fight again tomorrow.

I did that with my battle with my weight and sugar. It may seem strange but sugar in almost all its forms is poison to the human body. I made sugar a hated enemy that was out to make my life miserable and in the end kill me.

I will do that with snuff......... I will make it the enemy.

When I first quit, I couldn't sleep for about 40 hours. Came home from a useless day at work, passed out, woke up, craved a dip and sat in my house the rest of the day. Had my girl take my keys and leave for awhile

Right now it doesn't seem like life could ever be as good as when you were chewing. I remember looking at people doing all kinds of stuff and wonder why how they could get through it without a big lipper in.

I can tell you now that life without dip is better. You'll see as keep posting. This site works.

[Maac]

I have found that if I don't use the correct wording or vernacular people get up set. Like I quit for my kids.... they come back and say you don't quit for anyone but you. Well I am not very good at that stuff so forgive me if I say something that does not toe the line in that respect.

This is the deal.... Snuff was a lot of things to me.  It was a way to relax. I loved to sit down after a nice meal and have a big fat chew and watch a move. Especially on Sundays after my work week.

I got off work this morning and after a good nights / days sleep I got up at about 5pm went out for a fantastic steak. Now I am home and what I'd normally do is watch a movie with that chew in.

I will watch the movie but I will do it with out my old friend. Today is the first day that this weekend relaxing time will happen with out a chew in 33 years.

I needed to sit here and write about it. I needed to tell someone that I am happy not to chew but I still miss it at the same time. I am still quit and I pray that next week this aspect of my quit will lessen.

I have always wondered how people did all these things, watch a movie or TV show with out a dip. I may know now why for me.... I did it because it took the place of people. I'd would have rather spent time with snuff than people.

I have more work to do in that respect but when I have put this day to bed I will have done more to help my self than I ever have before.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Later,
M

Maac I think you need to stop romanticizing your enemy. As comforting as that chew was at one point in your life, it was trying to kill you. Its filled with poison and can cause cancer with a single exposure. That's your enemy. You gotta fight that bitch. And I mean really hate it.

Sounds like progress. I know you were critical of some of our euphemisms but "one day at a time" is what works. That philosophy works. So embark on this journey knowing that you have made a great decision to help save your life and changes will come. They definitely will come. My suggestion is you write it down. Sounds like you need to get some shit out of your head. We've all gone through the suck. Share it and we'll give you honest feedback.

Fight again tomorrow.

I did that with my battle with my weight and sugar. It may seem strange but sugar in almost all its forms is poison to the human body. I made sugar a hated enemy that was out to make my life miserable and in the end kill me.

I will do that with snuff......... I will make it the enemy.

[Maac]

I spent the night, so far the hardest night, sitting across from my self knowing that I will not dip. I won't let my self dip.

I am going to be repeating my self a lot here, I am trying to come up with my own mantra. The Ideas, thoughts or beliefs that make quitting real. That make quitting emotionally correct, logically correct.

This is what I have so far.

My reasons for quitting are just as valid now as they where on day one. Those reasons are: My mouth hurts so bad that I can't enjoy the chew. I don't want brown teeth (I have brown teeth). I never smile because I have a chew in all the time. My mouth tastes like ass. I use snuff as a replacement for intimacy / socialization. (I have preferred snuff over people for years). I don't want to die from mouth cancer. A Man, a real man should have control over his desires, wants. A real man does not have addictions. A real mans word is his bond (we live in a world so far removed from that underlying belief it makes me ill).


Now after saying all that I still lack confidence about it. So I might not be there for a life time but I am there for today!

[HugeCowboysFan]

MAAC - wow man. You know it's funny reading some of these posts - it's like I'm thinking "man these guys are just like me, thinking exactly like me"...

I can't tell you how many times I've had a dip watching a movie, fishing, hell even swimming. I used to scuba dive a lot and even tried to dip while diving. I've been wondering how can I possible enjoy going to the movie? How can I enjoy watching my Cowboys play on Sunday w/o a big ol pinch of snuff? I mean.....how can I enjoy life without the dip?

And then that little voice in my head says - HEY DUMBASS - and I imagine how stupid I am wanting that NASTY shit in my mouth to begin with. MAAC - or anyone that reads this - YOU DESERVE a HUGE pat on the back for quitting. I've made it 5 days.....I will MAKE it 500 more thanks to KTC....

[Souliman]

I have found that if I don't use the correct wording or vernacular people get up set. Like I quit for my kids.... they come back and say you don't quit for anyone but you. Well I am not very good at that stuff so forgive me if I say something that does not toe the line in that respect.

This is the deal.... Snuff was a lot of things to me. It was a way to relax. I loved to sit down after a nice meal and have a big fat chew and watch a move. Especially on Sundays after my work week.

I got off work this morning and after a good nights / days sleep I got up at about 5pm went out for a fantastic steak. Now I am home and what I'd normally do is watch a movie with that chew in.

I will watch the movie but I will do it with out my old friend. Today is the first day that this weekend relaxing time will happen with out a chew in 33 years.

I needed to sit here and write about it. I needed to tell someone that I am happy not to chew but I still miss it at the same time. I am still quit and I pray that next week this aspect of my quit will lessen.

I have always wondered how people did all these things, watch a movie or TV show with out a dip. I may know now why for me.... I did it because it took the place of people. I'd would have rather spent time with snuff than people.

I have more work to do in that respect but when I have put this day to bed I will have done more to help my self than I ever have before.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Later,
M

Maac I think you need to stop romanticizing your enemy. As comforting as that chew was at one point in your life, it was trying to kill you. Its filled with poison and can cause cancer with a single exposure. That's your enemy. You gotta fight that bitch. And I mean really hate it.

Sounds like progress. I know you were critical of some of our euphemisms but "one day at a time" is what works. That philosophy works. So embark on this journey knowing that you have made a great decision to help save your life and changes will come. They definitely will come. My suggestion is you write it down. Sounds like you need to get some shit out of your head. We've all gone through the suck. Share it and we'll give you honest feedback.

Fight again tomorrow.

[Maac]

I have found that if I don't use the correct wording or vernacular people get up set. Like I quit for my kids.... they come back and say you don't quit for anyone but you. Well I am not very good at that stuff so forgive me if I say something that does not toe the line in that respect.

This is the deal.... Snuff was a lot of things to me. It was a way to relax. I loved to sit down after a nice meal and have a big fat chew and watch a move. Especially on Sundays after my work week.

I got off work this morning and after a good nights / days sleep I got up at about 5pm went out for a fantastic steak. Now I am home and what I'd normally do is watch a movie with that chew in.

I will watch the movie but I will do it with out my old friend. Today is the first day that this weekend relaxing time will happen with out a chew in 33 years.

I needed to sit here and write about it. I needed to tell someone that I am happy not to chew but I still miss it at the same time. I am still quit and I pray that next week this aspect of my quit will lessen.

I have always wondered how people did all these things, watch a movie or TV show with out a dip. I may know now why for me.... I did it because it took the place of people. I'd would have rather spent time with snuff than people.

I have more work to do in that respect but when I have put this day to bed I will have done more to help my self than I ever have before.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Later,
M