Today is the Day

[Steakbomb18]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

It's proven that using does nothing for you but feed your addiction. Lots of quitters have hit your intro with some good advice. Start doing some research and learn everything you can about the poison. You'll find that a lot of your beliefs are lies. Learn your enemy it knows you.

Here's one that I found interesting. I've read that nicotine can negatively affect your memory. It's proven that people that smoke for years can not concentrate as well as someone who has not. Add that with not being able to remember things as well. The fact is brother, we are the ones that have screwed our shi@@. Nicotine has stolen stuff from us we will never get back. It takes until there is nothing left. If we didn't/don't quit it would continue until there is nothing left.

There is a great book to read. A lot of us have read it. Allen car's the easy way to quit smoking. Check it out. Once you know the truths you can start the real healing!!

Pay attention to my next line. One day at a time and you can have back a LOT of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.

The run of the mill response to these types of questions (and most appropriate response) is to talk with your doctor. Although a stimulant, I do think that nicotine pales in comparison to amphetamines, however because you dipped and probably dipped a lot, you may as well have had an IV drip of nicotine; and like you say, probably had some therapeutic benefits as a result. When used appropriately, amphetamines are the drugs of choice for ADD. There are a couple of non-amphetamine alternatives to discuss with your doctor, guanfacine and Strattera.

However, since you are somewhat opposed to the doctor avenue, you can look into some homeopathics known for "mental focus" such as Ginseng and ginko biloba.

[srans]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

It's proven that using does nothing for you but feed your addiction. Lots of quitters have hit your intro with some good advice. Start doing some research and learn everything you can about the poison. You'll find that a lot of your beliefs are lies. Learn your enemy it knows you.

Here's one that I found interesting. I've read that nicotine can negatively affect your memory. It's proven that people that smoke for years can not concentrate as well as someone who has not. Add that with not being able to remember things as well. The fact is brother, we are the ones that have screwed our shi@@. Nicotine has stolen stuff from us we will never get back. It takes until there is nothing left. If we didn't/don't quit it would continue until there is nothing left.

There is a great book to read. A lot of us have read it. Allen car's the easy way to quit smoking. Check it out. Once you know the truths you can start the real healing!!

Pay attention to my next line. One day at a time and you can have back a LOT of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.

[CavMan83]

Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.

DK.

Hang tough brother. You need something or just want to talk, you know how to get ahold of me. You've got my support and prayers to help you and the family get through this.

I'm also with you on the fog/focus thing....will be really glad when it does return to "normal" (whatever normal was....been so long I can't remember).

[Doc2quit4good]

Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.

Maybe they've been looking at your signature!!! Seriously being quit doesn't change a lot around you, it changes what's in your head and your physical self. Have things gotten worse since you quit?

[DaveKnight]

Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.

[Dagranger]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!

The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!

I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.

August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.

http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/

(and here's the thread from August: Fog discussion)

Dave if I can add to that thread, give yourself some time. After about 180 days, my focus came back on its own. Stay with it brutha! Like I told you list time I hit this thread....you're in a really shitty time to be quit. 20-50 days sucks.

[wastepanel]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!

The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!

I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.

August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.

http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/

(and here's the thread from August: Fog discussion)

[Done4Me]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!

The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!

I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.

August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!

The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!

I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.

[Doc2quit4good]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!

The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!

[DaveKnight]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.

[DaveKnight]

No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.

[DaveKnight]

Your signature infatuates my youngest son every time he sees it.

Quite the war being fought there.

The imogies help me stay quit.

[wastepanel]

Your signature infatuates my youngest son every time he sees it.

Quite the war being fought there.

[Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat]

So, last night my dream was about hitting the Hookah. It is funny how KTC is always an afterthought of these dreams. The dream starts with you blazing like Cheech and Chong; then suddenly you are like: Oh shit, I just broke the promise to all of the guys and gals at KTC.....WHATAMIGONNADO!?!?!?!?!

Tobacco has been a big part of my life. Both my parents smoked for the 18 years I lived with them. My first cig was at 6 yo, and I started using full time by the time I was 15. I started dipping when it became more advantageous for me to do so. Dip is more convenient when you can't take a smoke break. In Iraq I was smoking French cigs and Hookah seemingly every minute of every day. Then when I became Aircrew I never went without a dip in during working hours, unless I was in formation or talking to my CO. I would do 8+ hour flights with a lipper in the whole time.

This quit is probably the hardest thing I have ever done. I have prevailed for 38 days so far. Now I just have to make it one more.

You got this.

If you need to, lean on a brother. I got your back, as do many here.

If you need help, just reach out.

You can do this. If I can, you can.

What ^^^ he said! You've got my digits and I'm sure you have other digits in which to use. Use 'em that's what they are for and that's what we are all here for. If I have a crave and thinking about caving I'm going to text everyone on my contact sheet and ask for permission to cave. Doubtful that I'll get anyone to give me permission but everyone here makes up my zero barrier!